1 in 5 believe aliens walk among us

[Simulist]

Over the past few months, the Internet has been filled with material from a woman who is on a campaign to defame me.

Oh c'mon, Dave. No matter how convincing her allegations, I doubt she could do much more to "defame" you than you've already done to yourself over the years with all of your "research."

Before I continue, it's important to explain how I work. I'm not a psychologist, psychiatrist, or psychotherapist.

Okay. But the better question is, "Have you bothered to see one?"

If the situation Alice reported was true and actual “hybrid beings” were threatening her, I felt I had to try to protect her from them. And obviously if Alice's reports were true, I had to try to protect myself as well.

So I guess the answer to my question would be, "No."

If abduction research can be trusted…

Even if it could, David Jacobs' charlatanry cannot possibly fall into the credible category of "research" — as his following remarks amply demonstrate.

...alien beings have telepathic abilities and know what people are thinking; therefore, protecting both Alice and myself was a major challenge.

I thought long and hard about what, if anything, I could do. I decided that one approach would be, during hypnosis, to give Alice ideas to think about that would throw "mind-readers" off my trail.

Um... So, in all this "long" and "hard" thinking (vaguely Freudian, too) you didn't figure that these "mind readers" would already be able to know that? 'Cause, you know, they'd have read your mind?!

Well, at least it would have been light reading, I guess.

I explained my thinking to her before I acted. Then at one point during a hypnosis session I told her that as a researcher I was interested not in abductions but in multiple personality disorder. I chose this because it is believable--the disorder has characteristics in common with the effects of abductions. I hoped that she would be able to keep this idea in her mind and convey it to her abductors, thereby relieving some of the pressure both she and I felt. At no time did I think that Alice had multiple personality disorder, and of course neither did she. She knew exactly what was happening and why.

So she "knew" that you were being an idiot, and played along with it. Fair enough. If so, that would explain why I'm really not inclined to be in her corner either on this one.

And why is David Jacobs doing hypnosis on a population of people — many of whom are likely to be quite vulnerable — anyway?!? Since he's already established that he's "not a psychologist, psychiatrist, or psychotherapist" (and we know for a fact that he doesn't even play one on TV), his credentials for doing all of this all along have been dubious at best. So now he's being recorded at least sounding like he's implanting the idea of multiple personality disorder (more appropriately "Dissociative Identity Disorder") inside the hypnotized mind of a "research" subject?!

What a schlimazel. Whatever "Alice's" intentions, this might turn out to be fair payback for Jacobs having been such a schlemiel for so, so long.

David Jacobs has no business appearing to "lead" anyone to believe anything while they're under hypnosis — for any reason. I've considered him a likely charlatan all along, and this seals the deal.

[Nordic]

I find it all pretty funny, that a guy who deals with people, over the phone, who believe they're being visited by alien hybrids on a nightly basis, can find it within himsefl to act SURPRISED when this person turns against him and acts a bit unhinged.

What's he expect?

I made the mistake of meeting with a woman once, years and years ago, who wanted to tell me about her UFO experiences, and she turned out to be a paranoid schizophrenic who turned into a stalker.

Not to say that Aliens don't walk among us (of course, I don't really know what the definition of "aliens" is), but a lot of people out there are just quite simply mentally ill.

[Alfred Joe's Boy]

I asked a friend with a Freemasonic background how many "other" species inhabit the Earth.
The answer was four.
When I ventured a guess as to their place of origin, he responded:

The issue is not locations, but rather religious (actually, bizarrely cultist) affiliations that span light-years and millennia.



You think cults are bad here? Try putting whacked-out nutcases together with
a toxic mix of extraordinary technological sophistication and ancient
nonsense (like ritualistic "animal"/"science" sacrifices), and you might
have some idea of what's going on. The "persecution" of such whackos drives
them to new lands where they can practice their "freedom of religion" to
their hearts' content without fear of social sanction from their peer
societies nor retribution by the victims of their cultist freak show work.



Locational names are trivial. The horrors these Others commit are not.

