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US drone kills 80 in Pakistan; Obama not outraged

Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:40 am

At Least 80 Killed as US Drones Attack South Waziristan Funeral Procession
Mourners From Early Strike Killed in Second Attack

Jason Ditz, June 23, 2009


Last updated June 24 10:05 AM EST


On Thursday, US drones launched an attack on a compound in South Waziristan, and when locals rushed to the scene to rescue survivors, they launched more missiles at them, leaving a total of 13 dead. The timing and target of the attack were controversial, as was the tactic of luring locals in with a first strike to maximize the kill count. Today, locals were involved in a funeral procession when the US struck again.

Drones attacked what they suspected was a “militant hideout” early today, killing at least 17. When mourners gathered to offer prayers for those slain in the first attack, the drones struck again, attacking the procession itself and bringing the overall toll to at least 80, according to witnesses.

The funeral attack was reportedly aimed at Tehreek-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) chief Baitullah Mehsud, though officials acknowledge that he was not killed in the salvo.

The recent attacks show a level of aggression and a willingness to target gatherings likely to contain many innocent people unseen in previous US strikes in the area. Generally speaking, most of the dozens of attacks against South Waziristan have been isolated strikes against buildings, and were not followed up with supplementary attacks on the gathering crowds.

The attacks come as the Pakistani government begins to ratchet up its own military offensive in the area. It is possible that the Pakistani military’s history of indiscriminate shelling of civilian targets and eagerness for massive kill counts is eliminating the diplomatic obstacles which have kept the deaths from the Americans’ own attacks comparatively low.

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See also: April 10, 2009: 60 drone hits kill 14 al-Qaeda men, 687 civilians
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Postby elfismiles » Thu Jun 25, 2009 12:01 pm

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Obama's Undeclared War Against Pakistan Continues, Despite His Attempt to Downplay It

In a new interview, Obama said he has “no intention” of sending US troops into Pakistan. But US troops are already in the country and US drones attack Pakistan regularly.

By Jeremy Scahill

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Postby AlicetheKurious » Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:02 pm

Who Are the Real Terrorists in Pakistan?
Now We See You, Now We Don't

By KATHY KELLY


In early June, 2009, I was in the Shah Mansoor displaced persons camp in Pakistan, listening to one resident detail the carnage which had spurred his and his family’s flight there a mere 15 days earlier. Their city, Mingora, had come under massive aerial bombardment. He recalled harried efforts to bury corpses found on the roadside even as he and his neighbors tried to organize their families to flee the area.

“They were killing us in that way, there,” my friend said. Then, gesturing to the rows of tents stretching as far as the eye could see, he added, “Now, in this way, here.”

The people in the tent encampment suffered very harsh conditions. They were sleeping on the ground without mats, they lacked water for bathing, the tents were unbearably hot, and they had no idea whether their homes and shops in Mingora were still standing. But, the suffering they faced had only just begun.

UN humanitarian envoy Abdul Aziz Arrukban warned on June 22nd that the millions of Pakistanis displaced during the military’s offensive against the Swat Valley would “die slowly” unless the international community started taking notice of the “unprecedented” scope of the crisis. (Jason Ditz, Anti-War.com)

UN agencies and NGOs such as Islamic Relief and Relief International report that many of the persons now living in tent encampments, or squatting in abandoned buildings, or crowded into schools designated as refugee centers, may soon start dying from preventable disease.

Health teams note increasingly frequent cases of diarrhea, scabies and malaria, all deadly in these circumstances, especially for young children. With so many people living so close to each other, these diseases are spreading fast.

Relief groups are concerned that as the monsoon season approaches, in July, these problems will get considerably worse. Monsoons bring regional floods and cause escalating rates of malaria and waterborne diseases. The impact, this year, is expected to be much more severe because so many people are living in crowded and unsanitary conditions.

Pakistan’s already rundown health care system, officials report, is now near collapse. Hospitals in northern Pakistan have been overwhelmed, with exhausted doctors, depleted medicine supplies and avalanches of red tape blocking money and medicine for the crisis.

