Bombshell: Silverstein Wanted To Demolish Building 7 On 9/11

[Canadian_watcher]

nathan,

I didn't mean anything by my post other than to agree that we sit among people who really dont' care about the things we speculate about - and who still wouldn't care if we could PROVE what we're speculating about. I find that lonely. I thought the point about looking up at the clouds was well made, and I identify with it. I look, but rarely say "gee those are unnatural. Why is that plane making a trail and that one.. not?"

Anyway, FWIW (and that isn't much) I also think that the buildings were all brought down in controlled demolition. To me there isn't any debate. I Flat out can not comprehend how anyone would believe otherwise. My mind boggles. We all saw it, we've all read reports from architects & engineers and people that were there. It doesn't seem implausible to me that the buildings were pre-rigged. I dont' think that would be that difficult to do. it would take a few weeks of concerted effort by teams dressed as telephone repair men, maintenance men, regular office workers, etc.

It's perfectly logical to me that there were people who knew the towers were going to be hit by planes for a long period before 9/11/01. I mean the stock market tells us so, the FBI felt they knew, the French government warned the US about the chatter they'd heard. And even if there was no US gov't involvement (which there clearly WAS, imho) the planners themselves obviously knew of their own plan and the grapevine attached to them would have caught wind. So.. Silverstein probably knew, too, seeing as he over-insured his buildings against terrorist actions in the preceding week and had only a month or two earlier wrangled the lease of the buildings from the Port Authority.

I don't know if he was party to the attacks or just an opportunist. I suspect the latter. But he must be connected to the planners in one way or another, and that's why he's an important figure.

All that being said - too many people just don't care, and there are plenty of people who would truly believe that Silverstein in a genius for getting that much money out of the deal, especially considering that he got all his equity investment back in 2003 - meaning that he exchanged nothing, ultimately, for all the returns he got.

[beeline]

I spent some time, this AM, looking for a source that supports the impression that I had (re. the BBC requested the removal of the videos from Google)... and wasn't able to find any.

So I'll retract that specific, earlier contention of mine. Until and if I find a source later.

23, if it helps, I have that recollection also, that the BBC video was pulled from YouTube at some point. I do not, however, have documentation of this, only that I read that on another thread here, and at the time I tried to find the video on YouTube myself and could not.

[Mask]

FWIW, here's an article from (gasp) PP :

You Tube Expands 9/11 Truth Purge

You Tube has permanently suspended another major 9/11 truth account in a continuation of the purge that began following efforts by the establishment to smear the 9/11 truth movement as terrorist propaganda.

You Tube has previously been caught blocking 9/11 truth videos from entering into top ranking charts for both views and comments despite their enduring popularity.

It also has a record of wanton censorship in deleting videos that are artistically crafted compilations and the furthest possible thing from copyright violation, such as the “Question Your Reality” video.

You Tube has now completely deleted the “OneDeadDJ” user account, which was used to display videos on Prison Planet.com, and in particular video clips relating to the BBC reporting the collapse of Building 7 over 20 minutes in advance.

Upon attempting to login to the account, one is met with the message, “Your account has been permanently disabled”. No explanation as to why is given.

One of the videos deleted by You Tube, which features in the article “BBC Reported Building 7 Collapse 20 Minutes Before It Fell,” had over 1 million views and nearly 45,000 comments before it was pulled this week.

The same clip can still be found on You Tube by using the search function, but the deletion of the original means that the video will now be dead on thousands of websites and blogs that picked it up when the story first broke.

When one attempts to play the clip, the message “This video has been removed due to terms of use violation” is displayed. No doubt that the BBC has demanded You Tube remove the video in an attempt to hide its embarrasment at the WTC 7 fiasco, which it clumsily attempted to resolve by producing two seperate hit piece documentaries against 9/11 truth.

The fact that the video is brief, is implicitly newsworthy, and has been used for the purposes of an article which is inherantly in the wider public interest, precludes any notion of copyright violation. This is blatantly an example of “fair use”.

