An American Affair - Mary Pinchot Meyer

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An American Affair - Mary Pinchot Meyer

Postby whipstitch » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:54 am

Just watched the movie "An American Affair".

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I thought it was quite well done and the acting was uniformly excellent. As I was watching, it quickly became obvious that it's loosely based on the Mary Pinochet Meyer story...

In the summer of 1954 the Meyers got new neighbours. John F. Kennedy and his wife Jackie Kennedy purchased Hickory Hill, a house several hundred yards from where the Meyers lived. Mary became good friends with Jackie and they went on walks together.

In November, 1954, Meyer replaced Thomas Braden as head of International Organizations Division. Meyer began spending a lot of time in Europe. One of Meyer's tasks was to supervise Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty, the United States government broadcasts to Eastern Europe. According to Nina Burleigh (A Very Private Woman) Meyer was "overseeing a vast 'black' budget of millions of dollars channeled through phony foundation of a global network of associations and labor groups that on their surface appeared to be progressive".

On 18th December, 1956, Mary's nine-year-old son, Michael, was hit by a car on the curve of highway near their house and killed. It was the same spot where the family's golden retriever had been killed two years earlier. The tragedy briefly brought the couple together. However, in 1958, Mary filed for divorce. In her divorce petition she alleged "extreme cruelty, mental in nature, which seriously injured her health, destroyed her happiness, rendered further cohabitation unendurable and compelled the parties to separate."

Mary continued to live with her two sons in the family home of Langley Commons. She took up art and her sister, Antoinette Pinchot and her husband Ben Bradlee, allowed her to set up a studio in their converted garage. Mary also began a relationship with the abstract artist, Kenneth Noland. Mary also got to know Robert Kennedy, who had moved in to his brother's house, Hickory Hill, after John F. Kennedy and Jackie Kennedy moved out in 1960.

According to Nina Burleigh (A Very Private Woman) James Angleton began bugging Mary's telephone and bedroom after she left Cord Meyer. This information came from an interview with Joan Bross, the wife of John Bross, a high-ranking CIA official. Angleton became a regular visitor to the family home and took Mary's sons fishing.

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JFK with Mary Meyer (far right). Antoinette Bradlee is second on the left.

In October 1961, Mary began visiting John F. Kennedy in the White House. It was about this time she began an affair with the president. Mary told her friends, Ann and James Truitt, that she was keeping a diary about the relationship.

In 1962 Mary made contact with Timothy Leary, the director of research projects at Harvard University. Leary supplied LSD to Mary who used it with Kennedy. Leary also claimed that Mary helped influence Kennedy's views on nuclear disarmament and rapprochement with Cuba. It was later discovered that the FBI was keeping a file on Mary. Later, James Angleton, head of counterintelligence at the CIA admitted that the agency was bugging Mary's telephone and bedroom during this period.

Kennedy aide, Meyer Feldman, claimed in an interview with Nina Burleigh that the president might have discussed substantial issues with her: "I think he might have thought more of her than some of the other women and discussed things that were on his mind, not just social gossip."

In January, 1963, Philip Graham, the publisher of the Washington Post, attended a convention of American newspaper editors in Phoenix. Graham, who was suffering from alcoholism, disclosed at the meeting that John F. Kennedy was having an affair with Mary Meyer. No newspaper reported this incident but Kennedy decided to bring an end to the affair. However, they continued to see each other at social functions.

According to his biography, Flashbacks (1983) Timothy Leary claims that Mary phoned him the day after Kennedy was assassinated: "They couldn't control him any more. He was changing too fast. He was learning too much... They'll cover everything up. I gotta come see you. I'm scared. I'm afraid."

In the summer of 1964 Meyer told friends that she believed someone had been inside her house while she was away. On another occasion she told Elizabeth Eisenstein that "she thought she had seen somebody leaving as she walked in". Mary reported these incidents to the police. Eisenstein said Mary was clearly frightened by these incidents.

