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Re: Satanic conspiracy

Postby justdrew » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:37 pm

Brighid_Moon wrote:Edit: JustDrew beat me to it! :wink:

it was a not a race, lol. thanks for chiming in!

hey, thanks for that metahistory link, looks very interesting.

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I'll probably have something to say about the "The Allies of Humanity" stuff later, I find it listenable so far...
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Postby Brighid_Moon » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:38 pm

Balto: You're correct. Most "books" (biblical or otherwise) were named not by author but by whom or what the "book" addressed. Oft' times the actual author is unknown, and the book has been rewritten and transcribed (with additions and subtractions) through several or many hands - or has been based on more ancient (but no longer available) texts.
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Postby jimbo21 » Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:59 pm

8bitagent wrote:I like how it starts with a "the elite have long said theyve been guided by a hidden hand"

And I know some people roll their eyes at Wilbur for some of his views;
but as ignorant and Christian fundie as it sounds...it seems like a non human hidden hand has in fact been guiding the elite agenda for thousands of years...from all corners and cultures. From the time of Sumer to right now in this post 9/11 world.

These "space brothers" and "greys/Nordics/ect" sound more like dark spiritual tricksters. Here to save us? Shit.

No, I'm not a Christian, but this whole alien/UFO thing doesnt wreak of government psyops...it reaks of a Satanic agenda. We can dance around it, and say it's all our "Jungian collective subconscious reverberating through our future-past selves" or "innocent ET's who want to better our planet" or "US government psyops" or "swampgas".

Edward Cayce knew it, Bailey Im sure began to realize it. Crowley probably thought it was funny. And The Nine flap certainly sealed it.

We're not talking about "extra terrestrials from planet Mars".

"Ascended Masters", "aliens"...I think it's clear what we're really talking about.

And no, I don't think "Christ" or Buddha or anyone is going to save us.
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I was never into the whole reptilian agenda...until I saw one and made a brief telepathic link - it knew I knew. And I don't go around looking for lizards.

I believe there are foot soldiers manifested on our plane, but the bulk of activity is just 'upstream' of ours, but still operates in our 3D. It is how they remain unseen to fleshy eyes. But they still emit waves and emenations into our 3D, just like objects that have manifested in our plane do. Sort of a remnant of 'God's pressure' that casts of as streams. I think this is why we can sometimes catch glimpses of things moving faster then they should be, strange objects, and other phenomenon. I also think that they need to manifest the machines and vehicles for certain operations and probes. That is also why UFOs seem to blink in and out - not related to speed but more to blinking in and out of our manifestation as they choose. There are vehicles parked all around, and with some degree of clairaudience they can be heard as they move about.

Yes, Crowley knew, I am fairly certain.

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Notice the 'ships' or 'birds' in the bottom right of the card. The hat that looks like a helicopter is actually a compass with the directions manifested in gold letters. In these cards, sometimes it is necessary to project the seat of consciousness into the main figure. In this case, if you become the knight, the ships are manifesting from the east. One hypothesis I have is that whereever you are, they will manifest from the east. And need not come from the sky, possibly right next to you - they will 'manifest' into our 3D.

In fact the way things have been going I am wondering if the A.A. was setup to create psychic warriors for what is coming, the Engines of War mentioned in the Book of the Law. I always wondered who we were supposed to be fighting with those engines.

I know this is all major woo-woo...but deperate times and all...peace.
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Postby Brighid_Moon » Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:17 pm

According to X-ian doctrine, Jesus is supposed to come from the East. Which I always found fascinating as that's also a Muslim belief, and the East has always been the realm of the Sun God in varying religions - which Constantine also intermixed (Mithraism) with X-ianity during the Council of Nicaea.

Desperate days is right. Woo-woo abounds, just have to make sure we have as close to the correct information as we can get. :wink:



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Postby Ben D » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:13 pm

Not OT forgive me, but Lord Balto would appear correct. Looking at the crop circle complex above, it is clear that the tractor tracks provide the access to the whole complex.

