An American Affair - Mary Pinchot Meyer

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Postby LilyPatToo » Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:48 pm

When I went to Amazon to put Mary's Mosaic onto my Wish List (and hopefully score a lower-priced used copy in a few weeks/months), I found the book on Mary Pinchot Meyer mentioned above by whipstitch, called A Very Private Woman: The Life and Unsolved Murder of Presidential Mistress Mary Meyer by Nina Burleigh. Ordered a used copy for $3.00.

I was looking forward to the Gretchen Mol movie until I read the review that's linked to above. Guess I'll rent it anyway though, when it hits Netflix--I like Mol and the subject matter interests me.

And a mild possible synchronicity may have struck yesterday evening, when I opened a magazine to a random page and found myself looking at a review of a new novel called American Adulterer by Jed Mercurio. No idea if Mary Meyer is included in the parade of mistresses in this one, but it's interesting that the author (an MD) looks at Kennedy's behavior from the standpoint of his physical disabilities and chronic pain. The fact that Mary Meyer brought psychedelic drugs--that may have allowed him escape from his pain--to their trysts might garner her a mention.

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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:04 pm

This bullshit version of history has an agenda.

Ya think it's a coincidence that this anti-Dem political sex hype premiered Feb. 27, 2009 right when Obama unveiled the budget and the CIA media was screaming it was a desecration of Reagan's corpse?

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/27 ... t-assess27
Obama's budget is the end of an era
NEWS ANALYSIS
The president's ambitious proposal breaks with the conservative principles that have ruled national politics since Reagan.

By Janet Hook
February 27, 2009

Reporting from Washington — Not since Lyndon B. Johnson and Franklin D. Roosevelt has a president moved to expand the role of government so much on so many fronts -- and with such a demanding sense of urgency.

The scope of President Obama's ambition was laid bare in the budget blueprint issued Thursday.


Do look at the actual movie, not just Mary Meyer.

Screeplay: Alex Metcalf-
http://cinema.usc.edu/faculty/alex-metcalf.htm

> Metcalf teaches at USC School of Cinematic Arts (spook farm camp) and has written other JFK disinfo scripts for television during the AARB 1990s (The Lazarus Man)-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lazarus_Man

> Metcalf is a Paramount Pictures Fellow.
Paramount is a CIA movie factory since atleast 1953-
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... hp?t=12707

Distributor: Screen Media Films. Lots of psyops films.
But you have to actually know how psyops works.
Hardly anyone does-

http://www.screenmedia.net/

Now let's look at the disdainful review at the best investigative website for assassination history to see how the NAME GAME is used for SEMANTIC PRIMING decoys confuse-a-tainment on this crap psyops movie.

This link was included in a previous post-
http://www.ctka.net/2009/american_affair.html

>snip<

This is one of those films that is not "based upon" a true story, but is "inspired by" actual characters and events. So although the main character is Mary Meyer, her name in the film is Catherine Caswell. (Get it? MM becomes CC.) Her estranged husband Cord Meyer also appears, except his first name is Graham.


Um, "Catherine" + "Graham"...?
That's Katherine Graham, the center of CIA media's Operation Mockingbird as famously exposed by Deborah Davis in her 1979 book that got suppressed, 'Katherine the Great.'

James Angleton is titled Lucian Carver.

Um, "Lucian Carver"...as a CIA honcho?
That's infamous CIA assassin photographed in Dealey Plaza, Lucien Conein.
He and other members of the CIA's Operation Mongoose team were seen in Dealey Plaza and are suspected of a more notorious murder than Mary Meyer's, the actual president himself. What a coincidence!
They didn't have much of a choice with President Kennedy, so his name is the same.

Since the point is to focus on his penis, not on his murder.

And that's the reason to tell the story through the eyes of a horny teenage male, "Adam Stafford."

But how about that name?
"Adam" evokes 'beginning.' Also 'male corrupted by woman.'
"Stafford" evokes 'staff' and 'Ford.'

And that's the double meaning.
Was it JFK's elite staff of mil-intel who did him in or a dame? Duh.

As newbies hit the internet, especially youth, they can be misdirected into thinking that the controversial murder is Mary Meyer, not JFK himself.
Misdirection accomplished.

