Some *real* search engine manipulation/hijacking

[professorpan]

Interesting article about search engine manipulation and a key 9/11 person of interest:

http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=dczjjvbr_76dnrw6v2k

[chiggerbit]

Such a unique name.


http://tinyurl.com/dytefz

[Wombaticus Rex]

I do this for a living, one reason I've always been more open to Hugh's claims: I know how much effort goes into ORM and building funnel sites, and it's not a stretch to assume people who do what I do (way better, faster and cleaner) work for gov.

[Avalon]

That's fascinating. Thanks.

I checked out a couple of the links, the Dear Leader-style fawning was awesome. Does being named Mayo inspire oleaginous prose?

Mayo A. Shattuck is more than the Chairman/CEO of Constellation Energy, a great golfer and the visionary behind the Constellation Energy Classic (9/11 – 9/17). First and foremost, Mr. Shattuck is a great leader—from the courts of Williams College, where he captained the varsity tennis team, to his current position, Mr. Shattuck also finds the time to serve in a variety of leadership capacities.

[marmot]

interesting article, thanks professor.

'we are certainly moving into a period of massive control' -SonicGG early today on RigChat 2.0

yes, massive manipulation and control!

[pepsified thinker]

I second the thanks and appreciation for this article. It's particularly useful to me because, though I have no problem accepting that such manipulation is likely, in a Missouri-'show me' manner, I need to see HOW such manipulation takes place, to fully buy into the world-view that assumes such manipulation.

This does that; gives the 'HOW'.

One question--how do you spot the phoney/fake secondary and tertiary sites? Do they just have one (original) post? Are they maintained/updated?

I'm being lazy and not looking through the links to them myself, but also thought discussing that aspect would be good content to include in this thread.

[Wombaticus Rex]

One question--how do you spot the phoney/fake secondary and tertiary sites? Do they just have one (original) post? Are they maintained/updated?

I'm being lazy and not looking through the links to them myself, but also thought discussing that aspect would be good content to include in this thread.

With 0% exaggeration, these fake funnel pages are about 20% of the accessable internet right now. They will only get more sophisticated and harder to spot in the future.

[bubblefunk]

That IS an interesting article - who wrote it?

[§ê¢rꆧ]

Very interesting. This explains why I usually have to start on page 7 of a Google Search result to find what I am looking for.

I'm starting to get into SEO, as it seems a natural complement to making sites for people, but fabricating all these fake sites feels like pissing on the Internet. I guess I have to get over my reluctance to watersports if I am ever going to be successful at SEO, heh.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Pan has been screaming obscenities at me for three years denying my assertion that this manipulation using decoys is s.o.p. for national security strategies.

What changed all of a sudden? Was I right all along, Pan?

A German paper cites the most famous movie keyword hijacking this month.
Seems the premier of 'Casablanca' and the allied invasion of Casablanca...happened on the same day, November 26, 1942.
Mon dieu! Q'uelle coincidence!!

PLAY IT AGAIN, SAM. Because...no man is an...Ilsa.


http://www.atlantic-times.com/archive_d ... ordID=1693

As Time Goes by A visit to Casablanca, a city tied to the fate of Nazi Germany – By Jochen Thies

Six decades ago, Ingrid Bergman and Humphrey Bogart immortalized Casablanca in the film that bears the city’s name. Since then, the place has languished.

>snip<

...followed six weeks later by the Casablanca Conference with FDR and Churchill.
Zut alors! But how?! Was it...ALIENS??

[mentalgongfu2]

Hugh said:

What changed all of a sudden? Was I right all along, Pan?


A German paper cites the most famous movie keyword hijacking this month.
Seems the premier of 'Casablanca' and the allied invasion of Casablanca...happened on the same day, November 26, 1942.
Mon dieu! Q'uelle coincidence!!

...followed six weeks later by the Casablanca Conference with FDR and Churchill.

