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Postby seemslikeadream » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:15 pm

Ex-FBI Translator Tests Justice Dept. Again

By Jeff Stein | August 4, 2009

Sibel Edmonds may never get her day in court - or at least the kind she wants.

The former FBI translator has spent seven years trying to get a court to hear her allegations that foreign agents, in particular Turkish intelligence, had penetrated her unit, the State Department, the Pentagon and Congress.

This weekend she's going to try again.


Edmonds, a multilingual Iranian raised partly in Turkey who graduated from college in the U.S., was fired by the FBI in 2002 after lodging complaints of incompetence and corruption in the translation unit.

Although the Justice Department's Office of the Inspector General would eventually validate her complaints, in 2002 Attorney General John D. Ashcroft threw a cloak of secrecy over the entire affair via the so-called state secrets privilege, effectively smothering Edmonds's whistleblower suit against the FBI.

In 2004, the government won another gag order against her when U.S. District Court judge Reggie B. Walton ruled that Edmonds could not answer questions about her FBI allegations in a suit by families of 9/11 victims against the Saudi government.

This week, Edmonds was scheduled to give a deposition regarding Turkish intelligence activities in an arcane congressional election dispute in Ohio.

Rep. Jean Schmidt, R-Ohio, had filed a complaint with the Ohio Board of Elections contending that a rival candidate in 2008 had slandered her with a charge that she took campaign cash from Turkish interests - "blood money," he called it - to vote against a congressional resolution blaming Ankara for the "genocide" of 1.5 million Armenians during the First World War.

The candidate, David Krikorian, who ran against Schmidt as an Independent but wants to challenge her again in 2010 as a Democrat, planned to take a deposition from Edmonds on Saturday, Aug. 8.

On Monday, Edmonds notified the Justice Department of what she planned to tell Krikorian:


"How certain Turkish entities had illegally infiltrated and influenced various U.S. government agencies and officials, including but not limited to the Department of State, the Department of Defense and individual members of the United States Congress."


She and her attorneys gave the government "until the end of the day to respond," she said, "however, we received no response."

They gave the Justice Department another deadline -- until noon today, to respond.

No answer.

Edmonds says that without a red light, she plans to go ahead now and spill the beans.

"Yes, I will provide a deposition unless DOJ officially bars me from doing so," she said by e-mail Tuesday evening.

She invited "the public/media" to attend.

A senior Justice Department official dismissed Edmonds's maneuver as theatrics.

Edmonds's nondisclosure agreement (NDA) with the FBI requires her to give the bureau 30 days advance notice of her desire to speak about issues related to her employment, the official said.

"State Secrets is not on the table here," said the official, demanding anonymity in exchange for discussing the issue. "This just about her NDA, period."

The official declined to predict how the Attorney General will respond to Edmonds's demand for an immediate answer - if at all -- or what action the Justice Department might take if she violates the agreement.

Edmonds said she has no control over when a party wants to depose her.



Whistleblower Asked to Testify in Ohio Genocide Denial Case


By Asbarez Staff on Aug 4th, 2009 and filed under Armenia,

WASHINGTON—Attorneys for FBI whistleblower Sibel D. Edmonds have requested that Attorney General Holder review the state secrets privilege invoked in her case and reverse the decision made under former President Bush. This will free her to testify on behalf of Democratic Congressional candidate David Krikorian, in connection with a complaint initiated by Genocide denier Rep. Jean Schmidt before the Ohio Elections Commission

Edmonds was illegally fired from the FBI due to her protected disclosures. An independent investigation by the Department of Justice Office of Inspector General confirmed the serious misconduct committed by the FBI and the illegality of her termination. On or about October 18, 2002 the previous administration invoked the state secrets privilege in order to have Ms. Edmonds’s whistleblower/First Amendment claims dismissed and to protect the government from embarrassment.

Edmonds has now been requested to provide sworn deposition and affidavit testimony in a case pending before the Ohio Elections Commission in the Schmidt v. Krikorian case. This case raises nationally significant issues of electoral fraud and violation of law. The state secrets privilege has stifled Ms. Edmonds for the past seven years, and this deposition will be the first time that she will put her knowledge on the record.