You Tube users started noticing an increase in account suspensions and videos being removed following a demand from Senator Joe Lieberman that You Tube remove all content deemed “terrorist propaganda”.

As we saw at a House Homeland Security Subcommittee hearing on “Terrorism and the Internet” in November 2007, questioning the official 9/11 story behind 9/11 is now being classified as aiding terrorist propaganda by some sectors of the establishment.

During the hearing, representatives formerly of the RAND Corporation and the Simon Wiesenthal Center showed images of WTC 7 and a screenshot from the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth site in an attempt to link 9/11 truth with violent jihadists.

Please take a moment to complain to You Tube about the deletion of the “OneDeadDJ” user account and demand it be reinstated. To make a complaint call +1 650-253-0000 (please be polite).

Link

[Jeff]

You Tube has now completely deleted the “OneDeadDJ” user account, which was used to display videos on Prison Planet.com, and in particular video clips relating to the BBC reporting the collapse of Building 7 over 20 minutes in advance.

http://www.youtube.com/user/onedeaddj#p ... 7SwOT29gbc

[17breezes]

You Tube has now completely deleted the “OneDeadDJ” user account, which was used to display videos on Prison Planet.com, and in particular video clips relating to the BBC reporting the collapse of Building 7 over 20 minutes in advance.

http://www.youtube.com/user/onedeaddj#p ... 7SwOT29gbc

Double oops!

[Nordic]

That's why prison planet isn't worth the electrons it's printed on.

[swindled69]

I think that's really naive to believe that, if CD was invloved, TPTB who pulled it off would make it look exactly like a regular building demolition. That would be a little too obvious for the crime of the century.

I mean honestly, if this was a planned out attack, wouldn't you want the demolition of the towers to at least appear to be the cause of an airliner hitting the building. I think so.

Like I said before, I talked extensively with my friend about the buildings and how you demo buildings and there is an exact science to bring a building down in it's own footprint but it's not the only way. You can blow a building a variety of ways to get the effect or look that you want.
I think a big problem with the CD discussion is that it's too black and white when, obviously, there is a lot of grey area. If you watch the multitude of video's of them coming down you certainly see brief periodic flashes of what could be charges but in contrast if you watch a Reg building Demo you see LOTS of flashes because the buildings are PACKED with explosives.
What CD-theorists really need is someone to digitally create a program with the Towers and blow them up in various ways. They can digitally create so many things these days that it is certainly not out of the question to do so.

For me Building 7 is enough circumstantial evidence to give a credible thought to the Demo for the Towers. The really crazy thing is a lot of folks seem to just conveniently forget the countless other inconsistencies in the weeks prior too, the morning of and the weeks after Sept. 11th that go a long way to prove that there was most definitely prior knowledge.

Take a step back and think if these instances, gather them in your mind THEN ask yourself is it possible that these buildings could of been demolished. For me the answer is yes without a doubt but expecting to find definitive evidence for CD is like trying to find definitive evidence that Jesus Christ was the Son of God. There is none.

In the end it's all about Faith really and I have complete faith not in Jesus but that the crooked fuckers that are controlling the world could also demolish those buildings right under our noses and through our TV Sets.

[Mask]

You Tube has now completely deleted the “OneDeadDJ” user account, which was used to display videos on Prison Planet.com, and in particular video clips relating to the BBC reporting the collapse of Building 7 over 20 minutes in advance.

http://www.youtube.com/user/onedeaddj#p ... 7SwOT29gbc

So, what is it? A bold lie from PP (wouldn't be the first time) or something which was true a year ago and has since changed?

I forgot to add the date of the article: Friday, January 23, 2009

Some people here were under the impression that at some point Youtube had censored the BBC video, and this article supports that impression.
Maybe Youtube realized that they'd better leave that channel running or be flooded with duplicated videos from the PP crew, or something to that effect?

Whatever.

