The Illuminati X-Factor: mind-controlled showbiz celebs(?)

[dbcooper41]

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what message are they sending?
who created her?

[Username]

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Lady Gaga is first 'billion-view' artist on Youtube

She and her people are brilliant marketers. Maybe they're ex-Obama people.

hmmm . . ."brilliant marketers" . . . yes, which might include setting up bots to continuously click on your videos, making it appear to be more popular than it actually is.

just a thought.

not a gaga fan here.
(makes no sense to me.)
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[Nordic]

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Lady Gaga is first 'billion-view' artist on Youtube

She and her people are brilliant marketers. Maybe they're ex-Obama people.

hmmm . . ."brilliant marketers" . . . yes, which might include setting up bots to continuously click on your videos, making it appear to be more popular than it actually is.

just a thought.

not a gaga fan here.
(makes no sense to me.)
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What a great idea!

You may have a future in plastics, son. I mean marketing.

[82_28]

Agreed barracuda. Very, very odd. It feels like something synonymous to a whole culture's denial of heroin addiction just before they overdose and die.

I don't get this. As best I can understand the parallels, the non-commentary on the pixelated depiction of shaved pussy in a pop music video is to the denial of heroin addiction just before overdose and death (approximately) as the non-outrage at the Ziegfeld Follies' incorporation of near-nudity as a feature of legitimate theatrical entertainment is to the indifference to workplace safety for sweatshop employees just before the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire.

IOW, there are no parallels. In what way does the failure of society to comment on pixelated pussy (shaved, waxed, or au naturel) in a music video provoke you to feel something synonymous to what you'd feel about a culture's denial of the threat posed by a widespread and potentially lethal addiction ?

Another thing. I woke up this morning and it dawned on me that I will never be able to unexperience this Lady Gaga . It kinda drove me nuts and gave me anxiety for awhile.

I feel for you. I too am sometimes genuinely disturbed, frightened depressed or otherwise upset by an encounter with this or that one-hundred-percent fictional event, image, or personality to which I was randomly exposed in the course of voluntarily watching works of commercial mass-media video and/or film entertainment while fully and consciously aware that's what they were.

It kind of drives me nuts and makes me anxious when that happens. In fact, it makes me want to get that shit out of my brain. Happily, I almost always find that it's actually pretty easy to do that simply by turning my attention to the more immediate, engaging or important attention-requiring events of which daily life is made.

To be honest with you, though, if I were so profoundly affected by memories of a pop starlet's video that I found myself thinking and saying that I'd experienced and would never be able to unexperience her -- rather than, say that I'd watched her video and was very troubled by the lasting impression it had made on me -- I'd be grateful to anyone who pointed out that I'd probably get over it more quickly if I were a little more disciplined with myself wrt making ordinary rational distinctions between fantasy and reality.

And I'm not making fun of you or calling you crazy at all, btw. Emotional experience doesn't really take place in a time-space dimension, and it's mostly if not entirely an internal process. So making that distinction isn't always as much of a bright line affair as the enlightenment might have led you to believe. Elisions happen. That's natural and harmless, as long as you're roughly aware of it on some conscious level that does occur in real time and space, as far as I'm concerned.

You just shouldn't have to be so distraught over a pop video. It can't hurt you. You're much more powerful than it is. Please don't wreck your nerves feeling avoidable anguish over it. Life comes with more than enough unavoidable anguish en suite already.

I don't like where any of this is going. It simply will not end well. Let's put it that way.

Again, I simply do not understand what you're saying. What is "this" and where is it going? What would constitute an ending for it? What did constitute its beginning?

I mean, honey, it's a video.

Here's the thing (I like that phrase I guess). I do not appreciate that song, that damned OOH LAHH LAH LAH LAH, GAH GAH GAH GAHahAH song being stuck in my my head when I wake up in the morning. First off, I hate the song. Second off, her persona disturbs me. Third off I don't voluntarily listen to it whatsoever. Yet, there it is! Stuck in my skull for me to mull over, over and over and over again. As I have stated elsewhere, this could be a feature of my OCD. But! I literally want to live in a parallel existence where that song never existed and was always impossible to exist in the first place.

Here is what it ultimately reminds me of. Out of PKD's The Divine Invasion and the character of Linda Fox. A snippet I was able to find follows:

Later, he and Linda Fox went back up on the roof to view the remains of Belial. But to his surprise he saw not the carcass of a wizened goat-thing; instead he saw what looked like the remains of a great luminous kite that had crashed and lay in ruins all across the roof.

Somberly, he and Linda gazed at it as it lay broken everywhere, vast and lovely and destroyed. In pieces, like damaged light.

"This is how he was once," Linda said. "Originally. Before he fell. This was his original shape. We called him the Moth. The Moth that fell slowly, over thousands of years, intersecting the Earth, like a geometrical shape descending stage by stage until nothing remained of its shape."

Herb Asher said, "He was very beautiful."

"He was the morning star," Linda said. "The brightest star in the heavens. And now nothing remains of him but this."

"How he has fallen," Herb Asher said.

"And everything else with him," she said.

Together they went back downstairs to call the city. To have the machine come along to haul the remains away.

"Will he ever be again as he once was?" Herb Asher said.

"Perhaps," she said. "Perhaps we all may be." And then she sang for Herb Asher one of the Dowland songs. It was the song the Fox traditionally sang on Christmas day, for all the planets. The most tender, the most haunting song that she had adapted from John Dowland's lute books.