Schmidt has brought charges against her likely Democratic opponent in the 2010 election for what she claims are false statements made by Krikorian in connection with Schmidt’s vocal opposition to Congressional measures to commemorate the Armenian Genocide. During the last election cycle, Schmidt received more than $30,000 in contributions from individuals and political action committees advancing the Turkish government’s position to deny the fact of the Armenian Genocide and oppose Congressional measures to commemorate what is widely acknowledged as the first Genocide of the twentieth century. The trial on Schmidt’s charges is scheduled for August 13 before the Ohio Elections Commission.

Since her election to Congress, Jean Schmidt has become an active and vocal apologist for the Turkish government’s position on the Armenian Genocide and has solicited and received tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from Turkish Americans and affiliated political action committees. David Krikorian has been working to expose the connection between Schmidt’s actions as a Member of Congress and her political contributions.

“Jean Schmidt’s active participation in the Turkish Government’s campaign to deny and cover up this internationally recognized crime against humanity is well documented and readily traceable” said said Mark Geragos who will serve as the lead attorney on the case.

“Schmidt’s mertiless complaint against David is yet another attempt by the Turkish Government and its apologists to intimidate those with the audacity to speak the truth about this ongoing human right violation. David Krikorian understands that the Turkish Government’s attempt to suppress the truth about the most heinous crime known to humankind transcends the interests of Armenian Americans and is a cause for concern to all those of good conscience. David is a man of principle and despite Schmidt’s specious allegations, remains undeterred in his resolve to bring this important human rights issue to light,” added Geragos.

Given the pendency of this case and the request for her testimony, the National Whistleblowers Legal Defense and Education Fund requested that the Attorney General immediately and independently review the basis upon which that privilege was initially invoked, and formally and in writing withdraw that privilege. At the time of this release, two separate deadlines for the Department of Justice to respond to the attorney’s letter had passed, and consequently the deposition has been scheduled for Saturday. Although a request was hand delivered to the Department of Justice, the Attorney General’s office informed counsel that they were having difficulty locating it.

According to Stephen M. Kohn, the Executive Director of the National Whistleblowers Center and one of Ms. Edmonds’s attorneys, “The Obama administration must take a fresh look at how the state secrets privilege was improperly used to hide government misconduct from the public view. The Edmonds case was the first case the ‘privilege’ was invoked, and it must be the first case the ‘privilege’ is revoked. The government’s misguided attempt to cover up wrongdoing by abusing the state secrets privilege to bully a whistleblower must end. Ms. Edmonds has been requested to provide testimony in court. She will do so unless the government again invokes the privilege to quash her First Amendment rights.”

Edmonds’s deposition is scheduled for Saturday, August 8, at 10:30am. It will be held at the National Whistleblowers Center at 3238 P. St. NW, Washington, DC. The event is open to the press.
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Postby StarmanSkye » Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:35 pm

Hats off to Edmonds for being a persistent infuriating pain-in-the-ass to the pretend-government, and Shame on Schmidt for being such an odious apparant sell-out. Why else would she refuse to acknowledge the Turkish fact of Armenian genocide? And Shame the Hell out of Congress for ignoring this issue of Turkish influence and agent-infiltration and the so-called Justice Dept. under Ashcroft's underhanded cover-up by using State Secrets.

Glad to see Edmonds isn't just going-away. Maybe with another 100 people of courage and integrity and tenacity like her we wouldn't be under such outrageous fraud and misrule and corruption throughout what passes for US government today.

Edit to add: 5-part Brad Freedman sitting in for Mike Malloy, interview of Edmonds: Ungagged
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ZXWVoHJFU

Some highlights:

Part 2: Speaker of Hastert accused of Bribes re: Turkey, eventually resigned and now works for Turkish lobbying firm. Vanity Fair reported with 3X fact-checking, but US Media ignored it. Front page story in EVERY Turkish newspaper, TV and Radio including Turkish CNN; Bought and paid for corrupt media strikes again!

