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Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:20 pm

Trifecta wrote:it is probably a combo of a CNN story Pancake in a can sells $15m.
.....

Oh, so CNN viral markets a keyword.
And who is CNN? Right.

Marketing! That's how most psyops is distributed. By good old cross-marketing.
Pancake collapse theory KWH FAIL.


You just gave me support, not the opposite.
Yahoo inserts fakes and other perps drive real results or create cover for those insertions.

CIA-CNN hyped this 12/23/09 and again 1/01/10.

Great 9/11 WTC headline, too.
"...Blaster makes millions from pancakes..."
Makes me think of Larry Silverstein.
Maybe enjoying his silver dollar pancakes. :P

money.cnn.com/2009/12/23/smallbusiness/batter_blaster.fsb/index.htm
Batter Blaster makes millions from pancakes-in-a-can - Jan. 1, 2010
"Publicity stunts, social networking, and the convenience of the product have turned Batter Blaster into a bestseller."
CIA runs mainstream media since WWII:
news rooms, movies/TV, publishing
...
Disney is CIA for kidz!
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Postby Trifecta » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:32 pm

HMW you have become a sad parody of yourself

Get some fresh air friend, find some perspective and focus on the parts of your theories which are correct, the bigger picture is far more interesting in terms of the manifest mind control perpetrated on the masses.

Shifts in nuances are the battle ground for indoctrination, not individual keywords, although they form part of the nuance.

Focus more on the metadata, when you have found perspective.
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:41 pm

Hugh, I did a screenshot of the results and hosted the image on one of my blogs. Click on the link to the Google Trends results to see the exact same image.
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Postby jingofever » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:54 pm

Wombaticus Rex wrote:Hugh, I did a screenshot of the results and hosted the image on one of my blogs. Click on the link to the Google Trends results to see the exact same image.


He probably wasn't logged in so didn't see the numbers and other additional data.
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Postby Uncle $cam » Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:04 pm

AAAnd we're off!

Anyway, I looked up the 'PR' firm, and it's Strategic Communication Laboratories I wrote about them back in 06 here:

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2006/03/bo ... #c14823441

Strategic Communication Laboratories has pioneered a new methodology to enable governments and countries to manage their relationships with their key audience groups through more powerful communication.

In a world where the perception is the reality, all countries need to have the capability to manage their own perceptual alignment – otherwise someone else will.


A direct quote from the website of Strategic Communication Laboratories, a London based company that offers "the most powerful weapon in the world", the ability to manage every aspect of a conflict from one operation centre.

Take a look around their website and witness sickening quote after quote explaining how their vision is to allow the total control of citizens by their government or their military, to keep it that way, and to facilitate conflicts with and the takeover of other countries and the execution of total control over their citizens.

The idea put across by SCL is that if you can control the perceptions people have of reality, then you can control reality itself.

it is a tight rope walk in distinction.

George Orwell was right on the money when he envisaged the coming 21st century as a battle based on the PERCEPTION of reality. in 1984, his classic warning to the world, Orwell told us that we would have to face this threat:

The Party said that Oceania had never been in alliance with Eurasia. He, Winston Smith, knew that Oceania had been in alliance with Eurasia as short a time as four years ago. But where did that knowledge exist? Only in his own consciousness, which in any case must soon be annihilated. And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed -if all records told the same tale -- then the lie passed into history and became truth.

'Who controls the past,' ran the Party slogan, 'controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.' And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. 'Reality control', they called it: in Newspeak, 'doublethink'.
- George Orwell, 1984, Chapter 3 (1948)

SCL's vision is no different from the constructed artificial reality designed to house the minds of the human race portrayed in the feature film The Matrix. If you present all the people with a fabricated collective illusion of reality, and enough meaningless distractions, they may stop questioning that reality when things don't seem to add up.

Someone please pinch me and tell me this is a hoax, otherwise, I want my mommeeeee!
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Postby Wombaticus Rex » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:28 am

From the 1977 disinformation manual Cosmic Trigger Volume 1 the admitted Illuminati agent Robert Anton Wilson offered this implanted narrative, significantly on page 11 of the book:

Joseph Simonton of Eagle River, Wisonsin, claims that a flying saucer landed in his backyard ony day and an extra-terrestrial got out and gave him some pancakes.

There were no other witnesses to this remarkable occurrence, so it is certainly tempting to say that Simonton must have been hallucinating . There is no reason to think that he was consciously perpetrating a hoax, however. He has not tried to commercialize on his encounter in any way and seems to be baffled by the whole experience, just as you would be.

Dr. J Allen Hynek, a skeptical astronomer, who explained other UFOs as "swamp gas," was sent by the Air Force to investigate the Simonton mindfuck. Dr. Hynek took some of the damnable pancakes to the Dayton Air Force Base, where the UFO investigation is headquartered, and scientists there determined that the pancakes were perfectly normal and contained nutritious wheat germ, perhaps indicating that the space brothers are Ralph Nader fans. Dr. Hynek himself says he thinks that Simonton was telling the truth, i.e., he believed his own experience.


