Space.com article SUPPORTS Cydonia research

[MaxtheKnife]

Space.com article SUPPORTS Cydonia research...

Sun's Nemesis Pelted Earth with Comets, Study Suggests
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/n ... 00311.html

"A dark object may be lurking near our solar system, occasionally kicking comets in our direction.
Nicknamed "Nemesis" or "The Death Star," this undetected object could be a red or brown dwarf star, or an even darker presence several times the mass of Jupiter."
(See above link for complete article)



Well, well, well... seems like RCH and I may not be so nutz afterall.

For the record... I deem the second graph on this page to be one of the most IMPORTANT bits of information in his book, Dark Mission:


What's REALLY cool is that he doesn't mention in the book what gave him the IDEA to actually PLOT Luminosity vs Angular Momentum.

He left that for some'one' to figure out for himself.

It was the FORT...

Reflectivity = Luminosity
http://www.maxtheknife.com/sassumptions ... ptions.htm
... and, I should add... RCH is a GENIUS for plotting the above graph.

Make no mistake... RCH knew all along...

[barracuda]

I'm glad you post here, Max. But it must be aggravating to see idée fixe of your personal theory in the encyclopedia under the entry for a notorious misperception.



In any case, you are sometimes maddeningly vague about your insights. Can you help me out and connect the dots with regard to the sun's possible brown dwarf binary, the angular momentum of the gas giants and the face on Mars? Pretend you are talking to someone who doesn't understand what you are talking about.

[MaxtheKnife]

Barracuda... forgive me for not copy and pasting my extensive work to this forum. If I did, I would be forced to leave things out which would not be fair to you or the research as it must all be taken in context.

If you're sincere in your request for clarification, the dots are connected here: http://www.maxtheknife.com/sassumptions ... ptions.htm

Also... Pareidolia.. It is a logical fallacy that such a phenomena debunks the Face on Mars. Furthermore, it is NOT a real word, but I won't quibble because I can see it appears to be pressing on your psyche... Please see my most recent paper, Rorschach.

[Simulist]

If you're sincere in your request for clarification, the dots are connected here: http://www.maxtheknife.com/sassumptions ... ptions.htm

C'mon. This is your response to a request for clarification — not even another interpretation of the Cydonia Tap Dance, but a link to a recorded performance?

I must admit that I was initially very interested in Cydonia research, so I kept trying to understand where Richard C. Hoagland's conclusions were coming from. I kept finding myself incapable of getting a real grasp on it, so for a while I supposed that it was just me being dense. But years later now, after realizing that I'm capable of understanding even the subtle explanations of theoretical physicists — you know, when they speak in plain English! — I see two possibilities. Either Hoagland explains his stuff with astounding ineptitude, or he is being intentionally opaque. Since Hoagland isn't a stupid man, the latter seems the most likely explanation.

Richard C. Hoagland's mouth writes checks that his supporting data just can't cash — so, since he can't "dazzle 'em with brilliance," he continually sets about to "baffle 'em with bullshit."

And the scent has become overpowering.

[barracuda]

Barracuda... forgive me for not copy and pasting my extensive work to this forum. If I did, I would be forced to leave things out which would not be fair to you or the research as it must all be taken in context.

If you're sincere in your request for clarification, the dots are connected here: http://www.maxtheknife.com/sassumptions ... ptions.htm

I have looked over your presentation there, but it would save me a great deal of time if you'd simply lift the relevant quote which deals with the nemesis star and angular momentum. I'm afraid I don't have several weeks of time to devote to the issue, but I find that usually even the most difficult scientific concepts can be distilled to a few paragraphs for the lay person's benefit.

Also... Pareidolia.. It is a logical fallacy that such a phenomena debunks the Face on Mars. Furthermore, it is NOT a real word, but I won't quibble because I can see it appears to be pressing on your psyche... Please see my most recent paper, Rorschach.

It really worked the other way around: I was looking up the word in reference to a work of art I was making, and the illustration put me in the mind of your research.

But I don't consider it quibbling - why is it not a real word?

I have any number of issues with your explanation of the mirroring technique. For starters, your statement of your findings as "objectively observed redundant symbolism", seems flawed. Is there really such a thing as objective symbolism?

Also, why do you consistently refer to Cydonia and the face using John 14:6? Is there a esoteric christian component to your findings that I am missing?

[MaxtheKnife]

@ barracuda...

I'm sorry, but I'm not here to "save you a great deal of time".

The material is complicated and interconnected.

As is typical w/ most worth while things there is no short cut.

You want a nutshell... here it is: The geometry underpins the reflections and the reflections underpin the physics model.

For starters, your statement of your findings as "objectively observed redundant symbolism", seems flawed. Is there really such a thing as objective symbolism?

Yes, of course there is such a thing as 'objective symbolism'. I'm not going to waste my time arguing this point of fact. The results, taken in context, speak for themselves.

Also, why do you consistently refer to Cydonia and the face using John 14:6? Is there a esoteric christian component to your findings that I am missing?

First of all... it isn't exactly John 14:6, is it.

Second... no... the componant you're missing isn't exactly 'esoteric'.

You'll have to read Truth & Light to understand.

Again... there are no short cuts, but I'll throw you another 'nutshell' in the interest of 'good faith'.

Cydonia is the PERFECT fusion or convergence of Science & Spirituality. Both of which share the common goal... truth.

