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Postby chlamor » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:50 pm

Barack Obama, the ultimate bait-and-switch


Since Barack Obama has taken office, it is becoming increasing clear that he is not the savior the American people thought they were voting for. For all his talk of change, and all his progressive posturing, it's business as usual in Washington.

From the start, Obama was a sort of blank image, an empty shell created by public relations firms and media outlets. He garnered incredible support from the majority of the American people using words like hope, change and unity. Obama never had any real stances on issues or polices. To quote MIT linguist and political activist Noam Chomsky "Obama’s handlers, the campaign managers, have created an image that is essentially a blank slate. In the Obama campaign the words are hope, change, unity – totally vacuous slogans said by a nice person, who looks good and talks nicely – what commentators call 'soaring rhetoric' – and you can write anything you like on that blank slate.”

Instead of a man, the American people get “Brand Obama”, something that is a pure media construction. Obama isn't the first President like this. Ronald Reagan and JFK were both created my the media. Chomsky states that Reagan “probably didn't even know what the policies (in Washington) were, but he was a creation of the media.” Even though Reagan was in the White House, he was always just an actor, portraying a cowboy who would save the American people.

Kennedy was pure Hollywood with his movie star looks and the glamor of Camelot. Kennedy talked about the New Frontier and “what you can do for your country.” But this was the President that launched the invasion of South Vietnam and set into motion the para-military and economic repression of South America.

So what have have the American people really gotten with Obama in office. Chomsky says: “With the rhetorical flourishes stripped away, Obama presents himself as more or less as a familiar centrist Democrat, roughly on the Clinton model. His early appointments and advisers conform to that judgment.” It's clear Obama is not really progressive. He chose Joe Biden for Vice President and Biden was one of the strongest supporters of invading Iraq in the Senate. The choice of Biden shows the utmost contempt for the people that actually believed in Brand Obama.

Obama pays a lot of lip service to improving the economy, but he chose to run with Robert Rubin as Secretary of the Treasury and Larry Summers as Director of the National Economic Council. Both men are veterans of the Clinton Administration and helped engineer the financial crisis America faces now.Robert Rubin spent 26 years at Goldman Sachs before his government appointment and positively reeks “conflict of interest.”

When we cut to the chase, we can see that Obama is a cruel hoax. He works for Wall Street and is an agent of finance capital. Every single appointment Obama has made support the status quo. Every single one is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, The Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderburger Group.

There are legitimate reasons the people voted for Obama: to express their rage and discontent against the GOP and the neocons. People felt that George W. Bush was selling them down the river by creating endless war in the Middle East. The public had become alienated. The polls said that 80% of the population believed the country was run by a few big financial interests. Obama promised change, and as outrageous as that may seem coming from a man groomed and handled by Wall Street, the American people had become desperate and willing to grasp at straws, at the faintest glimmer of hope. The Obama phenomenon and American terror and desperation go hand in hand.

Rapper and Activist KRS-1 summed it up nicely in the documentary Obama Deception by saying: “They just put a black face on the New World Order.”

http://www.examiner.com/x-17851-Monroe- ... tandswitch
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Postby chiggerbit » Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:58 pm

I see that you've been discussed, chlamor:

http://tinyurl.com/nw7zwr
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Postby chlamor » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:08 pm

Liberal thy name is hypocrisy. What's new?
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Postby Sweejak » Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:43 pm

chiggerbit wrote:I see that you've been discussed, chlamor:

http://tinyurl.com/nw7zwr


The Israelis are now paying bloggers, I wonder if DE is picking up his or if he does it for free.

Anyway, here's Joe Bageant:

Obama's Fight for Reform

http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2009/08/o ... eform.html
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Postby chlamor » Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:03 am

Wrist-slap and Tickle: Obama Goes Mild on CIA Torture
Written by Chris Floyd
Tuesday, 25 August 2009 12:32

The American political world is shocked – shocked – to discover that the CIA has been torturing some of the victims seized, kidnapped, snatched and literally sold into captivity by America's Terror Warriors. (Other captives have been tortured by the military, by hired contractors, and by various other organs of the security apparat.) This despite the fact that these tortures – including the threat to kill a captive's children – have been known for years, reported in the mainstream media and in several books by well-regard writers with highly respectable publishing houses. (I've been writing about America's torture regimen, in print and on-line, since early 2002, drawing almost entirely on these widely available sources.) None of the material now being released is "news" in the sense that it is new; but as always, it's nice to have one more source of confirmation for these already multiply-confirmed high crimes.

