Coincidence/Synchronicity/Jung/RAW/QM, etc

[nathan28]

So zap, answer this, please.

When Gaetano Fonzi is the lead JFK investigator for the House Select Committee on assassinations scrutinizing the 'magic bullet' theory signed off by FBI ballistics expert, Courtland Cunningham...and the sit-com viewing public is given "Fonzi" and the "Cunninghams" on 'Happy Days' plus "Dallas" and "who shot J.R."...is this just the 'universe winking at us?

Or is this real human beings writing decoy psyops scripts to protect the US government?

Maybe ask your magic teapot!

In that case Id be more inclined to your theory, Hugh (as Ive said before).

Oh, but HMWs, how your strange Americana somehow misses the obvious:

This would indicate CIA involvement, as WP is CIA paper.

http://www.borev.net/2009/07/its_a_hat_trick_of_fail_for_th.html

It's A Hat Trick Of Fail, For The Washington Post Editorial Page



God bless 'em, the Washington Post remains quite devoted to making this insanely bungle coup go well. Today they published their third opinion piece defending the military takeover, bringing the tally to, um, 3-0. They are officially far, far to the right of the Obama administration, every world institution, and every single country in Latin America and Europe, including Silvio freaking Berlusconi.

And for every gasbag pundit out there still making the comical argument that this was somehow a constitutional process, you'll probably want to revisit your talking points, now that the coup government's top military lawyer has acknowledged the whole thing was totally illegal but, in his professional opinion, was like fuck it.

And sometimes also, a coincidence is a coincidence. Thou I have yet to hear a plausible explanation for stuff like "random", from any physicist, astronomer or mathematician. They dont know either.

I dont know what to think about these claimed "media synchronicities", "synchromysticism", maybe because I consider it a personal thing, and have only experienced personal insights this way - except for what I saw when WTC strikes happened (saw buildings on my both sides explode and collapse as I walked on the street, on the other side of the globe, about 15-0 minutes before the first plane hit - then heard of it only hour and a half later, and marked the exact time then - Ive mentioned this here too before, and wrote to elfismiles in more detail bout it). Thats the only time it was something not personal.

For whatever thats worth.

Penguin, that's important right there. Jung himself said it synchronicity had to have personal meaning to the person experiencing it. I think somewhere Zap suggested he's open to believing that the "synchromystic" crap is just that, quite possibly and intentional distraction.

[Zap]

So zap, answer this, please.

When Gaetano Fonzi is the lead JFK investigator for the House Select Committee on assassinations scrutinizing the 'magic bullet' theory signed off by FBI ballistics expert, Courtland Cunningham...and the sit-com viewing public is given "Fonzi" and the "Cunninghams" on 'Happy Days' plus "Dallas" and "who shot J.R."...is this just the 'universe winking at us?

Or is this real human beings writing decoy psyops scripts to protect the US government?

Maybe ask your magic teapot!

I don't know which one is the magic one, or maybe I would. It would make about as much sense as your theories about Oswald in the Middle, etc .. I dunno.

I do believe that the government is engaged in psyops via mainstream media, I just don't think it goes on the way you propose it does.

There is so much more the PTB could do to manipulate the public through mass media than the weak synchromystical connotative coincidences you find so stimulating. This is why I find your efforts on here misguided at best, and functionally disinfo even if there is no such intent on your part.

I mean ... come on. 'Happy Days' and 'Dallas' came on over a decade after JFK died. How many citizens thirteen years later remembered or gave a shit who the ballistic expert's name was? If anything, they associated the theory with Arlen Specter ...

Who'd ever heard of Fonzi - he was a minor character in the HSCA investigation, not listed as a member, etc - and when he did become known, it was for writing a book about how the whole investigation was a sham, and the CIA was involved in the assassination.

Why would the CIA want to put all that time and effort just to paint his name with connotations of the coolest dude on TV?

Now, if I was you, I'd be looking for a hijacking of Fonzi's name that made him look like a stupid buffoon .... hmmm ...

[Zap]

Wow - I knew the second I saw that pic it was Salvia space. I've spent some eternities in those little fractal brownstone houses and doorways ...

Anyway, I gotta agree with most everything Penguin's said in here so far. Synchronicity happens, it's more than coincidence and greater than the CIA, minds are leaky in both directions, and 9/11* was totally fucked up and not what it seemed (although I cannot find it in me to buy the 'Kurt Russell Stargate' connection at all, no matter how interesting it would be).

*(I had someone from NYC sleeping on my couch when it went down - she was crying, but I was excited - something bizarre and big was afoot ... HMW will be perhaps be amused to know that I repeatedly referred to the unfolding events as "something out of a Tom Clancy novel.")

