So, what would you do if Danny Casolaro asked for your help?

[nathan28]

"The Jeerleader." I think I've just been awarded my supervillian name.

[Searcher08]

It has been interesting to revisit this thread.

I think I was very naive in thinking that once Rachel posted here there would be lots of empowering interest and concerted action - and who knows what might happen.

Lots of mudslinging, lots of bitching, lots of 'disinformation snap'
(X is a disinformation person...
Noooo! YYY is the disinformation person etc etc)

Danny Casolaro is probably doing

Psynapz, you rock.
Bigger question: Is any of this getting us anywhere towards "justice"?

[compared2what?]

It was a deposit box. Inside the box, the Feds say was a treasury note, an effective IOU for gold.

We're not talking coins here. We're talking 2,500 metric tons of gold. That's $250 billion.

These treasury notes are rare and privately owned.

The allegation here is that the U.S. Treasury issues secret private notes that can be redeemed for gold? Do I understand that correctly? What gold? From where? Do the holders of these instruments drive their U-Hauls to Fort Knox and tell the receptionist that they've come to redeem their rare treasury notes, or what?

I'm confused.

[desertfae]

I agree it's suspicious that she never responded to this after all the prodding, but it's plausible that she tagged it 'arg' to lure ARGers as the best memetic agents for spreading her story far and wide for innocent and righteous reasons, taking full advantage of their research skills and determination for the purpose of raising the profile on Casolaro's "Octopus" research through her very personal story.

I am not going to get into this entire 'am I me' thing again. But I will say that I did respond before, even to the point of posting my birth certificate and dad's death cert-I removed them after I found out that certain members contacted VM. I didn't want her to have them. My birth cert is none of her business and I've confirmed my identity with those who matter.
As a matter of fact, I took my birth certificate, social security card, drivers license, dad's death certificate, and pictures of me and my dad together when I was a kid to the local police dept, had them verify they were real (while talking to investigators in California) and fax all of my info over to them. When I say that I've verified my identity to those that matter, I have. End of subject.
This is the last time I'll explain this k? As far as why I disappeared, it was because of all the attacks, libel, and BS going on. I saw no point in continuing to try to "defend" myself when no matter what I said, nothing mattered and the attacks and libelous posts continued. Therefore, I left. Pretty simple.

If I were in her alleged situation, I would probably do exactly what she's doing. Of course, this is what would make her a perfect (controlled alter?) for a big gatekeeping co-opt-and-distract psyop. How will we ever know? If we won't, then we should, still in full consideration of source as always, focus on rigorously intuiting the data.

I'm not a puppet, alter, whatever..I'm simply me. Anyone living in the Louisville, KY area want to meet me to see that, I'm up for it, in a very public place. I'll even show you my ID lol (maybe even some evidence)

I'm with OP ED on reserving judgement on desertfae, but you can't deny she's managed to fire up this rather voracious investigative TV reporter about some very real and very dangerous truths we here have the dubious privilege of understanding as a whackjob minority, which is now growing thanks in part to the populous regional TV coverage she inspired.

One thing I've learned in this is that it's hard to trust anyone... so yes, please check everything out. When I started this investigation, I was a very trusting person.. not so much anymore. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a paranoid freak or anything, I just really watch for 'red flags' when dealing with people now. I've been burned a lot over the last few years. I even had a 'spy' type guy get a job where I worked...interesting story actually.
I was outside at break with some friends. In Louisville, not too many people know about my case so I was showing a friend one of KESQ's video reports on my phone when this guy I'd never seen before comes up out of the blue, stands right next to me and asks what we're watching. I was uncomfortable because he was right next to me. I told him "watching a news report on my dad's murder" and instead of having a reaction most others have like "omg, your dad was murdered?" or whatever, he just goes "oh, ok. Who was your dad" so I told him "Ralph Boger" and he goes "oh, I know all about that". Red flags, like I said. He starts naming off people like Thompson, Hughes, Nichols, RBN etc.. my friends that were standing there were like shocked and said they were going in, so I followed. This guy ended up stalking me at work. Even grabbed me in the elevator once, to which I told him that if he ever touched me again, he'd be sorry. I have all of this in documentation from work as well. This went on for approx. 2 months until I finally left because of his harassment of me. Ok, it's 3am, I'm tired, rambling.... lol

