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Postby OP ED » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:38 pm

VM wrote:Ted Gunderson, at one point, posted allegations to the web that Kate Dixon and I were the same person. I requested a retraction from both Ted Gunderson and Ken Adachi who re-posted the allegation and who runs the web site Educate-Yourself in support of Gunderson. Gunderson ignored my request, just as he ignored the retraction request of Lt. Col. Michael Aquino, who Gunderson had also posted inaccurate information about earlier.


via AD, on p5 of this thread. in april of last year.

[its pretty hard to be libel towards M Aquino]

not a glowing praise or anything, but i'm primed for these things to jump at me, and anyone who mentions him without pointing out that he is scummy is suspect in my mind. especially if you're comparing your situation to his...
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Postby OP ED » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:42 pm

Virginia McCullough wrote:I do not believe that desertfae is a "victim" and she has not posted any information that she is who she claims to be. The best evidence of this belief is her removal of her so-called birth certificate from the web. I want to add here that desertfae had absoutely NO influence on the re-opening of the cold case file on the Alvarez slayings. However she is attacking people who are putting their lives in danger trying to solve this triple homicide. What she is doing is particpating as an actress in an Alternate Reality Game. She is a low stage puppet reporting to the puppet master and two or three of his minions.


this is directly contradicted by the statements of the police officers themselves in the KESQ story.

Why would she put herself out there like that if she wasnt sure of it?


indeed.
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Postby Percival » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:46 pm

Thanks, definitely makes me wonder about a few things.
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Postby psynapz » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:48 pm

OP ED wrote:not a glowing praise or anything, but i'm primed for these things to jump at me, and anyone who mentions him without pointing out that he is scummy is suspect in my mind. especially if you're comparing your situation to his...

You know, it's never before occurred to me how tasteless it would be to come to, say, Dick Cheney's defense around here even for the sake of being right about a trivial detail. Precisely because it would be trivial. Like Cheney, Aquino is just so damned by the facts that it simply doesn't matter.

Isn't it accurate to assume that a variety of interested parties would be perfecting a variety of niche personas in both mainstream and alternative media so as to wall off debate amongst the educated and aware? The best disinfo is 90% true, of course.

But hopefully we've learned a valuable lesson in treatment of sources, and will afford VM our best efforts at remaining objective.
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Postby OP ED » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:49 pm

re: percy

indeed. it is almost enough for me to reconsider Gunderson even.

[almost]

i still think he has at the least, very questionable judgement, but that happens to many of us who read on these things...

edit: besides the disinfo label isn't an either/or. both of them could have suspect views on things and/or biased opinions.
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Postby Percival » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:57 pm

OP ED wrote:re: percy

indeed. it is almost enough for me to reconsider Gunderson even.

[almost]

i still think he has at the least, very questionable judgement, but that happens to many of us who read on these things...

edit: besides the disinfo label isn't an either/or. both of them could have suspect views on things and/or biased opinions.


It is very difficult to know who is what anymore, everything on the net is so muddied, throw in ARGs and all the hoaxes people make up and its all just very fucked up and difficult for people like us who really do want the truth.
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Postby Percival » Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:58 pm

I have about 15 things going on once right now so forgive my ignorance of the obvious but can you illustrate how this contradicts the police statements since I missed it:

this is directly contradicted by the statements of the police officers themselves in the KESQ story.
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Postby Percival » Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:00 pm

So someone is losing their reputation as we speak, either its Virginia McCullough or Desertfea, one of them is a liar or at the very least misinformed.
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Postby OP ED » Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:06 pm

Percival wrote:I have about 15 things going on once right now so forgive my ignorance of the obvious but can you illustrate how this contradicts the police statements since I missed it:

this is directly contradicted by the statements of the police officers themselves in the KESQ story.


linked from the second page of the other (desertfae) thread:

To help solve a 28 year old murder, Rachel used the internet to contact government insiders and gather documents, posting some of them on her website, www.desertfae.com

The leaked documents she obtained were enough for the Riverside County Sheriff's Cold Case Division to re-open the case early this year.



http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S= ... u191_1_1_4
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Postby Percival » Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:06 pm

Virginia McCullough wrote:
I do not believe that desertfae is a "victim" and she has not posted any information that she is who she claims to be. The best evidence of this belief is her removal of her so-called birth certificate from the web. I want to add here that desertfae had absoutely NO influence on the re-opening of the cold case file on the Alvarez slayings. However she is attacking people who are putting their lives in danger trying to solve this triple homicide. What she is doing is particpating as an actress in an Alternate Reality Game. She is a low stage puppet reporting to the puppet master and two or three of his minions.


Can anyone get ahold of VM and ask her how she knows the above to be true and whether she knows it to be true or is it just her opinion, I think clearing this up would go a long way in helping us all figure out what the fuck is going on here.

VM has obviously painted herself in to a corner with the above statement and she needs to back it up one way or another considering recent events.

Again, in all the years I have read her work I have never known her to just run her mouth for the sake of it, I have always found her to be well informed and willing to document and back up her assertions. So it would be very surprising to me if she was just saying this about desertfea for no good reason.
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Postby Percival » Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:10 pm

OP ED wrote:
Percival wrote:I have about 15 things going on once right now so forgive my ignorance of the obvious but can you illustrate how this contradicts the police statements since I missed it:

this is directly contradicted by the statements of the police officers themselves in the KESQ story.


linked from the second page of the other (desertfae) thread:

To help solve a 28 year old murder, Rachel used the internet to contact government insiders and gather documents, posting some of them on her website, www.desertfae.com

The leaked documents she obtained were enough for the Riverside County Sheriff's Cold Case Division to re-open the case early this year.



http://www.kesq.com/Global/story.asp?S= ... u191_1_1_4


Well in light of this VM has some explaining to do, I think someone needs to take her previous statement about desertfea and add in this story/statement from KESQ and send it to her and see what she has to say for herself. Maybe AD would be kind enough to channel her once again regarding this little problem?

AD?
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Postby OP ED » Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:18 pm

he's too busy. :roll:
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Postby Percival » Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:21 pm

OP ED wrote:he's too busy. :roll:


:lol:
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Postby chiggerbit » Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:23 pm

I think he's a she.
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Postby Percival » Tue Sep 29, 2009 5:41 pm

chiggerbit wrote:I think he's a she.


That might help explain a few things. :lol:
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