MI6 Psyops on Moslems

by **antiaristo** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:32 pm

Revealed: MI6 plan to infiltrate extremists Read the letter from the head of the intelligence arm of the Foreign Office here (pdf) Read the memo from the FCO's Islamic issues adviser here (pdf) Martin Bright, home affairs editor Sunday September 4, 2005 The Observer British intelligence officers planned a 'black propaganda' campaign against Islamic extremists, infiltrating their groups through the internet, documents leaked to The Observer reveal. Details of the proposals, contained in a letter from the head of the intelligence arm of the Foreign Office, will cause widespread alarm within government. The letter reveals that the FCO planned to spread anti-Western propaganda as a way of gaining the trust of Islamic extremists and then arguing that violence was not the way forward. Last week, in a separate leak, The Observer revealed that the permanent secretary at the Foreign Office has directly blamed the war in Iraq for a growth of extremism in Britain. The confidential letter from the Foreign Office's top intelligence official, William Ehrman, to the government's security and intelligence co-ordinator, Sir David Omand, dated 23 April 2004, proposed that spies should infiltrate extremist websites posing as radicals and dissuade extremists from taking up arms. His only concerns were that similar operations during the Cold War 'had a mixed record' and that he might not have the linguists and Islamic experts necessary for the job. The letter reveals that Britain's foreign intelligence service, MI6, was already working to 'export' propaganda techniques used by its counterparts in Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Ehrman's high-risk strategy distinguishes between overt diplomacy and covert propaganda. On the one hand, he suggests that diplomats should continue to promote 'messages that will bolster modern Western-orientated currents of thought in Islam'. But behind the scenes he proposed developing 'messages aimed at more radicalised constituencies who are potential recruits to terrorism'. These radicals would not listen to the traditional calls 'for the Middle East to become a zone of peace and prosperity', said the intelligence officer. 'They might, however, listen to religious arguments about the nature of jihad, that, while anti-Western, eschew terrorism.' Officials within the Foreign Office are known to be unhappy about the growing 'Islamisation' of the department and many feel uncomfortable with moves across Whitehall to open up a dialogue with radical Islamists. However, ministers believe it makes sense to engage with the more moderate fringes of political Islam. The policy of engagement with radicals was tested by the bombings of 7 July, but the Home Office and Foreign Office have pressed on with their plans, sources have told The Observer. This includes talking to the likes of Tariq Ramadan, the Geneva-based scholar appointed to a Home Office task force on extremism last week. Ramadan has been refused entry to the US and France in the past because of his alleged extremist views and contacts, but has condemned terrorist attacks on Western targets. The 7 July bombings were a direct challenge to the policy of engagement and have led some critics to suggest it should be abandoned. One former minister said last night: 'The strategic error is to think you can fight hot fire with cooler fire. These people still want to see sharia law extended and find it difficult to handle secularism or gay rights. You need more, genuine political engagement rather than searching for the acceptable face of Islam.' A second document seen by The Observer will further fuel concerns of increasing 'Islamist' influence in the Foreign Office. The memo from Mockbul Ali, the FCO's Islamic issues adviser, recommends allowing the radical Qatari-based cleric Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi into Britain. Qaradawi has consistently supported suicide bombers in Palestine and armed resistance to coalition forces in Iraq. The Observer reported last weekend that the scholar had said that martyrdom was a 'duty' of Muslims in Iraq and Palestine. The memo of 14 July, a week after the London suicide bombings, reveals that the director-general (political) of the Foreign Office, John Sawers, agreed the line to support a visa application from al-Qaradawi. The memo contains the warning that refusing Qaradawi entry could lead to further terrorist attacks. 'Exclusion ... could turn Muslim opinion further against the UK and encourage some to move to violence against British targets.' According to the official, although controversial, Qaradawi's views are mainstream in the Muslim world: 'We certainly do not agree with Qaradawi's views on Israel and Iraq, but we have to recognise that they are not unusual amongst Muslims. 'Refusing entry on these grounds would also open a Pandora's box in relation to entry clearance for others in the Muslim world.' · Read the letter from the head of the intelligence arm of the Foreign Office here (pdf) · Read the memo from the FCO's Islamic issues adviser here (pdf) <a href="http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,6903,1562428,00.html">observer.guardian.co.uk/p...28,00.html</a>

by **antiaristo** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:00 pm

I've only just realised. This leak is in direct response to the so called al Quada 7/7 bombing tape. What that lad did, he did under this programme. The video, and probably the recruiting. Insiders are waking up.

