Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby isachar » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:03 pm

apologydue wrote:
b) CD is not a necessary component of 9/11 skepticism and there are those of us who with good reason prefer to treat it that way;


Idiocy flocks and sticks to the flypaper of many salient points. It is typically the job of the truthful astute to lead or flick the idiots from the flypaper instead of throwing the salient point itself out with the bathwater. Instead of defending the salient point you have tarnished it with the brush of the idiots.


911, within our current historical frame of reference, is the only crime that still contains the power to utterly devastate and destroy the status quo power structure, and CD is the lynch pin upon which it rests. This is so because it is the only easily demonstrable evidence that is easily understandable to the masses.

Most other crimes and conspiracies are welcome noise to the status quo power structure, as they gratefully use them for camouflage and deflection. In time, just like JFK, 911 CD will also lose its power as the smoking gun to utterly devastate the status quo power structure. This is so because the bulk of each new generation of the population views crimes of the past, after they have been historically revised, as something that no longer requires their scrutiny.

Until 911 CD loses its power to devastate the status quo power structure, people complicit in the preservation of the status quo power structure will busily protect the lynch pin, as they camouflage themselves by revealing many other crimes and conspiracies that no longer have the power to devastate the status quo power structure.

Silence on salient points is not necessarily protection of the status quo. Some speakers choose silence in an effort to protect their own houses, and for this reason I cannot fault those who know and are silent. Noam Chomsky comes to mind, and perhaps some in our present company.

There is a distinct difference between active promotion and silence, and here the difference is made.

Being a hero has devastating disadvantages that, understandably, many are not willing to shoulder. I might have to include myself in this group if I were the owner of an enterprise that traded in information that relates to the truth. We are all very brave until our mettle is tested, and few people have had their mettle tested by the fire of true power.


I would urge all to read apologydue's words again, and again, until you've fully understood their implications.

Jack R - you've raised the right questions. Though it appears to elude you that over the last several years Jeff has constantly, persistently, and consistently denigrated any and all who have suggested that CD/assisted collapse is a worthwhile area of inquiry.

Yet here we now have independent confirmation that CD was discussed by one of the principals involved in the hours preceding the collapse of WTC 7. Nevertheless, Jeff's attitude, as demonstrated above, (emblematic of many others) continues to be 'move along, nothing to see here'.

This revelation not only puts CD on the table, but front and center, particularly as freefall speed has been documented for several seconds of the duration of the collapse of WTC7.

Your info placing the military personnel trained and skilled in demo at the scene of the crime is very useful and adds further to putting CD front and center.

Your government lies to you regularly. It's what they do best, and it's about all they have left.

But it's all phony. 911, cd, health care reform , the perception that SEC acts in the public interest, the money you have in your purse, the FED, mortgage securities, Operation Iraqi Freedom, Al-Qaeda, the Bill of Rights, Habeus Corpus, torture and rendition keep you safe, the MSM, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. It's ALL FAKE.

Spontaneous collapse of 3 steel frame skyscrapers.... FAKE. Free fall speeds that have been documented to have been achieved during several seconds o WTC7's collapse event prove that, even if one's conditioning and enfeebled brain cannot process. Unfortunately, that's not even the worst of it.

People cling to their beliefs, religion, their pre-conditioning and 'truth', and the lies they've been fed as that's how their brains have been conditioned and how they organize their world and maintain their ability to function... That's human nature and only a minority are able to rise above it.

Others, like Jeff, feel compelled to feed them. Jeff is one of the best.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby streeb » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:16 pm

Your government lies to you regularly. It's what they do best, and it's about all they have left.

But it's all phony. 911, cd, health care reform , the perception that SEC acts in the public interest, the money you have in your purse, the FED, mortgage securities, Operation Iraqi Freedom, Al-Qaeda, the Bill of Rights, Habeus Corpus, torture and rendition keep you safe, the MSM, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. It's ALL FAKE.


Totally right. And you think the problem is Jeff?
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby isachar » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:18 pm

streeb wrote:
Your government lies to you regularly. It's what they do best, and it's about all they have left.

But it's all phony. 911, cd, health care reform , the perception that SEC acts in the public interest, the money you have in your purse, the FED, mortgage securities, Operation Iraqi Freedom, Al-Qaeda, the Bill of Rights, Habeus Corpus, torture and rendition keep you safe, the MSM, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. It's ALL FAKE.