[Simulist]

I asked a friend with a Freemasonic background how many "other" species inhabit the Earth.
The answer was four.
When I ventured a guess as to their place of origin, he responded:

The issue is not locations, but rather religious (actually, bizarrely cultist) affiliations that span light-years and millennia.



You think cults are bad here? Try putting whacked-out nutcases together with
a toxic mix of extraordinary technological sophistication and ancient
nonsense (like ritualistic "animal"/"science" sacrifices), and you might
have some idea of what's going on. The "persecution" of such whackos drives
them to new lands where they can practice their "freedom of religion" to
their hearts' content without fear of social sanction from their peer
societies nor retribution by the victims of their cultist freak show work.



Locational names are trivial. The horrors these Others commit are not.

That's an interesting point of view. It reminds me somewhat of something Phillip K. Dick said once, "If you think this universe is bad, you should see some of the others."

[Username]

~
I happen to be, at this time, rereading a book called E.T. 101: The Cosmic Instruction Manual for Planetary Evolution.

Pg. 13 - 16

The New Intergalactic Collegiate Dictionary

Level 1 Words
Look Jane, See Spot Run

Extraterrestrial

An extraterrestrial is not an alien. An alien is an alien. An extraterrestrial is a responsible citizen of the cosmos, not a foreigner adrift among the stars. Extraterrestrials are representatives of light, protectors of life, and lovers of the planets. They are indigenous to any planet they happen to be on by virtue of their citizenship, regardless of their planet of origin.

Many of you have come to believe that you couldn’t possibly be an extraterrestrial because you feel so connected to the Earth and love her so much. May we suggest that if you love this planet at all, you are an extraterrestrial. May we also suggest that your concern for this planet was so great that you cared enough to send the very best – in this case, yourself.

Alignment, not lineage, defines the meaning of the term “extraterrestrial.” Although all life emanates from the same source, not all life is aligned with that source. An Extraterrestrial is a being who is in sympathetic harmony with the essence of its genesis.

Alien

The people of this planet have expressed a certain neurotic fear about an alien invasion. That fear has been triggered by a nagging sense that in a limitless universe there just might be other intelligent life. In a typically xenophobic and self-serving response, governments are arming against what they already know to be true. This, of course, is not general knowledge but, in paternalistic systems of government, important information is never general knowledge. In the name of national security, the acts of government are often hidden from the governed. This statement is not to make you paranoid or stir you to political revolt: it is simply to demonstrate to you the behavior of an alien and the meaning of the term.

You need not scour the skies for evidence of an alien invasion. Look around you instead. Look at those who are peddling fear, vending death, and poisoning the planet. Look at those who hide the truth so that the power they have derived from lying will not be threatened. And look at those sadly separated beings that have the audacity to gaze out upon the created universe, wondering if there could possibly be anyone else out there, all the while arming just in case there is. This is the alien invasion you worry about, the one you externalize and fear. It is also the one that surrounds you and the one you have been living out for thousands of years.

There is no point in fearing an invasion of aliens, since the invasion has already happened and the aliens are already here. You would be better advised to fear that no true intelligence will ever show up on this planet. And you would be even better advised not to fear anything at all.

E.T. vs. Alien

Now that you have learned the difference between an extraterrestrial and an alien, we would like you to forget the distinction immediately. The danger in the definitions is that, as mental concepts, they separate once again. This mission is not about separation. Nor Is it a Hollywood Western being performed by a cast of good guys and bad guys. It is about light and bringing more of it onto this planet. The invitation to enter into the light is extended to all humankind, aliens included, for aliens are only extraterrestrials who have chosen to stand in the darkness, live a lie, and wear a disguise.

Note: At the time of this printing, there are only two basic types of people on this planet: extraterrestrials and aliens. “Extraterrestrial” is a transitional term which will become unnecessary by the completion of this mission. At that point, human will replace the term. An awareness of your extraterrestrial nature will then be an integral part of all human experience, and aliens will no longer occupy the planet. In the same manner, other transitional terms, such as “androgyny,” will cease to have any meaning. A balance male and female will emerge within every being. As a result, the word “androgyny” will be thrown on the trash heap, relegated to the status of a needles term that redundantly describes what it means to be human. Keep in mind that the definitions in this dictionary were written for a world in transition and are subject to revision.