When the poor cripple by the pool did lie
Full many years in misery and pain,
No sooner he on Christ had set his eye,
But he was well, and comfort came again.

"Thank you," Herb Asher said.

Above them the city machine worked, gathering up the remains of Belial. Gathering together the broken fragments of what had once been light.

[RocketMan]

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what message are they sending?
who created her?

Miscegenation is cool? I can see why some aspects of GaGa are disconcerting but the old-fashioned moralism of the Illuminati-mind-controlled-sock-puppet crowd is a bit tiring sometimes. I'm talking about the hand-wringing about transsexuality, homosexuality and all kinds of sexuality, frankly. For instance.

[AhabsOtherLeg]

I can see why some aspects of GaGa are disconcerting but the old-fashioned moralism of the Illuminati-mind-controlled-sock-puppet crowd is a bit tiring sometimes. I'm talking about the hand-wringing about transsexuality, homosexuality and all kinds of sexuality, frankly.

This is why I prefer Lily Allen. She's just a girl, singing about the real world, and her tights are very nice.

It took David Lynch to turn "In Dreams..." into a psychosexual nightmare, and it hit people's mind's very hard when he did. It wouldn't've worked if either Lynch or Roy Orbison had meant it that way to start with. There's nothing scary about people trying to be scary - and there's nothing weird about people trying to be weird. There is nothing special or extraordinary about Lady Gaga - you are all falling for a gimick that was old in the days of Arthur Brown and his FIRE!

Lily Allen has nice tights on, and a decent song, with some vaguely and usefully perceptive lyrics. Content yourselves:



No one's really suggesting that Stephen Gately had anything to do with MKUltra, are they? Are they? The poor guy huffed a load of poppers and died. Happens to the best of us.

[RocketMan]

This is why I prefer Lily Allen. She's just a girl, singing about the real world, and her tights are very nice.

I like her too, there's something very unaffected about her.

Still, I think Lady GaGa is talented, but I do agree that her schtick is wearing thin. You can only out-shock people so many times.

[surfaceskimmer]

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What a long strange trip it's been.

[JackRiddler]

There's little shocking about Gaga, and at this point it's near impossible to shock using the forms and media she employs. The likes of VC apply a strategically purported shock in order to make their views halfway plausible. Her schtick was thin before she took it up, but most every schtick got thin long ago. What's available to her at this point is the attempt to attract attention by trying to add more layers of meta and irony to forms that, like 1970s exploitation films, lost their inherent shock by 1980 at the latest. To pretend there's some kind of new taboo-breaking here is ridiculous. Back then she would have ventured punk, I guarantee you. This is all a function of the times, and not in her hands, or mine, or yours.

[Skunkboy]

Long strange trip indeed.

[LilyPatToo]

Loved the Lily Allen video--thanks for the link, Ahab. Did anyone else notice the shots of the black & white tiled floor? It's a common image trigger for people who've been subjected to systematized mind control abuse. When I see them in videos or movies (The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus, for a recent example), I always wonder whether the director included the shots because of awareness of mind control associations or simply because they can be so visually stunning...?

Lady Gaga kinda leaves me cold, but I assume that's due to my age and very different preferences in music. This has been an interesting discussion and I'm glad it hasn't degenerated into the kind of thread-killing bickering over the usual "is she? isn't she?" (involved in a mind control program, I mean) that so many similar threads have in the past. I fall somewhere in the middle when it comes to willingness to label celebrities as "program"--definitely not as "sees it everywhere" pattern-obsessed paranoid as pseudoccultmedia, but definitely aware of the use of sexy young celebrities to promote mass mind control memes. What Project Willow has said above about the way that Monarch-associated crap is being used to misdirect the public and to smear and potentially discredit activists really hit home with me. I have no proof that Lady Gaga and her promoters are mindfully collaborating with the Controllers, but I do believe that pop shock video makers often are aiding and abetting the disinfo effort to a degree, whether they realize it or not.

LilyPat

[Joe Hillshoist]

Who's Lady Gaga again?

[Stephen Morgan]

Loved the Lily Allen video--thanks for the link, Ahab. Did anyone else notice the shots of the black & white tiled floor? It's a common image trigger for people who've been subjected to systematized mind control abuse. When I see them in videos or movies (The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus, for a recent example), I always wonder whether the director included the shots because of awareness of mind control associations or simply because they can be so visually stunning

Seen Ashes to Ashes on the BBC? The Police room they work in has black and white squares on both floor, presumably in tiles or lino, and ceiling, with the white squares being lights.

[Peregrine]

I've been curious but haven't been able to make it through even one of her videos. It has nothing to do with my age or whatever because I enjoy all sorts of outrageous things or can at least tolerate them.

Me neither. I can be a fan of the outrageous from time to time, but there is something about anything she puts out, well, off-putting.

[Cordelia]

Did anyone else notice the shots of the black & white tiled floor? It's a common image trigger for people who've been subjected to systematized mind control abuse. When I see them in videos or movies (The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus, for a recent example), I always wonder whether the director included the shots because of awareness of mind control associations or simply because they can be so visually stunning...?LilyPat

Lily, you got me thinking about this because I always notice them too and tend to focus on them. Associated with game boards, mansions of old wealth and as symbols of royalty. I read somewhere that many Masonic temples have black & white tiled floors.