The Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

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9. 17breezes (24 posts) Sun Feb-07-10 11:15 PM

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CT nuts are nuts whether 25 or 85.

Tin foil is always in fashion and [Nafeez] Ahmed just repeats the same old debunked troofer drivel.

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[17breezes]

To be honest I don't care, My original concern was why you centered out the Israeli guy. So perhaps I will be frank and ask you outright. Do you think that Israel did 9/11?

No.

Great. My apologies.

Then why are you so concerned about the Israeli guy? I didn't focus just on him in my first post, but you ignored that and accused me of just focusing on the Israeli. Thou doth protest too much.

Well he was the only one you said should have been too busy so naturally I wondered wtf that was all about. As it turns out, you are NOT a fruitcake who believes that Israel did 9/11 and I'm glad of that; hence, the apology. Accept it or don't. That's your option.

[surfaceskimmer]

Israeli/Zionist finger-prints are all over the event, as well as other issues and events. The information and evidence (albeit suppressed and never discussed in MSM and even major Internet boards) is out there. Some used to speak about connecting dots, but it looks like pointillism now. And a lot of people in the US are beginning to awaken from their soporific state.

As for the media on that severe clear day, the Charlie Rose show is only one example; there are (were) YouTube compilations of the media "spokesmen" in the US and the UK, and whole studies have been given over to the active propaganda, PsyOps, MindWars games. The parallels between 9/11 and JFK's assassination are legend and have been addressed in detail. Cass "cognitive infiltration" Sunstein, the White House information tzar, now in theory a candidate for a SCOTUS seat, tells us -- in harmony with "Mega" Rahm, Obama, Bush and the entire power elite of the past, tthat we cannot speak of these things. The former head of Homeland Security said on C-SPAN that to entertain doubts and concerns about the official story of 9/11 was the equivalent of being a Holocaust denier. So who is kidding who?

There is a quote I'll have to dig out by one of the premier JFK researchers along these lines: the evidence is now so clear that to entertain discussions about the details with "debunkers" is to be dragged into their game. The "magic bullet" and the melting towers are cut from the same cloth, perpetrated by the same folks. Study the development of the national security state in 1947 and trace back who was involved; it is enlightening. Vincent Salandria was right.

[17breezes]

Israeli/Zionist finger-prints are all over the event, as well as other issues and events. The information and evidence (albeit suppressed and never discussed in MSM and even major Internet boards) is out there. Some used to speak about connecting dots, but it looks like pointillism now. And a lot of people in the US are beginning to awaken from their soporific state.

As for the media on that severe clear day, the Charlie Rose show is only one example; there are (were) YouTube compilations of the media "spokesmen" in the US and the UK, and whole studies have been given over to the active propaganda, PsyOps, MindWars games. The parallels between 9/11 and JFK's assassination are legend and have been addressed in detail. Cass "cognitive infiltration" Sunstein, the White House information tzar, now in theory a candidate for a SCOTUS seat, tells us -- in harmony with "Mega" Rahm, Obama, Bush and the entire power elite of the past, tthat we cannot speak of these things. The former head of Homeland Security said on C-SPAN that to entertain doubts and concerns about the official story of 9/11 was the equivalent of being a Holocaust denier. So who is kidding who?

There is a quote I'll have to dig out by one of the premier JFK researchers along these lines: the evidence is now so clear that to entertain discussions about the details with "debunkers" is to be dragged into their game. The "magic bullet" and the melting towers are cut from the same cloth, perpetrated by the same folks. Study the development of the national security state in 1947 and trace back who was involved; it is enlightening. Vincent Salandria was right.

Say fruitcake one and one appears. Kinda like "The Secret." Wow. Gotta try that on parking spots.

[Hugh Manatee Wins]

Anyone who thinks that Tom Clancy was at Charlie Rose's table on 9/11/01
because he was 'a novelist' is mistaken about Clancy's special role in media.

[Nordic]

Anyone who thinks that Tom Clancy was at Charlie Rose's table on 9/11/01
because he was 'a novelist' is mistaken about Clancy's special role in media.

Yeah, considering they could have invited John LeCarre instead.

[DoYouEverWonder]

Well he was the only one you said should have been too busy so naturally I wondered wtf that was all about. As it turns out, you are NOT a fruitcake who believes that Israel did 9/11 and I'm glad of that; hence, the apology. Accept it or don't. That's your option.

Well, he was the only one on Rose's panel who was a government official on that day. All of the others were retired or private citizens. Gosh and he happened to be a zionist.

For the record, I have never said Israel did 9/11. Sorry to disappoint anyone, but I have always believed that all roads lead to Poppy Bush. But that doesn't mean that members of the Israeli government and Mossad were not involved.

[17breezes]

Well he was the only one you said should have been too busy so naturally I wondered wtf that was all about. As it turns out, you are NOT a fruitcake who believes that Israel did 9/11 and I'm glad of that; hence, the apology. Accept it or don't. That's your option.

Well, he was the only one on Rose's panel who was a government official on that day. All of the others were retired or private citizens. Gosh and he happened to be a zionist.

For the record, I have never said Israel did 9/11. Sorry to disappoint anyone, but I have always believed that all roads lead to Poppy Bush. But that doesn't mean that members of the Israeli government and Mossad were not involved.

Well Poppy Bush was far better friends with the Saudis than Israel or Mossad and I'm sure getting martyrs to blow themselves up is probably far easier for Arabs than Israelis so maybe you should rethink some things. IMO. of course. Oh and while hunting for more dancing Israelis and "art students," running a scam , the Arab elite were allowed to fly home. Strange stuff.

