Coincidence Theorist's Guide to Ritual Abuse / Mind Control

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[elfismiles]

B-U-M-P

Woman claims to be Tahoe girl kidnapped 18 years ago
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... hp?t=24952

FMSF-style Attack on Mind Control Conference
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... hp?t=24951

Fox Network Dollhouse Show - Hip MKULTRA
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... hp?t=22346

[LilyPatToo]

People who claim "it all began with Sybil or 3 Faces of Eve" drive me nuts. A person can be multiple for most of their lives before figuring out WTF's gone on in their lives since childhood. The reason for low reported cases is, I suspect, simply a function of ignorance. The only thing that "began" with films about MPD/DID was people finding out about this personality disorder--what it was called and how to know if you have it.

Many multiples never hear voices at all. They may have "missing time"--blank periods of time for which they have no memory at all--but most hide that problem, fearing incarceration in a mental hospital if anyone finds out. And if the person's abuse is on-going and family members and/or close "friends" happen to be "handling" them, those missing hours are explained away. They're labeled a flake or a space cadet and outsiders are told to pay no attention to them...which also adds to the invalidation used to diminish the slave's self-esteem. They're sometimes discouraged from wearing watches in order to keep them unaccustomed to paying attention to time and much less likely to notice the lost time.

Until an outsider happens to interact with other alters and confront the person, they usually have no idea what they've done during the missing time. Some fall prey to a popular disinfo strategy that convinces them that they're "special" and are being "abducted by aliens" during the chunks of missing time. They're special alright--they're trauma survivors whose completely unconscious response was to "leave" during abuse and to wall off those memories. They're highly dissociative.

MPD/DID did not come from the entertainment industry, but some key disinformation is being disseminated by it to keep the ones who've been messed with by the mind control programs from waking up to what they are.

Had to get that off my chest. The FMSF bunch have done so much damage to the slow movement toward parity for this particular disorder. And so do the self-described "skeptics" among psychologists who are in denial about the reality of DID/MPD. It's very frustrating.

LilyPat

[elfismiles]

Is anyone carrying the ball on this thread's idea?

[American Dream]

This sounds like a job for:

[Oyeboten]

A person seeking aid or relief and memory-retreival for what they feel to have be a legacy of supression and trauma from possible Ritual Abuse, MKUltra, Mind-Control, or, UFO related events of childhood or since...


How would that person elect a savvy Therapist, or Hypnotic-Therapist, without running the risk that the Psychiatrist/Psychologist, is not in some way affiliated with, or part of the scheme, and, poised to manage damage-controll for their intersts, and, to favor the interests of their covert allegience, over the interests of the Patient?

[elfismiles]

[elfismiles]

[lightningBugout]

Sorry I dropped the ball. On it again starting now!

[lightningBugout]

The Matrix is the new Exorcist...

Like the satanic-themed horror movies that caused the collective delusion of occult crime and Ritual Abuse during the 1980s, the remarkable upsurge in individuals believing themselves to be Mind Control survivors is similarly being caused by the plethora of major films and television shows with plots structured around MK Ultra and Mind Control. It is worth noting the particularly extraordinary coincidence that the author of the Exorcist, William Blattty worked in Psy-Ops for the US Air Force. Remarkable.

the ontology of Snuff films
Even though convicted pedophiles have been caught with home-made snuff-films (http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Artic ... 46,00.html), and these seizures have been reported in oneof the world's pre-eminent newspapers along with M5 wire-tap transcripts detailing a conversation between one film's buyer and seller, leaping to the conclusion that snuff films "exist" is staggering and hysterical.

Statistical Outliers
The following never happened and if they did they form no pattern but are scientifically anomalous:

Hosanna
Mineola Swingers Club
Mia, a girl covered by CBS in early 2009 who had been ritually abused in a satanic fashion as an infant:

Mia's abuse was discovered after her father killed her baby sister. Mia had been abused since she was born.

"She drew biting monsters. She drew naked women lying in pools of blood - the most ghastly pictures you can imagine a three-and-a-half year old drawing," said Dr. Lenore Terr, a child psychiatrist.

there is no deep state abuse, duh
It is preposterous to assume any connection between the archaic policies of defense contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan regarding sexual abuse and any facet of the larger military industrial complex.