[82_28]

Had WTC 7 not come down in the fashion in which it did, perhaps there would be, say, 50% less legs to the theory that WTC 1 & 2 were brought down by controlled demolition. This whole act had to have been vetted in some way, by someone as to the effect it would cause immediately after the "attacks". The most populated few square miles in America, all of them with cameras, all of the people scared and confused. WTC7 was kind of an exclamation point -- a way to round out the day. A way to set the NEW record straight. It was an act of control, much as the wars that followed were. Plus, it destroyed supposed evidence of the plot.

NYC has always seemed impermeable to generations, centuries of people. There is, as we know, a NYC mystique. Somebody funneled that mystique into a different direction. As goes NYC -- so goes the US. And off we went in the new direction.

[chump]

Synchronicity. Has anybody here read Christopher Bollyn's book? I've been reading his blog, http://www.bollyn.com/, for years. It is a tremendous resource, but I don't remember seeing much, if anything, about him here. He has been at the forefront rigorously investigating the events of 9/11 since the day it happened. I'm sure that this up to date interview with Bollyn will make everybody nod in agreement. Listen to it twice.

Among the revelations that he discusses:

*The dancing Israelis arrested after videotaping the towers on 9/11 worked for a mossad front "clearly involved in what happened on 9/11".

*The molten iron/steel in the basements of all three WTC buildings that collapsed.

*Nodules of molten iron and evidence of thermite in the dust samples.

*Bollyn's arrest for resisting arrest in front of his home in Chicago.

*A description on why the super thermite must have been applied to the metal floorpans beneath the concrete floors. Smoke that lasted for months were "an aluminum thermic reaction" of residual thermite, were also anayzed to contain iron.

* The Odigo story.

*Bollyn says Ehud Barak is the "Chief architect of 9/11", and he details "Israeli" involvement in the 9/11 plot and the subsequent cover-up - pointing out the following quote (from Bollyn's website):

"IT IS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT CERTAIN that 9-11 was a Mossad operation - period."
- Dr. Alan Sabrosky

"If these Americans and those like them ever fully understand just how much of their suffering - and the suffering we have inflicted on others - is properly laid on the doorsteps of Israel and its advocates in America, they will sweep aside those in politics, the press and the pulpits alike whose lies and disloyalty brought this about and concealed it from them. They may well leave Israel looking like Carthage after the Romans finished with it. It will be Israel’s own great fault."

- Alan Sabrosky, "Treason, Betrayal and Deceit: 9/11 and Beyond", Sept. 10, 2009
Sabrosky (Ph.D, University of Michigan) is a ten-year U.S. Marine Corps veteran and a graduate of the US Army War College.

Bollyn:
The demolition of WTC 7 is the event that revealed to Dr. Alan Sabrosky and Dr. Steven Jones (and many others) that the official version of 9-11 is a pack of lies. Destroying WTC 7 was obviously crucial to the whole false-flag terror operation. There are two main explanations for this. First, it may have housed equipment and personnel that played a role in the destruction of the WTC towers, for example in the specially fortified bunker on the 22nd or 23rd floor. Secondly, it housed the offices of federal agencies involved in investigations of serious financial crimes. The destruction of the evidence would have been crucial in both cases. The vault beneath WTC 6 held much of the evidence for the federal agencies in WTC 7 and this vault was evidently cleaned out the night before 9-11, according to Kurt Sonnenfeld, the FEMA photographer who looked into it. The Zionist perpetrators have complete confidence that they could get away with this because of their control of our government and media, as you say, but the real key was having control of the buildings prior to 9-11 and having Michael Chertoff in the key position to control the destruction of the evidence and non-investigation of the crime.

WTC 7 was owned by Larry Silverstein and had been built with Israeli contractors in the mid-1980s, when the Zionist plan for the destruction of the WTC had already been developed. The main strategic reason for the Israeli false-flag terror of 9-11 was to usher in the "War on Terror" and bring the U.S. military into the Middle East on a permanent basis - to protect Israel's hegemony in the region. See: "America the Target: 9-11 and Israel's History of False Flag Terrorism"
http://www.bollyn.com/america-the-targe ... -terrorism

*Bollyn also discusses his label as a "anti-semite" and the difference betweeen Zionists and Jews and Israelis.