~

[Simulist]

Extraterrestrial

: originating, existing, or occurring outside the earth or its atmosphere
: an extraterrestrial being

Alien

1 : a person of another family, race, or nation
2 : a foreign-born resident who has not been naturalized and is still a subject or citizen of a foreign country; broadly : a foreign-born citizen
3 : extraterrestrial
4 : exotic

One of the multiple reasons this subject has become as convoluted as it has over the years is the attempt by many to advance an agenda by trying to change the meaning of words.

Zoev Jho, the author of the quote from the above referenced book, is just one example of many.

[jingofever]

Remember, "Aliens 'already exist on earth', Bulgarian scientists claim". I don't think anything ever happened with that story.

[Jimmy123]

This could probably use it's own space but it does correlate to the belief that "Aliens walk amongst us". The claim of "Emma Woods" is that David Jacobs believed that "Alien Hybrids" were aware of his work, disapproved and were targeting him. His decision to throw them off his track by implanting the the mind of Ms. Woods that he suspected she suffered from MPD (admitted to in the statement) in order to confuse the offending hybrids is at the core of this story. Ms. Woods arguments are quite persuasive and include audio clips of her conversations with Jacobs, which on the face of them, appear very damning and suportive of her claim. The following is Jacobs statement. I've provided a link to Ms. Woods rebuttal at the end. It's a fairly big deal at the moment in Ufology (such as it is).

She alleges he implanted false memories of hybrids in her using hypnosis. He also told her he was having instant messaging conversations with hybrids and read her the transcript of one of these IM conversations. While he had her hypnotized he implanted the suggestions in her mind that she had Multiple Personality Disorder and she says she didn't know he was going to do it. The audio of him doing it is here:


UFO Disclose .com

http://ufodisclose.com/


Paratopia have done three shows on this. They are best listened to in this order:


Paratopia Episode 57: The Emma Woods Tapes

http://paratopia.podbean.com/2010/03/05/paratopia-episode-57-the-emma-woods-tapes/


Paratopia Episode 60: World Exclusive - Emma Woods. The Interview.

http://paratopia.podbean.com/2010/03/26/paratopia-episode-60-world-exclusive-emma-woods-the-interview/


Paratopia Episode 62: Threatened By Hybrids. The Aftermath.

http://paratopia.podbean.com/2010/04/09/paratopia-episode-62-threatened-by-hybrids-the-aftermath/


She alleges his statement about her is false and she has been posting a rebuttal to it. What supports her claim is he has been making drastic changes to his statement as she posts her rebuttal and is not giving any explanation for why he is reversing his previous statements which include the basic facts of the case.


His current version of his statement is here:


The Defamation Campaign

http://www.ufoabduction.com/defamationcampaign.htm


Her rebuttal is here:


Rebuttal to Dr. David Jacobs
by "Emma Woods"

http://www.ufoalienabductee.com/rebuttal-david-jacobs.html

[justdrew]

if he never saw this "E. Woods" in person, how could he test that she was ever actually in a hypnotic trance during the telephone sessions? There's no way I believe that such a suggestion as went on in that recording would be sufficient to implant anything. It's also hard for me to believe that this guy ACTUALLY believes now that he was potentially threatened by "hybrids" - that doesn't seem to fit in with his body of work that I've seen so far.

I can't help but wonder if both parties in this dispute are acting out some kind of game for the rest of us to watch. Perhaps this researcher, in collaboration with "woods" is injecting some stimulus into the ufo world to see how people react to this controversy?

[Simulist]

I can't help but wonder if both parties in this dispute are acting out some kind of game for the rest of us to watch. Perhaps this researcher, in collaboration with "woods" is injecting some stimulus into the ufo world to see how people react to this controversy?

That sounds like an insightful idea, JustDrew. You may just be right.

And I won't be surprised if you are.