by **slimmouse** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:05 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>British intelligence officers planned a 'black propaganda' campaign against Islamic extremists, infiltrating their groups through the internet, documents leaked to The Observer reveal.<hr></blockquote> Well, of course they did. Which is how they recruited Mo Sidique Khan. Work it out for yourselves. You have a "terrorist cell" controlled by an MI6 asset ( Aswat) who is recruiting the understandably pissed off Muslim community, such as Sidique Khan, who believes hes working for "Al Quaeda" - suggesting that they strike on London on 7/7...........and hey waddya know.........theres Gulyiani, and the boys conducting "coincidental" terror excercises......just like 9/11, and just like OKC Is this the muppet show in real life to those who read the news or what ?

by **antiaristo** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:53 am

slim, Looks like we crossed last night, but came to the same conclusion independently. Here's some more grist. I think it's more evidence that insiders are waking up and talking direct to the people. ======================== Defiant message from bomber was filmed on British soil, claim security services By Kim Sengupta Published: 03 September 2005 A video message recorded by one of the July 7 bombers was almost certainly made in Britain and only recently passed on to al-Qa'ida, security sources say. Officials carrying out forensic analysis of the tape showing Mohammed Sidique Khan believe that it was probably produced about seven months ago. Khan's image on the video is said to be similar to photographs of him taken during that period, which are now in the possession of the police. At that time, Khan had taken time off from his job, as a classroom assistant, because he was suffering from depression. During the same period he was in the process of splitting up from his wife who had complained his personality and lifestyle were changing. Investigators believe that if the videotape was produced during a visit to Pakistan, Khan would most likely have been shown with military paraphernalia. Instead, he is shown in civilian clothing, holding nothing more than a ballpoint pen. Security sources also say that Ayman al-Zawahiri, regarded as Osama bin Laden's deputy, who appears after Khan on the same tape, issued another video on 4 August warning the British people of more impending attacks. In this earlier videotape there was no reference to Khan and al-Zawahiri stopped short of claiming that the London bombings had been carried out by al-Qa'ida. Investigators believe that the video of Khan was smuggled to Pakistan by associates of Khan and passed on to al-Qa'ida. Images of al-Zawahiri were then spliced on to the tape before its release to the al-Jazeera arabic television network. Irshad Hussein, a friend of Khan, said yesterday that it showed him looking very different from the way he was just before the 7 July bombings. Mr Hussein said the tape could have been made as long as a year ago. Khan, 30, who lived in Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, with his wife and 14-month-old daughter, killed himself and six civilians in the Edgware Road bomb and is believed to have been the leader of the 7 July terror cell. In his video message, broadcast for the first time on Thursday night, Khan blamed the British public for the bombings, which claimed the lives of 52 innocent people. He said their support for the Western governments that "continuously perpetuate atrocities" against the Islamic world made them "directly responsible". Khan also declared: "We are at war and I am a soldier." He also warned of further attacks. Khan had visited Pakistan, and possibly Afghanistan, with another of the bombers, Shahzad Tanweer, last year. Police sources say they are "aware" of rumours that another video, made by Tanweer, is imminent. The intelligence service is certain that the two men met Islamist militants at the time, but, they maintain, extensive inquiries since then had not yielded any evidence of direct al-Qa'ida involvement in the London bombings. Rather than being in charge of the London bombings, al-Qa'ida, the investigators believe, is now attempting to capitalise on them. But the very fact that the tape was passed on to al-Qa'ida shows that Khan's associates have international connections. Scotland Yard and MI5 are also re-examining links between Khan and an alleged plot in March 2004 to explode a bus packed with explosives. Eight men were arrested after the discovery of 600lb of ammonium nitrate fertiliser, a potential ingredient for bombs, in a lock-up garage. Details of the case cannot be publicised for legal reasons. Khan was regarded as a peripheral figure in that investigation - his details were found on one of the arrested men - and he was not put under surveillance. Security sources accept that it was a mistake not to have put him under proper scrutiny and that this was a "failure of intelligence".  <a href="http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article309910.ece">news.independent.co.uk/uk...309910.ece</a>

by **rain** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:16 am

where's Anna ? how many martians died this time?

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"failure of intelligence"

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