* much, much more...

http://970knuu.com/Local%20Shows/Keepin ... 3-2010.mp3

[Jeff]

So, what is it? A bold lie from PP (wouldn't be the first time) or something which was true a year ago and has since changed?

Tough call. Prison Planet is a riddle, wrapped in hyperbole, inside a hyena that loves playing the Help I'm being repressed! card.

My kids liked to watch Scooby Doo videos on Youtube. One day, all the clips were scrubbed and the channels shut down. I didn't tell them, Well gang, looks like we have a mystery on our hands. I think it had something to do with violation of terms of service and use of copyrighted material. I expected that's why "OneDeadDJ" had his account suspended. For how long, I don't know, but there it is, with more than a million hits.

Some people here were under the impression that at some point Youtube had censored the BBC video, and this article supports that impression.

The article likely engendered that impression. And I guess still does, since it's still up and uncorrected, and even now some people simply take pp's word for it.

Maybe Youtube realized that they'd better leave that channel running or be flooded with duplicated videos from the PP crew, or something to that effect?

They aren't anyway?

Whatever.

That is often the final word in these threads. Whatever - it was cd.

[Nordic]

Agreed, 82, and The Powers That Be seem very fond of their "cleverness" in a sadistic way.

The fact that the buidlings came down in "CD" fashion and nobody said squat about it for quite a while, well, they were probably chortling about that. They probably still are laughing their asses off about it.

Same with the date -- 9/11. C'mon. Don't forget that 9/11 figures prominently not only with the CIA but with the whole "million points of light" thing (or whatever it was, my coffee's still kicking in).

There are plenty of nasty little jokes hidden in the terror of 9/11.

[Nordic]

If it's so difficult to tell the wheat from the chaff at prisonplanet, and so difficult to tell the info from the disinfo, why bother with it at all?

The whole place, and its ads, seem to be nothing but conspira-porn.

I mean, to each his own, but if you have to take everything from them with a large grain of salt, they might as well be the government.

[swindled69]

That is often the final word in these threads. Whatever - it was cd.

That might be the last thing said but there is plenty of "whatever.....it wasn't CD" attitudes as well and in the end they are two sides to the 9/11 coin.

The metal that makes up that coin is the devil in the details. Find out the composition of such and you have your circumstantial evidence and a case for CD.

[Jeff]

Has anybody here read Christopher Bollyn's book? I've been reading his blog, http://www.bollyn.com/, for years. It is a tremendous resource, but I don't remember seeing much, if anything, about him here.

Here's some:

I'm weary of telling people that American Free Press, Truthseeker.co.uk, and Christopher Bollyn are all anti-semitic sources as newbies latch on to them for the first time.

viewtopic.php?p=135396#p135396

Like Gouda, I have never considered Eric Hufschmid and Christopher Bollyn at all respectable either. I wonder whether the author of the original piece is naive, misinformed or disingenous.

viewtopic.php?p=146898#p146898

When you cut and paste long passages but leave out the byline and it turns out to be something by Christopher Bollyn (or in this case, the fact that your second link sources Gordon Thomas), I will call you on the deceptive practice.

viewtopic.php?p=293549#p293549

It should be clear to most anyone who knows much about the conspiracy world that not only is the site linked to one post above- Rumor Mill News, is disseminating a lot of crap but that in particular the author of that piece, Christopher Bollyn, is responsible for writing a lot of very questionable material.

That said, I don't know enough about Ptech nor about the Jewish scientist that Bollyn focuses on to say how true or false any particular facts cited by Bollyn are- it may well be that the problem is in Bollyn's emphasis as much as anything else. But it certainly is important to point out that Rumor Mill News and Christopher Bollyn are not what should be considered "good sources"...

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Though vigilant, I recall, was a big fan.