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Postby IanEye » Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:49 pm

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Michael Franti and Spearhead come to mind...

Postby dqueue » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:01 pm

Michael Franti and Spearhead come to mind, especially the Stay Human album... good stuff! It definitely carries a positive vibe.
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Postby beeline » Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:11 pm

One of my personal favorites:

The Goats were an alternative hip-hop quartet from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, United States. Their members included rappers Oatie Kato (the frontman), Madd (a.k.a. "the M-A-the-double-D", a.k.a. Maxx), and Swayzack. Madd and Swayzack are Aboriginal Americans, and their concern with Aboriginal causes is reflected in their lyrics.

The Goats held that Christopher Columbus was responsible for genocidal crimes against the Aboriginal inhabitants of pre-colonial America, including the rape of innocent women by his crew. Their fury was expressed in the signature song, "Tricks of the Shade", which contains the lyrics, "Columbus killed more Indians than Hitler killed Jews; but on his birthday you get sales on shoes."

The Goats were artists on Columbia Records / Ruffhouse Records.

They developed a large cult following after the release of two well-respected albums, Tricks Of The Shade (1992) (produced by producer Joe "the Butcher" Nicolo) and No Goats No Glory (1994), on Ruffhouse Records and Columbia Records respectively; both are presently out of print, used copies circulate online and second-hand record shops.

The Goats' political consciousness found them compared to Public Enemy, although they were more playful - devoting a number of songs to singing the praises of marijuana à la Cypress Hill - and certainly less militant (although they did express nominal support for Louis Farrakhan). Where Public Enemy was exclusionary in its Afrocentric perspective, The Goats were not anti-white per se and instead advocated the responsibility of all non-white peoples to stand up for self-determination (including African-Americans and Aboriginals like themselves as well as Latinos and, notably, Asian-Americans, whom they depicted as brothers-in-arms in their struggle, in contrast to the virulent anti-Asian racism of their contemporary Ice Cube).

They used the skits on their first album to criticize then-US President George H.W. Bush and those whom he propped up, including the bourgeoisie and proponents of the redneck mentality. They were very vocal in their support of those who they believed had fallen victim to the racist status quo, including Nelson Mandela, Willie Horton, murdered youth Yusef Hawkins, and especially the imprisoned Aboriginal American activist Leonard Peltier.

Their political affiliation was decidedly more liberal than was fashionable at the time in hip-hop culture. Oatie described himself as an opponent of homophobia in the song "TV Cops" (a position only publicly taken at the time by Ice-T, though they were seconded by Common in 2002 and Kanye West in 2005). Further, their skit "Rovie Wade, the Sword Swallower" and the following track, "Aaah D Yaaa", were pro-choice songs concerned about the possible negative ramifications of a reversal of Roe v. Wade.

The Goats toured with the Cypress Hill, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys and Luscious Jackson.

Tricks of The Shade received positive reviews from critics and fans alike and received some MTV airplay for some videos. Whilst No Goats, No Glory was well-received by fans, some believed that the production was less accomplished than Tricks Of The Shade; more were disappointed that Oatie Kato was no longer a member of the group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goats

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one of the last poets

Postby IanEye » Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:39 pm

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Postby lightningBugout » Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:33 am

"What's robbing a bank compared with founding a bank?" Bertolt Brecht
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Postby elfismiles » Fri Oct 02, 2009 3:34 pm

Does anyone around here remember an NYC ( I think ) band called AD?

They weren't really hip-hop per se. They were a little more hard-core, somewhere between Living Color and Bad Brains.

I used to have a cassette tape of an album of theirs a friend of mine recorded after he saw them live.

I really REALLY wanna find that album but trying to find a band called AD (even by typing in some of the lyrics I remember) has proven futile.

Maybe I can try and recall the lyrics and type them up here if that might help.

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there is something wrong with human nature...

Postby IanEye » Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:29 am

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[url=http://tinyurl.com/ybnjrla]At first glance it would seem that this album only fits into the periphery of what most call 'hip-hop'.
I hadn't listened to this CD in quite a while and it comes across now as a sort of parapolitical House Music.[/url]

[url=http://tinyurl.com/6ku9eu]I guess the greatest common denominator between this and standard hip-hop is Jamaica.
Having the house band for Sugarhill Records laying down rhythms probably doesn't hurt either.[/url]

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Adrian Sherwood does most of the mixing on this album.
Some guy named Paul Oakenfold mans the boards for two tracks, 'Human Nature' and 'Beef (How Low Can You Go)'. I don't know whatever became of him after that....

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Postby BOOGIE66 » Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:31 am

All this talk of conscious/political hip-hop and no one has mentioned Dead Prez??