[Penguin]

Why does Hugh laugh off the "woo" when he himself is applying the same kind of Jake Kotze/Goro Adachi numerology and synchronistic fun and games to events and media?

I mean isn't that the fun here, the challenge? To look at every event or big media situation and extrapolate your own "find the esoteric or deep politic hidden codes"?

Jeff should at random assign us every week a totally random movie,
event, tv show, etc for us to make up our own "NWO/esoteric/CIA" syncs encoded in.

It'd be fun! We could mix and match Hugh Manatee-isms with syncs and numerology, to stitch together a pastiche of fun insanity!

Of course, he will never admit to that, unless maybe with the Iron Maiden...

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Psyops is not 'synchromysticism.'
It is subtle and veiled to accomplish both subliminal effects and plausible deniability.

It is a combination of:
> military doctrines - psyops, counterinsurgency, stability operations, etc.
> neuroscience - memory reinforcement or interference
> social science - cultural transmission, support of role models and stereotypes, etc.
> marketing game theory - grabbing market share of hearts and minds

So zap, answer this, please.

When Gaetano Fonzi is the lead JFK investigator for the House Select Committee on assassinations scrutinizing the 'magic bullet' theory signed off by FBI ballistics expert, Courtland Cunningham...and the sit-com viewing public is given "Fonzi" and the "Cunninghams" on 'Happy Days' plus "Dallas" and "who shot J.R."...is this just the 'universe winking at us?

Or is this real human beings writing decoy psyops scripts to protect the US government?

Maybe ask your magic teapot!

I don't know which one is the magic one, or maybe I would. It would make about as much sense as your theories about Oswald in the Middle, etc .. I dunno.

Use of decoys is an ancient military tactic.

I do believe that the government is engaged in psyops via mainstream media, I just don't think it goes on the way you propose it does.

There is so much more the PTB could do to manipulate the public through mass media than the weak synchromystical connotative coincidences you find so stimulating.

There are many ways that gov't agents do psyops.
Using priming in entertainment is just one of them.

This is why I find your efforts on here misguided at best, and functionally disinfo even if there is no such intent on your part.

Straw man. Psyops is many faceted, not either or.
Lots of people know we are lied to by Operation Mockingbird news readers and their corporate allies.

But very few know how entertainment is scripted to prime the audience with bias and as culture-jamming counterpropaganda using the same tactics as advertising to grab a market share of 'hearts and minds.'

That's what I've studied to open that field up.

I mean ... come on. 'Happy Days' and 'Dallas' came on over a decade after JFK died.

January 1974, a mid-season replacement show. Timing.

Good old FBI Courtland Cunningham was coming back into play after helping to falsely frame-up Lee Harvey Oswald in front of the Warren Commission.

Because the cover-up of faked ballistics by LAPD head criminologist, DeWayne Wolfer, in the 1968 Robert Kennedy murder case was coming apart very badly from 1971-1975 with a special surge right when 'Happy Days' went on the air.

Wolfer was exposed as a fraud when he got kicked upstairs in 1971 and his record of faking evidence in 1967 came out. An honest criminologist, William Harper, checked Wolfer's work on the RFK case and found extreme fraud.

Then a documentary film called 'The Second Gun' by someone who was at the RFK shooting, Theodore Charach, was playing in theaters in October 1973.

January 1974, 'Happy Days' is inserted into the schedule.

Later in 1974 LA councilman, Ward Baxter, pushed for a new RFK inquiry.
Courtland Cunningham was brought in to cover Wolfer's lying ass.
Just as he had for the JFK murder.

That's just in LA.
Then as the Pike and Church Committee's dug into CIA assassinations, the role of 'Fonzie' on 'Happy Days' was significantly increased for that season.
Timing. The show changed from being all about Richie Cunningham to being the 'Fonzie' show.

Gaeton Fonzi had face-to-face ripped apart Arlen Spector's 'magic bullet' story that Courtland Cunningham had helped sell in Warren Commission testimony. Gaeton Fonzi did this in 1967 newpapers when the Garrison vs Shaw prosecution had just gone public. Now his nemesis, FBI Courtland Cunningham, was back on the field. And Gaeton Fonzi was, too.

Pretty good time to create positive associations with the name "Cunningham" with all growed-up squeaky clean "Opie" and family and competing associations with "Fonzi", isn't it?

Timing. Many other CIA/JFK decoys were embedded in 'Happy Days,' including the title which came from a CIA attempt to discredit a foreign leader with a fake porn film called...'Happy Days.'

And many other tv shows and movies were created as decoys of the CIA's many crimes, not just 'Happy Days.'

How many citizens thirteen years later remembered or gave a shit who the ballistic expert's name was? If anything, they associated the theory with Arlen Specter ...

