The Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

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Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

Guests: John Edwards, Wesley Clark, Judith Miller, Ephraim Sneh, Tom Clancy, Steven Emerson, Richard Holbrooke and Samuel Berger.

For people who didn't know who did it they sure had a clear understanding of the required response.

[Nordic]

Wow, that's just painful to watch. Nauseating.

Yeah, they were right on script, weren't they? Especially Judith Miller, who actually seemed to be looking down at a script a few times.

I couldn't even watch it all, had to sort of skip through it. It's so disgusting.

Interesting to look back on this, how they immediately steered all conversation, on a national scale, to the "Islamic OBL/terrorist suicide bomber" angle.

They even had the guy from Israel on this particular show. You know, because ...... why?

[Simulist]

Yeah, they were right on script, weren't they?

Yes they were.

They are reliable Pez dispensers for the Official Lie.

[DoYouEverWonder]

Nice find.

Interesting line up for a show that supposedly would have just been thrown together at the last minute.

An hour live panel discussion about the U.S.' response to the tragic terrorist attacks that took place at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and in Somerset, Pennsylvania. Panelists include: General Wesley Clark from Little Rock, Arkansas, former U.N. Ambassador Richard Holbrooke, former National Security Adviser to President Clinton Samuel Berger, General Ephraim Sneh of Israel, Judith Miller of "The New York Times", Democratic Senator John Edwards of North Carolina, terrorist analyst Steve Emerson and novelist Tom Clancy.

Odd, they've got links to everyone except Steve Emerson. Don't want people to know too much about him I suppose. He's only one of the main al Qaeda and terror myth generators in the country along with the infamous Judith Miller. And Tom Clancy? Well at least he admits he's a fiction writer. And how did John Edwards, a freshman Senator from NC end up in the mix?

Then there's Israeli General Ephraim Sneh. This is the same guy who recently came out saying that Israel will have to attack Iran by Nov.

On 9/11 Sneh was Minister of Transportation in the National Unity Government. As a result of 9/11, he initiated security reforms in air, land, and sea transportation including accelerated efforts to defend passenger aircraft against missiles attacks. You would think that the head of Israel's Transportation Dept would be too busy to have time to sit down for a panel discussion on the same day as the biggest airline disaster in history and with the air space over the entire US shut down.

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Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

Guests: John Edwards, Wesley Clark, Judith Miller, Ephraim Sneh, Tom Clancy, Steven Emerson, Richard Holbrooke and Samuel Berger.

OK, for a start, there really is no "Judith Miller and me," at least in the sense that I'd invite her to my birthday party. But I have talked to her on the phone a few times (nothing to do with Valerie Plame, Scooter Libby or Karl Rove, however). For a time, our lives were remotely in each other's gravity, drawn together by a pseudo-journalist--indeed, a model for what Miller has become--named Steven Emerson...

"Perhaps Miller's most consistent failing as a journalist is that she only makes connections and offers analyses of matters that suit her thesis about the militant, hateful quality of the Arab world. I have little quarrel with the general view that the Arab world is in a dreadful state, and have said so repeatedly for the past three decades. But she barely registers the existence of a determined anti-Arab and anti-Islamic U.S. policy. She plays fast and loose with fact."

Did you get that last sentence by Said: Miller "plays fast and loose with fact." Said wrote that nine years ago. The Times apparently just noticed.

Miller first surfaced on my radar about a decade ago. Her close confederate was Emerson. Both had been engaged in a furious campaign attacking virtually every Arab and Muslim voice in America. Emerson--who also at various times claimed to be a journalist--lost his foothold as a commentator among most responsible media, especially after he tried to pin the Oklahoma City bombing on Muslims.

Emerson's most noteworthy crusade has been against a Tampa professor, Sami Al-Arian. Emerson and an ally at The Tampa Tribune were relentless. I eventually exposed many of Emerson's and the Trib's distortions and exaggerations. More important, the top FBI counterterrorism chief told me Al-Arian had not committed any federal crimes, and the lead federal prosecutor in the case also said there was no evidence to prosecute.

My heavily documented revelations about Emerson provoked him to retaliate via a lawsuit. Noteworthy, the lawyer he went to for advice was Floyd Abrams, most recently in the news as Miller's attorney. That's only fitting.