Writing for the Associated Press on June 7th, Kathy Gannon described the men’s ward in the Mardan District Hospital: “30 steel beds lie crammed together, with two-inch mattresses and no pillows. Pools of urine spread on the floor, and fresh blood stains the ripped bedding…The one bathroom for 30 patients stinks of urine and faeces. The toilets are overflowing, the door to one cement cubicle is falling off and a two-inch river of urine covers the cement floor. In one corner, garbage is piled high.”

The annual budget for health care in Pakistan, this year, is less than $150 million, while Pakistan’s defense budget last year came to $3.45 billion, and is expected to reach $3.65 billion next year.

People in Shah Mansoor worry that the international community as well as their own government won’t notice the health care crisis they face. But villagers yet to flee their homes in Waziristan agonize under constant military scrutiny from lethally-armed U.S. surveillance drones.

A villager who survived a drone attack in North Waziristan explained that even the children, at play, were acutely conscious of drones flying overhead. After a drone attack, survivors trying to bring injured victims to a hospital were dumbfounded when a driver stopped, learned of their plight and then sped away. Then it dawned on them that the driver was afraid the drone would still be prowling overhead and that he might be targeted for associating with victims of the attack.

The U.S. drone aircraft can see Pakistan - their pilots in air-conditioned Nevada trailers see the terrain even though they are physically thousands of miles away.

Writing about U.S. Air Force efforts to “meet the voracious need for unmanned aircraft surveillance in combat zones,” Grace Jean notes, in the June, 2009 issue of National Defense Magazine, that the Air Force’s 432nd Air Expeditionary Wing, at Creech Air Force Base in Nevada, is expanding base operations. “We have 34 video feeds over the battlefield right now,” says Col. John Montgomery, the wing’s vice commander. When operating a drone, Montgomery says, “You are part of the battlefield.” Commenting on the hundreds of combat sorties he flew over Sadr City, in Baghdad, Montgomery said he even knew where people hung out the laundry and when they took out the trash. “I knew the traffic flow for the hours that I could see, and when that changed, I knew it. Once you know the patterns of life, when things are different or odd, that means something’s up, and that gives the battlefield commander, the joint commander on the ground, a heads up.”

On Tuesday, June 23rd, U.S. drones launched an attack on a compound in South Waziristan. Locals rushed to the scene to rescue survivors. The U.S. drone then launched more missiles at them, leaving a total of 13 dead. The next day, local people were involved in a funeral procession when the U.S. struck again. Reuters reported that 70 of the mourners were killed.

Drone operators and their commanders at Creech Air Force Base will become increasingly well informed about the movements of Pakistani people, but meanwhile the U.S. people will have lost sight of war’s human costs in Pakistan.

Now, we're hearing of imminent army operations in South Waziristan that have already forced about 45,000 people to flee the region, joining about two million men, women, and children displaced by fighting in the Swat Valley and other areas. People from Waziristan who flee from their villages, trying to save their lives, trying not to be seen by the omnipresent drones, will likely join the unseen, the displaced people whose lives and hopes escape international notice as they die slowly.

President Obama has taken us into an expansion of Bush’s war on terror, presumably guided by the rationale that his administration is responsible to root out Al Qaeda terrorists. But the methods used by U.S. and Pakistani military forces, expelling millions of people from their homes, failing to provide food and shelter for those who are displaced, and using overwhelmingly superior weapon technology to attack innocent civilians, -- these methods will continue creating terrorist resisters, not defeating them.

If we want to counter Al-Qaeda, if we want to be safe from further terrorist attacks, we'd do well to remember that even when we don’t recognize the humanity of people bearing the brunt of our wars, these very people have eyes to see and ears to hear. They must be asking themselves, who are the terrorists? [Oh, I think they know -- Alice]

Kathy Kelly co-coordinates Voices for Creative Nonviolence. She is the author of Other Lands Have Dreams published by CounterPunch / AK Press. She can be reached at: Kathy@vcnv.org

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Postby Nordic » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:48 am

I have to admit I was hoping, seeing as how I had absolutely no control over the outcome, that Obama was going to actually be the person that all those enraptured, tear-dripping people thought he was as they watched him speak.