Who'd ever heard of Fonzi - he was a minor character in the HSCA investigation, not listed as a member, etc - and when he did become known, it was for writing a book about how the whole investigation was a sham, and the CIA was involved in the assassination.

See above.

Why would the CIA want to put all that time and effort just to paint his name with connotations of the coolest dude on TV?

Same as advertising. Same reason Coke and Pepsi advertise, to get market share.

The idea is to create competing associations with keywords and memes that are a threat to power using mnemonics. Priming.
Fictionalizing reality does this. Then even more priming can be applied to do negative or positive framing of people, behaviors, values, or entities.

Now, if I was you, I'd be looking for a hijacking of Fonzi's name that made him look like a stupid buffoon .... hmmm ...

You mean like the figure of speech, "jump the shark?"

At first Fonzie was somewhat dark and threatening, an outsider, a...loner.
Hey-that's meme-reversal of what the real Gaeton Fonzi was exposing-that the 'lone gunman' was a cover story.
See 'interference theory' and the 'similarity paradox' related to memory recall. That's some neuroscience research for you to do.

Another attribute of the fictional Fonz was that he made things happen by just snapping his fingers. He shaped the world to meet his needs.
This is another meme-reversal of the real world investigator uncovering facts to expose a manufactured cover story.

Later, the fictional Fonzie became self-satire by "jumping the shark."
And now that phrase for "ridiculously unbelievable" is attached to the name "Fonzie."

Mission accomplished.

[IanEye]

Goodbye grey sky, hello blue.
There's nothing can hold me when I hold you.
Feels so right, it can't be wrong.
Rockin' and rollin' all week long.

These days are all,
Happy and Free. (Those Happy Days)
These days are all,
Share them with me. (oh baby)

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[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Days#History]Happy Days originated during a time of 1950s nostalgic interest evident in film, television, and music. The show began as an unsold pilot filmed in late 1971 called New Family in Town, with Harold Gould in the role of Howard Cunningham, Marion Ross as Marion, Ron Howard as Richie, Anson Williams as Potsie, Ric Carrott as Charles "Chuck" Cunningham, and Susan Neher as Joanie.
While Paramount passed on making it into a weekly series, the pilot was recycled with the title Love and the Happy Days, for presentation on the television anthology series Love, American Style.
In 1972, George Lucas asked to view the pilot to determine if Ron Howard would be suitable to play a teenager in American Graffiti, then in preproduction. Lucas immediately cast Howard in the film, which became one of the top-grossing films of 1973. Show creator Garry Marshall and ABC recast the unsold pilot to turn Happy Days into a series.
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Hugh, I don’t know if I have ever told you this, but I was a real “American Graffiti” snob when I was a kid. That is, I thought “American Grafftti” was awesome and “Happy Days” sucked, especially Fonzie. All my peers were running around at recess, going “Aaayyy” and sticking their thumbs up in the air and I wanted to punch them in the throat. Why couldn’t they see that Arthur Fonzarelli was a pale imitation of John Milner? What was wrong with them?

It only got worse when “Star Wars” came out. ‘Oh Mr. Lucas, why are wasting your time with this stupid light saber crap? Why aren’t you making a sequel to “American Graffiti”?’

I won’t even relate to you the anger I felt when that fucking “Grease” movie came out in 1978.

I was 10 years old.

Anyway, it would be cool if you could work the whole “Love, American Style” angle into your thesis. "Love, American Style" is a really odd show...
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Sittin' in my car outside your house
Remember when you spilled coke all over your blouse
T-shirts, cut-offs, and a pair of thongs
We've been having fun all summer long

All summer long you've been with me
I can't see enough of you
All summer long we've both been free
Won't be long til summer time is through
Summer time is through
Not for us now!

Miniature golf and Hondas in the hills
When we rode the horse we got some thrills
Every now and then we hear our song
We've been having fun all summer long

Won't be long till summer time is through
Not for us now!

"All Summer Long"

[Sounder]

Hugh wrote….

Use of decoys is an ancient military tactic.

Yes, -well

Maybe I was wrong to think that we had gotten past the either/or treatment of these subjects.

For the record Hugh, I have little problem accepting the particulars of many of the things you present. And I trust that in time you will come to notice the manner by which the universe is winking at you.

(And yes, I did have a 1917 penny in my milk money on Nov 22, 1963.)

[Zap]

I simply cannot believe that the show "Happy Days" was created to "hijack" the name "Fonzi/e" - in order to subliminally discredit a then-minor investigator - by connecting him with one of the most popular characters to ever be in a sitcom. It's ludicrous.