Again, if I were in her alleged position for real, I would do the exact same thing to get more attention, because profile=protection. I'd use black hat SEO tactics. I'd pay for AdWords on every unrelated CT topic you could imagine. I'd put the ARG types to good use for a change and get them to help dig up the dirt and fling it further and wider than an ABC-Disney-CIA affiliate in the middle of the desert ever could. I'd make dramatic YouTube videos. I'd hunt people down like a rabid animal.

OTOH, to equivocate completely, I'd do all these things too if I had been the victim of trauma-based MC with instructions to do all this squawking when an alter is triggered.

Bigger question: Is any of this getting us anywhere towards "justice"?

If you knew me offline, you'd know that I'm no one's puppet, not mind controlled or anything like that. I'm pretty independent actually, to the point that it irritates people sometimes when I don't go along with them. Am I perfect? Far from it. I'm just a daughter of a murder victim looking for justice. Will any of this get us anywhere towards 'justice"? That's my goal.

[desertfae]

It was a deposit box. Inside the box, the Feds say was a treasury note, an effective IOU for gold.

We're not talking coins here. We're talking 2,500 metric tons of gold. That's $250 billion.

These treasury notes are rare and privately owned.

The allegation here is that the U.S. Treasury issues secret private notes that can be redeemed for gold? Do I understand that correctly? What gold? From where? Do the holders of these instruments drive their U-Hauls to Fort Knox and tell the receptionist that they've come to redeem their rare treasury notes, or what?

I'm confused.

Tomorrow, when I'm not so tired, I'll explain this more if you want, or if you have a way to chat we can talk about it.. whatever works for you.

[OP ED]

I agree it's suspicious that she never responded to this after all the prodding, but it's plausible that she tagged it 'arg' to lure ARGers as the best memetic agents for spreading her story far and wide for innocent and righteous reasons, taking full advantage of their research skills and determination for the purpose of raising the profile on Casolaro's "Octopus" research through her very personal story.

I am not going to get into this entire 'am I me' thing again. But I will say that I did respond before, even to the point of posting my birth certificate and dad's death cert-I removed them after I found out that certain members contacted VM. I didn't want her to have them. My birth cert is none of her business and I've confirmed my identity with those who matter.
As a matter of fact, I took my birth certificate, social security card, drivers license, dad's death certificate, and pictures of me and my dad together when I was a kid to the local police dept, had them verify they were real (while talking to investigators in California) and fax all of my info over to them. When I say that I've verified my identity to those that matter, I have. End of subject.
This is the last time I'll explain this k? As far as why I disappeared, it was because of all the attacks, libel, and BS going on. I saw no point in continuing to try to "defend" myself when no matter what I said, nothing mattered and the attacks and libelous posts continued. Therefore, I left. Pretty simple.

If I were in her alleged situation, I would probably do exactly what she's doing. Of course, this is what would make her a perfect (controlled alter?) for a big gatekeeping co-opt-and-distract psyop. How will we ever know? If we won't, then we should, still in full consideration of source as always, focus on rigorously intuiting the data.

I'm not a puppet, alter, whatever..I'm simply me. Anyone living in the Louisville, KY area want to meet me to see that, I'm up for it, in a very public place. I'll even show you my ID lol (maybe even some evidence)

I'm with OP ED on reserving judgement on desertfae, but you can't deny she's managed to fire up this rather voracious investigative TV reporter about some very real and very dangerous truths we here have the dubious privilege of understanding as a whackjob minority, which is now growing thanks in part to the populous regional TV coverage she inspired.

