Michael James Riconosciuto

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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby Dr_Doogie » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:11 am

You are exactly right, c2w? That is why VM and KD's speculations about "problems" with the case are so hilarious (if the consequences weren't so dire). It must be driving them crazy that they are out of the loop and they come here to try and bait Desertfae into providing something, anything, for them to sink their fangs into.
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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby Searcher08 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 12:37 pm

When is Michael Riconoscuito due to be released / paroled?
Is he still being held in solitary?
Has he recovered from his prostate cancer?
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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby Anita » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:27 pm

Searcher08 wrote:When is Michael Riconoscuito due to be released / paroled?
Is he still being held in solitary?
Has he recovered from his prostate cancer?


His release is set for 2017. He's not in solitary right now. The prostate cancer is back and the prison is refusing to treat him.
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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby American Dream » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:36 pm

I wonder how much time he might get off on his sentence, how much time he could get off on his sentence, were he to come through for the Prosecution as a material witness on this and/or if he could get other perks, such as better medical care and/or a transfer...
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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby Searcher08 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 2:52 pm

Anita wrote:
Searcher08 wrote:When is Michael Riconoscuito due to be released / paroled?
Is he still being held in solitary?
Has he recovered from his prostate cancer?


His release is set for 2017. He's not in solitary right now. The prostate cancer is back and the prison is refusing to treat him.


Wow - still a long way off.

Is Michael still banned from using any computers - I seem to remember reading about it on Orlin Grabbe's site that he was banned after speaking with German TV about Promis.
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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby Anita » Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:31 pm

Searcher08 wrote:
Anita wrote:
Searcher08 wrote:When is Michael Riconoscuito due to be released / paroled?
Is he still being held in solitary?
Has he recovered from his prostate cancer?


His release is set for 2017. He's not in solitary right now. The prostate cancer is back and the prison is refusing to treat him.


Wow - still a long way off.

Is Michael still banned from using any computers - I seem to remember reading about it on Orlin Grabbe's site that he was banned after speaking with German TV about Promis.


Yeah, they didn't have much of a sense of humor about that, he's still banned from using computers.
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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby compared2what? » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:48 pm

American Dream wrote:I wonder how much time he might get off on his sentence, how much time he could get off on his sentence, were he to come through for the Prosecution as a material witness on this and/or if he could get other perks, such as better medical care and/or a transfer...



Actually, allowing a prisoner with a potentially terminal illness to have access to better medical care than none is not so much a perk as it is a basic constitutional right, AD. Just FYI.
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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby American Dream » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:56 pm

I don't disagree, and I wouldn't begrudge good medical treatment to anybody, even though the prison system clearly would.

Since Anita Langley said something about "material witness" in the same breath as Riconosciuto's name, I have been wondering if there might be a particular reason that he would be motivated to want to testify in the Jimmy Hughes case. I do think that there are discretionary benefits that can be made available to cooperative prisoners, and I'm guessing he knows this too...
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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby Dr_Doogie » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:43 pm

Riconosciuto has not been shy about speaking his mind on many issues, so I doubt that he would need to be convinced to testify here - if his testimony is deemed necessary by the prosecution. I know nothing about Michael in particular, but I would imagine any prisoner would view any opportunity to get out of jail for a few days as welcome relief. I doubt that Michael would think that he can get a sweet deal from the same justice system that put him behind bars. He certainly was not motivated by a desire to please his jailers by trying to testify in Richard Hamlin's defense, yet he tried to do it anyway.
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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby American Dream » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:03 pm

Hmmm... I can't really say about the Hamlin case in particular but it seems highly doubtful that Michael Riconosciuto is simply a selfless crusader for Truth and Justice...
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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby Dr_Doogie » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:23 pm

American Dream wrote:Hmmm... I can't really say about the Hamlin case in particular but it seems highly doubtful that Michael Riconosciuto is simply a selfless crusader for Truth and Justice...


I cannot speak to the truthfullness of Michael's claims, but AD, can you at least admit the possibility that maybe that is his view of himself?
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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby American Dream » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:43 pm

Anything is possible, but that wouldn't explain his time spent working on making deadly new weapons of mass destruction, the dumping of highly destructive drugs on the public, the dramatic alarms about impending attacks (that never came), the extremely fantastic conspiracy claims presented as authoritative fact etc. etc.

There is cause for concern simply because of his long, long history with highly illegal and highly immoral black ops in general- including but by no means not limited to the Octopus conspiracy. Not to mention the unresolved questions around various allegations concerning murder.

This is supposed to be a selfless crusader for Truth and Justice?

One thing I don't think Michael Riconosciuto is, is dumb- even if he is very good at manipulating other people, I highly doubt that he could fool himself like that.

I think it's much more likely that we're talking about a very cunning sociopath here...
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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby compared2what? » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:48 pm

American Dream wrote:I don't disagree, and I wouldn't begrudge good medical treatment to anybody, even though the prison system clearly would.

Since Anita Langley said something about "material witness" in the same breath as Riconosciuto's name, I have been wondering if there might be a particular reason that he would be motivated to want to testify in the Jimmy Hughes case. I do think that there are discretionary benefits that can be made available to cooperative prisoners, and I'm guessing he knows this too...


Everybody knows it, for pity's sake. It's an arrangement that's been being routinely and openly admitted to in court by whatever inmates were there testifying as a result of having struck such a deal since the year dot. So you don't have to keep tiptoeing around referring of it as if there was something about it that was just too inherently unseemly and disreputable for a person of gentle breeding and background to countenance.

Because: In the extremely remote event that he does testify, I'm absolutely sure that Jimmy Hughes's pricey mobbed-up defense attorney won't forget to ask him what luxurious treats and other bribes the state has agreed to give him in exchange for his testimony. And I'm equally sure that he'll get in as much "Is it true, Mr. Riconosciuto, that this article calls you a manipulative puppetmaster and a liar?"/"Thank you, sir. Do you have any idea what specific low, dishonest and unreliable acts of yours led the authors of that article to form that impression of you?" and so on as the judge decides to allow. So it's really quite unnecessary for you to be as worried as you appear to be at the prospect of his all-powerfully dishonest testimony overpowering the better judgment of the innocent jurors who all unknowingly might be thoroughly bamboozled and taken in by him, due to their never being given the slightest hint to the contrary. That's just not going to happen. Even in the remote event that his testimony does. So please stop distressing yourself over it, okay?

Apart from which, I'm not sure that I even get exactly what high priority of yours it is that you so fear seeing destroyed by R's putative, notional and imaginary testimony at this point, anyway. I mean, assuming that I did correctly understand your previous dissatisfaction du jour, from your perspective, all he'd be destroying would be the prosecution's simple little disappointment of a case against Jimmy Hughes for the murder of another forum member's father. And since you've already made it clear what a let-down to you that is, I don't really see what you've got to be tying yourself in knots over here.

And finally, I guess I didn't express myself as clearly as I intended to in my previous post. So please allow me rephrase:

In my opinion, it's horrifyingly insensitive, inhumane and morally indecent to describe cancer treatments for someone with cancer who's presently incarcerated and being refused said treatments as "a perk." Therefore, I find it objectionable that you described them that way.

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Re: Michael James Riconosciuto

Postby American Dream » Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:03 am

Michael Riconosciuto has spent decades building up a public rep for himself, so I don't think one more thumbnail sketch of that history on the Internet is going to make it or break it for him in court.

Should he get good medical treatment? Of course he should- as should all prisoners, and all people.

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I wouldn't begrudge good medical treatment to anybody, even though the prison system clearly would.
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