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chlamor wrote:Obama's Special Representative for Afghanistan and Pakistan as indicator species
20 Hawks, Clintonites and Neocons to Watch for in Obama's White House
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Richard Holbrooke
Like Albright, Holbrooke will have major sway over U.S. policy, whether or not he gets an official job. A career diplomat since the Vietnam War, Holbrooke's most recent government post was as President Clinton's ambassador to the U.N. Among the many violent policies he helped implement and enforce was the U.S.-backed Indonesian genocide in East Timor. Holbrooke was an Assistant Secretary of State in the late 1970s at the height of the slaughter and was the point man on East Timor for the Carter Administration.
According to Brad Simpson, director of the Indonesia and East Timor Documentation Project at the National Security Archive at George Washington University, "It was Holbrooke and Zbigniew Brzezinski [another top Obama advisor], both now leading lights in the Democratic Party, who played point in trying to frustrate the efforts of congressional human-rights activists to try and condition or stop U.S. military assistance to Indonesia, and in fact accelerated the flow of weapons to Indonesia at the height of the genocide."
Holbrooke, too, was a major player in the dismantling of Yugoslavia and praised the bombing of Serb Television, which killed 16 media workers, as a significant victory. (The man who ordered that bombing, now-retired Army Gen. Wesley Clark, is another Obama foreign policy insider who could end up in his cabinet. While Clark is known for being relatively progressive on social issues, as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, he ordered bombings and attacks that Amnesty International labeled war crimes.)
Like many in Obama's foreign policy circle, Holbrooke also supported the Iraq war. In early 2003, shortly after then-Secretary of State Colin Powell's speech to the UN, where he presented the administration's fraud-laden case for war to the UN (a speech Powell has since called a "blot" on his reputation), Holbrooke said: "It was a masterful job of diplomacy by Colin Powell and his colleagues, and it does not require a second vote to go to war. … Saddam is the most dangerous government leader in the world today, he poses a threat to the region, he could pose a larger threat if he got weapons of mass destruction deployed, and we have a legitimate right to take action."
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http://la.indymedia.org/news/2008/11/222404.php
professorpan wrote:Conventional wisdom (for whatever that's worth) is that it can't just be shut down without first figuring out how the prisoners are going to be tried and other not-so-unimportant details. Makes sense to me that it needs to be carefully and correctly.
But he (Obama) did make a promise to shut down Gitmo, and this is a first step to ending the extrajudicial military trials.
But of course, Obama is evil and a liar so this must be some kind of ruse.
MacCruiskeen wrote:Barak "Aitch" Obama has just acknowledged the quaintly old-fashioned Geneva Convention AND stated the ballsachingly obvious without making a single grammatical error or even an unwisely unambiguous statement about release-dates. Therefore, like all sane human beings, I want to want to have his baby.
The prospects are golden, for everyone except cynics.
professorpan wrote:Oh, dear, when will the sheeple open their eyes to the Barack psyop? His evil reign continues:
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/us/po ... f=politics
Obama to Shut Guantánamo Site and C.I.A. Prisons
Published: January 21, 2009
WASHINGTON — President Obama is expected to sign executive orders Thursday directing the Central Intelligence Agency to shut what remains of its network of secret prisons and ordering the closing of the Guantánamo detention camp within a year, government officials said.
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A blatant PR stunt that will in no way make anything better, yes, chlamor? Ninakat? Hugh?
We need to stop this man before he accomplishes the further unraveling of our country by closing CIA prisons and making torture illegal again. The horror!
will also prohibit the C.I.A. from using coercive interrogation methods, requiring the agency to follow the same rules used by the military in interrogating terrorism suspects, government officials said.
Nordic wrote:Didn't it occur to anyone that these missile strikes were done without Obama's permission? This is the realm of the CIA, unmanned aerial drones killing people remotely. The CIA does what it wants, and hell, they're probably figuring they're gonna pull some shit and see what Obama does about it.
He's been President less than a week, do you think the CIA is going to wait for his permission before doing what they feel like, and what they've been doing forever?
Hell no.
Obama has almost no control over this. It will be interesting to see what happens if he DOES try to wrest control of it.
He's no idiot, he knows what happened to JFK as much as any other thinking and informed person.
My point: Why the knee-jerk blaming of this on Obama?
professorpan wrote:Conversely, what would Obama need to do for you to say "That was fucked up; Obama is worse than I'd hoped"?
I'm sure he will do plenty of things that will piss me off. And I will be outspoken when that occurs, just as I've been outspoken about any politician, regardless of party. But unlike the Obama-can-do-no-good RI brigade, I have now seen evidence that he will do some, possibly many, very good things.
He could cure fucking cancer and some of the nitwits here would twist themselves into pretzels trying to come up with why that's actually a bad thing.
It would be amusing if it wasn't so sad.
The arrival of the Obama administration will not fundamentally alter the course of military expansion accelerated during the Bush era. The origins of these policies do not lie uniquely in neoconservative ideology. While the election of President Obama may offer new opportunities for progressive forces to delimit the damage, their space for movement will ultimately be constrained by deep-seated structural pressures that will attempt to exploit Obama to rehabilitate American imperial hegemony, rather than transform it.
Indeed, the radicalization of Anglo-American political ideology represented by the rise of neoconservative principles and the militarization processes of the 'War on Terror', constituted a strategic response to global systemic crises supported by the American business classes. The same classes, recognizing the extent to which the Bush era has discredited this response, have rallied around Obama. Therefore, as global crises intensify, this militarization response is likely to undergo further radicalization, rather than a meaningful change in course. The key differences will be in language and method, not substance.
RocketMan wrote:From the revamped blog of the estimable Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed:
http://nafeez.blogspot.com/2009/01/obam ... ation.htmlThe arrival of the Obama administration will not fundamentally alter the course of military expansion accelerated during the Bush era. The origins of these policies do not lie uniquely in neoconservative ideology. While the election of President Obama may offer new opportunities for progressive forces to delimit the damage, their space for movement will ultimately be constrained by deep-seated structural pressures that will attempt to exploit Obama to rehabilitate American imperial hegemony, rather than transform it.
Indeed, the radicalization of Anglo-American political ideology represented by the rise of neoconservative principles and the militarization processes of the 'War on Terror', constituted a strategic response to global systemic crises supported by the American business classes. The same classes, recognizing the extent to which the Bush era has discredited this response, have rallied around Obama. Therefore, as global crises intensify, this militarization response is likely to undergo further radicalization, rather than a meaningful change in course. The key differences will be in language and method, not substance.
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