911 Witness - "Harley Shirt Guy" - an actor?

[jasperilla]

Maybe this has been posted before but I just came across this via the Konformist Newswire and I was wondering what all you riggies thought about it?

http://911-harley-shirt-guy.blogspot.com/

[StarmanSkye]

Since I first heard about/saw this guys highly suspicious, too-glib videotaped 'explanation' about the tower's collapse caused by the fires which were 'too intense', I have to wonder whether his part was intended from the outset to frame the story of collapse as caused by the plane's collision and resulting flames, nothing else;

Sure is too convenient for the official CT;

[monster]

From the images at the link, Harley guy looks similar to the actor, but not identical.

[sunny]

It looks like the guy, but I guess actors have been known to live in New York? And actors have been known to gravitate toward cameras? Not saying it isn't hinky, but it could be perfectly innocent.

[MacCruiskeen]

Well, I couldn't swear it's the same guy -- has he been asked? -- but it definitely looks and sounds acted. You realise how artificial TV-acting is when you suddenly see it taking place in a real-life context such as the morning of 9/11. The weirdly elaborate sentence structure (it sounds scripted), the lack of hesitation, the professional enthusiasm, the absence of any real affect ... He's an actor all right. New York is full of 'em.

But is it credible that an actor was actually employed to make that statement at that time? Employed by whom? For how much money? Did he suffer no stage-fright whatsoever after watching a genuine mass-murder? And would he still be around in 2009, making cheap crap TV movies in which he could easily be identified?

It strikes me as much more likely that he was just a selfish superficial opportunistic asshole, there by accident, and happy to get his face in front of a camera at any price.

But still, it's very weird - one of the many weird details about that day. And what the hell do I know.

[lightningBugout]

I take this as some sort of tear in the space time continuum where this guy slipped through from a parallel universe in which all the most absurd 9/11 CTs are true, drones, a city full of plants, reptiians, shapeshifters, etc.

Because I know its almost inconceivable this guy really is a plant.

But my emotional reaction to him, every single damn time is - this man is a paid actor who is very carefully placed to say that line to start the process of pummeling that into people's heads.

[Fresno_Layshaft]

As Sunny says, not too weird for an actor to be in New York, but what an odd thing to say. It makes no sense- but there it is.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

There were multiple disaster readiness excercises going on in NYCity on 9/11.

Disaster management includes planted trained mouthpieces to manage public perceptions using media like the guy in the carefully chosen Harley Davidson motorcycle wear meant to indicate to the viewing audience that he has some mechanical knowledge and is a 'rugged individualist' and thus credible as a 'witness' to some mechanical event.

The process is called parasocial interaction, something much studied and deployed in choosing news anchors so the masses will believe their propaganda scripts.


See also 'like to have a beer with.'

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[AlicetheKurious]

...it definitely looks and sounds acted. You realise how artificial TV-acting is when you suddenly see it taking place in a real-life context...

Absolutely. I've turned on the teevee and watched what seemed to be a "real-life" interview and known immediately that it was not, just by the tone and facial expression of the actor, no matter how professionally done. Invariably, it turns out to be a "reenactment" using professional actors.

The "Harley guy" sequence is exactly like that. If so, what was the purpose of planting an actor?

"And then I witnessed both towers collapse, one first and then the second. Mostly due to structural failure because the fire was just too intense."

Bingo!

[Nordic]

Wow, is that ever weird. Yes, indeed, he is spouting scripted lines and trying to get them out in a way that sounds natural, but it's impossible because they're so badly written.

That's one of the weirdest things I've seen from that day. And there are a LOT of weird things.

Who wrote that? It's TERRIBLE writing!

[Penguin]

In the London 7/7 bombings there was this "eyewitness" who immediately told the press about muslims with backpacks - and later turned out to be a police plant. His name escapes me now, someone else care to give a link?

[John Schröder]

Mark Humphrey is not the Harley Guy:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5387

[RocketMan]

Mark Humphrey is not the Harley Guy

That's a pretty comprehensive rebuttal... and the original blog where this was posited stank to high heaven. But it's a fair avenue of inquiry nonetheless. I remember first seeing this, how incredulously I watched it again and again. Like it's been said before it's such an odd moment among the very real chaos and carnage... Even the Harley Davidson shirt seems somehow over-the-top in retrospect. Or maybe it's just confirmation bias. And I agree with Alice that that exact awkwardly formulated and over-eagerly delivered sentence gives the game away.

[DoYouEverWonder]

Mark Humphrey is not the Harley Guy:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5387

That You Tube video doesn't prove anything.

Since they had clips from one of MH's movies, why didn't they run the audio track that went with them? Instead you get a 2 sec clip over and over with a bunch of noise, oh excuse, music on top of it all.

The height issue is not definitive. A lot of actors probably fudge an inch here or there.

BTW: truthaction is not a reliable source for info IMHO.

[MacCruiskeen]

Mark Humphrey is not the Harley Guy:

http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5387

That You Tube video doesn't prove anything.

Since they had clips from one of MH's movies, why didn't they run the audio track that went with them? Instead you get a 2 sec clip over and over with a bunch of noise, oh excuse, music on top of it all.

I agree, it proves nothing either way. And that repeated sampling and overlaying is just childish and intensely irritating. (I could only endure three minutes of it.) It's like In Plane Sight at its very worst.

The height issue is not definitive. A lot of actors probably fudge an inch here or there.

Very true, just as they often take a couple of years off their age.

BTW: truthaction is not a reliable source for info IMHO.

Can't comment on that, as I'm not really familiar with the site. But I seem to recall JackRiddler saying something similar. (Jack?)

- Having said all that, there can be no excuse whatsoever for the hysterical hassling and even threatening of this guy.

And it beggars belief that any 9/11 conspirator who wanted to plant a fake witness would be so foolish as to seek out an obscure but genuine professional actor for the job! (Can you imagine them negotiating the contract? Can you imagine the rehearsals?) It's even less plausible that they would then allow that hapless thespian to carry on appearing in various TV series for years on end (!), thereby making it easy for any old Internet sleuth to find him, name him, "expose" him, and threaten him.