Part 3: Major DEA whistleblowing by Senior Executive Officers gave story of corruption with extensive supporting documentation to Time, the story was blocked. LA Times sat on NSA Whistleblowing story for some 7 months. etc. Business of War drives global conflict.

Part 4:Acknowledges enormous concerted cover-up of information re: 911, systematic gov. lies that mainstream media isn't reporting, continued relations and duplicity in Central Asia until 911 that have been classified and hidden.

Part 5: More than 150 members of Edmond's Whistleblower Protection association, from DEA, NSA, FBI, CIA etc.
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Postby elfismiles » Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:33 pm

FBI Whistleblower Sibel Edmonds Subpoenaed, Set to 'Break' Gag Order Unless DoJ Intercedes
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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:17 am

UPDATE 8/6/09: Just heard from Edmonds who, in turn, has just heard from attorneys working on the case that they have been informed that Ohio Election Commission (OEC) regulations disallow media from attending depositions. So, despite Krikorian's press release yesterday stating that her testimony would be "open to the media" (presuming it's not blocked by the DoJ) it will not in fact be open to them now.

However, Edmonds tells us that Krikorian's team will have their own videographer there to record it, and that tape is allowed to be released immediately after the proceeding. As well, court transcript should be available within 24 to 48 hours after the deposition.

Moreover, immediately following the deposition, attorneys from both sides will be able to speak to the media and answer any questions about it outside of the deposition room. If any media bother to cover it, that is.

(National Whistleblower Center's update on this matter is now posted here.)

Edmonds still believes it's likely that a last minute intervention by the DoJ, to block all or part of her testimony, will occur. As founder of the National Security Whistleblower's Coalition (NSWBC) she relates that she's seen a number of cases in which official whistleblower testimony is blocked at the last minute by DoJ attorneys who arrive with court orders just minutes beforehand, leaving no time for the opposition to challenge the ruling.

Though we'd planned to be on the road this Saturday, we'll do our best to stay in touch as things move forward if at all possible.






http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7341


Ms. Edmonds is prepared to testify this Saturday in an open to the media deposition in Washington DC that during the time she was employed by the FBI she obtained evidence that:

1. The Government of Turkey had illegally infiltrated and influenced various U.S. government institutions and officials, including the Department of State, the Department of Defense and individual members of the United States Congress

2. The Government of Turkey had engaged in practices and policies that were inimical to American interests and had in fact resulted in both the direct and indirect loss of American lives

3. Turkish American cultural and business groups conduct operations with direct and indirect support from the Government of Turkey
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Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:30 am

google is blocking Sibel's website she hasn't been able to post since last night.


Brad Blog says he wouldn't be surprised if Jean Schmidt drops the case.

Mike Malloy
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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:17 am

seemslikeadream wrote:google is blocking Sibel's website she hasn't been able to post since last night.

.....

Remember when the exact same thing happened to Jeff Wells?

Right after Jeff posted at DemocraticUnderground.com about the two Brit soldiers caught doing false-flag attacks in Arab garb...he couldn't update his blog and had to change servers.
(This made me realize Jeff couldn't be working for CIA or MI6.
Just Canadian intel.
:P )

I had a similar experience after being published at Alex Constantine's blog.
Everytime I tried to log into Goo-gull's blogspot system my browser crashed.

Someone just posted here that this was happening to them at Australian websites. There's a blacklisting system being used online, no doubt.
CIA runs mainstream media since WWII:
news rooms, movies/TV, publishing
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Postby orz » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:09 pm

seemslikeadream wrote:google is blocking Sibel's website she hasn't been able to post since last night.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8189162.stm
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Postby cptmarginal » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:30 pm

Bradblog is live-blogging the deposition:

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7347

8:40am PT (11:40am ET): During a break, Edmonds and the attorneys stepped outside.

DoJ still a no-show, so the questioning has proceeded, and Edmonds has been able to say "everything that she hasn't been able to say so far, implicating many members of Congress in a criminal conspiracy," according to interviews with Fein and others.

