Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

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Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby elfismiles » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:11 am

I contemplated putting this in the 911 subforum but it'll get more viewage here.

Lotsa links in the OP.


Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Friday, April 23, 2010


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Preface from Alex Jones: To truly grasp the magnitude of this story, you really have to read the entire article. Immediately after the “pull it” controversy, debunkers claimed there was no plan to conduct a controlled demolition of the building. Now the fact that officials were considering blowing up the building is established, Silverstein’s consistent denial that this took place is a huge smoking gun. How did Silverstein expect to demolish the building safely when such a process takes weeks or even months to properly set up, even without the additional chaos surrounding WTC 7 on 9/11? This new revelation is astounding and it needs to be investigated immediately.

A Fox News hit piece against Jesse Ventura and the 9/11 truth movement written by former Washington D.C. prosecutor Jeffrey Scott Shapiro inadvertently reveals a shocking truth, that World Trade Center leaseholder Larry Silverstein, who collected nearly $500 million dollars in insurance as a result of the collapse of Building 7, a 47-story structure that was not hit by a plane but collapsed within seven seconds on September 11, was on the phone to his insurance carrier attempting to convince them that the building should be brought down via controlled demolition.

Writing for Fox News, Jeffrey Scott Shapiro states, “I was working as a journalist for Gannett News at Ground Zero that day, and I remember very clearly what I saw and heard.”

“Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building – since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall.”


In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties’ estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. This building’s collapse alone resulted in a payout of nearly $500 million, based on the contention that it was an unforeseen accidental event.

“A controlled demolition would have minimized the damage caused by the building’s imminent collapse and potentially save lives. Many law enforcement personnel, firefighters and other journalists were aware of this possible option. There was no secret. There was no conspiracy,” writes Shapiro.

However, obviously aware of how it would impact his insurance claim, Larry Silverstein has consistently denied that there was ever a plan to intentionally demolish Building 7.

In June 2005, Silverstein told New York Post journalist Sam Smith that his infamous “pull it” comment, which has been cited as proof that Silverstein planned to take down the building with explosives, “meant something else”.

In January 2006, Silverstein’s spokesperson Dara McQuillan told the U.S. State Department that the “pull it” comment meant to withdraw firefighters from the building (despite the fact that there were no firefighters inside WTC 7 as we shall later cover). There was no mention whatsoever of any plan to demolish the building before it fell.

Shapiro’s faux pas has unwittingly let the cat out of the bag on the fact that Silverstein was aggressively pushing for the building to be intentionally demolished, a claim that he has always vociferously denied, presumably to safeguard against putting in doubt the massive insurance payout he received on the basis that the collapse was accidental.

For over five years since the infamous PBS documentary was aired in which Silverstein states that the decision was made to “pull” the building, a construction term for controlled demolition, debunkers have attempted to perform all kinds of mental gymnastics in fudging the meaning behind the WTC leaseholder’s comments.

“I remember getting a call from the fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, ‘We’ve had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it. And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse,” said Silverstein.

Debunkers attempted to claim that Silverstein meant to “pull” the firefighters from the building due to the danger the structure was in, and this explanation was also later claimed by Silverstein’s spokesman, however, both the FEMA report, the New York Times and even Popular Mechanics reported that there were no firefighting actions taken inside WTC 7.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3E-26oVIIs

Another clip from the same documentary clearly illustrates that the term “pull” is industry jargon for a controlled demolition.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNEoiOP76QQ

“While I was talking with a fellow reporter and several NYPD officers, Building 7 suddenly collapsed, and before it hit the ground, not a single sound emanated from the tower area. There were no explosives; I would have heard them. In fact, I remember that in those few seconds, as the building sank to the ground that I was stunned by how quiet it was,” writes Shapiro in his Fox News hit piece.

Shapiro’s contention that the 47-story building simply collapsed into its own footprint within seven seconds without making a sound, a feat only ever witnessed in world history on 9/11 alone, is contradicted by numerous other first-hand eyewitnesses.

Contradicting Shapiro’s claim that the collapse of the building was quiet, NYPD officer Craig Bartmer stated that he clearly heard bombs tear down Building 7 as he ran away from its collapse.

“I walked around it (Building 7). I saw a hole. I didn’t see a hole bad enough to knock a building down, though. Yeah there was definitely fire in the building, but I didn’t hear any… I didn’t hear any creaking, or… I didn’t hear any indication that it was going to come down. And all of a sudden the radios exploded and everyone started screaming ‘get away, get away, get away from it!’… It was at that moment… I looked up, and it was nothing I would ever imagine seeing in my life. The thing started pealing in on itself… Somebody grabbed my shoulder and I started running, and the shit’s hitting the ground behind me, and the whole time you’re hearing “boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.” I think I know an explosion when I hear it… Yeah it had some damage to it, but nothing like what they’re saying… Nothing to account for what we saw… I am shocked at the story we’ve heard about it to be quite honest,” said Bartmer.

