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DoYouEverWonder wrote:Nordic wrote:Didn't it occur to anyone that these missile strikes were done without Obama's permission? This is the realm of the CIA, unmanned aerial drones killing people remotely. The CIA does what it wants, and hell, they're probably figuring they're gonna pull some shit and see what Obama does about it.
He's been President less than a week, do you think the CIA is going to wait for his permission before doing what they feel like, and what they've been doing forever?
Hell no.
Obama has almost no control over this. It will be interesting to see what happens if he DOES try to wrest control of it.
He's no idiot, he knows what happened to JFK as much as any other thinking and informed person.
My point: Why the knee-jerk blaming of this on Obama?
President orders air strikes on villages in tribal area
24 January 2009
Barack Obama gave the go-ahead for his first military action yesterday, missile strikes against suspected militants in Pakistan which killed at least 18 people.
Four days after assuming the presidency, he was consulted by US commanders before they launched the two attacks. Although Obama has abandoned many of the "war on terror" policies of George Bush while he was president, he is not retreating from the hunt for Osama bin Laden and other al-Qaida leaders
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/ja ... air-strike
RocketMan wrote:Me, I'm just at the stage of learning what we're up against. I weaned myself off the plentiful teat of mainstream discourse relatively late in life (I'm 30 and been reeling since I was 28 or so), so I'm just trying to make sense of it all. Mr. Ahmed to me seems to be one of the most even-handed, calm analysts of the current predicament there are.
chlamor, I found some of those parts above from various posters at this link in the comments section -- 14. being a key one. They're all great points, but since they aren't all original with you, a link seems appropriate. Thanks.
professorpan wrote:I'm sure he will do plenty of things that will piss me off. And I will be outspoken when that occurs, just as I've been outspoken about any politician, regardless of party. But unlike the Obama-can-do-no-good RI brigade, I have now seen evidence that he will do some, possibly many, very good things.
Now if certain thread participants would be so kind and answer the very simple question you asked in another thread (to paraphrase), "What's your plan"...in their own words.
RocketMan wrote:I don't much care for the self-righteous tone.
RocketMan wrote:I don't need to have a "plan" to cast a critical eye on the Obama administration just as one does not need a plan to post uncritical praise of Obama and deride those who aren't drinking the same brand of Kool-Aid.
RocketMan wrote:Like I previously said, I'm personally at the stage of learning about a new way to look at the world, one where there aren't any individual saviors and where U.S. foreign policy is much more of a continuity than dependent upon different administrations.
I think it's as unreasonable and unhelpful to demand a political action plan as it is to demand a thorough explication of what happenened on 9/11 if someone is not fully satisfied with the official account.
Cosmic Cowbell wrote:Thanks for keeping us up to date on the evil doings of the evil doer Professor.....
Not bad for the first week. Now if certain thread participants would be so kind and answer the very simple question you asked in another thread (to paraphrase), "What's your plan"...in their own words.chlamor, I found some of those parts above from various posters at this link in the comments section -- 14. being a key one. They're all great points, but since they aren't all original with you, a link seems appropriate. Thanks.
Not the first time BTW...
~C
vigilant wrote:Always enjoy reading your posts whether I agree with em or not...
But this un here gave me the giggles. It struck my funny bone hard. Thanks for this one, it made my day...
You do realize don't you, that you just posted an artistic rendition of the Pyramid and All Seeing Eye, in the same post with a pro Obama message? This little logo you posted signifies a pyramid due to the shape of the hands, the hole in the middle is the eye, and the rays shooting outward, etc...its got it all bud.
So you might want to be a little more careful next time you decide to illustrate your point with graphics.
(i'm still laughing my ass off on this un, and i'm wondering if you're not jerking our chain. was this really a pro Obama post?)
vigilant wrote:Alternative 1: Demand that these folks spend the rest of their life in gitmo, take their piggy banks so we can gitmo of our stuff back, and spend the money unbrainwashing our country.
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