We spent four years litigating with Emerson, and finally prevailed in both federal and state courts. The final blow to his case came when we obtained an order compelling him to show proof of his allegations. He wouldn't--couldn't?--and he ran away.

During the litigation, one of the most interesting insights that I gleaned were reports of meetings held that involved Miller, Emerson, arch-Islamaphobe Daniel Pipes--and a number of other people we now call "neo-cons." All of these people had strong ties to the right-wing Likud party in Israel. Heck, Miller had even sat in on Israeli "interrogation" sessions of Palestinians; and Emerson provided beds in his Washington apartment to Likud spooks who slipped into the United States to try and undermine peace negotiations.

Keep in mind, it took 9/11 to restore a veneer of credibility to Emerson as an "expert" on terrorism.

Many people, including me, had predicted years ago that terrorism would reach our shores. If we declare we are on the road to inevitable conflict with a culture and religion, and pursue policies that reflect such belligerence, it's likely to happen. (Of course, missing from Miller's, Emerson's and Pipes' breathless predictions about terrorism striking America is the fact that it long ago had. The Islam-haters neglect to notice the thousands of terrorist events in the United States committed by fundamentalist Christians who hate blacks or oppose abortion, not to mention the scores of bombings and murders committed by right-wing Cubans in Miami. Indeed, the only three actual Middle East-related terrorist events in Florida, including an assassination attempt on a former Israeli prime minister, were committed by radical supporters of Israel, not by Arabs or Muslims. But you're not supposed to know that.)...

John Sugg: Judith Miller and Me

Screening must include religion, ethnicity - CNN.com

rigorousintuition.ca - View topic - Rabin's killer interviewed (influenced by right, military)

rigorousintuition.ca - View topic - KWHing gets even more convuluted

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On October 12, 2001, Miller opened an anthrax hoax letter mailed to her New York Times office. The 2001 anthrax attacks had begun occurring in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks, with anthrax-laced letters sent to ABC News, CBS News, NBC News and the New York Post, all in New York City, as well as the National Enquirer in Boca Raton, Florida. Two additional letters (with a higher grade of anthrax) were sent on October 9, 2001 to Senators Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy in Washington. Twenty-two people were infected; five died. In 2008, as the government's investigation of these mailings focused on Bruce Ivins, Mr. Ivins committed suicide. The official view is that Mr. Ivins acted alone.[citation needed]

Miller was the only major U.S. media reporter, and the New York Times the only major U.S. media organization, to be victimized by a fake anthrax letter in the fall of 2001.

Seems kind of convenient.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Miller_(journalist)

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You would think that the head of Israel's Transportation Dept would be too busy to have time to sit down for a panel discussion on the same day as the biggest airline disaster in history and with the air space over the entire US shut down.

If I recall, LOTS of officials found time in their "busy," schedule that day all over the world. Why would an Israeli be any different?

[Nordic]

Why is there someone from Israel there at all?

[DoYouEverWonder]

You would think that the head of Israel's Transportation Dept would be too busy to have time to sit down for a panel discussion on the same day as the biggest airline disaster in history and with the air space over the entire US shut down.

If I recall, LOTS of officials found time in their "busy," schedule that day all over the world. Why would an Israeli be any different?

Especially Jerome Hauer and Jeremy Bremer, who should have been too busy dealing with the disaster, but both had plenty of time to do lengthy interviews promoting the Official Myth. Apparently, that was much more important.

[17breezes]

You would think that the head of Israel's Transportation Dept would be too busy to have time to sit down for a panel discussion on the same day as the biggest airline disaster in history and with the air space over the entire US shut down.

If I recall, LOTS of officials found time in their "busy," schedule that day all over the world. Why would an Israeli be any different?

Especially Jerome Hauer and Jeremy Bremer, who should have been too busy dealing with the disaster, but both had plenty of time to do lengthy interviews promoting the Official Myth. Apparently, that was much more important.

Officials talking to the public at a time of deep crisis. Wow that's really suspicious and unusual.