(The fact that the show "jumped the shark" did nothing to discredit Fonzie the character, who remains an icon of cool for millions.)

I think the problem is that you allow too much fuzziness into your analysis, in each of too many leaps. With the varied fuzzy tools at your arsenal of belief, there is no connection that you cannot make, no trivial fact that you cannot see CIA manipulation in.

I mean, the reason I ever took issue with your style of connect-the-dotsing was when you accused me and my website of being CIA - and that the story of my synchronistic teapots was a plot to make people more open to CIA manipulation. Do you still think so?

If so, well, I rest my case.

If not - maybe you can look back and examine your thinking as you made the leaps from "teapot coincidence story" to "CIA mind control," and see where and how it led you astray.

[marmot]

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[IanEye]

IanEye. I never would have pegged you as the violent type!

marmot, it is fair to say i have mellowed considerably since Jimmy Carter was President....

[professorpan]

Zap, RI history would show that it's a waste of calories typing polite, reasoned responses to Hugh. He has appointed himself the Grand Inquisitor when it comes to any discussion that doesn't acknowledge his loony metaconspiracy, and he will attempt to inject said theory with the politeness and tact of a granite boulder dropping on one's head.

It would be nice to be able to discuss synchronicity and related topics without having it denigrated as "shit" and, by association, the slander that those of us who find it fascinating are full of shit.

This forum is not, and never had been, limited to the discussion of politics, deep politics, or the fucking CIA. But since there is no moderated "safe haven" from threadjackery, my suggestion is just to not feed the trollish manatees.

Please carry on with this very fascinating thread. This is why I love RI.

[Username]

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Zap, RI history would show that it's a waste of calories typing polite, reasoned responses to Hugh. He has appointed himself the Grand Inquisitor when it comes to any discussion that doesn't acknowledge his loony metaconspiracy, and he will attempt to inject said theory with the politeness and tact of a granite boulder dropping on one's head.

It would be nice to be able to discuss synchronicity and related topics without having it denigrated as "shit" and, by association, the slander that those of us who find it fascinating are full of shit.

This forum is not, and never had been, limited to the discussion of politics, deep politics, or the fucking CIA. But since there is no moderated "safe haven" from threadjackery, my suggestion is just to not feed the trollish manatees.

Please carry on with this very fascinating thread. This is why I love RI.

Gee, what a coincidence that Pan would post on this very thread solely for the purpose of smearing HMW, and not have anything to say about the topic. That's not trollish behavior though, because Pan is a moderator and he loves RI.

If we can only get Hugh to ingest megadoses of LSD, then he would understand the universe and all it's synchronicities...right, Pan?

Now wouldn't it REALLY be something if Orz showed up to cheer the professor on and ridicule HMW? (Synchronized trolling.)
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[Penguin]

Please dont, step away from the gasoline, sirs.



Lets get on..
In a gentle manner, if you will

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Ignore 'professor pan.' Several years ago he began targeting me with lies and deceptions. I just write about CIA history and psyops tactics.

Is this following just a coincidence?



On December 13, 1989 Nelson Mandela meets with South African president FW DeKlerk to negotiate Mandela's release after 25 years in prison. He will become a free man.
http://www.anc.org.za/ancdocs/history/m ... 91212.html

This progression of events posed a big public relations problem for the CIA because a CIA agent named Donald C. Rickard had fingered Mandela in August 1962 and that's why he spent those 25 years in jail after his 1964 sentencing to life imprisonment. He'd already done two years on lesser charges.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Blum/ ... WBlum.html

Disguised as a chauffeur to Cecil Williams, Mandela had been coming back from a secret meeting with the SACP. But he was intercepted and arrested. Yes, as a chauffeur. Quite an image, isn't it?

On December 15, 1989 by amazing coincidence, precisely when Mandela is meeting with DeKlerk to finalize his freedom terms, CIA-Hollywood opened a heart-warming movie about a black chauffeur and a "25 year" relationship.
Starring Morgan Freeman, of course.

Let's recap:
> December 13, 1989 the black leader the CIA had arrested as a chauffeur begins release talks after 25 years in prison. He'll be a free man.

> December 15, 1989 CIA-Hollywood touches our hearts with a movie about a black chauffeur and a 25-year relationship. Applaud Mr. Freeman.



"The funny, touching, and totally irresistible story of a working relationship that became a 25-year friendship."





Is this just a coincidence?
Or is it typical CIA culture-jamming? A decoy?
Just script counterpropaganda using interference theory and inoculation theory to exploit the confirmed neuroscience of memory recall and social transmission?

[Penguin]

Its either the CIA, or its coincidence.
Its not what this thread was about, Im pretty sure.

Hugh, start a new thread if you want to go further with this.