Because I'm really tired of being ashamed and horrified by my country's actions. I mean, really tired of it.

(sigh.......)

This country seems to be in a downward spiral that is accelerating to a frightening degree.

Lately I've realized that civilizations may not degrade over time, like rust on a car, but in quantum leaps of sudden chaos. Like buildings collapsing.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:01 am

“Once you know the patterns of life, when things are different or odd, that means something’s up, and that gives the battlefield commander, the joint commander on the ground, a heads up.”

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Re: US drone kills 80 in Pakistan; Obama not outraged

Postby Occult Means Hidden » Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:22 am


The funeral attack was reportedly aimed at Tehreek-e Taliban Pakistan (TTP) chief Baitullah Mehsud, though officials acknowledge that he was not killed in the salvo.


So what is it? Is it oopsies? - then on with the coffee and doughnuts? Michael Jackson died today ya know. I don't get it.
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Postby 8bitagent » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:15 am

Wow.

Early May, airstrikes by the US kill 147 Afghans.
The liberals are silent, as Obama makes jokes at a dinner reception on tv.

And now 80 people killed by the US in Pakistan.

How fucking sick is it, that some young CIA hot shot with a diet coke in one hand, can video game joystick a toy plane into a country and blow the shit out of village after village? The slicked haired guys doing this probably go home to their wives or girlfriends and have a good fuck and a laugh.

Fuck this shit.

9/11 was a lie, and the liberals collectively in America are too fucking brainwashed to see past that or how wrong the "right" wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan are.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:54 pm

The United States of Terrorism.
Push-button death from above.

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Postby AlicetheKurious » Sun Jun 28, 2009 3:37 am

AFGHANISTAN: Airstrike Report Belies "Blame Taliban" Line

Analysis by Gareth Porter

WASHINGTON, Jun 25, 2009 (IPS) -
The version of the official military investigation into the disastrous May 4 airstrike in Farah province made public last week by the Central Command was carefully edited to save the U.S. command in Afghanistan the embarrassment of having to admit that earlier claims blaming the massive civilian deaths on the "Taliban" were fraudulent.

By covering up the most damaging facts surrounding the incident, the rewritten public version of report succeeded in avoiding media stories on the contradiction between the report and the previous arguments made by the U.S. command.

The declassified "executive summary" of the report on the bombing issued last Friday admitted that mistakes had been made in the use of airpower in that incident. However, it omitted key details which would have revealed the self-serving character of the U.S. command’s previous claims blaming the "Taliban" – the term used for all insurgents fighting U.S. forces - for the civilian deaths from the airstrikes.

The report reasserted the previous claim by the U.S. command that only about 26 civilians had been killed in the U.S. bombing on that day, despite well-documented reports by the government and by the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission that between 97 and 147 people were killed.

The report gave no explanation for continuing to assert such a figure, and virtually admitted that it is not a serious claim by also suggesting that the actual number of civilian deaths in the incident "may never be known".

The report also claimed that "at least 78 Taliban fighters" were killed. The independent human rights organisation had said in its May 26 report that at most 25 to 30 insurgents had been killed, though not necessarily in the airstrike.

A closer reading of the paragraph in the report on Taliban casualties reveals, however, that the number does not actually refer to deaths from the airstrike at all. The paragraph refers twice to "the engagement" as well as to "the fighting" and "the firefight", indicating that the vast majority of the Taliban who died were all killed in ground fighting, not by the U.S. airstrike.

An analysis of the report’s detailed descriptions of the three separate airstrikes also shows that the details in question could not have been omitted except by a deliberate decision to cover up the most damaging facts about the incident.