Of course, Barack Obama – who was forced to release some of the material by an ACLU lawsuit, and not because of his deep-rooted, progressive commitment to openness in government – has chosen to go the time-honored "rotten apples" route. Whenever a sliver of light is thrown onto the atrocities of the American power structure, our leaders – regardless of party or puported ideological stripe – always, without fail, seek out a few patsies to stitch up in show trials, to "prove" that the "system works," and can weed out the few "bad apples" who have left a tragic – but infinitely small – stain on America's unrelenting goodness. This is precisely what Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder, are doing now. Holder has announced a tepid probe into some of the possible "excesses" committed by a few CIA interrogators, while letting the true architects and perpetrators of an elaborate, deliberate, inherent system of torture get off scot-free.

Glenn Greenwald has many of the details here and here, among them the telling – and damning – fact that Obama and Holder have apparently decided that the "torture memos" prepared at the White House's order should be considered "settled law;" that is, only those agents whose tortures might have gone a bit beyond the already heinous tortures "allowed" by the White House memos are to be investigated for possible prosecution. As long as you stayed within the gruesome "guidelines" of the White House torture memos, then your atrocities are now to be considered "legal." This is yet another open reinforcement of the long-established covert practice of what we might call Nixon's Law: "If the president orders it, it cannot be illegal." As we have seen over the years, this includes the genocidal bombing of Cambodia, the waging of aggressive war in Iraq (which has murdered well over a million people), the "extrajudicial assassination" of, well, anybody the president or his designated minions care to kill; and the establishment of a world-wide gulag of torture and murder.

Greenwald also underlines a point buried deep in the newly-released Inspector General's report:



that many of the detainees who were subjected to this treatment were so treated due to "assessments that were unsupported by credible intelligence" -- meaning there was no real reason to think they had done anything wrong whatsoever. As has been known for quite some time, many of the people who were tortured by the United States were completely innocent -- guilty of absolutely nothing.
Greenwald and those he links to lay out the facts and the implications of the latest development well. (Salon's Mark Benjamin has highlights from the actual document here.) However, I must take issue with one of his main points. Greenwald insists that all Americans should be made to learn about the tortures outlined in the IG report, so they will "know what was done in their names." The apparent implication of this is that if the people know, they will rise up and demand that the true perpetrators be punished, without fear or favor, all the way to the top. This is a noble sentiment, of course, but I'm afraid that one can only reply to it as Brick did to Maggie the Cat's protestations of her love: "Wouldn't it be something if that were true?"

For the plain fact is that "the people" out there beyond the Beltway do have a good idea of "what's been done in their names." (As noted above, most of the damning facts about the American gulag have been in the public domain for a long time.) And for the most part they are fine with it. The Foxicated faction of the public – those tens of millions who live in Rupert Murdoch's overheated fantasy world -- enthusiastically embrace torture, of course; hell, they'd like to see more of it. To this large swathe of the public, it is the prosecuction of torture that is the atrocity.

As for the vast, amorphous, floating "center" so beloved by pundits and politicians, their reaction would largely echo Obama's own hand-picked CIA Director, Leon Panetta, who says we must be understanding of any possible "excesses" committed after 9/11, because, after all, our leaders were just doing what they felt they had to do to keep us safe in a very trying time. Maybe a few people went overboard here and there – and yes, maybe some of the policies themselves were misconceived, even foolish (like that invasion of Iraq thing) – but again, they were all undertaken in good faith, by leaders who, even if we might strongly disagree with them, were doing what they thought best for the country.

If the people have not already risen up in anger and protest at what has been done in their names, then a few more details from a heavily-censored government report dealing with only one small aspect of a massive, systemic crime is not going to move them.