Until I see these circles in the middle of a field without an obvious physical access route, or circles adjacent to others circles without any obvious connection, one will assume they are man made.
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Re: Satanic conspiracy

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:12 am

justdrew wrote:
no those are false teachings put here by that 'hidden hand'

Yaldabaoth's Archons interface with the top human power elements. top humans are promised 'eternal life' and this is enabled by causing the old and dying human leadership to be immediately reincarnated into a specifically chosen host, which has been prepared and 'cleared' of it's original birth spirit by harsh methods. This is the big secret, and I don't think I've ever seen anyone else put it out there. If anyone has ever seen this theory openly discussed in any form I'd be glad to be informed where.


Wouldn't surprise me at all. But how is this different than what Marmot mentioned? Tomatoes, Tomahtos.

People in conspiracy world talk a lot about "government/CIA/Pentagon spook psyops", not realizing above that is spiritual spook psyops.

What you describe, as crushingly bizarre to some, sounds entirely plausible. This is why I absolutely believe events such as 9/11 are designed very specifically as a dark spiritual operation and reverberation.

When I take an open minded look at the wide bulk of abduction/contactee/close encounter stories; it seems to dovetail with this sinister agenda.

Brighid_Moon wrote:
Rather the Demiurge, Yaldabaoth.

Gnosticism, as pre-Christian schools of thought, though mixed with Christianity when certain texts were transcribed, are based on more ancient beliefs than Christianity and Judaism. Aliester Crowley and the OTO follow/ed many Gnostic beliefs. It's argued that Jesus of Nazareth was Sethian Gnostic. It's also claimed that there were two sects of Gnosticism - the Magians, who became political and controlling, and the Telestai, who preserve and watch.


An absolutely fascinating study, it's hard for me to even wrap my head around it all.
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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:27 am

jimbo21 wrote:

I was never into the whole reptilian agenda...until I saw one and made a brief telepathic link - it knew I knew. And I don't go around looking for lizards.

I believe there are foot soldiers manifested on our plane, but the bulk of activity is just 'upstream' of ours, but still operates in our 3D. It is how they remain unseen to fleshy eyes. But they still emit waves and emenations into our 3D, just like objects that have manifested in our plane do. Sort of a remnant of 'God's pressure' that casts of as streams. I think this is why we can sometimes catch glimpses of things moving faster then they should be, strange objects, and other phenomenon. I also think that they need to manifest the machines and vehicles for certain operations and probes. That is also why UFOs seem to blink in and out - not related to speed but more to blinking in and out of our manifestation as they choose. There are vehicles parked all around, and with some degree of clairaudience they can be heard as they move about.

Yes, Crowley knew, I am fairly certain.

Image
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Notice the 'ships' or 'birds' in the bottom right of the card. The hat that looks like a helicopter is actually a compass with the directions manifested in gold letters. In these cards, sometimes it is necessary to project the seat of consciousness into the main figure. In this case, if you become the knight, the ships are manifesting from the east. One hypothesis I have is that whereever you are, they will manifest from the east. And need not come from the sky, possibly right next to you - they will 'manifest' into our 3D.

In fact the way things have been going I am wondering if the A.A. was setup to create psychic warriors for what is coming, the Engines of War mentioned in the Book of the Law. I always wondered who we were supposed to be fighting with those engines.

I know this is all major woo-woo...but deperate times and all...peace.


No please, I think by now it's clear even the stranged of woo squared is
quite plausible. I myself know of things too bizarre to mention, that I
wish Hugh was right about it all being "government ops".

I think one of the reasons the millions of Fortean/Bigfoot/gnome/UFO/mothman/paranormal stories are each unique and bizarre, yet seemingly interconnected...is because imagination and creativity is more than we can comprehend.

A flying saucer landing in Africa circia 1994 with three greys in front of 62 school children to me is the least of the bizarre Ive read or known about.
Hollywood writers couldnt make this stuff up.

David Icke mentions frequencies, like an AM/FM radio. Vibrations. I believe the elite know how to manipulate these realms. Their 'twilight language' perhaps is more than a secret handshake or coded words...but colors, actions, and things that are hard to perceive.

