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Postby 8bitagent » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:10 am

geogeo wrote:the really big attacks have some numerological angle, generally. 11s proliferate, and other 'master numbers': 22, 77. I would be quite surprised to see something major that was not on one of the following dates:

9-22
10-11
10-22

(we already saw 8-8-8, that 'lucky' Chinese one...)

but on the other hand they've not been sticking so close to the 11s these days (as they were from 9-11 thru the following 4 or 5 years).

Overall I doubt anyone would attack DC in a terribly crippling way--I think a Tonkin w/ Iran is much more probable. And the Zionists WOULD have a hand in that, /I would guess.


Absolutely.

What was JFK? 11/22. I mean, does it get any more obvious?
9/11, what with the heavy emphasis on 11, 77, 93, ect

You look at many of the main "al Qaeda" attacks world wide since 9/11, all falling on dates that have "11" or "7" in them. Even one that literally was 7-11(in India no less, those NWO jokesters)

The 8 8 8 thing was the Olympic beginning, tho I believe the Russian Georgian thing was 8-7?

This new terror attack in Pakistan is 9/20, and Bali was 10/12...so not all of them fit that pattern

But make no mistake, the next "big event" in America will have some sort of occult ritualistic significance either in the target, who is the target, the date or method.
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Re: October Surprise

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:13 am

nomo wrote:
ninakat wrote:Premonitions? Guesses? Rumors? Anything? Nothing?


What was the October surprise in 2004? Or 2000?

Oh, that's right. There weren't any. I don't think they need them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_su ... e_vs._Bush


Are you kidding? The most classic of them ALL was days before the election in late october 2004, when Osama bin Goldstein appeared on tv telling people to vote for Kerry:) (classic reverse psychology)
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Postby ShrikeHammer » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:54 am

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Postby ninakat » Mon Sep 22, 2008 3:28 pm

ShrikeHammer wrote:Check this out....http://www.nysun.com/foreign/spies-warn ... ise/86326/


Thanks. Just saw that linked from RawStory too. Here's the clickable link:

Spies Warn That Al Qaeda Aims for October Surprise
http://www.nysun.com/foreign/spies-warn ... ise/86326/
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Re: October Surprise

Postby Penguin » Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:46 pm

8bitagent wrote:
nomo wrote:
ninakat wrote:Premonitions? Guesses? Rumors? Anything? Nothing?


What was the October surprise in 2004? Or 2000?

Oh, that's right. There weren't any. I don't think they need them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_su ... e_vs._Bush


Are you kidding? The most classic of them ALL was days before the election in late october 2004, when Osama bin Goldstein appeared on tv telling people to vote for Kerry:) (classic reverse psychology)


Yea, that was CLASSIC material. I remember talking with a friend before, we were like "Suure, I BET Ossamma is gonna show up before the election!" And sure enough he did - out of focus and fat as ever.
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Postby justdrew » Mon Sep 22, 2008 4:55 pm

this year, the October Surprise is going to be... If we make it through October at all! :lol:
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Postby 8bitagent » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:35 pm

ShrikeHammer wrote:Check this out....http://www.nysun.com/foreign/spies-warn ... ise/86326/


LOL!

Don't they know that the word "October Surprise" is conspiracy theorist deep state jargon? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_su ... acy_theory

Yeah, "al Qaeda" could pull off an Oct Surprise...emphasis on the " ".

It's like when the CFR warned al Qaeda could stage an attack to make it look like Iran did it:

http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070501f ... -back.html
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Re: October Surprise

Postby 8bitagent » Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:36 pm

Penguin wrote:
8bitagent wrote:
nomo wrote:
ninakat wrote:Premonitions? Guesses? Rumors? Anything? Nothing?


What was the October surprise in 2004? Or 2000?

Oh, that's right. There weren't any. I don't think they need them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_su ... e_vs._Bush


Are you kidding? The most classic of them ALL was days before the election in late october 2004, when Osama bin Goldstein appeared on tv telling people to vote for Kerry:) (classic reverse psychology)


Yea, that was CLASSIC material. I remember talking with a friend before, we were like "Suure, I BET Ossamma is gonna show up before the election!" And sure enough he did - out of focus and fat as ever.


It was so good, they released it 3 years later as a "new bin Laden", with darker beard. Same video though, new voice:

The new and improved USAma.

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Postby nathan28 » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:35 pm

Jesus Christ. Osama is deader than dogshit. He has failed kidneys. They "haven't found him" because he's de-fucking-composed. That so many Americans seem to think he's still alive--that's a goddamn "conspiracy theory" if there ever was.

Sorry, had to get that out.

There will be no "October Surprise." And we will not invade Iran. We've been hearing about the "October Surprise" on teh internets every year for at least he past seven, and Sey Hersh's reputation is in a few months needlessly ruined.

Don't forget 10/13 though.

