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Postby AJ Hidell » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:44 am

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Postby lightningBugout » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:58 am

Wow. Thanks for posting these. I am leaning towards unstaged based on the details.
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Postby AJ Hidell » Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:05 am

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Postby justdrew » Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:51 am

a cynical bastard wrote:thanks for activating right on schedule. Timing is an important feature of any information superiority operation. Again, thanks for thinking of us :)
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Postby lightningBugout » Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:52 am

AJ Hidell wrote:A few more at flickr. Top two are said to be in the city of Shiraz; the others are Tehran. I find it interesting that the riot shields say "POLICE".


Yeah I noticed that but the arabic license plate seems real enough. Surely could be Gaza or something though.
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Postby justdrew » Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:56 am

AJ Hidell wrote:A few more at flickr. Top two are said to be in the city of Shiraz; the others are Tehran. I find it interesting that the riot shields say "POLICE".


ya, that's part of the new Esperanto unfortunately. everyone is supposed to know what that means. An interesting question is the tactics going forward... Hostage taking is still out of bounds for peaceful protesters.... but are "authorities" total disregard for protest going to provoke more extreme measures?
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Postby AJ Hidell » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:37 am

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Postby AJ Hidell » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:11 am

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Postby justdrew » Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:07 am

AJ Hidell wrote:
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a cynical bastard wrote:thanks for activating right on schedule. Timing is an important feature of any information superiority operation. Again, thanks for thinking of us :)

Is that an actual quote from somewhere, or a possibility you're raising? (Lots of interesting hits, btw, if you google that phrase [without quotes].)

It's interesting to consider the various information warfare possibilities. The Americans, the Israelis and I guess the Brits certainly would seem to have an interest in hyping these protests, with a goal of regime change or at least a delegitimized government if Ahmadinejad sticks it out. But surely there must be many other possibilities...

(I sometimes question whether the American-Iranian antagonism is for real--we sold them arms in Iran-Contra, right? And they certainly had no love for Saddam.)


yes, I'm a cynical bastard and just putting a name to what it looks like is going on. The Iranian moderates have payed their role once again. Decades go by, same old shit keeps going on. Really, given that we clearly played both sides against each other in the iran-iraq war, how, in a sane world, could either nation forgive us?
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Postby marmot » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:36 pm

Here's a good youtube-portal into the action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSNizjlHWVo&eurl


Btw, the POLICE-inscribed shields struck me a little NWO too. Also, I read on the other thread how the baton-wielding riot-police got a whole brand-spanking-new fleet of Honda motorcycles.

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also from cryptogon: Ahmadinejad Stresses Need for a New World Order
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Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:43 pm

AJ Hidell wrote:A few more at flickr. Top two are said to be in the city of Shiraz; the others are Tehran. I find it interesting that the riot shields say "POLICE".



more English

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Iranian supporters of defeated presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi march in Tehran on June 15, 2009. Opposition supporters defied a ban to stage a mass rally in Tehran in protest at President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's landslide election win, as Iran faced a growing international backlash over the validity of the election and the subsequent crackdown on opposition protests. In the background is a poster of Iran's supreme leader Ali Khamenei.



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Iranian supporters of defeated presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi demonstrate on June 15, 2009 outside the Swedish Parliament in Stockholm. Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei ordered today an investigation into allegations of election fraud, marking a turnaround by the country's most powerful figure and offering hope to opposition forces who have waged street clashes to protest the re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
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Iranian supporters of defeated presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi demonstrate on June 15, 2009 outside the Swedish Parliament in Stockholm. Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei ordered today an investigation into allegations of election fraud, marking a turnaround by the country's most powerful figure and offering hope to opposition forces who have waged street clashes to protest the re-election of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.




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Supporters of Iranian Presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi stage a protest against the election results in Iran near the Iranian embassy in Ankara on June 16, 2009. Iran's bloody crackdown on post-election protesters raised an international outcry today over human rights abuses and demands that Tehran answer "serious questions" about the disputed poll.
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Postby Jeff » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:55 pm

AJ Hidell wrote:(I sometimes question whether the American-Iranian antagonism is for real--we sold them arms in Iran-Contra, right? And they certainly had no love for Saddam.)


Tangential, but I'm reminded of one of the many fascinating passages in Gary Sick's October Surprise, this describing the clandestine Paris meeting:

The Iranians and the Israelis got along well and were relaxed together, but Ben-Menashe said everyone was "strung out" when the Americans arrived. This was a "personality thing," according to Ben-Menashe. The Iranians "simply didn't like them," and Ben-Menashe admitted that he felt much the same way. He recalled that once when he was talking with some Iranians, an American approached the group. One of the Iranians whispered in his ear in Persian, "One of the sons-of-bitches is coming." It was a peculiarity that the Iranians were able to "cosy up" to the Israelis, but not to the Americans. The Iranians and Israelis were chummy. They worked with the Americans but hated them.
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Postby freemason9 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:58 pm

So, why are those signs written in English?
The real issue is that there is extremely low likelihood that the speculations of the untrained, on a topic almost pathologically riddled by dynamic considerations and feedback effects, will offer anything new.
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Postby justdrew » Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:11 pm

freemason9 wrote:So, why are those signs written in English?


the Swedish Iranian-Moderates Protesting Team do all their best work in English. One possible explanation: none of these influencing operations are directed at Iranians. They are directed at American and to some extent European citizens. oh joy. The "whole worlds" going to call for new elections in Iran. LOL. Not in America in 2000, but in Iran in 2009, absolute hilarity ensues.
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