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On 12th October, 1964, Mary Pinchot Meyer was shot dead as she walked along the Chesapeake and Ohio towpath in Georgetown. Henry Wiggins, a car mechanic, was working on a vehicle on Canal Road, when he heard a woman shout out: "Someone help me, someone help me". He then heard two gunshots. Wiggins ran to the edge of the wall overlooking the tow path. He later told police he saw "a black man in a light jacket, dark slacks, and a dark cap standing over the body of a white woman."

Mary appeared to be killed by a professional hitman. The first bullet was fired at the back of the head. She did not die straight away. A second shot was fired into the heart. The evidence suggests that in both cases, the gun was virtually touching Mary’s body when it was fired. As the FBI expert testified, the “dark haloes on the skin around both entry wounds suggested they had been fired at close-range, possibly point-blank”.

Soon afterwards Raymond Crump, a black man, was found not far from the murder scene. He was arrested and charged with Mary's murder. Police tests were unable to show that Crump had fired the .38 caliber Smith and Wesson gun. There were no trace of nitrates on his hands or clothes. Despite an extensive search of the area no gun could be found. This included a two day search of the tow path by 40 police officers. The police also drained the canal near to the murder scene. Police scuba divers searched the waters away from where Mary was killed. However, no gun could be found. Nor could the prosecution find any link between Crump and any Smith and Wesson gun.

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James Angleton, CIA counterintelligence chief, admitted that he knew of Mary's relationship with John F. Kennedy and was searching her home looking for her diary and any letters that would reveal details of the affair. According to Ben Bradlee, it was Mary's sister, Antoinette Bradlee, who found the diary and letters a few days later. It was claimed that the diary was in a metal box in Mary's studio. The contents of the box were given to Angleton who claimed he burnt the diary. Angleton later admitted that Mary recorded in her diary that she had taken LSD with Kennedy before "they made love".

Leo Damore claimed in an article that appeared in the New York Post that the reason Angleton and Bradlee were looking for the diary was that: "She (Meyer) had access to the highest levels. She was involved in illegal drug activity. What do you think it would do to the beatification of Kennedy if this woman said, 'It wasn't Camelot, it was Caligula's court'?" Damore also said that a figure close to the CIA had told him that Mary's death had been a professional "hit".

There is another possible reason why both Angleton and Bradlee were searching for documents in Meyer's house. Meyer had been married to Cord Meyer, a leading CIA operative involved in a variety of covert operations in the early 1950s. Were they worried that Meyer had kept a record of these activities? Was this why Mary Pinochet Meyer had been murdered?

After leaving the CIA in 1977 Cord Meyer wrote several books including an autobiography, Facing Reality: From World Federalism to the CIA. In the book Meyer commented on the murder of his wife: "I was satisfied by the conclusions of the police investigation that Mary had been the victim of a sexually motivated assault by a single individual and that she had been killed in her struggle to escape." Carol Delaney, the longtime personal assistant to Meyer, later admitted: "Mr. Meyer didn't for a minute think that Ray Crump had murdered his wife or that it had been an attempted rape. But, being an Agency man, he couldn't very well accuse the CIA of the crime, although the murder had all the markings of an in-house rubout."

In February, 2001, the writer, C. David Heymann, asked Cord Meyer about the death of Mary Pinchot Meyer: "My father died of a heart attack the same year Mary was killed, " he whispered. "It was a bad time." And what could he say about Mary Meyer? Who had committed such a heinous crime? "The same sons of bitches," he hissed, "that killed John F. Kennedy."
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:10 am

Anything to keep the meme 'Democrat=illicit sex' front and center to stoke the GOP base of repressed neurotic haters.

I think it likely that Chandra Levy was murdered to cast this meme shadow on Gary Condit. Because of another Condit. See 'Jim Condit Jr.' and 'election fraud.'

And the CIA WPost revived this story in a recent 12-part series centered on Chandra's body oddly found in Rock Creek Park (see 'William Colby's body found right where searchers had already looked')...when an indie paper called the Rock Creek Free Press started running dangerous stories about 9/11, CIA media, vaccines, etc.

There's lots of history behind the movie about Mary Pinchot Meyer, a whole new context.
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Postby whipstitch » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:17 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Anything to keep the meme 'Democrat=illicit sex' front and center to stoke the GOP base of repressed neurotic haters.