Totally right. And you think the problem is Jeff?


Streeb, Jeff isn't the the illness he's a vector.

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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby barracuda » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:20 pm

isachar wrote:Others, like Jeff, feel compelled to feed them. Jeff is one of the best.


Isachar, please keep in mind...

Suggesting a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation is not permitted.

That goes for Jeff as well. Kindly take heed.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby Simulist » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:25 pm

Thank you. The guy gives us this rare place to chat with other (fairly) like-minded people — free of charge — is unfailingly polite, and his reward is this kind of crap?

Not only are these attacks cheap, they are also unfair.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby isachar » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:29 pm

barracuda wrote:
isachar wrote:Others, like Jeff, feel compelled to feed them. Jeff is one of the best.


Isachar, please keep in mind...

Suggesting a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation is not permitted.

That goes for Jeff as well. Kindly take heed.


fuck off you pussy-nanny.

Vector, vector, vector, vector.

Oh, and thanks Jeff for giving us a place to 'chat'. I prefer to think of this as something more than chatting, however. Rather, what we're doing here is probably the most important conversation anyone or group of people could be having at the present time. Maybe the nannies and the other crybabies might like to visit http://www.clubpenguin.com. I'm sure they could suck up to the penguins there just as well. And perhaps they'd permit us to continue without further interference or censorship.

BTW, I've never observed Jeff to be a crybaby. He's a big boy and I fully recognize, honor and respect him for that.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby nathan28 » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:30 pm

apologydue wrote:I've done these discussions in venus past, and I prefer to quote myself again and leave your argument to languish in its weakness. No offense JR., we all do what we gotta do right? I mean that sincerely, as I have no idea what your circumstances are.

There is a distinct difference between active promotion and silence, and here the difference is made.


WTF does any of this mean? As far as I can gather even those of us with a distaste for CD excepting Jeff have actually attempted to engage with the content of the Fox story in the OP, whereas the CDtards have come out of the woodwork with "I told you so!!!" but can't so much as tell us WTF it is that's told so.



I'm not planning to wear this thread out with logic. Been there done that. I value my freedom. This was just a good natured poke.


It also doesn't look like you plan on wearing this thread out with nuance or commitment to understanding, either, because they might get in the way of kneejerk reactions like uncritical acceptance of any PrisonPlanet dumpster-diving tablescrap as a delicacy.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby isachar » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:36 pm

nathan28 wrote:
apologydue wrote:I've done these discussions in venus past, and I prefer to quote myself again and leave your argument to languish in its weakness. No offense JR., we all do what we gotta do right? I mean that sincerely, as I have no idea what your circumstances are.

There is a distinct difference between active promotion and silence, and here the difference is made.


WTF does any of this mean? As far as I can gather even those of us with a distaste for CD excepting Jeff have actually attempted to engage with the content of the Fox story in the OP, whereas the CDtards have come out of the woodwork with "I told you so!!!" but can't so much as tell us WTF it is that's told so.



I'm not planning to wear this thread out with logic. Been there done that. I value my freedom. This was just a good natured poke.


It also doesn't look like you plan on wearing this thread out with nuance or commitment to understanding, either, because they might get in the way of kneejerk reactions like uncritical acceptance of any PrisonPlanet dumpster-diving tablescrap as a delicacy.


Not sustained.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby nathan28 » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:37 pm

isachar wrote:
barracuda wrote:
isachar wrote:Others, like Jeff, feel compelled to feed them. Jeff is one of the best.


Isachar, please keep in mind...

Suggesting a poster is purposefully spreading disinformation is not permitted.

That goes for Jeff as well. Kindly take heed.


fuck off you pussy-nanny.

Vector, vector, vector, vector.



Oh boo fucking hoo. It's awful, terrible. Imagine if Jeff *were* an agent! Wow, he pays the rent for me to post useless shit to the internet! OMG '"THEY" HAVE MY NEIGHBOR'S ISP! ONOZ THEY COMING TO GET ME!!!11!

Hate to break this to you, but I already know RI is a waste of my time. I wonder when the gov't bureau that allegedly pays for the server fees here will learn it's a waste of theirs. Because, seriously, Jeff's Satanic Panic 2K Remix is already a painful enough lesson in how nightmares are more true than reality, and I think he's pretty clear about that himself, but maybe you missed those parts.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby barracuda » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:39 pm

isachar wrote:fuck off you pussy-nanny.