One thing I've learned in this is that it's hard to trust anyone... so yes, please check everything out. When I started this investigation, I was a very trusting person.. not so much anymore. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a paranoid freak or anything, I just really watch for 'red flags' when dealing with people now. I've been burned a lot over the last few years. I even had a 'spy' type guy get a job where I worked...interesting story actually.
I was outside at break with some friends. In Louisville, not too many people know about my case so I was showing a friend one of KESQ's video reports on my phone when this guy I'd never seen before comes up out of the blue, stands right next to me and asks what we're watching. I was uncomfortable because he was right next to me. I told him "watching a news report on my dad's murder" and instead of having a reaction most others have like "omg, your dad was murdered?" or whatever, he just goes "oh, ok. Who was your dad" so I told him "Ralph Boger" and he goes "oh, I know all about that". Red flags, like I said. He starts naming off people like Thompson, Hughes, Nichols, RBN etc.. my friends that were standing there were like shocked and said they were going in, so I followed. This guy ended up stalking me at work. Even grabbed me in the elevator once, to which I told him that if he ever touched me again, he'd be sorry. I have all of this in documentation from work as well. This went on for approx. 2 months until I finally left because of his harassment of me. Ok, it's 3am, I'm tired, rambling.... lol

Again, if I were in her alleged position for real, I would do the exact same thing to get more attention, because profile=protection. I'd use black hat SEO tactics. I'd pay for AdWords on every unrelated CT topic you could imagine. I'd put the ARG types to good use for a change and get them to help dig up the dirt and fling it further and wider than an ABC-Disney-CIA affiliate in the middle of the desert ever could. I'd make dramatic YouTube videos. I'd hunt people down like a rabid animal.

OTOH, to equivocate completely, I'd do all these things too if I had been the victim of trauma-based MC with instructions to do all this squawking when an alter is triggered.

Bigger question: Is any of this getting us anywhere towards "justice"?

If you knew me offline, you'd know that I'm no one's puppet, not mind controlled or anything like that. I'm pretty independent actually, to the point that it irritates people sometimes when I don't go along with them. Am I perfect? Far from it. I'm just a daughter of a murder victim looking for justice. Will any of this get us anywhere towards 'justice"? That's my goal.

wonderful.

except, y'know, you responded to absolutely everything except the actual question, which has, y'know, already been asked several times and the avoidance does seem, y'know, kind of weird...

also it is the only question i'm really interested in a response to.

so, one more time:

why tag a video "arg" ?

[nathan28]

why tag a video "arg" ?

http://lg15today.blogspot.com/2007/10/murder-scene-desertfae.html

from the website http://lg15today.blogspot.com, as in "LonelyGirl15."

All that being said, let me explain how all of this got started. When I learned about the stuff surrounding my dad's murder I didn't know how to go about learning all of it (they don't call it the Octopus for nothing).. so I got the idea to do it "arg" style thinking maybe more heads digging for clues would be better.. but in all honesty, I'm glad it didn't take off in that way..
The reason why is that at this point with my dad's murder case being reopened, the McGowan case being re-investigated, and Philip Arthur Thompson going to trial for another murder, this is blowing up now (and there's more going on that I can't talk about yet.) Anyone involved at this point is in serious danger if they talk to the wrong people or make their identity known offline in any way.

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21786, with mod comments "[Trailhead]" and "[Not A Game]".

LaRouche... Gunderson...

What happens when LaRouche and Gunderson get anywhere near a court case?

[elfismiles]

I thot I'd posted in this thread about this but ...

Back in March or so of last year I contacted Kenn Thomas and asked him about DesertFae and he said he knew Rachel saying he'd sent her copies of Casolaro's notes.

FWIW...

[LilyPatToo]

I came here this AM to post (after taking some time to think through whether support from me would end up hurting desertfae's credibility), only to find that Searcher08 had already posted what I wanted to say:

It has been interesting to revisit this thread.

I think I was very naive in thinking that once Rachel posted here there would be lots of empowering interest and concerted action - and who knows what might happen.

Lots of mudslinging, lots of bitching, lots of 'disinformation snap'
(X is a disinformation person...
Noooo! YYY is the disinformation person etc etc)

Danny Casolaro is probably doing

Psynapz, you rock.