EMT Indira Singh, a Senior Consultant for JP Morgan Chase in Information Technology and Risk Management, told the Pacifica show Guns and Butter, “After midday on 9/11 we had to evacuate that because they told us Building 7 was coming down. If you had been there, not being able to see very much just flames everywhere and smoke – it is entirely possible – I do believe that they brought Building 7 down because I heard that they were going to bring it down because it was unstable because of the collateral damage.”

The host asked Singh, “Did they actually use the word “brought down” and who was it that was telling you this?,” to which Singh responded, “The fire department. And they did use the words ‘we’re gonna have to bring it down’ and for us there observing the nature of the devastation it made total sense to us that this was indeed a possibility, given the subsequent controversy over it I don’t know.”

Another EMT named Mike who wished to remain anonymous wrote in a letter to the Loose Change film crew that emergency responders were told Building 7 was about to be “pulled” and that a 20 second radio countdown preceded its collapse.

“There were bright flashes up and down the sides of Building 7, you could see them through the windows…and it collapsed. We all knew it was intentionally pulled… they told us,” he stated.

Following news reports in the days after the attack that Building 7 had collapsed due to fire damage, Mike fully expected this mistake to be corrected after the chaos had subsided, but was astonished when it became part of the official story.

Mike’s report of a countdown preceding the collapse of WTC 7 was backed up by Former Air Force Special Operations for Search and Rescue, Kevin McPadden, who said that he heard the last few seconds of the countdown on a nearby police radio.

In addition, the language used by firefighters and others at ground zero shortly before the building fell strongly indicates that the building was deliberately demolished with explosives, and not that it fell unaided.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwjmqkjwnvQ

“It’s blowin’ boy.” … “Keep your eye on that building, it’ll be coming down soon.” … “The building is about to blow up, move it back.” … “Here we are walking back. There’s a building, about to blow up…”

Photo and video evidence of the collapse of Building 7 shows classic indications of a controlled demolition. The standard ‘crimp’ in the center-left top of the building and the subsequent ’squibs’ of smoke as it collapses clearly represent explosive demolition.

Veteran news anchor Dan Rather shared the view that the building looked like a controlled demolition during news coverage of the event on CBS.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvx904dAw0o

Several news agencies, including the BBC and CNN, reported that the building had already collapsed 26 minutes and as much as over an hour before it actually fell.

Just about every sentence of Shapiro’s hit piece is contradicted by numerous other eyewitnesses, so his feigned righteous indignation in ranting, “I was there. I know what happened, and there is no single credible piece of evidence that implicates the United States of America in the Sept. 11 attacks,” fails to ring true.

However, the most damning aspect of the article is Shapiro’s inadvertent revelation that Larry Silverstein was on the phone to his insurance company pushing for the building to be demolished, which is precisely what happened later in the day, and as innumerable eyewitnesses as well as video footage and physical evidence prove, the collapse of WTC 7 could have been nothing else than a controlled demolition, which would place Silverstein’s $500 million insurance payout in severe jeopardy if ever acknowledged.

Shapiro’s testimony, intended to debunk questions surrounding the official story behind 9/11, has only succeeded in raising more, because it completely contradicts Larry Silverstein’s insistence that he never considered deliberately demolishing WTC 7 with explosives.

http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-silve ... -7-on-911/

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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:47 am

Thanks elfismiles


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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby tazmic » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:38 pm

So the story is that yes it was a CD of WTC7 but we had good reasons to keep that quite and...nothing else to see here.

"Larry Silverstein was on the phone to his insurance company pushing for the building to be demolished"

"a controlled demolition, which would place Silverstein’s insurance payout in severe jeopardy if ever acknowledged."

But why would the insurance payout he'd presumably cleared with the insurance company be in severe jeopardy if publicly acknowledged?
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby Jeff » Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:53 pm

Another clip from the same documentary clearly illustrates that the term “pull” is industry jargon for a controlled demolition.


Misleading. It's not a term for an explosive demolition. Building 6 was pulled down by cables.

I'm evidently missing another Alex Jones bombshell here. Silverstein was talking to his insurance guys on 9/11. Building 7 was expected to fall.

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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby tazmic » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:03 pm

"But why would the insurance payout he'd presumably cleared with the insurance company be in severe jeopardy if publicly acknowledged?"

sorry, I get it now. Being a bit slow...
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby elfismiles » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:11 pm

Jeff wrote:
Another clip from the same documentary clearly illustrates that the term “pull” is industry jargon for a controlled demolition.


Misleading. It's not a term for an explosive demolition. Building 6 was pulled down by cables.

I'm evidently missing another Alex Jones bombshell here. Silverstein was talking to his insurance guys on 9/11. Building 7 was expected to fall.

:shrug:


I've argued that angle myself Jeff (pull as a generic term for both explosively demolishing a building AND as a literal cable-enabled operation). Though I have a tough time imagining such a cable-pull type of pulling resulting in the images we've seen of that building coming down.

Perhaps the "bombshell" is catching Silverstein (and the media) in a case of insurance fraud.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby isachar » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:37 pm

Jeff wrote:
Another clip from the same documentary clearly illustrates that the term “pull” is industry jargon for a controlled demolition.


Misleading. It's not a term for an explosive demolition. Building 6 was pulled down by cables.