I'm so sorry to hear you feel this way
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Postby nathan28 » Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:33 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Anything to keep the meme 'Democrat=illicit sex' front and center to stoke the GOP base of repressed neurotic haters.

I think it likely that Chandra Levy was murdered to cast this meme shadow on Gary Condit. Because of another Condit. See 'Jim Condit Jr.' and 'election fraud.'

And the CIA WPost revived this story in a recent 12-part series centered on Chandra's body oddly found in Rock Creek Park (see 'William Colby's body found right where searchers had already looked')...when an indie paper called the Rock Creek Free Press started running dangerous stories about 9/11, CIA media, vaccines, etc.

There's lots of history behind the movie about Mary Pinchot Meyer, a whole new context.


I'm with HMWs here, sadly, though I'll temper it to say that the Meyer angle isn't being used as an one-off scare tactic so much as a chronic inflammation. There's some suggestion that Tim Leary made up his own version of the JFK-Meyer out of whole cloth and passed it off successfully; then there is E. Howard Hunt's deathbed "confession" about Cord Meyer that makes it all a bit suspect. I even think, sort-of, that HMWs is right about the Rock Creek Press getting squeezed. I think the waters here are too polluted to drink, sadly.
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Postby whipstitch » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:03 pm

I fear this board has become a monoculture. Death cannot be far off.
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Postby MinM » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:41 pm

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Postby Nordic » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:44 pm

whipstitch wrote:I fear this board has become a monoculture. Death cannot be far off.


Well I think it's a really interesting story and I'm glad you posted it. I hadn't heard of this story whatsoever.

The bodies sure were falling during this time, weren't they?

It seems that is when the full coup occurred, the coup whereby The Powers That Be Who Rule Everything Now took over completely.

Seems as though prior to that they were struggling titanically to get control, then during the decade of the 60's they took over completely.

It's been a shadow dictatorship of sorts ever since. By whom? Well, it's a bit murky, isn't it ... Which is a big part of their success.
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Postby nathan28 » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:54 pm

whipstitch wrote:I fear this board has become a monoculture. Death cannot be far off.


oh cut it out. that "someone disagreed with me so my viewpoint is persecuted" shit belongs back in on AM radio.

streeb wrote:Meyer has been sexed up because of his murdered wife, who was said by Timothy Leary to have psychedelicized the doomed Prez and then died for her troubles. A story which Jim DiEugenio is at pains to debunk at every turn, and rightly so (I think), basically claiming that Leary spun the story out of whole cloth sometime in the 80s when it was useful for him to do such a thing.


http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=24297&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=105

OMG, Jim DiEugenio disagrees, too, and he's not even on the board!


Well I think it's a really interesting story and I'm glad you posted it. I hadn't heard of this story whatsoever.

The bodies sure were falling during this time, weren't they?

It seems that is when the full coup occurred, the coup whereby The Powers That Be Who Rule Everything Now took over completely.

Seems as though prior to that they were struggling titanically to get control, then during the decade of the 60's they took over completely.

It's been a shadow dictatorship of sorts ever since. By whom? Well, it's a bit murky, isn't it ... Which is a big part of their success.


Whoa, total monoculture.

it's fucking Hollywood. It isn't real to start with. Sorry I don't believe in disinformation and want to highlight it, but I spent a long-ass time being a true believer and it is mostly a dead end. You all act like someone pooped in your corn flakes whenever anyone suggests that, gee, it's almost like the material is suspect to start.


http://forums.terra.com/foros/celebrities/Celebrities_C36/Celebrities_F235/Howard_Hunt_exposes_the_truth_about_Kennedy_assassination._P675469/

http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/article/id1415/pg1/
http://books.google.com/books?id=OA0X3ixhqlsC&pg=PA315&lpg=PA315&dq=disinfo.com+mary+meyer&source=bl&ots=Yt2h0kDBlA&sig=SWAmmKfl8TLfmvtUGO2_oe9X1RA&hl=en&ei=5f1lStGbBofYNob2kJIB&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=3541
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Postby whipstitch » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:30 pm

MinM wrote:Where did you catch that at, whipstitch?

