David Paul Hammer May 01, 2010| FBI, Militia, Oklahoma City Bombing | Scott Horton
Death row inmate David Paul Hammer, author of Deadly Secrets: Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing, discusses the mysterious “Major” and “Poindexter” characters that Timothy McVeigh claimed help instigate and advance the Oklahoma City bombing plot, Andreas Strassmeir’s role in leading the Aryan Republican Army’s military wing, why McVeigh believed that his execution would be faked – and therefore didn’t want an autopsy, Hammer’s claim that FBI agents offered him a life sentence in exchange for holding back his book, the strict limitations on media interviews of death row inmates despite court decisions allowing them, the FBI PATCON plan to infiltrate and discredit right-wing militia movements in the 1990s, the Southern Poverty Law Center’s connection to Elohim City informants and why John Does two and three were most likely Richard Guthrie and Michael Brescia.
David Paul Hammer is a prisoner on death row at Terre Haute prison, Indiana. During the time when Timothy McVeigh occupied a cell adjacent to his, Hammer claims McVeigh relayed numerous details about the Oklahoma City bombing.
Hammer is the author of the 2004 book Secrets Worth Dying For: Timothy James McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing and the new book Deadly Secrets: Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing.
...McVeigh believed that his execution would be faked...
As crazy as this faked execution idea might sound, I can't totally dismiss it.
Susan Carlson, a "media witness" at McVeigh's execution remarked about his complete absence of fear prior to his death and how his breathing seemed to continue even after he was pronounced dead.
She was interviewed shortly after the execution by MSNBC, where she made these remarks.
"The most strongly enforced of all known taboos is the taboo against knowing who or what you really are behind the mask of your apparently separate, independent, and isolated ego."
...McVeigh believed that his execution would be faked...
As crazy as this faked execution idea might sound, I can't totally dismiss it.
Susan Carlson, a "media witness" at McVeigh's execution remarked about his complete absence of fear prior to his death and how his breathing seemed to continue even after he was pronounced dead.
She was interviewed shortly after the execution by MSNBC, where she made these remarks.
Now this is extremely interesting. I'd never heard any of it, but even after an exhumation there is still a controversy over whether the actual Oswald is buried in Fort Worth.
There is even a question of whether he was shot. He was wearing a dark sweater and nobody saw any blood at the scene.
McVeigh Video Destroys OKC Bombing Official Story Shows McVeigh was in military receiving instruction in "explosives and demolition" over a year after official story says he was discharged, whistleblower harassed for years while unknowingly in possession of bombshell tape
Prison Planet | December 18, 2006 Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones
A video that shows Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh at a U.S. military base that specializes in explosives and demolition training over a year after he supposedly left the army puts the official story of the April 19 1995 federal building bombing under serious doubt and mandates a re-opening of an investigation into the terror attack that killed 168 people.
The video was released by Bill Bean, a film producer who has suffered intense surveillance and harassment since taking the footage, and is the subject of a February 2007 Hustler Magazine feature story.
On August 3rd 1993, Bean was given a tour of the Camp Grafton military facility in North Dakota as part of a research effort to scout possible shooting locations for a film he was working on. Bean met the Camp Superintendent Col. Dahl and was permitted to film every location he visited.
Bean takes up the story, "I videotaped all locations as possible future shot sites even if there was no actual scene written for that location. Mess Hall, Rec Room, Armory, etc. About an hour into the tour we passed by a long row of tanks and I was informed these had been used in the Gulf War. In fact I believe I was told there were captured tanks there also. While videotaping and viewing this location, two soldiers began to offload what I was told was an armored personnel carrier from a flatbed. One soldier driving the other directing from the ground. I watched them for a moment and then did a slow 360 with my camera and came back to them."
Given permission to board the tank, Bean walked over and pointed the camera inside, at which point one of the soldiers turned around and, appearing somewhat shocked to see the camera, uttered a brief response to Bean's question and attempted to push past him.
That individual has now been positively identified to be Timothy McVeigh, who according to the official timeline as endorsed by the FBI, was honorably discharged from the military for the last time in May 1992. And yet he is seen here on tape at a U.S. military base over a year after that date in August of 1993.