And with this bloodless coup going on, do you think we need an October Surprise?
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Postby Penguin » Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:42 pm

What? Osama dead?
Then who is that bloke on the videos ... :shock:

:twisted:

Maybe they just have him in "cold storage".
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Postby 8bitagent » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:31 pm

nathan28 wrote:Jesus Christ. Osama is deader than dogshit. He has failed kidneys. They "haven't found him" because he's de-fucking-composed. That so many Americans seem to think he's still alive--that's a goddamn "conspiracy theory" if there ever was.

Sorry, had to get that out.

There will be no "October Surprise." And we will not invade Iran. We've been hearing about the "October Surprise" on teh internets every year for at least he past seven, and Sey Hersh's reputation is in a few months needlessly ruined.

Don't forget 10/13 though.

And with this bloodless coup going on, do you think we need an October Surprise?


Ive often wondered if the two and a half year old "The US and Israel will attack Iran at any moment!" is in itself just a psyop.

And remember things happen when you least expect...as well, things rarely happen when you expect them

The elite is clever like that.

Also, why do so many people get mad when you question if Osama even exists? It's as if, you yank the official 9/11 or Osama boogeyman card; and their whole mental paradigm shatters.

"bbb...bbbbut...Osama really does exist! He's our biggest threat...Obama said so!"
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Postby geogeo » Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:53 pm

I'm not sure, but I think it was 8-8-8 in one of those time zones...

Did you see that scary Zionist protest in New York today? Death to Ahmadenijad, Death to Iran? Not marginal folks, either: scary rhetoric coming from Sharansky and Weisel. They are very serious about this. Who know, when Baltimore gets nuked, I bet there will be some Israeli art students in the area, may be a white van or two. Watching, you know, waiting.

Seriously, though, with some of those dates (don't forget the Tunisian synagogue bomb (4-11-2002) you have the idea they got postponed a day or two.

I don't see 13 as that important. The synarchic plots implicated in the rise of United Europe via Mitterrand and others are based in the number 11 and the date 11-11, because of the central importance of the cult of Saint Martin, the patron of France and of soldiers, resuscitated in late 1800s in France and tied closely to the conservative militarism that led to France's leadership role on "our" side in the Great War and to Vichy in WWII. France is, after all, the very heart of Europe and is the main enabling mechanism behind the rise of the European super-state which is poised to sweep us aside or absorb us or whatever.

11 is also the key number for Martinism itself, which helped give birth to synarchy in its known 20th-century manifestations. But it's talked about very little even by Louis-Claude himself. Somewhere along the way (late 1800s, my guess) 11 became popularized as the most powerful of the master numbers in pop numerology. IT is WAY more powerful than 13 for folks who believe that stuff. And to judge from 19th-century Martinezism and related groups in France, it is all about channelling God himself (or Jesus, whatever) and getting instructions from him. Nothing that other warrior cultures throughout history haven't done. 11, in this sense, would also represent the 11 disciples (12th being Judas).

11s also usher in the Carnival in the Rhineland and signify what Carnival means -- Farewell to the Flesh (to meat, among other things) and the great orgy before Lent. I suspect that the 11s of the last few years have marked our own great orgy of consumption and destruction (permit me license--with a little Katrina thrown in for irony) that we get before the end closes in.
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Postby 8bitagent » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:20 pm

geogeo wrote:I'm not sure, but I think it was 8-8-8 in one of those time zones...

Did you see that scary Zionist protest in New York today? Death to Ahmadenijad, Death to Iran? Not marginal folks, either: scary rhetoric coming from Sharansky and Weisel. They are very serious about this. Who know, when Baltimore gets nuked, I bet there will be some Israeli art students in the area, may be a white van or two. Watching, you know, waiting.

Seriously, though, with some of those dates (don't forget the Tunisian synagogue bomb (4-11-2002) you have the idea they got postponed a day or two.

I don't see 13 as that important. The synarchic plots implicated in the rise of United Europe via Mitterrand and others are based in the number 11 and the date 11-11, because of the central importance of the cult of Saint Martin, the patron of France and of soldiers, resuscitated in late 1800s in France and tied closely to the conservative militarism that led to France's leadership role on "our" side in the Great War and to Vichy in WWII. France is, after all, the very heart of Europe and is the main enabling mechanism behind the rise of the European super-state which is poised to sweep us aside or absorb us or whatever.

11 is also the key number for Martinism itself, which helped give birth to synarchy in its known 20th-century manifestations. But it's talked about very little even by Louis-Claude himself. Somewhere along the way (late 1800s, my guess) 11 became popularized as the most powerful of the master numbers in pop numerology. IT is WAY more powerful than 13 for folks who believe that stuff. And to judge from 19th-century Martinezism and related groups in France, it is all about channelling God himself (or Jesus, whatever) and getting instructions from him. Nothing that other warrior cultures throughout history haven't done. 11, in this sense, would also represent the 11 disciples (12th being Judas).