NLP anchor points in bold....Wilson was also a self-confessed ringleader of a decades long program called Operation Mindfuck. I wonder if Hugh sees the real Fnords sometimes, but mostly I love the guy.
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Postby barracuda » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:33 am

I always wondered about those pancakes of Simonton's:

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What's with the little holes in them? Have you ever seen a pancake as thin and stiff as that? It looks more like a cookie than a pancake, or I don't know what.
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Postby DeltaDawn » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:42 am

Dawn's 'delta' mind flashed back to 'k rations'...teehee :)
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Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:31 am

I'd venture the spike in searches for Pancake/Waffle recipes towards the end of the year may have something to do with kids being out of schools for the holidays, holiday breakfast specials, etc, etc.

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Pancakes.....yum.

Have you ever seen a pancake as thin and stiff as that?


On Planet X they're called "Woocakes" and made with liquid nitrogen instead of water which makes them thinner. There are no "hotcakes" on Planet X.
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Postby orz » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:19 am

Uncle $cam wrote:Thanks HMW's and I concur...

How can you 'concur' with a simple list of words?

Recently Yahoo moved their 'top 10 searches' box from the bottom of the page to the top right next to the meager headlines offered. Increased visibility for this bandwagon-effect distraction.

Hugh you're probably the last person on the internet still actually looking at the Yahoo front page. :) Get with the times! :)
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Postby orz » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:22 am

Seriously tho stop posting that stupid pancake thing... it's downright embarrassing that you seem to consider it your best example. Plus it's just a reallly terrible piece of graphic design & photoshop; the harm it does artistically far outweighs any uber-tenuous political associations, I don't wanna have to look at it any more.
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Postby Uncle $cam » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:03 am

orz wrote

Uncle $cam wrote:
Thanks HMW's and I concur...



How can you 'concur' with a simple list of words?


Either your reading skills are woefully inadequate, your disingenuous or some other explanation. Hugh's first sentence...


Can you use a search engine and find the science articles on decades of cognitive science used in psyops?


Is what I agree with orz.
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Postby Nordic » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:09 am

> semantic priming
> lexical priming
> masked priming/ N250/ N400
> semantic differential/ Charles E. Osgood
> inoculation theory/ William McGuire
> interference theory/ similarity paradox
> mutual exclusivity
> parasocial interaction
> elaboration likelihood model
> source amnesia
> subliminal framing
> fuzzy logic
> heuristics
> mere exposure effect
> desensitization
> normalization
> conditioning
> non-verbal effects
> psychological operations
> psychological warfare
> counterpropaganda
> countersubversion
> disinformation
> fictionalization
> co-opting/hijacking
> persuasion theories
> memetic engineering


We all know these are real. We are all (probably) keenly interested in these as topics.

But, Hugh, you completely derail yourself with your extremely odd conviction that a movie poster of a guy with his head in a pile of pancakes has ANYTHING to do with any of the above.

This is what drives people to distraction about you, Hugh.

You research this really interesting stuff, then you start seeing the face of Mother Mary in your burned toast.
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Postby Penguin » Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:48 am

Yea, Uncle Scam. Here was some stuff about SCL and Behavioural Dynamics Institute I posted some time back (among other similar firms) -
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... p?p=276636
(Wikipedia bullies at it still)

The Behavioural Dynamics Institute is an academic institute that specialises in understanding influence and persuasion in order to change audiences’ attitudes and behaviour. The institute specialises in applying its methodology to military and political campaigns, where the audiences are hostile or friendly, national or international.

The BDi was formed in 1990 and has invested over £19m in developing scientific approaches for ‘influencing a target audience’. The unique methodology draws extensively from group and social psychology and incorporates semiotics, semantics and many elements of cultural anthropology.

The BDi harnesses the leading academics from universities around the world so
that the ‘persuasion and influence’ body of knowledge is constantly at the cutting edge. Using advanced research techniques, the BDi can accurately diagnose an audience from within (in theatre) or remotely, so that a clear understanding of the group dynamics can be ascertained.

The BDi then develops the most powerful psychological approach (using the data) to produce a programme of communication and ‘perceptions,’ which will be the most likely to engineer the desired result from the Target Audience. The attitude and behavioural changes are highly quantifiable and accountable, generating a real MOE (Measure of Effectiveness) report.

The Behavioural Dynamics Institute can tell you how ‘difficult’ an audience is likely to be, how best to influence the audience and then can actually produce the communications or triggers that will change the audience.
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Postby compared2what? » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:29 am

Penguin wrote:Yea, Uncle Scam. Here was some stuff about SCL and Behavioural Dynamics Institute I posted some time back (among other similar firms) -
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/v ... p?p=276636
(Wikipedia bullies at it still)

The Behavioural Dynamics Institute is an academic institute that specialises in understanding influence and persuasion in order to change audiences’ attitudes and behaviour. The institute specialises in applying its methodology to military and political campaigns, where the audiences are hostile or friendly, national or international.