As for Obama, he has always made clear his intention to avoid prosecuting his imperial forbears for anything. And he will doubtless do all he can to keep the plucking of bad apples to an absolute minimum. (That's assuming that anyone at all will actually be prosecuted as a result of the new probe.) But even the very mild measures Obama has been forced into by the ACLU lawsuit must be making him a bit nervous. After all, the last president who made noises about punishing the security apparat is now lying beneath an eternal flame in Arlington Cemetery. These guys play for keeps.

http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/co ... rture.html
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Postby seemslikeadream » Wed Aug 26, 2009 4:35 pm

chlamor wrote:

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A little tale I was asked to convey since he has been silenced at PI and can no longer defend himself there and his emails are ignored. Maybe you can pass it on to the gang?


This is from a very good friend of mine and at one time fellow member of Progressive Independent, Dragonfli. He is the artist who's work adorns the pages of that site, a work that has been stolen from him even after repeated requests from him to stop using it.

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What caused Dragonfli to demand they stop using his work was when they openly started promoting Nechayev's Catechism


What caused Dragonfli to demand they stop using his work was when they openly started promoting Nechayev's Catechism
He has an open source policy with all his work, he doesn't mind people using anything he does for any reason but one - he will not be associated with hate speech or calling for murder under a banner he created.
He has stuff all over the web (he never signs his work) and doesn't care if people like stuff and find a use for it, but he feels that he can have this one rule. They crossed that line.


As you know, if a graphic is posted on my own server (as mine usually are) I can notice if say I got 1000 referrals to an image on my server from one site in a week, and what site it is. My stats software even provides the links. Once about 5 years ago I noticed a great deal of traffic to an avatar image I made for someone coming from a white supremacists site, I don't recall the name. A member there (not the person I made it for) was using it while spouting evil vile shit. One email to the admin asking them not to link to my work was enough, I even received a polite apology from a guy named "Odin88" for one of his members using it, and an offer of literature so that I may re-think my opinions on their movement. I declined but the point is that the White Supremacists showed more honor than PI who received a similar request.

It is true that the art I provided (as well as $800 worth of bumper stickers I provided and payed for) was a donation, and she promised me a lifetime star for it. I am talking about a different site now that promotes hate (using the same name) that I can no longer post at. I can't even log in. I feel that I still have the right to one rule about using my art. She refused and has hijacked my art so I'm pissed and will keep using stuff I made for them to make fun of them. If they notice and take umbrage, tell them why I do this in public as I can no longer post at PI to discuss it and they are not returning my emails so my only option left is public embarrassment.

Dragonfli


ENJOY!



Breaking News!

A whistle blower deep within the headquarters of the NPG has recently overheard a heated conversation between both of the personalities of Two Americas joined by yet a third party (said to be the voice of his navel).

All of the details have yet to be transmitted, but my agent has stolen a rare copy of the soon to be released "little red e-book of absolute truth" that will be required daily reading (under penalty of death) once plans to liberate the workers of the world reaches fruition. He has bravely agreed to upload the cover page to me as a sign of good faith.


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He has also obtained a link to the song that inspired the great revolution.

This inspirational NPG liberated song was once thought to be the property of Godley & Creme (the driving force behind 10CC) until it was decided that such ownership by the artists was a vile theft committed against the people, a crime similar to the crimes committed by the infamous graphic artist Dragonfli (a known right wing fanatic).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qsqLegE1zQ


... I don't understand why all those extreme right wing PI members continuously red bait me with dishonest accusations that they don't even bother to type in their messages.
All I am trying to do is provide an environment where we, all of the board members, may decide the direction of the site exactly as I say it should be.
They must all have secret agendas. I know they are all liars! What do you think navel?

I think you don't read what they type at all

I keep trying to understand what you are saying navel but you are hard to understand, I think you are secretly trying to take away my new site and destroy the Workers of the world. Stop speaking in riddles and state something, anything. So that it can be challenged by Chlamor.

err ah TA, I'm your navel man, get a grip.

See what I mean? you keep talking in riddles, no one can understand anything you are saying! What do you think TA?

I concur TA, our navel is obviously up to something. you should have Kid put our navel on the hit list so that he can be "taken care of" with the rest of them for the good of the workers. Now that that is settled lets listen to our theme song for edification and then talk about THE BEES for a few weeks.

Yes TA you are right as usual. I agree especially about the bees. IT IS ALL ABOUT THE BEES DAMN IT (maniacal laughter mixed with sobbing)...