Edmonds' attorney, Michael Kohn said: "The Justice Department decided not to show. Therefore, the deposition has gone much more smoothly than we had anticipated."

Edmonds told me in a brief phone conversation during the break: "Bruce Fein is raising objections to everything", though that's to be expected. She said she's been asked, and has answered, questions on Dan Burton (R-IN), Dennis Hastert (R-IL), Stephen Solarz (D-NY), and other questions on those high-ranking officials and lobbyists in her "State Secrets Gallery".

She added that "somebody said the FBI was given the wrong time, for 11:30 instead of 10:30", though she didn't see how that could be, given that the time for the start of the deposition has been well publicized. In any case, it's now 11:45am ET, so we'll see if they showed up during this break. They have now gone back into session...

9:41am PT (12:41pm ET): Another break...Edmonds still being questioned under direct. Fein believes his questioning cross-examination will last two hours or so once he begins. They are now breaking for lunch. DoJ/FBI still did not show up.

The deposition is being videotaped and Edmonds hopes that it can be released as soon as possible after the deposition, though there has been some objections about releasing the video tape...

10:09am PT (1:09pm ET): Wow... just had lengthy conversation with Krikorian about Edmonds' testimony. Just wow... coming momentarily...


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10:09am PT (1:09pm ET): Wow... just had lengthy conversation with Krikorian about Edmonds' testimony. Just wow... coming momentarily...

Spoke to Edmonds, who says she's "tired, gotta put some sugar into her system", but that she's satisfied with what's being put on the record so far. "Things we have never discussed outside before".

A lengthy conversation then, with Krikorian, may give you some idea of what she's referring to.

Here's Krikorian, directly quoted. Hang on to your seats...

"From my opinion, if I'm some of the current members of Congress, I'd be very very worried about the information that's going to come out of this. There are current members of Congress that she has implicated in bribery, espionage. It's not good. It's crazy, it's absolutely crazy. For people in power situations in the United States, who know about this information, if they don't take action against it, in my opinion, it's negligence.

[Which current members have been implicated?]

[Dan] Burton (R-IN), described as basically accepting bribes and involved in espionage for the Turkish government...she could not discuss the extremely illegal activities that Mr. Burton committed against U.S. interests, as she put it.

Also, a current female Democratic [ed note: I misheard, he later said he didn't know if she was Dem or Rep] member of Congress who has been blackmailed by the Turkish Government...called a 'hooking exercise'...she's apparently bi-sexual and they bugged her apartment, she's married with children, and they set up a relationship with another female who went in and had sexual relationships with her. And they had all the episodes bugged within this current Representatives home and they blackmailed her. ... She wouldn't give her name, but her photograph [is the one with the question mark on it in the "Sibel Edmonds Rogue Gallery" ] .

The context of the discussion was that this particular Representative was amenable to passage of the Armenian Genocide Resolution. And then based on this 'hooking' operation, changed her position. She was reluctant to put this person's name on record.

[Other people implicated included] Livingston (R-TX), Hastert (R-IL), Dick Gephardt (D-MO), other non-Congressional members, people like Brent Scowcroft, other appointed members of the U.S. government.

One of the reasons we sought her testimony is especially for these reasons. I can tell you that counsel for Schmidt has been objecting to much of the testimony. I stopped counting the number of objections that were raised. But, she's an extremely credible witness, she knows a lot about what happened. She's implicated Turkish organizations operating in the U.S. with both overt and covert operations.

[Q: Which ones?]

ATC, ATAA, TACO...She talked about how she was recruited to join these operations, she talked about the fact that the Inspector General's report exonerated her, she talked about the circumstances around her dismissal, she talked about the fact that these the fact that these Turkish American operations were, she said in her words 'all receiving support from the Turkish government'.

She talks about one of the main lobby issues is suppressing U.S. media coverage of the Armenian Genocide and preventing the Armenian Genocide resolution in Congress from passing. She said very very strongly that is one of their major issues.

She also attested there is no credible opposition to the historical facts of the Armenian genocide, that it's only coming from Turkey.