But the odd thing about the script is that none of these people features as the real main character. The protagonist—Adam Stafford—is a boy in what appears to be about the ninth grade. The film begins with him and it ends with him. The Meyer story is largely told through his eyes. And this is a problem I had with the film. Everything outside the Meyer story, and even a lot within the Meyer/Stafford story, seemed to me to be pretty much banal. It was essentially the teen Coming of Age Tale. And his coming of age is hurried along and impacted by his affection for and experience with the older woman across the way. This concept was not new in the film Summer of '42. And that picture is nearly four decades old now. And like that film, when all is said and done, this picture does not really comment on the time frame it is based in. It more or less exploits it.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:07 pm

LilyPatToo wrote:.....
And a mild possible synchronicity may have struck yesterday evening, when I opened a magazine to a random page and found myself looking at a review of a new novel called American Adulterer by Jed Mercurio.
.....

No coincidence.

Since the GOP is devastated and needs to be stoked up, this will be done with sex since this culture war wedge issue works so well.

There's no sex scandal to hang on Obama but, since he's a Democrat, the sexual identities of Bill Clinton, JFK, and progressive attitudes towards homosexuality visible as Pelosi from Sodom and Gomorrah (San Francisco)...will be triggered as much as possible.
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Postby marshwren » Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:52 pm

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:No coincidence.

Since the GOP is devastated and needs to be stoked up, this will be done with sex since this culture war wedge issue works so well.


Not any more, it doesn't. The culture wars are history--we, the people, have been winning them in the long run, from the bottom up, on issue after issue; while the GOP was just cramming repressive/regressive legislation down the throats of a nation that couldn't vomit it back in their faces fast enough. Now, it seems, they can't even win legislative fights anymore either (not that the Dims are doing U.S. any favors).

The culture-war dead-enders are reduced to whack-jobs screaming about birth certificates, death-camp socialised medicine, stabbing the Pentagon in the back (with higher budgets--what a novel approach!), and other irrelevancies. And as the conservative movement devolves deeper into a creepy, old-Confederacy-based fetish cult involving guns, god, gays, fetuses and the flag, the more GOPs will be bailing on that Roman-circus galley furiously rowing towards the nearest iceberg...

on edit: does anyone know the relationship (if any) of Mary Pinchot to THE Pinchot family (TR's Sec. of the Interior was Gifford P., who established the national park/reserve system)? Visited the family mansion on the upper Delaware R., decades ago, quite impressive...
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Postby whipstitch » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:17 am

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Since the GOP is devastated and needs to be stoked up, this will be done with sex since this culture war wedge issue works so well.


All this work to repaint JFK as a sex addict? I don't know a single person who doesn't already accept that as historical fact.

I stopped believing we had a two party system long ago, so your premise (CIA works for the GOP) seems very naive to me. As far as I can see DEM and REP are the just serving the same meal with different spices.

Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:And that's the double meaning.
Was it JFK's elite staff of mil-intel who did him in or a dame? Duh.

As newbies hit the internet, especially youth, they can be misdirected into thinking that the controversial murder is Mary Meyer, not JFK himself.
Misdirection accomplished.


Huh? I think you need to actually watch the movie before theorizing about it's misdirections. Your argument here makes no sense in relation to the actual movie.

You might find this NY Times Review of the movie interesting in that it never mentions anything about the Meyer connection or even JFK - they really missed the boat on promoting any of your suggested memes.
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Postby whipstitch » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:25 am

marshwren wrote: does anyone know the relationship (if any) of Mary Pinchot to THE Pinchot family (TR's Sec. of the Interior was Gifford P., who established the national park/reserve system)? Visited the family mansion on the upper Delaware R., decades ago, quite impressive...


Found this here...

Aficionados of theories about the Kennedy Assassination may be interested in the fact that Gifford Pinchot's niece, Mary Pinchot Meyer, was John F. Kennedy's mistress. They traveled together to Milford in September, 1963, when President Kennedy accepted the Pinchot family home as a gift to the Forestry Service and was the main speaker at the dedication ceremonies. Orville Freeman, former governor of Minnesota, was then U.S. Secretary of Agriculture, who oversaw the Forestry service.

and this on wikipedia...