[Ben D]

BTW, there are possibilities in addition to the actual extraterrestrial visitation in form (alien), one of course is through incarnation/birth in a human body and another that one hears about is the 'walk in', a case where a human soul relinquishes its exclusive rights associated with its body to allow the spirit of extraterrestrial origin to unite with it and thereby take possession of a fully functioning adult human form.

This 'walk in' concept comes from the idea of an avatar (Sanskrit..avatara) whereby the spiritual consciousness of a Divine entity unites with the human soul generally for the purpose of intervention in a crisis that has developed on the physical globe of the Earth planetary system. Jesus is an example of an avatar in this tradition.

[elfismiles]

What if the “aliens” are not from other planets?

THE CRYPTOTERRESTRIALS
A Meditation on Indigenous Humanoids
and the Aliens Among Us
by Mac Tonnies

Anomalist Books
Trade Paperback, $12.00
ISBN: 1933665467
128 pages, including
11 illustrations by Mike Clelland

Publication Date: March 15, 2010


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A meditation on indigenous humanoids
and the aliens among us

“If evidence for the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis has failed to surface—despite decades of hard work and diligent investigations—then maybe we should consider the notion that we are looking for the answers in all the wrong places. Instead of looking up, maybe we should be looking around us. And, perhaps, even below us, too.” – From the Foreword by Nick Redfern, author of On the Trail of the Saucer Spies

“The Cryptoterrestrials is the most refreshing speculation on the paranormal I've seen in ages. The ideas in this book will be harvested by science-fiction writers and TV shows like Fringe for decades. Even skeptics will have a great time reading this well written book of wild conjecture. Mac Tonnies' final Fortean landmark is the Book of the Damned for the 21st century. Fans of the paranormal: be there or be square.” – John Shirley, author of Bleak History

“This book is an honest pursuit of ideas that might lead to some greater understanding of the paranormal and the existence of an apparent non-human intelligence…Mac Tonnies cuts through much of the self-satisfi ed, bloated fundamentalist fat of the last fifty years with the deft touch of a surgeon and the encyclopedic knowledge of a veteran.” – From the Afterword by Greg Bishop, author of Project Beta

CONTENTS
Editor’s Note
Foreword by Nick Redfern
Chapter 1: Looking for Aliens
Chapter 2: Misdirection
Chapter 3: UFOs and Extraterrestrials
Chapter 4: The Abduction Epidemic
Chapter 5: Encounter with a Flower
Chapter 6: Curious Bystanders
Chapter 7: The Superspectrum
Chapter 8: Water World
Chapter 9: Underground
Chapter 10: Among Us
Chapter 11: Final Thoughts
Afterword by Greg Bishop
Acknowledgments
Bibliography


About the author...



Mac Tonnies (1975-2009) was an author and blogger whose work focused on futurology, transhumanism, and the paranormal. Tonnies grew up in Independence, Missouri. He was the author of two other books, a collection of science fi ction short stories entitled Illumined Black, and After the Martian Apocalypse, an examination of the anomalies on the surface of Mars. His popular blog
was called Posthuman Blues. Tonnies died at the age of 34 in Kansas City, Missouri.

Be sure to visit Macbots, the Mac Tonnies celebration/memorial art/writing/general creativity site.

http://www.anomalistbooks.com/tonnies.html

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Wilco...Tango...Foxtrot...

[anothershamus]

I invited aliens to come to a discussion group at Burning Man and 30+ people showed up.....I got the vibe that 4 or 5 were real aliens, two nordics, one reptillain and one alien royalty with her servant (he could have been human). I figured that if aliens were here they would show up at the burn. I wasn't disappointed, and by the way, the alien for that year had neon and a body structure that was very much like a mantis alien. That was before the mushrooms kicked in! (it didn't help after they kicked in I will tell you that for sure!) I also saw an alien ship disguised as a burning man art car!

They are out there!

Actually they are RIGHT HERE!

What's funny about this post, and this site, and the internet in general I suppose is that I actually have no idea whether or not your post is serious.

It really happened just like that! 2005

[justdrew]

for a great movie along these lines too few have seen: Hombre mirando al Sudeste aka Man Facing Southeast


can't find a version with subtitles


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hombre_mirando_al_sudeste