The last I checked it was coming out on dvd, July 28...



It's all over the bittorrent sites (DVD quality).
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Postby MinM » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:32 pm

Thanks. :thumbsup001:
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Postby whipstitch » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:46 pm

Nordic wrote:Well I think it's a really interesting story and I'm glad you posted it. I hadn't heard of this story whatsoever.


You're welcome. I only know about it from reading Timothy Leary's first autobiography which prompted me to find out more about it. That website I linked to had more information than I've seen previously. I'd like to find the source for this...

Angleton later admitted that Mary recorded in her diary that she had taken LSD with Kennedy before "they made love".


nathan28 wrote:oh cut it out. that "someone disagreed with me so my viewpoint is persecuted" shit belongs back in on AM radio.

You all act like someone pooped in your corn flakes whenever anyone suggests that, gee, it's almost like the material is suspect to start.


Having a bad day Nathan? Who disagreed with what?

This movie is not being promoted as historical fact or fictionalized fact anywhere that I've seen. The Meyer-Leary story is very obscure but it rang some bells for me and I just thought that researchers on this board might find the movie entertaining.

As far as Johnny One-note's suggestion that this movie is disinfo... could a movie (ad, article, review, video, rumor, picture, website, etc) be anything else in his reality tunnel?

The monoculture comment refers to the fact that disinfo spotting/hallucinating is the number one pass-time on this board and I can remember a time when there was a greater diversity of discussion here.
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Postby whipstitch » Tue Jul 21, 2009 3:51 pm



Thanks for the heads up on that book. I hadn't heard anything about it. Hasn't been released yet apparently.

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Challenging the conventional wisdom surrounding the murder of Mary Pinchot Meyer, this exposé offers new information and evidence that individuals within the upper echelons of the CIA were not only involved in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, but Meyer's demise as well. Written by the son of a CIA lifer whose mother was a college classmate of Meyer, this insider’s story examines how Mary Meyer used events and circumstances in her personal life to become an acolyte for world peace. The most famous convert to her philosophy was reportedly President John F. Kennedy, with whom she was said to have begun a serious love relationship in January 1962.

Offering an insightful look into the era and its culture, the narrative—based on the author’s research as well as having followed the story for over 30 years—sheds light on how in the wake of the Cuban Missile Crisis, Mary Meyer helped her lover the president realize that the Cold War mentality was a "dead end street," and that the province of world peace was the only worthwhile calling. New details on her experiences with LSD and Timothy Leary, her murder trial in 1965, and her impact on Kennedy's thinking and his political evolution during the last six months of his life, including his behind the scenes negotiation with Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev for a limited nuclear test ban treaty, as well as his pursuit of a secret rapprochement with Fidel Castro, are also a part of the author's purview. Using never before published evidence and interviews, the final chapters reveal the "how" and "why" Meyer’s murder (assassination) was orchestrated and then covered up.
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Postby nathan28 » Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:39 pm

whipstitch wrote:Having a bad day Nathan?...

The monoculture comment refers to the fact that disinfo spotting/hallucinating is the number one pass-time on this board and I can remember a time when there was a greater diversity of discussion here.


Actually yes, but bank tellers who don't know the actual Know Your Customer rules and almost getting hit on a bicycle by SUVs will do that to you. Also I made the mistake of reading Cowbell's posts again.

Anyway sorry to get aggro. I wasted so much time with disinformation of all stripes that it is a sore spot.

I think I'm going to suspend myself for two weeks now.
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Postby FreeLancer » Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:22 pm

Great post Whipstich. Ignore the regular and predictable post hijackers-- stay focused on the thrust of your original post. MPM is a VERY important figure in the JFK story. Thanks for the heads up on the flick.
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Postby whipstitch » Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:56 pm

nathan28 wrote:Anyway sorry to get aggro. I wasted so much time with disinformation of all stripes that it is a sore spot.


Not a problem. Sorry you're having a bad day. I've had a few of those lately!

FreeLancer wrote:Thanks for the heads up on the flick.


Sure thing!
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