RFK & Jackie had an affair (per NY Post)

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RFK & Jackie had an affair (per NY Post)

Postby pepsified thinker » Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:44 pm

This seems like a National Enquirer story--and the Post is of about that calibre, right?--but the article mentions quite a few people who would be able to refute statements attributed to them, so I'm thinking/wondering if maybe there's something to this.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07062009/news/nationalnews/jackies_doomed_love___with_rfk_177775.htm

JACKIE'S DOOMED LOVE - WITH RFK
By JEANE MacINTOSH

July 6, 2009 --
Jackie Kennedy had a four-year love affair with Bobby Kennedy that began not long after JFK's assassination and grew so intense that when RFK was gunned down, it was she -- not his wife -- who instructed doctors to pull the plug, an explosive new book claims.

The married senator and father of 11 kids was the former first lady's one "true love" -- and his wife, Ethel, along with the rest of the Kennedy clan, knew about their romance, according to "Bobby and Jackie: A Love Story."

"Everybody knew about the affair. The two of them carried on like a pair of lovesick teenagers," the late Franklin Roosevelt Jr., who served as JFK's undersecretary of commerce, says in the book.

"I suspect Bobby would've liked to dump Ethel and marry Jackie, but, of course, that wasn't possible."

The book, which hits shelves this month, also includes recollections of the steamy affair from a host of other Kennedy family intimates, including Pierre Salinger, Arthur Schlesinger, Jack Newfield, Gore Vidal, Truman Capote and Morton Downey Jr.

Author C. David Heymann said he spent nearly two decades researching the tome, even digging through old FBI and Secret Service files about the clandestine couple. Tapes of his exhaustive interviews are available at the SUNY Stony Brook library.

The book's most shocking claims include:

* Six months after JFK's death, during a May 1964 dinner cruise on the presidential yacht the USS Sequoia, Bobby and Jackie "exchanged poignant glances" before disappearing below deck, leaving Ethel upstairs. "When they returned, they looked as chummy and relaxed as a pair of Cheshire cats," according to Schlesinger

* At the Kennedys' Palm Beach estate during Christmas 1964, socialite Mary Harrington saw Jackie sunbathing topless, with Bobby kneeling at her side.

"As they began to kiss, he placed one hand on her breast and the other inside of her bikini bottom," Harrington recalled.

"I was shocked. It was clear that Bobby was sleeping with his sister-in-law."

RFK later told Harrington -- who had her own affair with RFK -- he loved Ethel but "felt just as strongly about Jackie."

* When Commerce Department administrator Kenneth McKnight arrived for a late-evening meeting with Sen. Kennedy in July 1966, he found Bobby sitting on a sofa -- with Jackie "straddling his lap, her arms around his neck."

* At one point, Ethel Kennedy implored family friend Frank Moore to "tell Bobby to stop sleeping with Jackie." Instead, Moore told her to find a marriage counselor.

* Shipping tycoon Aristotle Onassis -- RFK's rival for Jackie's attention -- once threatened to "bring down" Bobby by going public with details of the affair. "I could bury that sucker," Onassis said, "although I'd lose Jackie in the process."

By all accounts, the romance between Jackie and Bobby sprang from their shared grief over the Nov. 22, 1963, assassination of John F. Kennedy.

"It was the coming together of a man and a woman as a result of his bereavement and her mental suffering at the hands of her late, lecherous husband," according to Jackie confidant Truman Capote.

"It was passionate, [but] it was doomed."

According to Gore Vidal, "The one person Jackie ever loved . . . was Robert Kennedy."

"You had to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see it," recalled Kennedy family friend Chuck Spalding, who often traveled with the pair.

Ethel -- who stayed home with the kids in Virginia -- knew about their relationship, but "evidently chose to ignore it," Heymann writes. She was confident RFK would never leave her or their family.

Still, whenever Jackie visited Bobby in Hyannis Port, "Ethel would jump up and leave the room."

By mid-1967, Jackie -- who had also been dating Onassis -- was contemplating marriage to him. She agreed to wait until after Bobby's 1968 presidential run.

RFK told Pierre Salinger, "She'll marry that man over my dead body."

On March 16, 1968, Bobby announced his bid for president. The next morning, a "morose" RFK called Jack Newfield from Jackie's apartment.

"If I had to hazard a guess," the late Post columnist recalled, "I'd say this must have been their last romantic occasion together."

On June 4, minutes after winning the California primary, Bobby was fatally shot by Sirhan Sirhan at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles.

Jackie flew to his bedside -- and Ethel allowed her time alone with the dying RFK, according to the book.

Bobby was brain-dead, but a distraught Ethel refused to pull the plug, and brother Ted Kennedy was in no shape to make the call, Heymann writes.

At 1:20 a.m. June 6, 1968, Jackie Kennedy ordered the respirator shut down and signed the consent form, the book reveals.

That October, she married Onassis.
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Heymann? A spotty record. Mossad? Other?

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Mon Jul 06, 2009 9:12 pm

Viral marketing psyops to reinforce the 'Sirhan-dunnit' lie at the end of the article, perhaps as payback for access...

That's a lot of research to do yet get such an important fact so wrong.

His publisher is Michael Crichton's publisher. Crichton was a spook author.

