Hip Hop and Conspiracy Theory

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Postby IanEye » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:40 pm

JackRiddler wrote:.
I doubt one could be more efficient (or rhythmic) in writing a capsule sociology of the drug war.


A street kid gets arrested - gonna do some time
He'll get out three years from now - just to commit more crime
A businessman is caught - with twentyfour kilos
He's out on bail and out of jail
And that's the way it goes...
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Postby lightningBugout » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:59 pm

JackRiddler wrote:.

Anyway, even if the lines about CIA inspire defensive labeling in polite Beltway society, my point about "Peruvian Cocaine" stands: I doubt one could be more efficient (or rhythmic) in writing a capsule sociology of the drug war.

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Wholly agreed. I just don't see how conspiracy "theory" and sociology are mutually exclusive.
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Postby JackRiddler » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:20 pm

lightningBugout wrote:
JackRiddler wrote:.

Anyway, even if the lines about CIA inspire defensive labeling in polite Beltway society, my point about "Peruvian Cocaine" stands: I doubt one could be more efficient (or rhythmic) in writing a capsule sociology of the drug war.

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Wholly agreed. I just don't see how conspiracy "theory" and sociology are mutually exclusive.


They're not at all, if we take the words at face value. But as you know a very narrow, detailed, mystified, polarizing and negative set of connotations has been attached to conspiracy "theory," one applied not only by its deniers, but encouraged by many self-proclaimed conspiracy theory practitioners who welcome the resulting false dichotomies and enemy images. "Peruvian Cocaine" is not only about machinations or master plans but actors responding, usually without moral sense, to their perceived interests within a larger system of inducements and penalties that none of them actually created in the first place. Damn, wish that last sentence came with beats, rhymes and images.


Ian: No objections, there's room on the mirror.

Get higher baby... get higher baby... get higher baby... AND YOU'LL NEVER COME DOWN!

(da dum da dum da dum da dumm, da dum da dum da da... oooh bass)
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Postby IanEye » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:54 pm

sorry! I couldn't resist.

The cavernous bass, the DeLorean references, the sniffing, that song has it all.

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Athletes rejected - governors corrected
Gangsters, thugs and smugglers are thoroughly respected
The money gets divided - The women get excited
Now I'm broke and it's no joke
It's hard as hell to fight it, don't buy it!
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Postby thurnundtaxis » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:13 pm

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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE5DwGkuu6k]Cocaine business controls America
Ganja business controls America
KRS-One come to start some hysteria
Illegal Business controls America

One afternoon around eleven o'clock
It was freezing cold
He was standing on the block
Sellin' cheeba
Mixin' dimes
Sayin' a rhyme
Just to pass the time
The cops passed by
But he stayed calm
'Cause the leather trench coat
Was keepin' him warm
But this time they walked by real slowly
He thought to himself
They look like they know me
They drove away
But he didn't stay
He jumped in the cab
And he paid his tab
But guess who he saw
When he hit the block
It was the same cop car
The same two cops
They jumped out quick
They pulled a gun
They said, "Don't try to fight
And don't try to run
Cooperate and we will be your friend
Non-cooperation will be your end"
He jumped in the car
And wile they rode
They ran down the list of things he owed
They said you owe us some money
You owe us some product
'Cause you could be right
In the river tied up
He thought for a second and he said
"What is this?
You want me to pay you
To stay in business?"
They said, "That's right, or you go to prison
'Cause nobody out there is really gonna listen
To a hood," so he said, "Good
I'll pay you off for the whole neighborhood"
Because

Cocaine business controls America
Ganja business controls America
KRS-One come to start some hysteria
Illegal Business controls America
(What can we get for sixty-three cents?)

A guy named Jack is selling crack
The community doesn't want him back
He sells at work
He sells in schools
He's not stupid, the cops are the fools
'Cause everyone else
Seems to go to jail
But when it comes to Jack
The cops just fail.
They can't arrest him
They cannot stop him.
'Cause even in jail
The bail unlocks him
So here is the deal
And here is the facts
If you ever wonder why
They can't stop crack
The police department
Is like a crew
It does whatever they want to do
In society you have illegal and legal
We need both to make things equal
So legal is tobacco
Illegal is speed
Legal is aspirin
Illegal is weed
Crack is illegal, cause they cannot stop ya
But cocaine is legal if its owned by a doctor
Everything you do in private is illegal
Everything's legal if they government can see you
Don't get me wrong
America is great place to live
But listen to the knowledge I give

Cocaine business controls America
Ganja business controls America
KRS-One come to start some hysteria
Illegal Business controls America

Illegal Business controls America
What can we get for sixty-three cents?
What can we get for sixty-three cents?
What can we get for sixty-three cents?
KRS-One comes to start some hysteria
What what what what
What can we get for sixty-three cents

Cocaine business controls America
Ganja business controls America
KRS-One come to start some hysteria
Illegal Business controls America

Yeah, illegal business controls America
(What can we get for sixty-three cents?)
Yeah, KRS-One comes to start some hysteria
(What can we get for sixty-three cents?)
Yeah, BDP takin' over America
(What can we get for sixty-three cents?)
Ganja business controls America
(What can we get for sixty-three cents?)
Cocaine, sensi, aspirin, coffee, morphine, sugar, tobacco
Got to go
(What what what what can we get?)
Illegal business controls America
(What what what can we get?)
Yeaaah (what what what what?)
Ganja business controls America
(What what what can we get for sixty-three cents?)
Yeaaah, cocaine business controls America
(What what what what can we get?)
Illegal business controls America
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Postby JackRiddler » Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:44 am

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What does the sixty-three cents mean?
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Postby vince » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:26 am

What ever happened to Consolidated?
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Postby JackRiddler » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:00 pm

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Consolidated? Had a tape, saw'em once in Berlin at SO36 as a lead-in to Chumbawamba! All I remember is the Yeastie Girls insert song, "You suck."
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Postby beeline » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:14 pm

JackRiddler wrote:.