The "executive summary" states that the decision to call in all three airstrikes in Balabolook district on May 4 was based on two pieces of "intelligence" available to the ground commander, an unidentified commander of a special operations forces unit from the U.S. Marine Corps Special Operations Command (MarSOC).

One piece of intelligence is said to have been an intercepted statement by a Taliban commander to his fighters to "mass to maneuver and re-attack" the Afghan and U.S. forces on the scene. The other was visual sighting of the movement of groups of adults moving at intervals in the dark away from the scene of the firefight with U.S. forces.

A number of insurgents were said by the report to have been killed in a mosque that was targeted in the first of the three strikes. The "absence of local efforts to attempt to recover bodies from the rubble in a timely manner", the following morning, according to the report, indicates that the bodies were all insurgent fighters, not civilians.

But the report indicates that the airstrikes referred to as the "second B1-B strike" and the "third B-1B strike" caused virtually all of the civilian deaths. The report’s treatment of those two strikes is notable primarily for what it omits with regard to information on casualties rather than for what it includes.

It indicates that the ground force commander judged the movement of a "second large group" – again at night without clear identification of whether they were military or civilian – indicated that they were "enemy fighters massing and rearming to attack friendly forces" and directed the bombing of a target to which they had moved.

The report reveals that two 500-pound bombs and two 2,000-pound bombs were dropped on the target, not only destroying the building being targeted but three other nearby houses as well.

In contrast to the report’s claim regarding the earlier strike, the description of the second airstrike admits that the "destruction may have resulted in civilian casualties". Even more important, however, it says nothing about any evidence that there were Taliban fighters killed in the strike – thus tacitly admitting that the casualties were in fact civilians.

The third strike is also described as having been prompted by another decision by the ground commander that a third group moving in the dark away from the firefight was "another Taliban element". A single 2,000-pound bomb was dropped on a building to which the group had been tracked, again heavily damaging a second house nearby.

Again the report offers no evidence suggesting that there were any "Taliban" killed in the strike, in contrast to the first airstrike.

By these signal omissions, aimed at avoiding the most damaging facts in the incident, the report confirms that no insurgent fighters were killed in the airstrikes which killed very large numbers of civilians. The report thus belies a key propaganda line that the U.S. command had maintained from the beginning – that the Taliban had deliberately prevented people from moving from their houses so that civilian casualties would be maximised.

As recently as Jun. 3, the spokesperson for the U.S. command in Afghanistan, Lt. Commander Christine Sidenstricker, was still telling the website Danger Room that "civilians were killed because the Taliban deliberately caused it to happen" and that the "Taliban" had "forced civilians to remain in places they were attacking from".

The central contradiction between the report and the U.S. military’s "human shields" argument was allowed to pass unnoticed in the extremely low-key news media coverage of the report.

News coverage of the report has focused either on the official estimate of only 26 civilian deaths and the much larger number of Taliban casualties or on the absence of blame on the part of U.S. military personnel found by the investigators.

The Associated Press reported that the United States had "accidentally killed an estimated 26 Afghan civilians last month when a warplane did not strictly adhere to rules for bombing".

The New York Times led with the fact that the investigation had called for "additional training" of U.S. air crews and ground forces but did hold any personnel "culpable" for failing to follow the existing rules of engagement.

None of the news media reporting on the highly expurgated version of the investigation pointed out that it had confirmed, in effect, the version of the event that had been put forward by residents of the bombed villages.

As reported by the New York Times May 6, one of the residents interviewed by phone said six houses had been completely destroyed and that the victims of the bombing "were rushing to go to their relative’s houses where they believed they would be safe, but they were hit on the way."

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Postby 8bitagent » Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:01 am

Damn good post Alice!!

Yeah I didnt know the Taliban has 2,000 pound aerial bombs and loads of modern white phospherus armaments.

