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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:43 am



Good one.
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Postby compared2what? » Fri Sep 11, 2009 3:15 am

marshwren wrote:
compared2what? wrote:
You may be right. But I did some pretty extensive original reporting on this point, the specific details of which I very sadly can't share. However, fwiw, although my primary focus wasn't actually the authenticity or provenance of those documents, but rather one or both of two much more consequential fires that some of the smoke they generate obscures, per the absolutely best impartial due diligence that I had it in me to do:

Practically the only thing about any part of any of the stories in the same general vicinity as those documents that it was possible to say with total confidence was that their provenance and authenticity couldn't and was never going to be established. In fact, to go way, way back into the minutiae of ancient history, it was when I was still just reading the initial fall-out coverage and idly contemplating the possibility that these might simply be facts that were too heavily obscured for any gainful information attached to them to be knowable that I first caught a distant glimpse of what turned into the whole other story that I totally failed to report well enough for it to be, um.....reportable.

I mean, the one doesn't rise or fall on the other. Those dox could be exactly what you say they are, and the thing I was interested in looking at would still be there. Dancing around while it taunted and mocked me for all my numerous inadequacies and failures. Which doesn't exactly put it in very exclusive company, to be honest. That's just show business. So it's not like I have a dog in this hunt, in that regard. They absolutely could be oppo forgeries, for all I know. But I don't know, although I made a serious effort to.

Hence: Really? What makes you certain it was Roger Stone? Because if it was, that would actually have implications that aren't at all evident in the part of the picture I'm familiar with. Which naturally makes it just about the most fascinating thing to me imaginable in the whole wide world. Hope springing eternal and all that. I'd love it if there were a new avenue to explore.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/18/122051/247

Make of it what you will...i'm quite satisfied Stone's fingerprints are all over this (btw: Nydia is the second, trophy wife),


Possibly. I mean, I can see the logic of the argument. But I can also see a weak link in it, in that it accepts the Lucy Ramirez scenario as established fact. And I'm not quite satisfied that it is. However, it's not like my not-quite-satisfaction with the factuality of any of the alternative scenarios is even a zillionth of a zillionth of a degree greater or lesser. Every damn one of them was pristine in its uncomfirmability. It was, like, their single shared feature. Basically, I guess I'm status quo. Can't argue with it, can't argue against it. I genuinely don't know, and I stand by the assertion that as far as I'm aware, no one does. Except for whoever really does, obviously.
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Postby psynapz » Fri Sep 11, 2009 1:14 pm

American Dream wrote:psynapz wrote:
He owns Genesis Communcations Network, does he not?


8bitagent wrote:
One thing thats never been positively answered, is whether
Alex Jones' GCN Genesis Network is the same Genesis Network that
Adnan Kosshoggi formed
...the notorious arms runner-Iran Contra-Jackie O former lover-deep state operative-terror financier of the deep state.


My apologies for a severe case of the stupids on that one. I must've scrolled right past it to post that missive. My bad.
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Postby erosoplier » Fri Sep 11, 2009 10:27 pm

Charlie Sheen Claims Bush Administration Behind 9/11

By Kevin Jess.

Charlie Sheen is appealing to President Barrack Obama to reopen the investigation into the 9/11 attacks and is prompting outrage in the U.S. by suggesting the government was behind the attacks.

Charlie Sheen, the star of TV's Two and Half Men claims that "the official 9/11 story is a fraud" and said the "commission set up to investigate the attacks was a whitewash", reports the Telegraph.

Sheen makes his claims in a fictional interview with President Obama entitled Twenty Minutes with the President [PDF].

He said in the letter that the attacks served "as the pretext for the systematic dismantling of our Constitution and Bill of Rights." He claims the administration of former president George Bush was behind them.
The transcript was published on the website of radio show host Alex Jones, PrisonPlanet.com, two days ahead of Sheen's actual appearance on the show today.

In the letter he says that Osama bin Laden was "working for and with the CIA up until the day of 9/11."

In the transcript Sheen requests a real meeting with Obama.
Mr. Sheen has now followed up on the letter by appearing in a YouTube video asking President Obama to "be on the right side of history" by reopening the investigation into 9/11 reports InfoWars.

In the video, Sheen spotlights several issues often cited by conspiracy theorists such as the collapse of the 47 story WTC 7 that was not hit by a plane but collapsed into its own footprint within 7 seconds, later in the afternoon on September 11 and reports from firefighters, police, first responders and others at ground zero, who all described explosions before the collapse of the twin towers and Building 7.

Sheen concludes by saying, “We want our country back Mr. President, therefore I’m not just calling on you I’m calling on your team, I’m calling on each and every American citizen to wake up, stand up, and demand the truth."
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Postby Sweejak » Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:47 pm

"working for and with the CIA up until the day of 9/11"

If I'm not mistaken that is a direct quote from Sibel Edmunds.
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Postby MinM » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:04 pm

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