[Ed note: Edmonds was raised in Turkey, though is a U.S. citizen. Krikorian is of Armenian dissent. Schmidt is neither, but she is co-chair of the Congressional Turkish Caucus.]

Did not have very flattering things to say about former U.S. House Speaker Dennis Hastert. ... Actually, I stopped taking notes because I was o fascinated by what she was saying. ... She talked about the Rand Corp., Brewster-Jennings, nuclear secrets...

Frankly it's disappointing that things like this are happening in the land of the free and the home of the brave. Is it a huge surprise? No. Should it be tolerated? Absolutely not. I can't imagine George Washington and Thomas Jefferson allowing this sort of thing to go on in the Republic that they created. I cannot imagine it.

We're talking about High Crimes against the United States government. If the Government is aware of these High Crimes and doesn't prosecute them, I'm not sure what can be said about this.

...

[Q: Do you predict problems with Democrats whose support you will need when running against Schmidt as a Dem in 2010?]

Problem with Democrats...?

Well, Mr. Gephardt and Mr. Solarz are no longer Representatives of the U.S. House of Representatives. I think it would be extremely naive and the height of folly for the Democratic leadership to suggest for a moment that Democrats aren't also corrupt. I don't mean as an entirety, but that there aren't corrupt members of the Democrat caucus. I think there was a recent Democrat down south somewhere who was found with thirty thousand dollars cash in his freezer, or whatever.

If Democratic National Committee or the DCCC [Democratic Congressional Campaign Comm.] came out and said, 'hey, we're entirely clean and there's no fault on us', I think the American public would laugh at them. So, this is not an indictment of one party or the other. This is about standing up for what's right for the country, and what is right for the citizens of our country.

Again, I ran as an independent last time [in 2008]. I'm running as a Democrat [in 2010] because I think right now they're probably the better of the two parties. But nevertheless, I don't necessarily buy into the fact that they're without blood on their hands...

[Q: Did she implicate any sitting Democrats?]

She did not indicate any names of any currently serving Democrats that I'm aware. [Though he wasn't certain if the unnamed female Representative was either Democratic or Republican].

Krikorian went on to say that he expects to release the video of the deposition, which, along with the transcript, is the property of his legal team. says "There will be...This could be a 10 part YouTube video segment, that we'll put out there."

He doesn't yet know when a transcript will be available.

The cross-testimony of Edmonds, by Schmidt's attorney Fein is still in progress...
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:23 pm

12:56pm (3:56pm ET) Okay, I believe this will be the final update. But it will end with a BANG. Big time...Read to the end...really...

The attorneys and Krikorian and Edmonds all had a media avail after the deposition completed.

Bruce Fein, the attorney for Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-OH) --- who began all of this with her complaint at the Ohio Election Commission against David Krikorian, claiming he made "false statements" by alleging she took "blood money" from Turkish interests to suppress a vote in the U.S. House on the Armenian Genocide resolution --- was confronted by a reporter with Armenian TV who asked if it wasn't the "cornerstone of free speech for candidates to talk about freely about these matters.

Fein became very defensive, said that Krikorian "can say whatever he wants about the Armenian Genocide, but what he's not allowed to do is state lies. We don't want to close anybody's mouth when it comes to taking about the Armenian Genocide...What we're trying to do is promote freedom of speech. Some versions are trying to harass individuals who are trying to dispute history."

The reporter, Elizabeth Chouldjian, freelancing coverage today for Armenian Horizons TV, is also with Armenian National Committee of America, and she continue to press her points, and asked Fein if he didn't have a conflict of interest in this case. She had earlier told me that Fein was a Board member of the Turkish Coalition of America, Turkish American Legal Defense Fund and legal counsel for Assembly of Turkish American Associations. She wondered if it was appropriate for Fein to represent Schmidt, since he himself could be called to testify, as a witness on behalf of the Assembly of Turkish American Associations.

Chouldjian had told me that he's been flying around the country, essentially trying to deny that the genocide ever occurred, has sued the state of Massachusetts to put Armenian genocide "denialist" material in text books, is suing the Southern Poverty Law Center for putting out an article last year called "State of Denial" which, she says, focused on Turkish interests trying to block Armenian Genocide resolution from being passed.