Mary Pinchot was the daughter of Amos Pinchot, a wealthy lawyer and a founder of the Progressive party who had helped fund the socialist magazine The Masses. Her mother was Pinchot's second wife Ruth, a journalist who worked for magazines such as The Nation and The New Republic. Mary was raised at the family's Grey Towers home in Milford, Pennsylvania where as a child she met left-wing intellectuals such as Mabel Dodge, Louis Brandeis, Robert M. La Follette, Sr. and Harold L. Ickes. Mary attended Brearley School and Vassar College, where she became interested in communism. She dated William Attwood in 1938 and while with him at a dance held at Choate Rosemary Hall she first met John F. Kennedy.

She left Vassar and became a journalist, writing for the United Press and Mademoiselle. As a pacifist and member of the American Labor Party she came under scrutiny by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
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Postby barracuda » Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:33 am

whipstitch wrote:All this work to repaint JFK as a sex addict? I don't know a single person who doesn't already accept that as historical fact.


I guess the smear worked it's magic well, then. I for one find it exceedingly difficult to view JFK as a sex addict. He seems like a man with rather average sexual inclinations for one with huge sources of money and power at his disposal.
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Jul 23, 2009 1:23 am

With the internet making real information available it is even more important to sustain disinfo memes and discrediting memes.

New people are coming online everyday and looking around. And people can even *gasp* change their viewpoints.

So whipstich's comment-
All this work to repaint JFK as a sex addict? I don't know a single person who doesn't already accept that as historical fact.

-makes no sense in a world that is not static.

Remember 2/27/09? Obama's budget speech? CONTEXT!'
Jeez, what does it take to apply context and strategy to events at RI?

Plus a JFK disinformationist named Dale Myers has been exposed recently at ctka.net in relation to high-visibility CIA disinfoteer, Vincent Bugliosi, and with a dangerous catch phrase, "Myers Motion."

You can't have derisive catch phrases like "Myers Motion" circulating unchallenged in psyops culture.

And here's also where the idea for a 13 year-old ("puerile") point of view came from, too-

http://www.ctka.net/2008/bugliosi_myers.html
Dale Myers Gets Perturbed!
By James DiEugenio

A longer response than Dave Von Pein's to part one of my review of Reclaiming History was by, well, what shall we call him? Co-author? Writing assistant? Ghostwriter? Whatever term you prefer, it was, predictably, by Dale Myers.

>snip<

So Myers has to alchemize that frame into something it is not. And [Milicent Cranor] shows how: Myers changes Kennedy's facial expression and also alters the position of his hands to transform his demeanor from one of grimacing pain to relative serenity. Therefore preserving the single bullet theory. So we now have a new type of cinematic technique. Let's call it Myers Motion.
.....
Myers, in his usual puerile, radio commentator way (which he used to be), says that I am jealous of him because he got on national TV and I did not.
>snip<

That's a fourth reason for this crap movie by a USC film school teacher who had already written a JFK decoy script during the 1990s when the Assassinations Records Review Board was in gear.

1) Counter Dem Obama's budget speech 2/27/09
2) Smear JFK as a hound and his girlfriend as a cradle-robber
3) Displace JFK's murder with the deaths of two women in his life
4) Displace the exposure of a "puerile" disinfoteer named Myers.

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Postby whipstitch » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:13 am

barracuda wrote:
whipstitch wrote:All this work to repaint JFK as a sex addict? I don't know a single person who doesn't already accept that as historical fact.


I guess the smear worked it's magic well, then. I for one find it exceedingly difficult to view JFK as a sex addict. He seems like a man with rather average sexual inclinations for one with huge sources of money and power at his disposal.


I don't think everyone takes that as a smear. Here's what someone posted on a thread about this movie on another forum I posted to...

Banging chicks on acid... will there be a cooler Prez than JFK?

I think not.
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Postby H_C_E » Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:52 pm

The monoculture comment refers to the fact that disinfo spotting/hallucinating is the number one pass-time on this board and I can remember a time when there was a greater diversity of discussion here.


Amen to all that. Between that and Manatee crapping all over every discussion with his one-trick pony routine I'm putting myself on permanent
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And Jeff, I hope you don't mind watching Manatee slowly destroy your forums here.

