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Postby monkeytribe23 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:32 pm

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Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:10 pm

Kade wrote:I have read many of the posts of "Dream's End" there (harder to search because he was banned) and he was, indeed, a bit trollish at times. But does that explain the open embrace of the Queen of Trolls herself?

when she first makes appearance under her own name...if by scathing indictment we mean" welcomed with a wink and a smile."

Obviously this was missed by many or the debate would be raging whether the current implosion of the board is a case of "controlled demolition"...perhaps even an "inside job".

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Postby Foote Hertz » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:33 pm

nathan28 and monkeytribe23 - i agree with both of you - but like Col. Quisp, i wonder (not that it's any of my business) "who set this whole social experiment up!," or how and why the retarded inside Evenet jokes started and propagated - i believe they appeared in RI blog comments, referencing Duncan prior to her death on July 10 2007

for instance, this excerpt from an EVE comment from June 17 2007:
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Did you know that much wisdom can be found in anagrams? Shango showed me these riddles:

"A Lonely Wit - Aloha," or "A Holy Toenail Law"

Shrubbery, last night I dreamt of model airplanes...so here's a song for you my brother with the rapist wit. I'm gonna work out to it.

Love,
your **turn up the AC** sister with the 'reapist' wit ;-)
-end quote-

(comment to http://rigint.blogspot.com/2007/06/born ... t-one.html)

perhaps that excerpt contains a non-reference to be attributed to chance, in which case this is all, as Cosmic Cowbell illustrates, cluelessness - i hope you're right CC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_Duncan#Death doesn't jibe with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol_toxicity - maybe she asphyxiated on vomit, but i haven't seen that reported as the cause - all reports i've read simply say Tylenol PM/Bourbon OD - of course TD's could've been an exceptionally quick death by that combination

i can appreciate that this topic is obnoxious to some on this board - if the mods want to ban further discussion, they should, and be done with it
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Postby chiggerbit » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:41 pm

Can you find when Eve first started leaving comments on the blog, Foote Hurtz?
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Postby Foote Hertz » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:01 pm

search results may not be complete, but dig in

"et in arcadia ego eve" site:rigint.blogspot.com

this is the first as far as i can tell
FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2007
The Shock of Awe (Part Two)

EVE's two comments are dated 2/26/07 - search for them

coincidentally, Duncan's blog post of 2/24/07, Fuck Yeah!, consists of the collage that accompanies the RI post

could that Duncan post have been EVE's introduction to RI?
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clues

Postby hava1 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:07 pm

Such clues are common MO in organized crime or intel mindfucks. For instance, just before my elder sister suicided herself, her daughter was somehow on the cast of the movie "step mom" (she is not a professional actor, but a very young student, and was kind of lured into this lucrative gig as half a joke). Soon thereafter, she did have a step mom, coz my bro-in-law was already seeing his future wife, but none of us knew that (a secret affair).

Now, in that case, my family was up to its head into intel, and so the creeps are known (roughly), but from the way it happened, and all the mindfucks prior to going on a killing spree, (and attempts on my life included), i saw this is a finger print. They either do it as sadism, or its part of the pre-killing ritual, because the killing is based on the target helping its own death occur, either straightforward suicide, or they become "prone" to be suicided (namely, to mete out a psychological and spiritual blow on the victims' environment, make it weaker). Also, there is the fun of the "after shock" when everyone notices those clues, in "double take" and becomes creeped out.

either way, since then i've noticed those "pre warnings" as an MO. In fact it could be onn the manual on "how to" guard against that. If you are aware that this is psych war and not a "prophecy" or predetermination or "curse-spell", u can use it against the perps. When i was forced back to israel, my younter sister was the perp. She called, before hand, and sort of determined "so, where are u going to be in the summer ? you are going to be home. ha ha ha". This was like a precursor to a large mindfuck to make one feel at the mercy of those "larger forces", but if i knew what i know now, i would laugh (even if scared) ha ha ha back and say with the same force " i will be here, and you ?"

So, if the victim lady read this comment and was supposed to feel creeped out, it worked. as if someone is second reading her etc., or after the death it could be creepy, yet insufficient to prompt police investigation (that WILL make you look dumb), the response shold be on the same level. a counter reading of the words. Its a war of Will power.
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Re: clues

Postby nathan28 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:35 pm

hava1 wrote:Such clues are common MO in organized crime or intel mindfucks... Its a war of Will power.


But where is the physical intrusion element? That's why I question this. It looks like an undending set of anagrams by someone with a lot of energy and enough time to devote to them.