Further, any similarity between the forms of torture practiced at Abu Ghraib and the reports of RA/MC survivors is tenuous at best. As we know, the CIA feels guilty when they so much as blow cigar smoke in a detainee's face.

s/m as model for RA
The fact that every single form of torture experience reported by RA survivors can be located in its adult consensual form on SM social networking sites (mind control, breeding, being locked in a coffin, etc) speaks only to the role of these practices within the collective unconscious. The fact that many SM practioners build and hide their own "dungeons" within their homes in nice suburban neighborhoods does not provide a logistical model for how an RA perp could hide his own torture chamber and lifestyle within his nice suburban neighborhood. In fact, even pointing this out is an egregious and moralistic assault on what adult S/M practitioners do in their free time.

cyber warfare
Various attacks on the server housing the Extreme Abuse survey are rote and unremarkable. Additionally, the existence of above-ground child-sex advocates with extensive instructions on how to win cyber-disputes and affect online discourse surround child abuse is entirely unrelated to the dearth of reputable information about such issues on Wikipedia. The fact that one prominent WP editor who blocks the non-FMSF position on CSA maintains, on his personal website, a list of famous "inter-generational" relationships categorized by number of years is a harmless coincidence.

[DeltaDawn]

please be patient, newbie here just catching up on thread that totally freaked me out!!!!

Stephen, you speak of coincidences?? How many can one have in a lifetime, that doesn't maybe think it's something else?? Your references to scientology, scare the hell out of me, my father for many years tried to entice me, I was always....no I don't think so! The info on Mary Kay LeTourneau has always been a subject that upset me, and what you have stated will have to be researched...Wow, scary!!! OMG you mentioned Jeanne Dixon who was always a subject mentioned when being a child, and who ALways scared the hell out of me!!!!

Can't remember who spoke of this, but once when in military I was 'date raped' before that term became a reality and was so disturbed that the 'boy' said, bet when you were a child, you had long red hair!!! How would he have known??? By that time my hair had turned dark auburn and was short from being military???? One of those things that always bothered me!!!

Yes, LBO, wouldn't you have to be paranoid to assume there is 'something behind' FMS???? Yeah right, it's what they want you to believe..welllll label me 'paranoid'!!

Lily, I finally heard from you something I've wanted to state......MPD sounds like Sybil who didn't know her other 'alters', they did things she wasn't aware of and she had no clue who they were!!! Not sure it's that way with MC victims, "I" know the others, know there is lost time when they come around, but 'know' when they have invaded my life and time???? DID sounds a little more like what I experience, but know my 'alters', know what they are the strongest in my life (each has a purpose), know when they are needed, just don't relate to them as I do my 'alpha' personality. It's not as 'crazy' as the movie Sybil....anyone know what I mean?????

EXactly oyeboton......

Sorry for being so far behind on this site, be patient please!!! What a relief to find (finally) people who 'get it'!!!!!!

[lightningBugout]

Bump

[DeltaDawn]

Thanks LBO for bumping this!

I once had a MC friend who always asked, how many coincidences can there be in life before you start believing they are consequences?? When starting my study of MC/RA survival it was discovered many victims say this. Of course I believe in coincidences but how many can one live in a day/week/month's time?

With this said, I believe that FMSF came about as a consequence when victims started to realize they had so much coincidences in their lives because of trauma induced DID.

When therapists like Valerie Wolfe started speaking up for patients, there was no choice but for certain 'elite' to come up with Something to discredit the truth being exposed!! Victims were to be institutionalized or drugged as Sybil was, they were not to tell their stories!!

Victims were to believe they were a little crazy and had more than one personality. When discovering they only had the self preservation and ability to disassociate??..then MPD/DID became synonomous.

Coincidence = Consequence?
MPD = DID?
False Memory = Trauma Remembered?

Idk...any thoughts?

[stillrobertpaulsen]

Could someone show me how to make a word or phrase hypertext, so that when you clicked on it you would go directly to the source article, like in wintler's post? I can't seem to figure out how to do it using the message board tools.

bks, say you've written, for example, "Agent Skinner can eat my shorts." and you now want to hyperlink that whole sentence to the 9/11 page at DU (http://www.democraticunderground.com/di ... &forum=125).

To do so, simply mark the whole sentence and then click on the box marked "URL", on the far right, directly above this text-window.

Now the sentence looks like this:

[url]Agent Skinner can eat my shorts.[/url]

Now you insert an = sign immediately after the first "url":

[url]Agent Skinner can eat my shorts.[/url]

Now you insert the appropriate web address immediately after the = sign:

[url=http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=125]

If you've left no gaps, the whole sentence must now form a hyperlink to that DU 9/11 page, thus:

Agent Skinner can eat my shorts.

Now you have a hyperlinked text, and readers can discover with a single click precisely why Agent Skinner can eat your shorts.

Thanks MacCruiskeen! I was always uncertain of how to do this. I wanted to kick this up for that and also to get more responses. I've always found this subject fascinating, but my understanding of it is limited to what I've read about it theoretically in The Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy by William Turner and Jonn Christian. That might be an interesting sub-topic to explore the coincidences.