Hugh, if you can't immediately see the difference between the OP article and your Casablanca example, perhaps you should take some time to consider what those differences may be.

Zut alors! But how?! Was it...ALIENS??

Ta gaulle.

[whipstitch]

I put this into google...

Mayo Shattuck 911

and the very first link was...

Democratic Underground - Deutsche Bank / Mayo Shattuck III's early ...
How to make a buck off 9/11 + Marsh pre-9/11 inside trading, DrDebug, Jun-24-06 07:15 AM, #57. Deutsche Bank / Mayo Shattuck III's early retirement / CIA /
http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... g_id=96532

Putting only Mayo Shattuck into google yeilded this for the seventh link...

Mayo Shattuck
The New York Times reported that Mayo Shattuck III had resigned on September 12, ... Mayo Shattuck III was president and Chief Operating Officer of Alex. ...
http://www.itszone.co.uk/Mayo-Shattuck.htm

Head of the bank resigned under suspicious circumstances
September 15, 2001. The New York Times reported that Mayo Shattuck III had resigned on September 12, 'effective immediately', from a 3-year $30 million contract as head of the Alex (A.B) Brown unit of Deutsche Bank. [New York Times 9/15/01]

[elfismiles]

Thanks Pan!

[Trifecta]

Big Brand Media Wants A Google Bailout

Mar 23, 2009 at 3:38am ET by Matt McGee

It seems like almost everyone in Big Business is looking for a bailout these days. That’s certainly true of several big brand media companies who, according to an AdAge article today, have told Google they deserve higher rankings in Google’s search results. Not only that, but one executive has also labeled the rest of the content-producing web — including bloggers like us — as “parasites” who “benefit disproportionately” from Google’s ranking algorithm.

This collection of media companies, AdAge reports, includes The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, Time Inc, Hearst, ESPN, and others — all of whom belong to Google’s Publishers Advisory Council.

(Did you even know Google had such a council? The article describes it as “a small, invitation-only group for professional publishers to pow-wow confidentially with the search giant.” Cue small publisher anger in 3…2…1.)

The big media companies’ complaints include:

* Google’s search algorithm in general, which they say “penalizes paid content”
* PageRank specifically, because it places too much of an emphasis on links
* The appearance of Google’s search results, which hurts big brands because every result looks the same

AdAge says the publishers are pushing their Automated Content Access Protocol (ACAP), a machine-readable language for indicating copyright permissions that online crawlers can understand, as a means to gain leverage on Google. But Google’s Josh Cohen recently dismissed ACAP:

“Acap only addresses the small minority of content owners and [it has] major technical issues. We can’t accept it in its current form. There are a number of challenges with Acap.”

The irony in all this, of course, is that Google’s so-called Vince update earlier this year supposedly promoted big brands that have more trust and authority than their smaller counterparts — something that should clearly benefit the complaining members of the Publishers Advisory Council.

Steve Rubel has already done a fine job of refuting the argument that big media is any more deserving of high search engine visibility than blogs just by virtue of their size. And at least one publisher quoted in the AdAge article recognizes that the media companies themselves are at least partly to blame for any lack of visibility in Google’s search results:

“They don’t owe us that we show up a particular way. They do publish a whole lot about how to make your site show up as much as possible. If people haven’t taken action on it, that’s their own damn fault.”

Indeed. It was just two weeks ago that I wrote that the Fortune 500 is “largely invisible” in natural search. Perhaps the big media companies should be asking an SEO consultant for bailout help, not Google.

There’s more discussion on Techmeme.
http://searchengineland.com/big-brand-m ... lout-17030

[Penguin]

Very interesting. This explains why I usually have to start on page 7 of a Google Search result to find what I am looking for.

I'm starting to get into SEO, as it seems a natural complement to making sites for people, but fabricating all these fake sites feels like pissing on the Internet. I guess I have to get over my reluctance to watersports if I am ever going to be successful at SEO, heh.

It IS pissing on the interwebs. And my feet.