[MinM]

Charlie Rose show on 9/11/01

Guests: John Edwards, Wesley Clark, Judith Miller, Ephraim Sneh, Tom Clancy, Steven Emerson, Richard Holbrooke and Samuel Berger...

Anyone who thinks that Tom Clancy was at Charlie Rose's table on 9/11/01
because he was 'a novelist' is mistaken about Clancy's special role in media.

Seems as though each player in this bit of political theater was reliably Pro-War with Iraq. Before War on Iraq was Cool...

No Defense for Sandy Berger

Published on Friday, July 23, 2004 by the Madison Capital Times (Wisconsin)
No Defense for Sandy Berger

Democrats in Congress, particularly Democrats who oppose the Bush administration's misguided war with Iraq, make a huge mistake when they attempt to defend Sandy Berger, who served as former President Bill Clinton's national security adviser and who now stands accused of stealing and destroying classified materials on terrorism.

Berger has for many years been an atrocious player in American politics. He tried to get former President Clinton to launch a war with Iraq in the late 1990s, using "evidence" every bit as flimsy as that employed by the Bush administration in 2003. He has been a Democratic apologist for some of the Bush administration's worst abuses. And, as a senior adviser to John Kerry's presidential campaign, he pressured the presumptive Democratic nominee to echo the Bush administration line on maintaining the occupation of Iraq.

In 2003, when Berger was preparing to testify before the national commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, he spent roughly 30 hours reviewing classified materials in a secure reading room. Berger was seen placing documents in a leather portfolio and stuffing papers in his jacket and pants.

Berger claims his removal of the documents, which may have contained material harmful to his own reputation, was an "honest mistake." Yet, when National Archives officials demanded that Berger return the documents and paperwork, he produced only some of them and then claimed to have "inadvertently" destroyed the rest. Berger's actions were shocking. And his defenses do not sound credible.

Berger should be prosecuted, just as anyone in the Bush administration who attempted to undermine the work of the 9/11 commission should be prosecuted. Yet some of the Democrats who have been most critical of Bush administration abuses have tried to come up with excuses for Berger. By rushing to the partisan barricades in defense of Berger, they are making a big mistake...

[DoYouEverWonder]

Well he was the only one you said should have been too busy so naturally I wondered wtf that was all about. As it turns out, you are NOT a fruitcake who believes that Israel did 9/11 and I'm glad of that; hence, the apology. Accept it or don't. That's your option.

Well, he was the only one on Rose's panel who was a government official on that day. All of the others were retired or private citizens. Gosh and he happened to be a zionist.

For the record, I have never said Israel did 9/11. Sorry to disappoint anyone, but I have always believed that all roads lead to Poppy Bush. But that doesn't mean that members of the Israeli government and Mossad were not involved.

Well Poppy Bush was far better friends with the Saudis than Israel or Mossad and I'm sure getting martyrs to blow themselves up is probably far easier for Arabs than Israelis so maybe you should rethink some things. IMO. of course. Oh and while hunting for more dancing Israelis and "art students," running a scam , the Arab elite were allowed to fly home. Strange stuff.

Poppy always loved those coalitions of the willing. I'm sure you could have started a new United Nations with the assortment of bad actors that were involved.

However, don't insult my intelligence with the 19 hijackers bullshit story. And I know you know the dancing Israelis and art students were stories planted in the media, so that people like you can get all uppity about everyone blaming the joos.

[17breezes]

"19 hijackers bullshit story"

M Kay.

[Simulist]

Why is there someone from Israel there at all?

As you so often do, Nordic, you've hit the nail squarely on the head.

Indeed, why is someone from Israel on that panel at all?

Good question.

[surfaceskimmer]

Say fruitcake one and one appears.

Very original...

The coy suggestion that mental health services are required is as old, moldy and ineffective as the anti-Semitic crap, all now evident as a ploy. It's been used well in many cases by statist power to control people. Try reading "To Build a Castle" by Vladimir Bukovsky for some background on the use of psychiatric allegation and imprisonment, or just do some research on the developmental work done for the Abu Ghraib and Gitmo.

Does 17breezes mean that you are adept at fanning hot air? Maybe it's the number of merit badges from your hasbara brigade... You should be up for your 18th soon.

[thatsmystory]

Statement: Arabs were involved in 9/11.

Rebuttal: Bullshit. You are a Zionist Arab hater.

Statement: Some 9/11 truth advocates truly believe Israel was behind 9/11.

Rebuttal: Bullshit. They are agent provocateurs.

Statement: Some of the 9/11 truth sites promote antisemitic views.

Rebuttal: Focus on the other 2% of their material and ignore the stuff that offends you. Think Big Tent. We need converts right now.

Statement: How do you "convert" (good choice of words) people by promoting crap?

Rebuttal: You tell me gatekeeper. Mr. Cointelpro. You tell me.

[DoYouEverWonder]

Statement: Arabs were involved in 9/11.

Rebuttal: Bullshit. You are Zionist Arab hater.

Statement: Some 9/11 truth advocates truly believe Israel was behind 9/11.

Rebuttal: Bullshit. They are agent provocateurs.

Statement: Some of the 9/11 truth sites promote antisemitic views.

Rebuttal: Focus on the other 2% of their material and ignore the stuff that offends you. Think Big Tent. We need converts right now.

Statement: How do you "convert" (good choice of words) people by promoting crap?

Rebuttal: You tell me gatekeeper. Mr. Cointelpro. You tell me.

What a sucky way to make a living. I'd think I'd rather starve then to sell my soul to BushCo.