My source has made the decision to share this with me upon learning that he will be executed along with the other 98% of the population concluded to be right wing agitators with secret agendas that are plotting against The Chairman and the other 7 workers of the world that must unite at all cost.
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Postby Sweejak » Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:11 pm

Glen Ford of Black Agenda Report apologizes for giving Obama a pass. See video.

http://tinyurl.com/nzodwt
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Postby ninakat » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:45 pm

Sweejak wrote:Glen Ford of Black Agenda Report apologizes for giving Obama a pass. See video.

http://tinyurl.com/nzodwt


That was excellent. Thanks.
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Postby ninakat » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:49 pm

Bush's Third Term? You're Living It
By David Swanson

Article originally published here, with opening commentary by Tom: http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175109/ ... ngs_change

~snip~

Now, here's the funny part. This dark fantasy of a third Bush term is also an accurate portrait of Obama's first term to date. In following Bush, Obama was given the opportunity either to restore the rule of law and the balance of powers or to firmly establish in place what were otherwise aberrant abuses of power. Thus far, President Obama has, in all the areas mentioned above, chosen the latter course. Everything described, from the continuation of crimes to the efforts to hide them away, from the corruption of corporate power to the assertion of the executive power to legislate, is Obama's presidency in its first seven months.

Which doesn't mean there aren't differences in the two moments. For one thing, Democrats have now joined Republicans in approving expanded presidential powers and even -- in the case of wars, military strikes, lawless detention and rendition, warrantless spying, and the obstruction of justice -- presidential crimes. In addition, in the new Democratic era of goodwill, peace and justice movements have been strikingly defunded and, in some cases, even shut down. Many progressive groups now, in fact, take their signals from the president and his team, rather than bringing the public's demands to his doorstep.

If we really were in Bush's third term, people would be far more active and outraged. There would already be a major push to really end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan/Pakistan. Undoubtedly, the Democrats still wouldn't impeach Bush, especially since they'd be able to vote him out before his fourth term, and surely four more years of him wouldn't make all that much difference.
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Postby StarmanSkye » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:07 pm

Living Bush's third term;

RTFO. :shock:

Shoot me.

Please.

The worst of the sixties would still be 100 times better than the best of today.

Or am I just getting too old to appreciate change for its own sake? Whatever happened to the peace of mind that comes from maturity?

I'm more disgusted and freaked-out outraged than ever. I know, I should probably just munch my popcorn, enjoy the show while waiting for the plot-change that ushers in a glorious, shining ever-after.

But instead, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. On my head. If I'm this shell-shocked before the bombs, what will it be like after?

I shudder ...
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Postby marshwren » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:18 pm

StarmanSkye wrote:Living Bush's third term;

RTFO. :shock:
Shoot me.
Please.
The worst of the sixties would still be 100 times better than the best of today.
Or am I just getting too old to appreciate change for its own sake? Whatever happened to the peace of mind that comes from maturity?
I'm more disgusted and freaked-out outraged than ever. I know, I should probably just munch my popcorn, enjoy the show while waiting for the plot-change that ushers in a glorious, shining ever-after.
But instead, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. On my head. If I'm this shell-shocked before the bombs, what will it be like after?

I shudder ...


Oh, c'on, it's not as bad as you think: it's worse. Not only is Obomb'em Juniors's third term, he's Bubba's third term as well. And given how he's turned health care reform in HillaryCare ver. 2.009, he's her first term as well. As for the other shoe, i got hit too often to bother waiting (or counting) any more...i may not go into that good night with a wimper or a bang; but a vicious retort will suffice...
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Postby Pele'sDaughter » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:21 pm

Yes, I'm feeling that too. I never thought I'd think of those years as the good old days. At least the draft went but I don't believe we actually accomplished much at all since it has all come full circle now. And anyone who isn't afraid isn't paying attention. I'm sure you've got plenty of company, Starman.
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Postby Hammer of Los » Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:43 pm

Crazy aint it. Maddening, even.

I've been saying the same thing for ages. When is Obama policy going to deviate from Bush policy? Why don't people notice the change is missing?

You think the Business Plot finally succeeded? A fascist takeover? Headed by Poppy Bush and others, they have effected their coup via diverse means? I mean, weren't Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush all the same crew? And now Obama with his somewhat-opaque past, shall we say. I think maybe he plays ball for the same team. Policy is not allowed to deviate really, is it? I reckon its because hidden groups of people are effecting policy in preparation for various crises to come, some real, some perhaps not so real. Resource wars can only become more fierce as resources dwindle I guess.