Fein left very quickly thereafter, so I didn't get a chance to ask him if he, himself, recognized what he called, several times, "the Armenian genocide".

Chouldjian later told Edmonds of Fein's connections to those organizations, several of whom came up in the deposition apparently. Edmonds had no idea Fein was allied with those organizations.

Michael Kohn, Edmonds attorney, working on behalf of the National Whistleblower Center made his statement to say he's "glad her testimony has finally count out...It's been many years in the making. We're delighted that the Justice Department did not intervene and allowed the testimony to go forward." He said it was "a breath of fresh air from the previous administration." He didn't "think it would have happened with the previous administration."

He was not sure when the transcript of the session would be released. New information today, he said, including naming persons by name and with a great deal of specifics. NWC would review the testimony and disseminate publicly as soon as possible.

Krikorian stated: "We came here to get the sworn testimony of a very very credible witness in defense against a current Congresswoman. And then, beyond that, doing what is right for the country, which is why I'm running. I plan to win this case, and I plan to win this election," he said.

He said their is an Ohio Election Commission preliminary meeting on Aug. 13th, and a hearing on Sept 3rd, and that he would look at releasing both video and transcript thereafter.

Edmonds, however, seemed to suggest that the video tape, at least, might be released in full sooner.

Here comes a bombshell or two...

At the venue, Edmonds said that she named names and details on all of the Congress members noted on her "State Secrets Gallery" page. And then some.

She said she told them about "Mr. [Marc] Grossman and Brewster Jennings...And the real story about them, not the crap they got from the media."

I was unable to follow up that statement with a question, before she got into a cab, but was able to track her down on her cell thereafter.

First, I asked if she specified whether the sitting bi-sexual, married Congresswoman who had been taped sleeping with a woman, without knowing, and then bribed by Turkish interests with the tape, to vote against the Armenian Genocide resolution had been a Democrat or a Republican. She said she is a Democrat, and that she testified to that during her deposition. (See Krikorian's long statement above for more details on that woman.)

Second, I asked about the the "real" story on Brewster Jennings, as opposed to the "crap...from the media" as she mentioned at the venue.

"Basically," she said, "I told them how [third-ranking State Dept. official in the Bush Admin and former Ambassador to Turkey] Marc Grossman disclosed" that Brewster Jennings was a CIA front company] to the target of an FBI investigation. "And it was under oath and that some some lives may have been lost."

"Novak has nothing to do with it. Wilson has nothing to do with it. Valerie Plame has nothing to do with it. The whole operation has to do with something totally different and it had to do with the American Turkish Council and the Turkish clients who were about to hire Brewster Jennings as an analyst ... and Grossman found out about it, and tipped off his diplomatic contact who was a target of the FBI counter-intelligence, and that person notified the ISI [Pakistani intelligence agency], etc."

She says that Brewster Jenning was then "dismantled as soon as the FBI notified the CIA" after which "FBI requested CIA to do a damage assessment, to see if lives would be lost."

All of this, she re-iterated was "long before, three years before" Novak outed Valerie Plame as a CIA operative in his newspaper column.

Brewster Jennings was "absolutely" dismantled in August of 2001.

"Grossman and [Richard] Armitage, they are the only two people involved. Later on Cheney and his people may have used it, but it had nothing to do with those other things, [Brewster Jennings] was completely destroyed and gone by the summer of 2001."

Bombshell enough for ya? Let's see if anyone in the corporate media bothers to agree, and/or pick up on this --- now that it's officially "on the record" and, as Edmonds took pains to point out: under oath!
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:39 pm

Is it Jane Harmon?


The genocide vote: Now is not the time
A congresswoman explains her decision to oppose the Armenian genocide bill she co-sponsored.
By Jane Harman
October 12, 2007
As one whose own family was decimated by the Holocaust, I respond very personally to charges that I would deny the existence of savage acts of inhumanity against a group of people because of ethnic, religious or racial differences -- be they Jews, Darfurians, Rwandans or Armenians.