The BDi was formed in 1990 and has invested over £19m in developing scientific approaches for ‘influencing a target audience’. The unique methodology draws extensively from group and social psychology and incorporates semiotics, semantics and many elements of cultural anthropology.

The BDi harnesses the leading academics from universities around the world so
that the ‘persuasion and influence’ body of knowledge is constantly at the cutting edge. Using advanced research techniques, the BDi can accurately diagnose an audience from within (in theatre) or remotely, so that a clear understanding of the group dynamics can be ascertained.

The BDi then develops the most powerful psychological approach (using the data) to produce a programme of communication and ‘perceptions,’ which will be the most likely to engineer the desired result from the Target Audience. The attitude and behavioural changes are highly quantifiable and accountable, generating a real MOE (Measure of Effectiveness) report.

The Behavioural Dynamics Institute can tell you how ‘difficult’ an audience is likely to be, how best to influence the audience and then can actually produce the communications or triggers that will change the audience.


That's exactly the state of the art, as it long has been, and as it's long well known to have been. With technological upgrades since the days of Edward Bernays. And it's not just used in obviously political contexts. All major media runs to a greater or lesser degree on the techniques above-described.

In fact, when you remind yourself that the text is, after all, a communication that's using the most powerful psychological approach possible to influence your attitude toward what they're describing in a way that's beneficial to them for long enough to shake off the rhetorical hype, you may recall that it used to be called "focus-grouping." It can definitely be and definitely is used both to create and to reinforce a consensus view of such broadly based "truths" as Who We Are and What We Stand For as (MEMBERS OF THE TARGET AUDIENCE HERE).

Which in turn provides the foundation on which all propagandists, psi-operators, and politicians (not to mention corporations that sell stuff) build the various mass-culturally communicated narratives that pretty much everybody alive reflexively accepts in whole or in part as the objective "truths" of the world they live in. And that applies pretty much equally to the default narrative "reality" within which whole cultures and nations of people understand and experience the events of their lives and to the default narrative "reality" within which this or that faction of conspiracy theorists understand and experience the very same events.

Sinister forces, including but not limited to the news media, Disney, and the CIA, do definitely not only manipulate people's perceptions but also fabricate major events that are staged solely or partly for that purpose. Which I've never seen anyone on this board dispute, and don't dispute myself. It's sinister and it very effectively prevents the vast majority of the world's population from living meaningfully free or self-determined lives. I object to and oppose it with all the resources I've got.

The timid lurkers should now avert their eyes while I savagely point out that I've very, very rarely personally flamed Hugh or anyone else.*** Nor have I gone around the board electioneering against him among the RI citizenry at large, for example. Nor have I started threads badjacketing his username out of pure angry spite. Nor have I ever denied that either that psi-ops and propaganda are very real and very damaging.

I apologize in advance for being so childish and thin-skinned that I'm even going to go off-consensus-narrative here. But:

There were numerous posters expressing their disagreements with Hugh in the form of unrestrained vicious personal attacks on a regular basis for years before I even started posting here. As there still are, from time to time. Not too long ago, I called someone out for interrupting a thread on which Hugh and I were strongly disagreeing with each other for doing what I understood at the time to be exactly that. And I'm perfectly willing to name names: professor pan.

I'm now going to go laterally off-topic for two paragraphs. So WARNING: Please skip them if you're in any danger of being driven into a lurking state of silence by their dreadful menace.
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Who also has a tendency to conveniently disappear when he'd otherwise have to admit that he'd been wrong, coincidentally. Because you know what? Hugh's not the only poster who does that. As a matter of fact, Hugh and profpan aren't even the only two posters who do that. I'm only mentioning them by name because I'm certain that I've straightforwardly called both of them for that particular debating foul when it was one to their faces and then moved on. As I may have on other occasions with other posters, too, though I don't make a habit out of it.

Most of the time I just chalk it up to a little extra sensitivity. Everybody has their vulnerabilities. Which I'm sure I don't infallibly perceive and honor, since I'm not infallible, being, you know, human and stuff. But nor do I ever feel that honoring them is any kind of imposition on me when I do perceive them. Because being human and stuff, I can identify.
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Anyway. I just wanted to clarify by restating the same basis for my disagreement with Hugh wrt the list of terms in the OP that I've already repeatedly stated very clearly. It is this:

None of those techniques has been clinically or practically established as making anyone even remotely capable of influencing the attitudes and behaviors of other by embedding cues in popular media and its by-products that look or sound like a commonly referenced component of a totally unrelated news event. There's no evidence of that kind at all that supports the claim that they do. Not when they're contemporaneous with those event, and not when they're years in the past or future.

It's therefore not possible for anyone to use a search engine to discover that I'm full of shit for saying Hugh's flatly wrong to claim that there's so much proof just hanging around out there ubiquitously validating him that it's not even necessary for him to point people who ask him where it is in its direction.

Because it's not there. I say so as a matter of conviction. Because I feel strongly that people are disempowered when they're misinformed about how the world and their own cognition and behavior actually operate.

I'm not proud of that, but I really can't help it. That's just my personality. So please be as sensitive to my irrational freak-out as you can.

Thanks.
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