Starmanskye, you always put things so well, with such passion. I love reading your posts. Peace of mind is hard to come by I agree. The WHO (ha!) are citing depressive illnesses as being the worst health crisis facing the world in the future.

The show, of course, is fascinating. Especially when you learn to read some of the subtexts.
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Postby MacCruiskeen » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:23 pm

marshwren wrote:
StarmanSkye wrote:Living Bush's third term;

RTFO. :shock:
Shoot me.
Please.
The worst of the sixties would still be 100 times better than the best of today.
Or am I just getting too old to appreciate change for its own sake? Whatever happened to the peace of mind that comes from maturity?
I'm more disgusted and freaked-out outraged than ever. I know, I should probably just munch my popcorn, enjoy the show while waiting for the plot-change that ushers in a glorious, shining ever-after.
But instead, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. On my head. If I'm this shell-shocked before the bombs, what will it be like after?

I shudder ...


Oh, c'on, it's not as bad as you think: it's worse. Not only is Obomb'em Juniors's third term, he's Bubba's third term as well. And given how he's turned health care reform in HillaryCare ver. 2.009, he's her first term as well. As for the other shoe, i got hit too often to bother waiting (or counting) any more...i may not go into that good night with a wimper or a bang; but a vicious retort will suffice...


Well, it's change we can believe in, i.e. none, and nobody ever claimed hope wasn't audacious, i.e. grotesquely foolhardy.

So stop whingeing, Democrat-voters. Nobody lied. The USA got exactly what it voted for*, no more and no less. (That's democracyTM at work.) And because the USA voted for it, the rest of the world has to suffer it, yet again.

Fuck Obama, and fuck anyone who voted for him.

*More of the same, plus empty uplift and a cheesey grin.
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Postby StarmanSkye » Wed Sep 02, 2009 7:48 pm

Hammer of Los:

Man, YOU nailed it:

"You think the Business Plot finally succeeded? A fascist takeover? Headed by Poppy Bush and others, they have effected their coup via diverse means? I mean, weren't Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush all the same crew? And now Obama with his somewhat-opaque past, shall we say. I think maybe he plays ball for the same team. Policy is not allowed to deviate really, is it? I reckon its because hidden groups of people are effecting policy in preparation for various crises to come, some real, some perhaps not so real. Resource wars can only become more fierce as resources dwindle I guess."

Those of us who noticed things were 'off', not what they appeared, intrigued by the bizarre mystery of vaguely sensed strangeness, of cracks in the facade of socialized consensus reality, were driven to study it, going down that rabbit hole where madness, paranoia, terror, horrors and unspeakable foulness cloaked truth, to find a macabre reality staring back, threatening to defile every beautiful joy and gladness we ever saw or felt. Now many truths appear so self-evident it constantly amazes us that so many others don't get-it, they're practically slapping our faces.

With the benefit of hindsight, its obvious what an elaborate hoax has been played on us, the long heirarchy of Presidents since at least Carter and the October Surprise marking the bloodless coup set in motion the covert rule by corporations. We didn't realy have a chance, hundreds of billions in mindwar R&D paid off.

I guess we had our own 'Color Revolution', didn't we? But packaged so cleverly with the most sophisticated Hollywood gimmicks we didn't even see it coming (well, some of 'us' did), tailored to a unique media-saturated dumbed-down audience of disaffected consumers who thought they COULD vote for progressive change. Joke's on us.

Thanks so much for your kind words of praise. I admit was SO unexpected to hear, for some time now I feel I'm barely able to craft a half-ass intelligent, somewhat insightful comment. At least I limit my indulgence! I mean, against some of the posters here I feel like I'm out-of-my-depth, my thoughts are so hard to focus and commit to words its often overwhelming. The bunch here are some of the most profound, articulate critical thinkers I've seen in one place, it's an honor to read their comments.

I think we're all going to be going thru some incredibly difficult times. Re: It's not that bad, it's worse! There IS some fatalistic humor there, something we'll probably have to try to cultivate to endure the road ahead. At least we'll have savvy, courageous company to help keep us strong and centered.

Good regards, stay strong & well!
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