Jeez :(

Dead Prez are easily some of the best rappers around, yet because of their subject matter they get no radio play etc...

Dead Prez - "They Schools"

Dead Prez - "Propaganda"

Dead Prez - "Know Your Enemy"

Dead Prez - "PolitricKKKs"

Dead Prez - "Police State"

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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:20 pm

Canibus - Secrets Amongst Cosmonauts

"I've come to learn that the Cosmonauts up high
Don't believe that we deserve another chance and I'll tell you why
We watch either other die, and we're still racist
Not in my household, but in other places
The patience of the Gods have run thin
Because of your sin, the period of purification will begin

[Chorus]

[Canibus]
The procession will wash away
The world's sins with Tsunami's and Whirlwinds
Our world ends, but then it begins again
Six-thousand four-hundred eighty years later
The next civilization will dig our artifacts out of a crater
They will say that we were great but that they are greater
Humankind will continue to search for his creator
Wage war against the forces that try to enslave us
Send space probes to our celestial neighbours
We could stop the hatred; if we stop being racist
I believe the Cosmonauts will come down and save us
If humankind will accept all races
There's no reason that the Cosmonauts wouldn't save us
Love your neighbours; we're different, but God made us
Love all races, the Cosmonauts would love to save us
Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth (B.I.B.L.E.)
Wake up, stop the hatred, the Cosmonauts wanna save us"
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Second Coming

Postby IanEye » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:58 pm

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Upon the project pavement
There was death - enslavement of the mind
Single mothers are filled with stress

As I lay there with my baby
We would look from the window and cry
Then the Wu-Tang sign appears - in the sky

Between the new world ages
We were blessed - and Wu-Tang fills the ear
With the knowledge that Gods possess

False MC's are melting in the dark
All the weak LP's are going down

God released the tape out - early May

And I don't think the world can take it
Cause it took so long to make it
And the hip-hop game'll never be the saammmmme...


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Postby Joe Hillshoist » Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:32 pm

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGs8NKkXB2I]I'm a Starship Trooper
This is my letter to dad, transferred from Saigon to Baghdad
And now I'm dead
An allied soldier, with skin boils from Ebola
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Postby illogik » Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:04 am

great time to introduce myself, illogik of raised fist collective, out of southern ontario. along with testament from london ont, bringing some serious radical content with our rhymes.

can check some earlier stuff our at:

http://www.myspace.com/illtothalogik

from who r we:

you and me are the ones we're all shining suns
united by the one verse that the tongue
of god creates when sung from the lungs
from the depths of breath is where it all begun

what i'm sayin is that we're all connected
that's why all creatures must be respected
everything's a reflection represented
we're all god's creation manifested

a sensation housed in the temple
the physical spiritual and the mental
fundamental to balance yourself
detrimental ignoring your health

and how we're controlled no knowledge of self
better know the days we're in get them books off the shelf
the clock is ticking we're approaching the twelfth
hour the power is ours reality is felt


who are you? who are you you're the world yes it's true
who am i? i'm the sky that's no lie
who are we we're the ones who could see
who are we we're the ones who could be
the people who gonna set free
the world bring equality
a life built on quality it's easy to see
you and me are the ones





nice to have found this spot, i was over on gnn, and it's nearing demise had me looking for a new spot.

namaste everybody.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:22 am

^^Whether or not you were aware of the established emcee Illogic out of Ohio, you really should have been. Due dilligence is a big part of hip hop culture and changing a letter does not count for much.

That said, there were a ton of Thunder Bay kids in Montreal ciphers and shows back in 00-02, they definitely repped harder than most areas of Canada (except Vancouver, but I was always baffled as to why Vancouver kids would ever...leave Vancouver).
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Postby American Dream » Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:35 am

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Postby §ê¢rꆧ » Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:28 pm

Roy Shivers is just ... sick.. Worth checking out. He seems like someone who would post on RI, no lie. Check it out. Sure to offend someone, but not in the usual way.

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My music is like eating a pound of mescaline with David Icke. My verses are binoculars for the apocalypse. The album is a one man mission to save humanity.

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Oh, and yeah, the reason i sound this good isn't just because I shoot up with horse tranquilizers...praise due to the New Age cult that is currently programming me as a Manchurian candidate designed to kill Tom Arnold.

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I rap for the kids who got beat up in high school. Most of my time is spent in a haze trying to find my keys. Shadow government MIB's drop poison in my soy milk. Bilderberg agents plant microchips in my ass. Vatican assassins fry me with psychotronic weapons. Luckily, I protect myself with crystals and rub-on tatoos. I run the suburbs with an iron fist, so don't get it twisted. or I will order my cleaning lady to kill you.
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