Now some may say, if these are spiritual inter dimensional entities that can manifest anywhere, whats with the use of spacecraft and machines?
Others will dismiss it all as L Ron Hubbard fantasy.

Some even say their is no "Craft", but just holograms to change with the times(airships, flying saucers, giant triangles)

However, theres long been flying machine accounts. The ancient Vedas text in India shows illustrations of literal UFO saucers.

Crowley of course is far from this "evil" persona I feel too many people think of him as...a mad para-scientist perhaps. But he would have been helping the Nazis, instead of the British...if he were a bad guy.

I just can't get over the fact the main power occult numbers ended up being the planes used on 9/11. And the buildings involved in 9/11 being of high esoteric significance. It's hard to wrap your head around that.
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Re: Satanic conspiracy

Postby justdrew » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:30 am

8bitagent wrote:What you describe, as crushingly bizarre to some, sounds entirely plausible.


the terrible plausibility also lies in that even if it didn't really truly _work_ it could be demonstrated as having worked to the 'leadership' by trickery, easily, yet it could be made to seem absolutely to have worked to those persons aspiring to this/offered this. I wont spell out the methods for accomplishing this as a 'trick' (it's fairly obvious), but it would seem to me... to provide exceptionally strong motivation for ABSOLUTE loyalty.

as to whether or not it would really work, that is - result in fully conscious recall of all past life knowledge, 'same-person/new-body' - I don't know, I'd probably bet it might work 50% of the time. maybe?
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Postby justdrew » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:36 am

8bitagent wrote:I just can't get over the fact the main power occult numbers ended up being the planes used on 9/11. And the buildings involved in 9/11 being of high esoteric significance. It's hard to wrap your head around that.


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Re: Satanic conspiracy

Postby Brighid_Moon » Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:49 am

8bitagent wrote:An absolutely fascinating study, it's hard for me to even wrap my head around it all.


Try this. (Just beware of the New Age Fluff intermixed, and keep a skeptical mind due to his affiliations - otherwise fascinating study of metaphysics and quantum physics.)

The Divine Matrix
by Gregg Braden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjM9JhzlXR0

Synopsis
In 1944, Max Planck, the father of quantum theory, shocked the world by saying that this "matrix" is where the birth of stars, the DNA of life, and everything between originates. Recent discoveries reveal dramatic evidence that Planck's matrix - "The Divine Matrix" - is real. It is this missing link in our understanding that provides the container for the universe, the bridge between our imagination and our reality, and the mirror in our world for what we create in our beliefs. To unleash the power of this matrix in our lives, we must understand how it works and speak the language that it recognizes. For more than 20 years, Gregg Braden, a former senior aerospace computer systems designer, has searched for the understanding to do just that. In this paradigm-shattering book, Gregg shares what he's found. Through 20 keys of conscious creation, we're shown how to translate the miracles of our imagination into what is real in our lives. With easy-to-understand science and real-life stories, Gregg shows us that we're limited only by our beliefs, and what we once believed is about to change!
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Re: Satanic conspiracy

Postby 8bitagent » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:04 am

justdrew wrote:
8bitagent wrote:I just can't get over the fact the main power occult numbers ended up being the planes used on 9/11. And the buildings involved in 9/11 being of high esoteric significance. It's hard to wrap your head around that.


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Also, quite phallic...it's said the highest form of sorcery involves sex.

Pentagon=77 feet. Twin Towers=110 stories.

justdrew wrote:
8bitagent wrote:What you describe, as crushingly bizarre to some, sounds entirely plausible.


the terrible plausibility also lies in that even if it didn't really truly _work_ it could be demonstrated as having worked to the 'leadership' by trickery, easily, yet it could be made to seem absolutely to have worked to those persons aspiring to this/offered this. I wont spell out the methods for accomplishing this as a 'trick' (it's fairly obvious), but it would seem to me... to provide exceptionally strong motivation for ABSOLUTE loyalty.

as to whether or not it would really work, that is - result in fully conscious recall of all past life knowledge, 'same-person/new-body' - I don't know, I'd probably bet it might work 50% of the time. maybe?