Im surprised more people arent shocked by the images of chemical weapon(by America) white phospherus burned Afghan children in hospitals.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Jun 28, 2009 11:41 am

Any fool knows that the Taliban manufacture their white phosphorus in the same facility where they make their nanothermite.
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Postby StarmanSkye » Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:12 pm

Gawd, I'm SO fuckin' sick and tired & disgusted with this shit; If I lived in NE Pakistan, I'd KNOW who the real terrorists are. I mean, how can you live, how can you defend yourselves and your family, make a living, be HUMAN when you're being threatened from toy airplanes that can bomb your village on a whim?

This is absolute madness -- and its only going to get worse, isn't it? The American way seems to be provoking violence, then using a scorched-earth attitude to depopulate a 'contested' area. Which is being done on a wide scale in Africa, through proxy militias and opportunists funded & armed by the good ol' US of A via oil conglomerate fronts.

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Postby 8bitagent » Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:37 pm

StarmanSkye wrote:Gawd, I'm SO fuckin' sick and tired & disgusted with this shit; If I lived in NE Pakistan, I'd KNOW who the real terrorists are. I mean, how can you live, how can you defend yourselves and your family, make a living, be HUMAN when you're being threatened from toy airplanes that can bomb your village on a whim?



It's amazing the disconnect there must be. To sit back in some dark room far away, and use an arcade like joystick to pilot a UAV plane, blowing up villages. 80 seems to be the usual civilian death count with major predator strikes; like when the US blew up a Pakistani madrassas claiming it was a "haven for al Qaeda".

Its like that 1992 Robin Williams film "Toys", where a general takes over the toy company and starts play test virtual reality UAV missions...the kids of course not realizing they were blowing up real people.

Again to me its bizarre how so many on the left will apologize, white wash or actually support all this insanity
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Postby 8bitagent » Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:38 pm

StarmanSkye wrote:

This is absolute madness -- and its only going to get worse, isn't it? The American way seems to be provoking violence, then using a scorched-earth attitude to depopulate a 'contested' area. Which is being done on a wide scale in Africa, through proxy militias and opportunists funded & armed by the good ol' US of A via oil conglomerate fronts.


The amount of bloodshed being conducted in Ethiopia, Congo, Swaziland, parts of Kenya and of course Sudan is truly disheartening...especially when you learn of sovereign nation involvements and energy corporations
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:31 pm

8bitagent wrote:.....
Its like that 1992 Robin Williams film "Toys", where a general takes over the toy company and starts play test virtual reality UAV missions...


Bingo.

You just pointed out a typical example of how movies are used to prepare us for new weapons by first portraying them as fictional entertainment.
(See Wall*E)

Because that's what was really going on in the US military and we thought it was just a cute 12/18/92 Robin Williams movie gag with a 'liberal message' against war toys. Except for LL Cool J running around being a paramilitary recruiting message for the economic drafting of African-Americans.

Gee, why would that anti-war-toy message be promoted so soon after Gulf War I?

Because an IranContra CIA operator, Gary Best, stole Bob Fletcher's toy factory in Marietta, Georgia to make weapons for the CIA, Singlaub, North, etc.

So the 'war toys are bad for you'-theme was yet another meme-hijacking decoy.

1. Bob Fletcher Investigations - Home

"PROBE: General Richard Secord also was connected to your toy factory? FLETCHER: Absolutely. And Gary Best, Richard Secord, Aderholt and Singlaub's latest ..."
www.bobfletcherinvestigations.com/

2. Bob Fletcher Investigations - Spying on the Spies

"It had been reported that Gary Best, after I had the toy company stolen from me, ..... Copy rights 1996 Bob Fletcher.. Excerpts from “The Animal Factory ..."
www.bobfletcherinvestigations.com/spyin ... -spies.php

3. Sibel Edmonds, drugs, Azerbaijan and 9/11 - Democratic Underground

"Now, Gary Best. He appears to be some character, albeit an elusive one: "Bob Fletcher owned a toy factory in Marietta, Georgia near Lockheed ..."
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