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Postby barracuda » Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:03 am

I for one will miss your pants at the very least. The terrorists have won.
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Postby RomanyX » Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:39 pm

H_C_E wrote:
The monoculture comment refers to the fact that disinfo spotting/hallucinating is the number one pass-time on this board and I can remember a time when there was a greater diversity of discussion here.


Amen to all that. Between that and Manatee crapping all over every discussion with his one-trick pony routine I'm putting myself on permanent
suspension. Much to the delight of many here, I'm sure. And unlike EiAE
I won't be back, nor will I check the responses to this last post of mine.

And Jeff, I hope you don't mind watching Manatee slowly destroy your forums here.

So long and thanks for all the fish!

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Postby MinM » Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:38 pm

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Hugh Manatee Wins wrote:Anything to keep the meme 'Democrat=illicit sex' front and center to stoke the GOP base of repressed neurotic haters.

I think it likely that Chandra Levy was murdered to cast this meme shadow on Gary Condit. Because of another Condit. See 'Jim Condit Jr.' and 'election fraud.'

And the CIA WPost revived this story in a recent 12-part series centered on Chandra's body oddly found in Rock Creek Park (see 'William Colby's body found right where searchers had already looked')...when an indie paper called the Rock Creek Free Press started running dangerous stories about 9/11, CIA media, vaccines, etc.

There's lots of history behind the movie about Mary Pinchot Meyer, a whole new context.

I'm with HMWs here, sadly, though I'll temper it to say that the Meyer angle isn't being used as an one-off scare tactic so much as a chronic inflammation. There's some suggestion that Tim Leary made up his own version of the JFK-Meyer out of whole cloth and passed it off successfully; then there is E. Howard Hunt's deathbed "confession" about Cord Meyer that makes it all a bit suspect. I even think, sort-of, that HMWs is right about the Rock Creek Press getting squeezed. I think the waters here are too polluted to drink, sadly.

Having finally watched this movie, I'll have to Second, Hugh and nathan. :thumbsup001:

Hugh may have even understated his case. :shock:

Certainly it carries on the tradition of dis/misinformation in the movies. Which has been exemplified recently by the Orwellian titled Nothing But the Truth (2008):

rigorousintuition.ca :: View topic - KWHing gets even more convuluted

and State of Play (2009):

rigorousintuition.ca :: View topic - Just Saw Nic Cage's "Knowing" film...Talk About RI

rigorousintuition.ca :: View topic - The ULTIMATE keyword hijack, BCCI



Sounds like a good time to get Stone'd:
rigorousintuition.ca :: View topic - JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why it Matters :popcorn:
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Postby MinM » Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:27 am

***Spoiler Alert*** Here are some specific issues I had with the film:

The overall tone of the picture is sullen and depressing. It paints the implied JFK inner circle as narcissistic and generally incompetent, and by extension, JFK and his Administration. But have no fear, Lucian Carver (James "I was not privy to who struck John." Angleton), offers JFK a lifeline. Lucian implores Catherine Caswell (MPM) throughout the movie to get Kennedy to talk to the CIA. After all, how can the CIA save JFK from himself, if he won't talk to them?

Another, more subtle, issue I had with the film was the way it was told. From the trailer it was apparent that William Olsson was using this teenage boy as a device to tell the sordid story in this hit piece. Ironically, or perhaps not so ironically, the kid is portrayed and looks very much like Johnny Gosch.

Here's the last example I'll get into now of how this piece of psynematic crap distorts history and attempts to diminish Kennedy's legacy. At least twice it invokes the myth about the "Ich bin ein Berliner" speech, including a climactic scene in the film. No doubt about the impression the filmmakers wanted to leave regarding President Kennedy's historic speech at the Berlin Wall on June 26, 1963.

The worst part is the missed opportunity this film represents. Instead of a slow, depressing, mind-addling story of cardboard cut-out characters, it could have been great if they had actually bothered to develop the Mary Meyer, Cord Meyer, and James Angleton characters, with just some of their real life exploits. Or if they would have given the story any type of context. Instead of obvious attempts to smear JFK with the urban legend surrounding the Berlin speech, how about the American University speech? Or even the lesser known speeches he gave in Ireland, following the speech in Berlin.
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