Which is also why I find it kind of amatuerish. How long does it take to crack an anagram? A few minutes? You can plug it into an anagram generator. Compare that vs. someone on wikileaks having to run a brute force attack for days to crack a document. Similarly amatuerish are all macro-like references that are decodable but still vague. EveNet (SkyNet's fatter, slower great-grand-aunt) is just kind of hackneyed.

And it it's a war of wills, here's my clever cultural reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz7_3n7xyDg

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Postby monkeytribe23 » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:10 pm



that is my lasting impression, but we don't have a timeline to establish if she had enough time to go through this slow and painful death. What time did she post her "magic story" comment? What time did JB find her? If there is less than 3 hours between these events then i would suspect foul play.

It looks like an undending set of anagrams by someone with a lot of energy and enough time to devote to them.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwbeddZ9aKI

And with that, on this subject, i fold.
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Postby Foote Hertz » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:47 pm

what do anagrams have to do with it?

what i find interesting is EVE first arrives in RI comments a couple of days after Duncan posts a tip of the hat to RI, then EVE's riffing on the word wit (synonymous with Duncan if you followed her blog) a few weeks prior to Duncan's death - i know, totally without substance - but it's like a bad song you can't get out of your head

monkeytribe23 wrote:that is my lasting impression, but we don't have a timeline to establish if she had enough time to go through this slow and painful death.


from the Vanity Fair article

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The next afternoon, July 10, back in New York, Blake came home to have lunch with Duncan at about three p.m., as he often did. But no one seems to know which restaurant they went to, or what happened there. What did they talk about? No one in 12 years had ever seen them have an argument. How did they say good-bye to each other?
Or were they just sitting, eating, chatting, giving no clues at all as to what was about to happen? Just a few days before, on July 5, Duncan had posted on her blog this quote from Franz Kafka: “When you stand in front of me and look at me, what do you know of the griefs that are in me and what do I know of yours?”
Around seven p.m., Blake came home from work. Walking through the church garden he saw Morales and invited him up. Morales said he would join them in a few minutes.
Then, about 10 minutes later, Morales said, he noticed there were a number of police cars outside the rectory entrance on East 11th Street. He hurried up to the apartment, where Blake was in the living room, “sobbing, pounding the walls with his fist, screaming, ‘Dammit, fuck, no, this can’t be happening.’ ”
The police were with Duncan’s body in the bedroom. Blake never went back inside. He had found her on the bed. Her face seemed almost smiling. Somehow, one of her hands had traveled up toward her cheek and was frozen there, as if she had just thought of something else she wanted to say.
-end quote-

roughly three hours
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Postby FreeLancer » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:28 pm

She died from something, but if the Vanity Fair time line is correct, it wasn't paracetamol poisoning. Hepatic necrosis in 3-5 hours? Never happen. The symptoms don't even present for 24 hrs.

The question is could she have died from Diphenhydramine HCl (Benadryl) O.D. with alcohol? Possible-- but how likely is it given what we "know" about the state in which she was found? Seems unlikely. While it's true that Diphenhydramine HCl is used in Tylenol PM as a sleep agent, it is by no means a "sleeping pill" or barbiturate/tranquilizer as is commonly understood.

It's an antihistamine and an anticholinergic. OD-ing on Diphenhydramine causes acute anxiety, tachycardia, hallucinations, agitation, confusion, disorientation, pupil dilation etc. People who OD on anticholinergics are often found wandering the streets or talking to fire hydrants. It's possible it induced a heart attack, but it seems unlikely that it would have happened before she became disorientated. She was found-- allegedly-- lying peacefully on her bed (just like the movies). Dubious to say the least.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Mar 09, 2009 7:49 pm

BF Kade is a pointless cunt by the look of him/her/it.

Can't even get its own shit right and appears to be attacking this board.
But it can't even be original when it does that.

I'd say it needs to be shot and pissed on, but thats a waste of fertiliser.
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Postby Sarah Bellum » Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:22 pm

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Postby justdrew » Mon Mar 09, 2009 9:18 pm

Sarah Bellum wrote:Image


what do you think is going on?

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note that some sources claim she was found on the floor, while others say in bed.
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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Mar 09, 2009 10:52 pm

Sarah some of us are just so jack of idiots whose heads have grownb so big they can't actually pull them out of their arse.
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Postby barracuda » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:06 pm

I am appreciating your contributions here more each day, Joe. Really, thanks. You've become one of my favorite reads on the board, and not just for this shit, but for your thoughful and interesting take on a wide range of topics. I wasn't gonna say all that in response to your last two posts, but this seems like as good a place as any, and better than some.
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