Well I used to write off reincarnation, lifetime continuation, ect. But I've learned, that nothing seems too strange or impossible in some respects.

I know this will sound cliche, but I wonder if it's the visible leaders who are part of this 'black brotherhood'. I know, it sounds Alex Jones/Icke like...but something has always struck me as 'off' about George HW Bush. Though perhaps these folks you talk of truly are behind the scenes.

Somehow I fear the kidnapped children phenomenon might be tied to this. Islamic terrorism and kidnapped children seems like a favored dish to the black brotherhood elite.


Brighid_Moon wrote:
8bitagent wrote:An absolutely fascinating study, it's hard for me to even wrap my head around it all.


Try this. (Just beware of the New Age Fluff intermixed, and keep a skeptical mind due to his affiliations - otherwise fascinating study of metaphysics and quantum physics.)

The Divine Matrix
by Gregg Braden

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjM9JhzlXR0

Synopsis
In 1944, Max Planck, the father of quantum theory, shocked the world by saying that this "matrix" is where the birth of stars, the DNA of life, and everything between originates. Recent discoveries reveal dramatic evidence that Planck's matrix - "The Divine Matrix" - is real. It is this missing link in our understanding that provides the container for the universe, the bridge between our imagination and our reality, and the mirror in our world for what we create in our beliefs. To unleash the power of this matrix in our lives, we must understand how it works and speak the language that it recognizes. For more than 20 years, Gregg Braden, a former senior aerospace computer systems designer, has searched for the understanding to do just that. In this paradigm-shattering book, Gregg shares what he's found. Through 20 keys of conscious creation, we're shown how to translate the miracles of our imagination into what is real in our lives. With easy-to-understand science and real-life stories, Gregg shows us that we're limited only by our beliefs, and what we once believed is about to change!


*paradigm cracking*

I'll have to look into this more. Thanks Brigid!

Also what's with high level leading scientist type people in government and the occult? :)
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What?

Postby marmot » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:07 am

Brighid_Moon wrote:According to X-ian doctrine, Jesus is supposed to come from the East. Which I always found fascinating as that's also a Muslim belief, and the East has always been the realm of the Sun God in varying religions - which Constantine also intermixed (Mithraism) with X-ianity during the Council of Nicaea.

Desperate days is right. Woo-woo abounds, just have to make sure we have as close to the correct information as we can get. :wink:

(And no, before anyone says it, I'm not "X"ing out Christianity, even Christian scholars use that term as a shortening of the word.)

According to Xn doctrine, Jesus is supposed to come from the East? Where do you get this? Sorry, it is not a Christian doctrine. It's pure isogesis, and sounds like something a pseudo-christian cult would teach.

And, yes, the Messiah (who Xns believe to be Jesus) is spoken of as the 'Sun of Righteousness' in an eschatological Day-of-the-LORD passage in the OT book of Malachi.

Yes, not only is 'X' (the greek letter chi) legitimate shorthand for Christ, it was also a first century Xn symbols for the Lord too.
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Postby monster » Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:08 am

8bitagent wrote:
monster wrote:In my dream I picked up a newspaper and saw a story with pictures of him. He was in Kenya, looking very emaciated and poor. Just skin and bones. The rest of the pictures chronicled the transformation of this man into something else. There were pictures of his chest opened up, surgically, with steel attached to his rib cage, spine, and the rest of his skeleton. Layers of padding or fat added on top of the steel to fill him out, make him un-emaciated. The final photo showed him as he looks now, smiling. It was really weird.


Geezus that's freaking disturbing.

It really was - even though I often have vivid dreams and I remember them easily, there's a lingering feeling with some dreams that set them apart. This was one of them. It was like Obama had been engineered to be invincible, some kind of superman. I can still visualize the whole dream, especially the graphic image of his chest cut open and seeing his ribs and spine reinforced with steel.

My most memorable dream was in 2001, when an angelic being led me up the outside of a pyramid. We circled upwards and he showed me symbols written on the outside. The symbols represented the history of the world. We went higher, and I saw that the pyramid was unfinished - there was no top. Then I realized that the pyramid top represented the culmination of history, and was about to be completed. Like, soon.