Yeah, I know. WRH. Anyway...
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/JFK_JR/goldman.html
In the following article, Andrew Goldman blows the lid off the fact that deliberate false information was being planted with the media by C. David Heymann.
.....
Kennedy ‘Expert' C. David Heymann: Do His J.F.K. Jr. Stories Hold Up?

by Andrew Goldman
.....
According to Mr. Heymann, when Mr. Kennedy started George in 1995, he asked Mr. Heymann to write about his experiences in the Mossad, the Israeli secret service, of which Mr. Heymann claims to have been a member of during the ’80s.
.....
Poor Little Rich Girl: The Life and Legend of Barbara Hutton, was published in 1983. A few weeks later, Random House recalled the book because a Beverly Hills doctor, who Mr. Heymann claimed had overprescribed drugs to Hutton, pointed out that in the year Mr. Heymann had him drugging Hutton, he was only 14 years old. The print run of 58,000 copies of the book was shredded, and Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morganthau’s office investigated Mr. Heymann for fraud.
.....


Or-
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKheymann.htm

Heymann is an entertainment writer (several of his books have been TV miniseries), and this book does not try to act as history - instead, it's a fast-moving mix of interviews, hearsay, anecdotes, quotes and fact. New York Post gossip columnist Liz Smith said the book is "one juicy story after another." However juicy they may be, most of the stories in THE GEORGETOWN LADIES' SOCIAL CLUB have been told before: Phil Graham's mental illness and suicide, Joe and Susan Mary Alsops's sham marriage, Jackie Kennedy's distraught widowhood, Mary Pinchot Meyer's still-unsolved murder, Pamela Harriman's easy-to-bed, easy-to-wed persona, Elizabeth Taylor's gluttonous time in Virginia - these have all been fodder for Smith and her ilk for decades.


More here-
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4641

John Simkin wrote:(5) What do you make of this passage in C. David Heymann’s book, The Georgetown Ladies' Social Club (2003)

Cord Meyer gave expression to his support of Angleton in, "Facing Reality," an autobiography subtitled, "From World Federalism to the CIA." In the same volume, he comments briefly on the murder of his wife: "I was satisfied by the conclusions of the police investigation that Mary had been the victim of a sexually motivated assault by a single individual and that she had been killed in her struggle to escape." Carol Delaney, a family friend and longtime personal assistant to Cord Meyer, observed that, "Mr. Meyer didn't for a minute think that Ray Crump had murdered his wife or that it had been an attempted rape. But, being an Agency man, he couldn't very well accuse the CIA of the crime, although the murder had all the markings of an in-house rubout."

Asked to comment on the case, by the current author (C. David Heymann), Cord Meyer held court at the beginning of February 2001 - six weeks before his death - in the barren dining room of a Washington nursing home. Propped up in a chair, his glass eye bulging, he struggled to hold his head aloft. Although he was no longer able to read, the nurses supplied him with a daily copy of The Washington Post, which he carried with him wherever he went. "My father died of a heart attack the same year Mary was killed , " he whispered. "It was a bad time." And what could he say about Mary Meyer? Who had committed such a heinous crime? "The same sons of bitches," he hissed, "that killed John F. Kennedy."


The subject of that discussion thread, author Nina Burleigh, responds that Heymann is full of shit-
Nina Burleigh wrote:Absolute utter hogwash. Cord Meyer was apparently enraged at my well-researched book, and I cannot believe he would sit down with Heymann, no matter how near death.

At the end of his life, Cord had a very disfigured visage from mouth and jaw cancer - you would think Heymann would have mentioned that fact if he had seen him in the flesh.


This kerfuffle would all explain why CIA-Life Magazine has a Jackie-O special on the racks for a few months plus this year's earlier movie-
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Postby lupercal » Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:10 am

Shipping tycoon Aristotle Onassis -- RFK's rival for Jackie's attention -- once threatened to "bring down" Bobby by going public with details of the affair. "I could bury that sucker," Onassis said. . . . RFK told Pierre Salinger, "She'll marry that man over my dead body."


Of course! Onassis had Bobby wiped out. He was Greek right? And Greece is next to Italy, where the mafia guys live? Now it all makes sense. Another case closed. Conspiracies are kooky!
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Postby MinM » Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:02 am

To paraphrase Sarah Palin - the PTB used a full-court press to counter Oliver Stone and "JFK" - throughout the media and on the net:

Who Are: Perry, Russo, Mack, Loomis, Pozner, McAdams et al.? - The Education Forum

Probe V4N6: The Posthumous Assassination of JFK

Probe V5N1: The Posthumous Assassination of JFK Part II

http://www.blackopradio.com/pod/black430c.mp3
lupercal wrote:
Shipping tycoon Aristotle Onassis -- RFK's rival for Jackie's attention -- once threatened to "bring down" Bobby by going public with details of the affair. "I could bury that sucker," Onassis said. . . . RFK told Pierre Salinger, "She'll marry that man over my dead body."


Of course! Onassis had Bobby wiped out. He was Greek right? And Greece is next to Italy, where the mafia guys live? Now it all makes sense. Another case closed. Conspiracies are kooky!

Even TV shows like "Quantum Leap" got into the act with a Lone-Nutter, Oswald did it episode.

"Northern Exposure" had an episode called 'Do the Right Thing' (11-30-92) in which a former Soviet Spy is looking to make some money by selling KGB files. When the spy is asked about the JFK case he claims that Onassis did it. :roll:

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