Bolded bit above is why I occasionally have to take a vacation from RI myself. The folks who constantly attack seem to almost completely lack a basic empathy that would allow them to see how their words might affect their chosen targets. My impression is that they're probably just young enough to have been traumatized by finding out about the whole deep state mess and are reflexively lashing out at anyone who dares to post with 1st hand info that confirms their worst fears...and believe me that's a kinder conclusion than others I've entertained.

If they keep driving away anyone claiming personal experience, then RI will just become another board full of 3rd hand discussion of ambiguous events. Perhaps one with a higher-than-usual IQ, but not a place where brand new information is likely to surface. I understand that the nature of this kind of subject matter probably went a long way toward fostering their sour, suspicious attitude, but Jeff said on the homepage:

A vigorous, curious and welcoming community of largely like-minded souls. Browse, consult the posting guidelines and jump in.

And there are lots of folks like that here, but they're frequently drowned out by the loud shouting from the kneejerk naysayers.

I'm glad to see you back, desertfae. RI's become a rough playground, but I believe it's still an excellent place to share information like yours. I wish you well in your search for justice and I'm appreciate you taking the time to clarify the "ARG" stuff. After what happened to Dream's End, a lot of us are justifiably ARG-wary.

LilyPat

[Jeff]

This thread makes me wonder, what would I do if Danny Casolaro asked to friend me on Facebook?

[Percival]

So there is a whole group of scorned ex girlfriends out there who are conspiring to bring Teddy down eh?

The question remains, what the fuck is he doing sleeping with all these women he is supposed to be helping anyway, since you seemingly ADMIT that this is the case in your above comment?

Do you seriously think it is OK for someone in his position to get sexually or intimately involved with women who themselves or whose children have been ritually/sexually abused, mind controlled/programmed etc?

And even if it is TRUE that all the bad stuff we hear about Teddy comes from a bunch of his scorned ex lovers I think that says more about him than it does them.



Butt hurt? Interesting.

Message to whoever-
1- I am not anyone's "puppet" or "sponge"
2- I am well aware of ex's of a certain person all getting together to try and discredit that individual, including the most recent one who acted as a friend to me, then decided to turn over all my emails to VM. This, to me, sounds like a bunch of butt hurt females mad over a break up that can't seem to move on with their lives. A woman's scorn I guess. ~shrug~

[nathan28]

I hadn't watched any of these videos until this afternoon, and everything I've seen screams LG15 knock-off and, in small print, "for entertainment purposes only."

When someone shows up with his or her own customized version of the Magus, then says "really, it's for real," and has a little storyline and hooks meant to catch, mixed with letters and pleadings from the court system, even if it's creative nonfiction, it's still an ARG. It hardly adds clarity to anything, and if it isn't an ARG it smells to me like willful misdirection or an outright con.

It could be worse, of course, I don't see any anagrams. Yet.

Likewise, "my life is in danger" posts don't strike me as convincing, because I'm going to assume, based on the coding behind that domain and the resort to readymade social networking services that turn over IP data at the drop of a hat, that these posts aren't being made in a secure manner.

Why can't we get a straight yes/no answer from Desertfae? The Unfiction team could, but I don't find that all that satisfying, since that would be the first place I might go if I was going lone wolf on a "really real" game.

If there is any veracity to what Desertfae is doing IMO it can only weaken the prosecution of an actual case. But hell, if you want to do the defense team's work, go ahead.

I didn't suggest that it is disinfo, but rather that it is not believable. If the mods want to make a determination that calling something an ARG is not kosher, fine.

[Jeff]

I didn't suggest that it is disinfo, but rather that it is not believable. If the mods want to make a determination that calling something an ARG is not kosher, fine.

Since the videos themselves are tagged "arg," I think it's just calling this by its proper name.

[desertfae]

compared2what? -I haven't forgot about your question. I've had a very busy day and haven't had time to respond yet. I'm on my way out the door right now also, so when I get back I'll respond to you.
As far as the "ARG" stuff- I'm me, not an actress in an ARG. I'll explain this more when I get back as well (although, this is a waste of my time, and my response when I get back will be my final response to the subject).
I'll also clarify some other things that stuck out to me in some responses when I return.
See you guys when I get back
Rachel

[American Dream]