The surreal feeling of that dream stuck with me for the entire day after I woke up. The sense of significance was immense. I've never connected it with 9/11, but it did happen soon before that.
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My recurring dream

Postby norton ash » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:13 am

The vision I have had is of a waterfall pointed out by deities... long-haired Christ, Vishnu, Buddha, Mary figures pulling aside a curtain... or leading me out to the opening of a trail... to reveal a golden waterfall singing with ethereal music. I've had it since childhood, and it was renewed with LSD/Grateful Dead experience, sweat lodge, and meditation.

There is a benign unstoppable force of love and consciousness. And this old world is a racket. We need to take ourselves outside and talk like lovers or children or dogs do... we don't need this shit, we belong to something better.
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Postby 8bitagent » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:15 am

monster wrote:
8bitagent wrote:
monster wrote:In my dream I picked up a newspaper and saw a story with pictures of him. He was in Kenya, looking very emaciated and poor. Just skin and bones. The rest of the pictures chronicled the transformation of this man into something else. There were pictures of his chest opened up, surgically, with steel attached to his rib cage, spine, and the rest of his skeleton. Layers of padding or fat added on top of the steel to fill him out, make him un-emaciated. The final photo showed him as he looks now, smiling. It was really weird.


Geezus that's freaking disturbing.

It really was - even though I often have vivid dreams and I remember them easily, there's a lingering feeling with some dreams that set them apart. This was one of them. It was like Obama had been engineered to be invincible, some kind of superman. I can still visualize the whole dream, especially the graphic image of his chest cut open and seeing his ribs and spine reinforced with steel.

My most memorable dream was in 2001, when an angelic being led me up the outside of a pyramid. We circled upwards and he showed me symbols written on the outside. The symbols represented the history of the world. We went higher, and I saw that the pyramid was unfinished - there was no top. Then I realized that the pyramid top represented the culmination of history, and was about to be completed. Like, soon.

The surreal feeling of that dream stuck with me for the entire day after I woke up. The sense of significance was immense. I've never connected it with 9/11, but it did happen soon before that.


It sounds connected to 9/11 to me. There is google earth, imagine if there was google history? Where you could literally glimpse video and snapshots of what actually happened in the past? No translations, no interpretations...is as it was. I bet so much of history would be so different than what we're told.

The pyramid you speak of...from pre Sumer to Summer 2001 Im assuming....the unfinished capstone has always been symbolic.
While I don't believe in an actual end time scenario, I believe in
end-aeon scenarios. On Mohamed Atta's will, there was a handwritten esoteric symbol that means passing through, a snake, and the word "Room". I feel on 9/11 spiritually and conscious wise we passed through a portal, if at least symbolically.

I do fear something wicked and bizarre is rising to the surface, even if we can't see it...the culmination of all this hate...the Audacity of Hate.

I want to explain why your Obama dream disturbs me greatly.
My dreams, when they are bizarre, have always been really freaking bizarre like that. I've studied dream interpretation(hence why Im a huge fan of David Lynch films)

You mentioned Africa, and transformation. It's long been my thought that
the biggest little secret is that something profound and impossible to comprehend is in Africa. And transformation...it feels like that's what we're about to see. It breaks my heart, hearing my dream...as it sounds so real. In black market organ stealing, like what China's government does, they'll literally carve a living person up for all their organs.

But then this notion of a superman....

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I feel conflicted, sad...what if Obama isn't this evil nwo puppet everyone on here claims. What if he means what he says, and its the media and elite who have created a cult of personality. What if he is like the nerd in school lured to the prom by a hot girl, only to get blood dumped on him...like Carrie?

I keep thinking the next RI blog image made by Jess will be Obama looking up with his eyes closed, and a UFO mothership above him...and masses below...or Obama in a motorcade.

Wilbur Whitley on here is right, Obama is a special person...but what will be his purpose? His transformation?

Thank you for sharing your dream, it's hard to shake.
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