11s also usher in the Carnival in the Rhineland and signify what Carnival means -- Farewell to the Flesh (to meat, among other things) and the great orgy before Lent. I suspect that the 11s of the last few years have marked our own great orgy of consumption and destruction (permit me license--with a little Katrina thrown in for irony) that we get before the end closes in.


Yeah "13" as well as "23" and "666" is just pop culture disinfo.
Though I have to say, I see the use of "13" in conjunction with "31" sometimes. Like when Princess Diana's car crashed into the 13th pilar
minutes after midnight on the 31st of August right as the tunnel cameras shut off, directly under and to the right of a large black pentagram with eternal flame bronze statue...an obvious paranormal occult operation way above anything "MI5/6" could pull off.

When we look at where JFK was shot, as well as it being 11/22....

I had forgotten about the Tunisian "al Qaeda" attack...but look at this

9/11/2001 (11 years to the day after bush sr's nwo speech)
3/11/2004 (911 days after 9/11, the 2004 Madrid Spain attacks)
7/11/2006 (Mumbai india, killed over 200)
4/11/2002(Tunisia)
7/7/2005 (london bombing)
10/7/2004 (tourist hotels in the Sinai in Egypt )
4/11/2007 (Algeirian capital attack )
11/9/2005 ( attack in jordan, mirrors the date "9/11")
7/23/2005 (2005 bombings in Egypt)
12/11/2007(Algeria)

All "11" or "7" and in the case of Mumbai; both.

Now these are all all the main "al Qaeda" attacks since 9/11.
With the exception of one: Bali.
That was Octomber 12th. They missed it by one day. Or...did they?
10/12=one year, one month, one day after 9/11.

Your lines of inquiry regarding 11 is most fascinating, as too many people..."12" seems to be the all too classic numeric figure.

Oh yeah, going back to another discussion...

"175" is indeed a number Crowley talked about, just not in Book of the Law. "175" is ascribed as a powerful number, the power of Venus.
Venus, AKA Lucifer in the classical sense.

So there you go: 11, 77, 93 and 175.
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Postby geogeo » Mon Sep 22, 2008 9:56 pm

"paranormal occult operation way above anything "MI5/6" could pull off. "

What?

Synarchy works by infiltration--it's the decentralized network within the spider's web that Peter Dale Scott talks about. Synarchy was originally conceived, when it was written about openly, as something that would work through any existing system to achieve the ultimate goal, which was as above, so below: humanity reconformed as microcosm, meaning humanity as a mega-machined body -- we are all cells who don't know what's going on but are essential to the operation of the body. Only the network making up the nervous system know what's going on and why. Synarchists are the gray matter of humanity. Who knows--maybe this is how other intelligent specie send up...or maybe they are other intelligent species? But this was central to alchemy and hermetic masonry, and this is the 18th-century milieu that gave birth to much of what we see.

Synarchs are mimics--you only see what they want you to see, I guess. I would have to think that there is some sort of psychical bond, because, hell, there is one in so-called 'primitive' 'mind-reading societies like the Australian Aborigines and certain Amazonian groups. Any society of magi powerful enough to have opened the third eye and to communicate this way would be unstoppable.

And, anyway, this is only a version of what priests throughout history have claimed to be able to do. Except I believe that these magi may have understood what I read Crowley to have grasped: God is us, but as collective unconscious or as what results from the psychic connection of the species, or something like that. We are God--this is what the Gnostics and others realized when they went in search of a God outside their own minds.

Like I've said before, we may be like dogs trying to figure out their owners. Or the ant in Antz who starts asking why. Heck, what if the cells in your body tried to figure you out?
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Postby Penguin » Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:02 pm

geogeo wrote:
Synarchs are mimics--you only see what they want you to see, I guess. I would have to think that there is some sort of psychical bond, because, hell, there is one in so-called 'primitive' 'mind-reading societies like the Australian Aborigines and certain Amazonian groups. Any society of magi powerful enough to have opened the third eye and to communicate this way would be unstoppable.

And, anyway, this is only a version of what priests throughout history have claimed to be able to do. Except I believe that these magi may have understood what I read Crowley to have grasped: God is us, but as collective unconscious or as what results from the psychic connection of the species, or something like that. We are God--this is what the Gnostics and others realized when they went in search of a God outside their own minds.

Like I've said before, we may be like dogs trying to figure out their owners. Or the ant in Antz who starts asking why. Heck, what if the cells in your body tried to figure you out?


Owners maybe, but hell if I dont try to figure it out. And Im not forcing my cells to do my bidding, as far as I know. They can revolt at any time they like, if they dont like the rule ;) Many of em are freewheelin bacteria anyway...

And I know theyre not the only ones with third eyes and psychic abilities. I know I do too. And I know plenty people who know they do too. In real life.
I feel that there is a compassionate selforganizing principle as well.

But what do I know...
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