What does the sixty-three cents mean?


It's a sample, I'm not sure from where, but I assume, given the context of the song, the speaker is attempting to purchase some type of illegal drug.
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Postby illogik » Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:47 am

ohhh yea i started using the name years ago before i knew about illogic. it kinda stuck and most people in southern ontario know me by that, so i just stick with it. aka kim jong ILL

hey EG thanks for linking me up here, great board and discussions.

as for drug war, dead prez the white house is the rock house

from the cradle to grave to the crack house
should we blame it on whitey or the white house
they wanna wipe us out with chemical war
don't act like they wont do it they did it before
look at china with the opium war
comeon now how you think niggas in the hood get colombian raw?
when we hungry and poor CIA selling crack out the back door
lying on the platform got us in a warzone the ghetto is the frontline
trying to make a dollar bill hustling these nickels and dimes
nigga their justice is blind got us stuck on the grind
the whole system is disorganized government crime
the judges need to be locked up and hung by their robes
if the hood could be the jury and the truth exposed we would say

the white house is the rock house
and uncle sam is the number one pusher man

right or wrong we way fuck the law
cuz their law wasn't meant for us ghetto prisoners
right or wrong we say fuck the law
cuz the real criminal is sitting up in the white house right now

GANGSTA revolutionary but GANGSTA




love that track, wish they pushed it harder offa turn off the radio vol II
you and me are the ones we're all shining suns/united by the one verse that the tongue/of god creates when sung from the lungs/from the depths of breath is where it all begun
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Postby FreeLancer » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:42 pm

The only thing Jay-Z is illuminated in is selling records. I mean gimme a break! And I wouldn't even call what he does Hip-Hop.
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Postby JackRiddler » Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:00 pm

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I get it, 63 cents is all that's left and yet he still has the wishful delusion he can get something for it.
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Postby IanEye » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:37 pm

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Re: Hip Hop and Conspiracy Theory

Postby MinM » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:05 pm

Image @disinfo: Is Jay-Z Working for the #NSA? http://goo.gl/fb/VqDGe #news #internet #jayz #music #privacy #socialmedia

Image @RyanJNewYork: Jay-Z is getting slammed for the spam/malware app he wanted his fans to use. Pays to hire a non-scam digital firm: http://www.businessweek.com/articles/20 ... riends-dot

Wombaticus Rex » Tue Sep 29, 2009 11:13 pm wrote:Image

Welcome to the reality tunnel I spend every day in: hip hop is literally my life now.

I was once one of y'all...and in any meaningful sense I still am. Nobody here is a cynical weirdo first and foremost. Even Hugh has a day job.

Here in the hip hop headspace, we've got Prodigy, who built his career rapping about robbery and murder and is currently in prison. He's also big into Malachi York and has a very Icke-informed reading on the NWO. He's been very vocally accusing his rival Jay-Z of being a mason, if not Illuminati, and being a Satanist. Jay-Z, who is very rich, sleeping with Beyonce Knowles and not currently in prison, does admittedly fuck with people by doing...well, stuff like this:

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His triangular pyramid hand sign doesn't help, and Jay has, after all, named his label after the Rockefeller family. Although hip hop conspiracy theory is mostly a Jeff Rense mish-mash, I think RI heads would dig a trip through another perspective -- here's a run down of the "occult symbolism" in a recent Jay-Z video, which sucked by Masonic decree, like always.

http://justgetthere.us/blog/archives/Ja ... tions.html

(ENJOY.)

Here's Prodigy's own take on his awakening:

http://www.urb.com/permalink/3989/Prodi ... Moment-of-

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It's a long game, from any perspective, and the past never goes away for a second.

Conspiracy theory has always been fodder for lyrics, though...there's a group called the Lost Children of Babylon who are also followers of Malachi York and make hilariously bad albums. Jedi Mind Tricks started out on the same frequency, but settled for teenage superviolence anthems and fake Islam...my personal favorite was always Non-Phixion, though. Unlike most mammals, cocaine made them quieter and more aware. They were more cynical, more funny, and not surprisingly way better rappers than...well, most humans.

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On Monday night, the entire Rhymesayers tour bus -- Brother Ali, Evidence, BK One and the crew for the Fresh Air tour they're doing right now -- saw a huge UFO over Colorado...and talked about it on Twitter. The future is now, huh?

It's been entertaining seeing RI memes floating through the lens of my lil' music career.

Maybe in another decade they'll discover Jacques Vallee.

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Re: Hip Hop and Conspiracy Theory

Postby ShinShinKid » Mon Jul 08, 2013 12:11 pm

Has this been posted yet?

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