It is a LINK to & ORIGIN of ALL our beliefs.

It leaves EVERYONE'S beliefs in tact, while at the same time puts them into their proper perspective.

Cydonia is, in fact, a lesson unto itself.

[82_28]

I like your spunk, Max. But huh?

I agree Cydonia should be studied more extensively. But you are appealing to an authority where I don't think there is one until one comes around. Your sig is what makes me go "huh?" btw.

[MaxtheKnife]

Usually... when something makes me go "huh?", I will learn as much as I can about it.

Call me crazy.

[82_28]

Goro's "Martian Message":

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/ma ... essage.htm

You ain't crazy homeboy. I just don't think anything anywhere, the whole universe over, can be qualitatively known for sure.

[Simulist]

Usually... when something makes me go "huh?", I will learn as much as I can about it.

Me too sometimes. Then, sometimes not.

Huh.jpg

[MaxtheKnife]

Goro's "Martian Message":

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/ma ... essage.htm

I've seen that page before. I think I even sent him an email alerting him to my research. I've not yet received a relpy.

On his page he asks: "So why, we must ask again, have the Martian findings not made the headlines all over the world, as they surely deserve?"

The answer is rather simple albeit hard to swallow due to the vast implications.

See my blog post here: http://maxtheknife.blogspot.com/2010/02 ... ately.html

[82_28]

Check out his "Endgame" series, Max.

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/endgame.htm

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/endgame-2-p1.htm

Funny he never got back to you. He usually gets back to me when I send him a noticed anomaly. I'll check out your site though.

[barracuda]

@ barracuda...

I'm sorry, but I'm not here to "save you a great deal of time".

The material is complicated and interconnected.

As is typical w/ most worth while things there is no short cut.

You want a nutshell... here it is: The geometry underpins the reflections and the reflections underpin the physics model.

Well, if you were a good faith actor it would be nice if you could try and save me a little time, especially if you think this material has some worth. I have heard such complex and diverse subjects as general relativity, quantum physics and a variety of convoluted religious dogmas effectively summed up in a few sentences. I would say it points to a great weakness in your theory or your ability to explain it that you feel I have to wade through information about your relationship with your father in order to "get it". No offense, but I have issues with my folks too. Wanna hear about it? I didn't think so.

So far I have read through six long, complicated articles including a hundred or so illustrations, and I'm really no closer to understanding the thesis of your OP (Nemesis star and gas giants, etc.) than I was when I first looked at your bisected animation in the data dump thread. But if you want to play "button, button, who's got the button" with the meaning of existence, it's likely that I'm not your intended audience.

Yes, of course there is such a thing as 'objective symbolism'. I'm not going to waste my time arguing this point of fact. The results, taken in context, speak for themselves.

I don't really understand. Symbolism is culturally committed and individually attuned. If you won't waste your time why should I? Because you say your material is important, but won't say why? Let me be clear - this is an absolutely fundamental issue regarding your research. Perhaps the ONLY fundamental issue. If you are wrong about the symbolism of the geographical feature, you are wrong about the basic meaning of your research.

First of all... it isn't exactly John 14:6, is it.

Second... no... the componant you're missing isn't exactly 'esoteric'.

You'll have to read Truth & Light to understand.

You say it's not esoteric, but you decline to share it. Instead, you wish to steer traffic to your site. As far as I can tell, so far it fits the definition perfectly: "understood by or meant for only the select few who have special knowledge or interest."

Here's John 14:6 - Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

I guess I'd say to you, "Max, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?"

You have changed a pronoun, presumably substituting the face on Mars for the person of Jesus. This facile heresy could use some explanation.

Again... there are no short cuts, but I'll throw you another 'nutshell' in the interest of 'good faith'.

Cydonia is the PERFECT fusion or convergence of Science & Spirituality. Both of which share the common goal... truth.

It is a LINK to & ORIGIN of ALL our beliefs.

It leaves EVERYONE'S beliefs in tact, while at the same time puts them into their proper perspective.

Cydonia is, in fact, a lesson unto itself.

Let me try and summarise what I think you are driving at, and you can then, if you'd like, again answer me by either with a cryptic series of aphorisms, or by referring me to a lengthy post at your blog.

You believe the Cydonian "plaza" was purposefully and intelligently constructed.

I would ask, by who and for what purpose?

You think there is a message there.

I would ask, what is that message?

On his page he asks: "So why, we must ask again, have the Martian findings not made the headlines all over the world, as they surely deserve?"

The answer is rather simple albeit hard to swallow due to the vast implications.

I will say, if the information is as complicated and the thesis so difficult to state and demonstrate as your work makes it, there is really no chance that it's gonna be a world-changer, or that the vast implications will ever resolve themselves as effects upon the general public. 99.9% of all persons on earth will never get it.

[MaxtheKnife]

Usually... when I don't understand something... I have a bad habit of asking specific questions.

Call me crazy.

But I will answer this very basic question 4 u.

"what is that message?"

There are MANY, but as I state MULTIPLE times throughout my research...

The first one I learned and still deem to be the most profound & significant...

There is truth in the light.

[MaxtheKnife]

Btw... it appears to be too late to edit my inital post, but I should've started w/:
Space.com article SUPPORTS explicit prediction of Cydonia research.

No biggie, though.