"I did not realize how significant what I had was, for many years," states Bean, "It was not until Mcveigh's trial that I realized it was Mcveigh in the tank. Even then the larger point escaped me. That point is, McVeigh was not supposed to be in the military at that time. His military record shows him enlisting in 1988, being honorably discharged from the Army, on Dec. 31, 1991.
His records then show he was in the Army reserve in Buffalo New York, from January 1992 until May 1992, he was then honorably discharged from the Army reserve. After May of 1992 he was never again in uniform on any base anywhere, never again part of the military. He was totally out of military service. The FBI states the only time they lose track of McVeigh, in his entire life, is the late summer of 93. They think he was somewhere between Kingman Arizona and Decker Michigan. Probably at gun shows, meeting antigovernment rightwing militia types. But he wasn't, he was at Camp Grafton, in uniform, learning explosives and demolition!"
To confirm that the individual in the tape was indeed McVeigh, Bean presented the video to Prof. Blomgren of the University of Utah, who then undertook a voice forensics analysis. The results produced an 86% match for the voice characteristics heard in the video compared to those taken from a 60 Minutes interview with McVeigh.
Though in a response to Hustler the North Dakota National Guard denied McVeigh was ever present at Camp Grafton, they did confirm that demolitions training is part of the regimen at the facility.
Bean provided us with a list of suspicious telephone calls, examples of harassment and surveillance that he had been targeted for in the seven year period after filming McVeigh, starting in 1994. Much of the surveillance and spying occurred even before Bean became aware that he had filmed Timothy McVeigh.
"On Wed June 19th 2002, my mother who lived with me was talking to a relative in Washington state. The relative said the line sounded �strange� my mother said �Yea, the phone is tapped!� At that point the phone went dead," claims Bean.
"Or, look at January 14th Tues 2003. We lived on the third floor of an apt. building. A green station wagon, Illinois plates HYB115, parked down two doors and sat there with the engine on. For over 25 minutes a woman sat in the driver's seat looking up in our window. All the while she kept a running dialogue with someone who wasn't there. She held a device, thin, dark plastic or metal up to her mouth and then would read something on it. She did this for more than 25 minutes. When my mother who was suffering from cancer, walked into the room, I whispered in her ear what was happening. Being a sick old woman she said out loud, �who is looking in our window from a car?� At that point the woman shoved the car in gear and sped away tires screeching!�
The fact that McVeigh was still involved with the U.S. army long after his supposed honorable discharge only amplifies long-standing questions that severely undermine the official explanation behind the Oklahoma City bombing.
- In early April 1995 a Ryder truck identical to the one used in the bombing was filmed by a pilot during an overflight of of an area near Camp Gruber-Braggs , Oklahoma. A June 17th, 1997 Washington Post article authenticates the photos as being exactly what they appear to be, photos of a Ryder truck in a clandestine base at Camp Gruber-Braggs. Why were the military in possession of a Ryder truck housed in a remote clandestine army base days before the Alfred P. Murrah bombing?
- In a 1993 letter to his sister, McVeigh claimed that he was approached by military intelligence and had joined an "elite squad of government paid assassins." McVeigh often contradicted himself and changed his story on a whim to fit in with the latest government version of events. Is the Camp Grafton footage evidence of McVeigh's enrollment in such a clandestine program?
- The August 1993 footage neatly fills in an unexplained gap in McVeigh' timeline that even the FBI cannot explain. Was this gap deliberately left ignored to avoid a probe into McVeigh's activities at Camp Grafton?
- The FBI claimed McVeigh scouted the Alfred P. Murrah building weeks before the bombing and yet on the morning of the attack he stopped at a local gas station to ask directions.
- Multiple reports of Arabs at the scene assisting McVeigh were ignored and surveillance tapes were withheld under national security. The likely reason for this was the fact that Bush senior and Clinton were responsible for bringing in nearly 1,000 Iraqi soldiers captured by U.S. forces during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, some of whom were involved in the bombing.
- Original reports of two explosions and several failed devices being defused by bomb squads were buried by the establishment as the official explanation that McVeigh acted alone was pushed.
- Many eyewitnesses reported that bomb squads in full reaction gear were seen around the building immediately before the blast.
My name is Bill Bean I work in the film industry. I have information relevant to the Oklahoma City bombing. I did not approach anyone at the time of the trial because I did not understand the relevance of what I had. I am submitting this to Congressman Rohrabacher's office because of his stated interest in having hearings about what actually happened.