Try this one, then:

Please refrain from directing obscenities towards other board members in the body of the post.

I'm a nanny, alright. Once more, and you're getting a timeout, little boy. Try me.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby nathan28 » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:40 pm

isachar wrote:
nathan28 wrote:
apologydue wrote:I've done these discussions in venus past, and I prefer to quote myself again and leave your argument to languish in its weakness. No offense JR., we all do what we gotta do right? I mean that sincerely, as I have no idea what your circumstances are.

There is a distinct difference between active promotion and silence, and here the difference is made.


WTF does any of this mean? As far as I can gather even those of us with a distaste for CD excepting Jeff have actually attempted to engage with the content of the Fox story in the OP, whereas the CDtards have come out of the woodwork with "I told you so!!!" but can't so much as tell us WTF it is that's told so.



I'm not planning to wear this thread out with logic. Been there done that. I value my freedom. This was just a good natured poke.


It also doesn't look like you plan on wearing this thread out with nuance or commitment to understanding, either, because they might get in the way of kneejerk reactions like uncritical acceptance of any PrisonPlanet dumpster-diving tablescrap as a delicacy.


Not sustained.


By aligning so strongly with CD theories you refuse to acknowledge that any non-CD approach has value. And you have a nasty case of confirmation bias--you might want to get it looked at--because I can't help but notice that in this thread it's been people like me, who are skeptical of "CD IS KEY!!!" claims, who have displayed more curiosity than those of you who already think you figured it out. I don't expect you or your fellow-travelers to acknowledge any of this. Have fun watching your WTC collapse deathporn on repeat.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby nathan28 » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:41 pm

barracuda wrote:
isachar wrote:fuck off you pussy-nanny.


Try this one, then:

Please refrain from directing obscenities towards other board members in the body of the post.

I'm a nanny, alright. Once more, and you're getting a timeout, little boy. Try me.



Now that this is getting kinky, I'm kind of hesitant to log off, but will anyway. Take pictures.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby isachar » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:43 pm

barracuda wrote:
isachar wrote:fuck off you pussy-nanny.


Try this one, then:

Please refrain from directing obscenities towards other board members in the body of the post.

I'm a nanny, alright. Once more, and you're getting a timeout, little boy. Try me.


Barracuda, suggest you do a search for 'fuck-off' and then go and get all of them. Ride 'em cowboy.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby isachar » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:45 pm

nathan28 wrote:
isachar wrote:
nathan28 wrote:
apologydue wrote:I've done these discussions in venus past, and I prefer to quote myself again and leave your argument to languish in its weakness. No offense JR., we all do what we gotta do right? I mean that sincerely, as I have no idea what your circumstances are.

There is a distinct difference between active promotion and silence, and here the difference is made.


WTF does any of this mean? As far as I can gather even those of us with a distaste for CD excepting Jeff have actually attempted to engage with the content of the Fox story in the OP, whereas the CDtards have come out of the woodwork with "I told you so!!!" but can't so much as tell us WTF it is that's told so.



I'm not planning to wear this thread out with logic. Been there done that. I value my freedom. This was just a good natured poke.


It also doesn't look like you plan on wearing this thread out with nuance or commitment to understanding, either, because they might get in the way of kneejerk reactions like uncritical acceptance of any PrisonPlanet dumpster-diving tablescrap as a delicacy.


Not sustained.


By aligning so strongly with CD theories you refuse to acknowledge that any non-CD approach has value. And you have a nasty case of confirmation bias--you might want to get it looked at--because I can't help but notice that in this thread it's been people like me, who are skeptical of "CD IS KEY!!!" claims, who have displayed more curiosity than those of you who already think you figured it out. I don't expect you or your fellow-travelers to acknowledge any of this. Have fun watching your WTC collapse deathporn on repeat.


Nonsense. Please read Apologydue's prior post. Repeat.
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Re: Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

Postby barracuda » Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:00 am

isachar wrote:Barracuda, suggest you do a search for 'fuck-off' and then go and get all of them. Ride 'em cowboy.


That's not really how it works, though, dude. I'm going to let you perform that research project during your vacation from posting here instead.
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