I'm evidently missing another Alex Jones bombshell here. Silverstein was talking to his insurance guys on 9/11. Building 7 was expected to fall.

:shrug:


Clueless as ever I see.

It's what they were talking about that's of interest here. What means did they have to pull, demolish or otherwise assist this structure to fall at that time, and within a few hours of the damage having occurred?

But then, a high school physics teacher using physics tool kit software has already definitively established free fall speed of WTC7's collapse for several seconds, utterly demolishing NIST's coverup. This alone is all the evidence necessary to establish the building was brought down purposely and with intent.

Only the means, method and nature of the specific crimes are in question.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby Jeff » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:44 pm

"since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall”


How can this pass without comment?

Nevermind. Have a nice thread.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby swindled69 » Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:59 pm

Jeff wrote:
"since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall”


How can this pass without comment?

Nevermind. Have a nice thread.



It shouldn't Jeff but if one should comment, they should comment with the proper context within the statement as a whole.


“Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building – since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall.”
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby isachar » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:00 pm

Jeff wrote:
"since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall”


How can this pass without comment?

Nevermind. Have a nice thread.


Uh, care to explain how a structural engineer competent to assess the status of the buildings foundation had been able to make that assessment while fires were still burning? Obviously, they could not have done so.

Not even NIST has claimed to my knowledge that the foundation of the building was unstable. Furthermore, a foundation would not 'fall', as it's already IN THE GROUND.

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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby swindled69 » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:06 pm

Jeff wrote:
"since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall”


How can this pass without comment?

Nevermind. Have a nice thread.



It shouldn't Jeff but if one should comment, they should comment with the proper context within the statement as a whole.


“Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building – since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall.”


For me this goes a long way for plausible explanations if proof positive ever came out that the Towers were demolished......something a long the lines of.....oh wait, they just said it....


“A controlled demolition would have minimized the damage caused by the building’s imminent collapse and potentially save lives. Many law enforcement personnel, firefighters and other journalists were aware of this possible option. There was no secret. There was no conspiracy,


All you gotta do is step back and think that if say those buildings fell to the left of the right, the carnage and devastation would of been horrendous.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby Simulist » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:17 pm

isachar wrote:Clueless as ever I see.

[...]

Nitwit.

What a classy person you're not, Isachar.

Even if you are 100% right about Building 7, you've overshadowed your own "truth" by your rude ineptitude.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby isachar » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:30 pm

Simulist wrote:
isachar wrote:Clueless as ever I see.

[...]

Nitwit.

What a classy person you're not, Isachar.

Even if you are 100% right about Building 7, you've overshadowed your own "truth" by your rude ineptitude.


Yeah, and 'have a nice thread' isn't an invitation to being called out for being a nitwit?

Let's just play this out. So now we have Jeff, one of the leading attackers of 'twoofers' now suggesting that WTC7 was brought down on purpose after several years of his attacking those who have suggested that this is indeed what occurred?

And, my memory is long enough for me to recall some posters on this board who were prescient enough to predict that once the OCT was thoroughly discredited, that just this suggestion - e.g. the demo was purposeful but it was done to prevent further damage - would be made.

So, no, it doesn't surprise me that Jeff is now spooning this garbage. Which is what it is. Garbage spooned by nitwits.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby Jeff » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:54 pm

isachar wrote:Let's just play this out. So now we have Jeff, one of the leading attackers of 'twoofers' now suggesting that WTC7 was brought down on purpose after several years of his attacking those who have suggested that this is indeed what occurred


I did? Didn't mean to. I haven't changed my view. If I ever do, I won't be shy about saying so.

Isachar? Less assholism, please.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby isachar » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:59 pm

Jeff wrote:
isachar wrote:Let's just play this out. So now we have Jeff, one of the leading attackers of 'twoofers' now suggesting that WTC7 was brought down on purpose after several years of his attacking those who have suggested that this is indeed what occurred


I did? Didn't mean to. I haven't changed my view. If I ever do, I won't be shy about saying so.

Isachar? Less assholism, please.


OK, then I supposed you wouldn't mind responding to the following:

"care to explain how a structural engineer competent to assess the status of the buildings foundation had been able to make that assessment while fires were still burning? Obviously, they could not have done so.

"What means did they have to pull, demolish or otherwise assist this structure to fall at that time, and within a few hours of the damage having occurred?"

"Not even NIST has claimed to my knowledge that the foundation of the building was unstable. Furthermore, a foundation would not 'fall', as it's already IN THE GROUND.""

"And, my memory is long enough for me to recall some posters on this board who were prescient enough to predict that once the OCT was thoroughly discredited, that just this suggestion - e.g. the demo was purposeful but it was done to prevent further damage - would be made."

After all, you are the one who suggested this shouldn't be allowed to go by.

How about less 'have a nice thread"ism assholism, please? If you don't like getting stung, then don't go poking a stick into a hive.

And while we're being all nice nice, perhaps you'd care to explain what you mean by this from upthread:

"Silverstein was talking to his insurance guys on 9/11. Building 7 was expected to fall."
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