On August 3, 1993 I was given a tour of Camp Grafton North Dakota. Camp Grafton is a military training academy for National Guard and army reserve personnel. The instruction at Camp Grafton is in explosives and demolition. The tour was arraigned through Jeff Esslinger at the North Dakota Film Office. The original time of the tour was to be in the spring but due to severe flooding hitting the Midwest and central plains states that year the tour was postponed until August. The purpose of the tour was to look at locations in the state for a film I was producing entitled �Tennyson's Ride.�
While speaking with Jeff in Bismarck, Jeff suggested I visit Camp Grafton as a possible location site as my script called for several military bases and it was on the way to other locations I was visiting. I agreed, and a tour was arraigned for August 3, 1993. I met the Camp Superintendent Col. Dahl, who speaks on tape for my tour. I videotaped every location I went to and everyone I spoke to. Col. Dahl turned me over to Paul Osser billeting director who took me on the actual tour.
I videotaped all locations as possible future shot sites even if there was no actual scene written for that location. Mess Hall, Rec Room, Armory, etc. About an hour into the tour we passed by a long row of tanks and I was informed these had been used in the Gulf War. In fact I believe I was told there were captured tanks there also. While videotaping and viewing this location, two soldiers began to offload what I was told was an armored personnel carrier from a flatbed. One soldier driving the other directing from the ground. I watched them for a moment and then did a slow 360 with my camera and came back to them.
I believe I either asked if I could tape inside the tank or else Paul offered it to me, in any case when the tank was parked I walked over, �Camera Running� and entered the tank. The driver was closing the front hatch and did not hear me enter. When he turned and saw me it was evident that he was surprised and disturbed by my presence. I attempted to engage him in conversation as I had done to all the others I met. He was brusque and rude, even at the time I felt he was evasive. He attempted to push past me but as I was crouched in the porthole door in the rear he was not able to get by me. He immediately moved out of viewing range to my right. When I asked him what he did, he gave me some halfass answer about being a parts clerk. I was going to question him further as I had done the others I spoke to and videotaped, but then I thought,�Well maybe he has some Sergeant on his ass or something. So, I let him pass.
I videotaped other locations at the base and after about an hour or two left. That was the one and only time in my life I have ever been to Camp Grafton. That is the circumstance under which I interviewed and videotaped TIMOTHY MCVEIGH, the soldier in the tank.
First) this is Timothy McVeigh; there is no question about that. Videotaped from two feet away, every feature down to his crooked teeth is clearly evident. Concerning his teeth, his two front teeth, central incisors, are straight, those on either side, the lateral incisors, slant in. This tape was shown to a dentist who said, �This is as unique as a fingerprint!�
Second) A voice analysis was done on the soldier in the tank. His voice was compared to the known voice of Timothy McVeigh, taken from a 60 Minutes interview. It is an exact match. Various electronic and human tests were conducted to reach this conclusion.
Read enclosed Voice Forensics report. I suggest you contact Prof. Blomgren yourself. If you're not satisfied commission your own forensics report.
I did not realize how significant what I had was, for many years. It was not until Mcveigh's trial that I realized it was Mcveigh in the tank. Even then the larger point escaped me. That point is, McVeigh was not supposed to be in the Military at that time. His military record shows him enlisting in 1988, being honorably discharged from the Army, on Dec. 31, 1991. His records then show he was in the Army reserve in Buffalo New York, from January 1992 until May 1992, he was then honorably discharged from the Army reserve. After May of 1992 he was never again in uniform on any base anywhere, never again part of the military. He was totally out of military service. The FBI states the only time they loose track of McVeigh, in his entire life, is the late summer of 93. They think he was somewhere between Kingman Arizona and Decker Michigan. Probably at gun shows, meeting antigovernment rightwing militia types. But he wasn't, he was at Camp Grafton, in uniform, learning explosives and demolition!
The other aspect to this is the Surveillance and Harassment on me and others. Starting in 1994 I was allowed to know I my being watched. I have included a partial list of the thousand or so hang-up calls and harassment I received. As an example, and you can read this in the file. On Wed June 19 th 2002, my mother who lived with me was talking to a relative in Washington state. The relative said the line sounded �strange� my mother said �Yea, the phone is tapped!� At that point the phone went dead.