[DoYouEverWonder]

You would think that the head of Israel's Transportation Dept would be too busy to have time to sit down for a panel discussion on the same day as the biggest airline disaster in history and with the air space over the entire US shut down.

If I recall, LOTS of officials found time in their "busy," schedule that day all over the world. Why would an Israeli be any different?

Especially Jerome Hauer and Jeremy Bremer, who should have been too busy dealing with the disaster, but both had plenty of time to do lengthy interviews promoting the Official Myth. Apparently, that was much more important.

Officials talking to the public at a time of deep crisis. Wow that's really suspicious and unusual.

There's a difference between doing talk show interviews and talking to the public in a time of deep crisis, which was Bush and Guiliani's jobs but both of them disappeared when they were supposed to be reassuring the public so I guess their friends had to fill in.

BTW: What official capacity were Bremer and Hauer serving in that day?

[17breezes]

You would think that the head of Israel's Transportation Dept would be too busy to have time to sit down for a panel discussion on the same day as the biggest airline disaster in history and with the air space over the entire US shut down.

If I recall, LOTS of officials found time in their "busy," schedule that day all over the world. Why would an Israeli be any different?

Especially Jerome Hauer and Jeremy Bremer, who should have been too busy dealing with the disaster, but both had plenty of time to do lengthy interviews promoting the Official Myth. Apparently, that was much more important.

Officials talking to the public at a time of deep crisis. Wow that's really suspicious and unusual.

There's a difference between doing talk show interviews and talking to the public in a time of deep crisis, which was Bush and Guiliani's jobs but both of them disappeared when they were supposed to be reassuring the public so I guess their friends had to fill in.

BTW: What official capacity were Bremer and Hauer serving in that day?

To be honest I don't care, My original concern was why you centered out the Israeli guy. So perhaps I will be frank and ask you outright. Do you think that Israel did 9/11?

[DoYouEverWonder]

You would think that the head of Israel's Transportation Dept would be too busy to have time to sit down for a panel discussion on the same day as the biggest airline disaster in history and with the air space over the entire US shut down.

If I recall, LOTS of officials found time in their "busy," schedule that day all over the world. Why would an Israeli be any different?

Especially Jerome Hauer and Jeremy Bremer, who should have been too busy dealing with the disaster, but both had plenty of time to do lengthy interviews promoting the Official Myth. Apparently, that was much more important.

Officials talking to the public at a time of deep crisis. Wow that's really suspicious and unusual.

There's a difference between doing talk show interviews and talking to the public in a time of deep crisis, which was Bush and Guiliani's jobs but both of them disappeared when they were supposed to be reassuring the public so I guess their friends had to fill in.

BTW: What official capacity were Bremer and Hauer serving in that day?

To be honest I don't care, My original concern was why you centered out the Israeli guy. So perhaps I will be frank and ask you outright. Do you think that Israel did 9/11?

No.

[17breezes]

You would think that the head of Israel's Transportation Dept would be too busy to have time to sit down for a panel discussion on the same day as the biggest airline disaster in history and with the air space over the entire US shut down.

If I recall, LOTS of officials found time in their "busy," schedule that day all over the world. Why would an Israeli be any different?

Especially Jerome Hauer and Jeremy Bremer, who should have been too busy dealing with the disaster, but both had plenty of time to do lengthy interviews promoting the Official Myth. Apparently, that was much more important.

Officials talking to the public at a time of deep crisis. Wow that's really suspicious and unusual.

There's a difference between doing talk show interviews and talking to the public in a time of deep crisis, which was Bush and Guiliani's jobs but both of them disappeared when they were supposed to be reassuring the public so I guess their friends had to fill in.

BTW: What official capacity were Bremer and Hauer serving in that day?

To be honest I don't care, My original concern was why you centered out the Israeli guy. So perhaps I will be frank and ask you outright. Do you think that Israel did 9/11?

No.

Great. My apologies.

[DoYouEverWonder]

To be honest I don't care, My original concern was why you centered out the Israeli guy. So perhaps I will be frank and ask you outright. Do you think that Israel did 9/11?

No.

Great. My apologies.

Then why are you so concerned about the Israeli guy? I didn't focus just on him in my first post, but you ignored that and accused me of just focusing on the Israeli. Thou doth protest too much.