'Gremlins' - WWIIDisney/Vietnam/Plum decoy by Spielberg

[barracuda]

BTW, barracuda. The fake lens flares are only for a few seconds and you didn't even put up the image I described quite clearly.
As if you can put up one damn frame and crow "see, nothing." That doesn't even make sense as an attempted refutation. Why would you do that?

You are either badly informed, poorly sighted, wrong, or lying. This sunset is during the exact sequence you described, the BMX chase near the end of the movie, when the police finally have them cut off and E.T. makes all the bikes rise into the air over the cops heads, and into the setting sun. That you would dispute this just tells me you haven't really watched this part of the movie with any discernment. OP ED was nice enough to actually lead you by the nose to the web-based resources from which I took the screen capture. Try looking instead of talking.

Six hours, huh? For what fundraiser, did you say? The local Minutemen chapter, I suppose. Kindly fix the fucking thread spread in your previous post, man. I wanna be able to read this shit without your blurring tactics making it more difficult to stomach than it already is. I consider it to be on the level of what orz did, or worse. Speaking of which, orz, your huge .gif animation in your signature is making the pages impossible to load on my 56k dial up. It was funny, but please knock it off.

[brainpanhandler]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpiIWMWWVco]
It's not easy being green

It's not that easy being green
Having to spend each day the color of the leaves
When I think it could be nicer being red, or yellow or gold
Or something much more colorful like that

It's not easy being green
It seems you blend in with so many other ordinary things
And people tend to pass you over 'cause you're
Not standing out like flashy sparkles in the water
Or stars in the sky

But green's the color of Spring
And green can be cool and friendly-like
And green can be big like an ocean, or important
Like a mountain, or tall like a tree

When green is all there is to be
It could make you wonder why, but why wonder why
Wonder, I am green and it'll do fine, it's beautiful
And I think it's what I want to be
[/url]

[barracuda]

It's not that hard either, though, really.

[OP ED]

OP ED was nice enough to actually lead you by the nose to the web-based resources from which I took the screen capture.

niceness wasn't part of my motivations, and it only took like five seconds for me to find the scene on youtube.

but i got bored before i even got to the exact frame in question.

i was already of the opinion that the technology required to edit a lens flare into the appearance of a "bell" didn't exist in 1981. which means, btw, that if you DO see one, it is time to adjust your prescription(s).

[barracuda]

It was sort of just a figure of speech. I can't believe I went at looked at it myself. I hate that schmaltzy movie. The first time my daughter saw it, she took one look at E.T. and screamed 'nake! 'nake! and ran away and hid. She couldn't quite get the "s" sound yet.

I wasn't able to find out when composting of such a effect would be possible, but I sort of assumed you could do it judging from lens flares in movies like 2001, not that it matters, as this one is pretty clearly not faked.

[justdrew]

OP ED was nice enough to actually lead you by the nose to the web-based resources from which I took the screen capture.

niceness wasn't part of my motivations, and it only took like five seconds for me to find the scene on youtube.

but i got bored before i even got to the exact frame in question.

i was already of the opinion that the technology required to edit a lens flare into the appearance of a "bell" didn't exist in 1981. which means, btw, that if you DO see one, it is time to adjust your prescription(s).

it could probably be easily done in the olden days with a flexible reflective surface to bounce the light off, an optical effect; but I don't know if they actually did that, or even if there is such a flare, I just watched the damn thing on youtube and couldn't make out any lens flare. anyway... yeah, pointless to have watched that again, I was enjoying never seeing it again.

[OP ED]

i've never seen it.

well i mean i have, but never all at once, as a movie. i've seen pieces of it a million times.

...

also, not that it even matters. pentagons and bells are ubiquitous and generally irrelevant without context. further, the notion that such a complex and expensive hijacking for the supposed effect of memetic innoculation against information about POWs is actually just beyond the realm of what i can even consider likely enough to really put much more thought into.

...

btw, orz, i love the graphic, but seriously, you need a hobby or something.

[barracuda]

i've never seen it.

Lucky devil, uhh, I mean devil worshiper.

[OP ED]

Immunity from it was among the clauses i outlined in my work-for-hire contract with thee Dark Lord.

[along with about ten other Spielberg movies]

[barracuda]

Smart move by old Nick, though, especially considering that E.T. is really just a cinematic transfiguration of Christ anyway, complete with the Catholic glowing heart and all.

[OP ED]

interesting article. kinda old news really, but yeah.

[although wonder woman doesn't wear a mask]

[which actually makes her more christ-like, in the superman sense]

[BOOGIE66]

Gizmo is a Mogwai, not a Gremlin.

[compared2what?]

Quick response to you, c2w.

Saturday 8/8/09 psyops show on NPR called 'Radio Lab' was all about how we make decisions.

They touched on "priming," in a safe way, of course.

No mention that this is the main tool used in psyops culture constantly doing subliminal massaging of the public mind.

They are trying to stay ahead of our learning curve with forestalling, safe harbors, and all those techniques for minimizing things into old news.

I just lost a very detailed reply saying in part that I'm aware of priming. And that as far as I'm aware, neither semantic priming, nor associative priming, nor any other kind of priming even comes close to being capable of so forcefully overriding every single aspect of cognition and perception that it turns the human mind into a passive but acutely sensitive device that's been pre-set to receive whatever transmissions the CIA decides to broadcast on the frequencies for which the CIA has primed it.

I also pointed out that anyone who transiently and obliquely exposing people to a prime by slipping it into a crowded sensory environment the more prominent features of which compel attention at something close to the capacity the human mind has to pay to it -- such as, let's say, E.T. -- with the confident expectation that those people will both form and retain a discrete, predictable, profound, enduring and exploitable memory of that prime is probably not very well acquainted with the literature, such as it is.

In short: Priming isn't brainwashing, Hugh. You can't -- and that's "can't," as in "cannot," or "it is absolutely, completely and totally out of the question to suggest that it's possible to" -- control or reliably predict in what broad terms one measly single individual will view and assess highly consequential information that's unrelated to the prime, even when it really is one. Let alone the very specific influence it will have on large numbers of people that your analyses assume.

So. Was that your final answer?

[NeonLX]

I used to win a lot of races down the 1/4-mile strip with this bad boy:

[compared2what?]

Smart move by old Nick, though, especially considering that E.T. is really just a cinematic transfiguration of Christ anyway, complete with the Catholic glowing heart and all.

I actually referred to that in the post that I lost! Because that's actually an excellent example of mass-cultural associative priming!

Or anyway, I remarked that it would be a viable premise to say that audiences were primed to respond strongly to a story about a being from the heavens who acts as a shepherd and savior to those who accept him that culminates in his persecution, death, resurrection and bodily assumption back into the heavens from which he descended. But it was kind of a tangent, so I decided to let it stay lost.

Also, I haven't clicked your link yet. I'm just assuming that it leads to a reading of the movie that supports the general viability of my lost remark.

I guess I'll have to come back and put some blushing emoticons in on edit if I turn out to be wrong about that.