Or, look at January 14 th Tues 2003. We lived on the third floor of an apt. building. A green station wagon, Illinois plates HYB115, parked down two doors and sat there with the engine on. For over 25 minutes a woman sat in the driver's seat looking up in our window. All the while she kept a running dialogue with someone who wasn't there. She held a device,� thin, dark plastic or metal� up to her mouth and then would read something on it. She did this for more than 25 minutes. When my mother who was suffering from cancer, walked into the room, �I whispered in her ear� what was happening. Being a sick old woman she said out loud, �who is looking in our window from a car?� At that point the woman shoved the car in gear and sped away �tires screeching!�
Third) This brings me to the other photo I have included. The older man in the photo is USAF Captain George Rohm �spelling uncertain.� In 1996 this person had someone introduce us. After I knew him for a few months he told me he was retired MI. At this time I was undergoing all this harassment and had no idea why. I would not realize I had McVeigh on tape for a year or two. Capt. Rohm would allude to military investigations and other things that I had no idea what he was talking about. His wife once told me he was talking to a General in Washington DC about me the night before.
I have the list of calls and incidents. I have recorded many of these bizarre calls. I have videotaped cars following me, etc. I will go no further with this as no one really seems to care. Not the press or Lawyers. I merely include this as part of the events stemming from the McVeigh encounter.
Should you wish me to testify, I am quite willing.
How you and your staff wish to deal with this information is up to you. I am informing you this information is coming out in Hustler magazine on Dec. 15 th .
After Nightline and Frontline, 60 Minutes and 20/20. After years of submitting this information to newspapers and Lawyers, only Hustler chose to publish this information. As I said to them at the time,�I think it's sad that some skin magazine would be the only avenue to get this to the public!�
I will be making a documentary about the McVeigh situation and what happened in my life, and would like the opportunity to interview Congressman Rohrabacher about the Oklahoma City bombing at a future date. I will of course mention in my documentary that I supplied his office with all this information.
Michael Brescia (Xerox of photo available upon request) is the son of Mr. & Mrs. William M. Brescia, 859 Manatawna Avenue, Philadelphia, PA, 19128. Neither Mr. Brescia (a Philadelphia-area fire fighter) nor his wife will comment on their son or his movements. A graduate of LaSalle High School (215 233-2911), Brescia attended LaSalle University (215 951-1000) without graduating, although sources say he made inquiries about attending this fall.
Dead on.
While a high school student he reportedly was into survivalism,
Not that I remember. He was into speed metal, drumming, working in some restaraunt, the Nazi crap didn't rear it's head until college. But I wouldn't put it past his parents to have sown some of those seeds.
but in time he grew into the white supremacist movement. Sources familiar with his university career say he was the subject of a fraternity disciplinary hearing when he reportedly attempted to recruit his fellow frat brothers into a "white supremacist cell." Brescia left the university and Philadelphia shortly thereafter for a stay at that most bucolic of racist antisemite retreats: the Elohim City "Christian Identity" compound in Oklahoma.
True.
Michael Brescia was introduced to Elohim City by Mark Thomas, Aryan Nations' big shot in the eastern Pennsylvania area. Some of Mark's other buddies included the recently captured Midwest bank robbers who also hailed from eastern PA (more about them in an upcoming article).
Don't know who introduced him, but I do know he was handing out antisemetic holocaust-never-happened literature on La Salle U.'s campus the last time I saw him. I recall I told him, 'dude, this shit is gonna get you in trouble someday.'
Two of the pics that come up on your google image search are from my yearbook. Also, he wrote in my yearbook, which is creepy.
The end of WWII included a huge scandal involving a big bomb and a McVeigh. (It was cited in Steven CIA Spielberg's 'Jaws' to displace a Vietnam left-behind POW-MIA scandal.)
I'm sure this is why Timothy McVeigh was chosen to play his role as patsy for a big bombing. Because spookcraft includes the use of the name game to both subliminally reinforce the guilt of a patsy and displace an old problematic scandal that might, oh, interfere with recruiting.
These stills were pulled from video footage shot at Camp Grafton, North Dakota in 1993–just 18 months before the Oklahoma City bombing. They appear to show Timothy McVeigh at a base specializing in demolitions training at a time when the FBI claims he had no military affiliations.