Yet that's exactly what I was accused of last week after I sent a letter to Rep. Tom Lantos, the chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, urging him to withdrawHR 106, which I had co-sponsored earlier in the year. Some Armenian Americans, whose passion I appreciate, have misinterpreted my determination that the time is not right to vote on such a resolution as "denial" of the Armenian genocide. Nothing could be further from the truth.

No question: The debate raging in Washington over the Armenian genocide resolution is personal. Similar resolutions have passed the House twice -- in 1975 and 1984 -- and we are poised to pass another before Thanksgiving. Whether it will be brought to a vote in the Senate remains unclear.

I originally co-sponsored the resolution because I was convinced that the terrible crime against the Armenian people should be recognized and condemned. But after a visit in February to Turkey, where I met with Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Armenian Orthodox patriarch and colleagues of murdered Turkish Armenian journalist Hrant Dink, I became convinced that passing this resolution again at this time would isolate and embarrass a courageous and moderate Islamic government in perhaps the most volatile region in the world.
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Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:51 pm

Cannonfire seems to think so

Is it Jane Harman? (from the Sibel Edmonds deposition)




Saturday, August 08, 2009
Is it Jane Harman? (from the Sibel Edmonds deposition)
Ah, this is delicious! You want a sex scandal? We got one!

BradBlog is live-blogging the Sibel Edmonds deposition, which we described two posts below. Here's the bit that everyone will be talking about:
Also, a current female...member of Congress who has been blackmailed by the Turkish Government...called a 'hooking exercise'...she's apparently bi-sexual and they bugged her apartment, she's married with children, and they set up a relationship with another female who went in and had sexual relationships with her. And they had all the episodes bugged within this current Representatives home and they blackmailed her. ... She wouldn't give her name, but her photograph [is the one with the question mark on it in the "Sibel Edmonds Rogue Gallery" ] .

The context of the discussion was that this particular Representative was amenable to passage of the Armenian Genocide Resolution. And then based on this 'hooking' operation, changed her position. She was reluctant to put this person's name on record.
So who is the mystery congresswoman, and why is Sibel Edmonds being coy about the name? I'll presume that we're not talking about Jean Schmidt -- a refusal to name her would have been ridiculous, given the circumstances.

There are at present 74 female House members. If you want a list, go here.

I think we have a likely suspect, my friends: Jane Harman. Check it out:

Community activist and civic leader Azniv Goenjian recently traveled to Washington, DC with the Armenian National Committee of America – Western Region (ANCA-WR) to confront her Congresswoman, Jane Harman (D-CA-36), for secretly opposing the Armenian Genocide Resolution, H. Res. 106, while publicly presenting herself as a supporter of this human right legislation.
Ties right in with what Sibel said, does it not?

This sort of thing has happened to Jane before. Remember her similar involvement with the AIPAC scandal? Remember this? (Also here.) If Jane Harman has a skeletonized closet, then her strange role in the AIPAC matter suddenly takes on a new dimension.

It's especially interesting if we posit that Turkey and Israel were trading intelligence. And that's a really good bet. See here and here:
According to a report in The Jerusalem Post, intelligence cooperation between the Mossad and the Turkish security service, MIT, "was enshrined in a 12-clause agreement that was signed during a 1993 visit to Israel by then-Turkish foreign minister Hikmat Chetin".

Soon after, according to the London-based newsletter Foreign Report, a large Mossad operation was established in Turkey, with Mossad agents based in both Istanbul and Ankara.
That's the part which even Sibel is leaving out. (Also see my previous post here.)

Update: Sibel Edmonds has fingered Harman before. See here, and do some reading between the lines.
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Postby bubblefunk » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:18 pm

Great thread - but would it kill anyone to put Sibel's name in the title of the post? It took me four days to find this discussion!

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Postby cptmarginal » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:45 pm

bubblefunk wrote:Great thread - but would it kill anyone to put Sibel's name in the title of the post? It took me four days to find this discussion!

Thanks.


I was going to make a new thread but bumped this one instead since it was on the first page...

Update: Sibel Edmonds has fingered Harman before.


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