'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

[DoYouEverWonder]

It's as if the planet is saying, "You want oil? I'll give you oil..."

Ted Turner: Is God speaking in Gulf Coast spill?

Actually, this one is on BP who still wants to salvage the well, rather then destroy it. They don't give a shit if they destroy the Gulf of Mexico in the process.

[82_28]

It's as if the planet is saying, "You want oil? I'll give you oil..."

Ted Turner: Is God speaking in Gulf Coast spill?

And then just look upon those right wing fucks pounce upon it in the comments in that story. Jesus H Fucking Christ. It's getting outta control. Ted's Montana Grill is the bomb by the way, if you like bison. I try to go there every time I get back home to Denver. Ha! Ted Turner a "communist" -- as the commenting in that story goes. The motherfucker is a CAPTAIN OF INDUSTRY. Ughhhh. . .

[2012 Countdown]

I'm watching the local news this morning and images/video from Grand Isle are coming in. The prime fishing and crabbing area is fucked.
The oil is thick, dark, and viscus. My favorite spot to fish from land/surf was an area known as 'the rocks', a man made barrier that extends out into the gulf from the shore. Looks like 'the rocks' are covered in oil.
I've caught speckled trout two to the line (using a shad rig) there on SEVERAL occasions.

Damn.

[Gouda]

Crossposting:

Rand Paul: WH criticism of BP sounds 'un-American'

By MICHELE SALCEDO, Associated Press Writer Michele Salcedo, Associated Press Writer – 2 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Kentucky's Republican Senate candidate Rand Paul criticized President Barack Obama's handling of the Gulf oil spill Friday as putting "his boot heel on the throat of BP" and "really un-American."

Paul's defense of the oil company came during an interview in which he tried to explain his controversial take on civil rights law, an issue that has overtaken his campaign since his victory in Tuesday's GOP primary.

"What I don't like from the president's administration is this sort of, 'I'll put my boot heel on the throat of BP,'" Rand said in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America." "I think that sounds really un-American in his criticism of business."

...

On the oil spill, Paul, a libertarian and tea party darling, said he had heard nothing from BP indicating it wouldn't pay for the spill that threatens devastating environmental damage along the coast of the Gulf of Mexico.

"And I think it's part of this sort of blame-game society in the sense that it's always got to be somebody's fault instead of the fact that maybe sometimes accidents happen," Paul said.

The senate candidate referred to a Kentucky coal mine accident that killed two men, saying he had met with the families and he admired the coal miners' courage.

"We had a mining accident that was very tragic. ... Then we come in and it's always someone's fault. Maybe sometimes accidents happen," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100521/ap_ ... _rand_paul

[No_Baseline]

BP's incompetence, drilling at depths and pressures beyond their grasp, would make a great hubris myth. Maybe it will.

I haven't been able to shake the idea that 'Oil Man' is already woven into our folklore, and hundreds of years from now it will be told as a kind of backward alchemy myth - changing black gold into black death, something along those lines.

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Crossposting:

Rand Paul: WH criticism of BP sounds 'un-American'

By MICHELE SALCEDO, Associated Press Writer Michele Salcedo, Associated Press Writer – 2 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Kentucky's Republican Senate candidate Rand Paul criticized President Barack Obama's handling of the Gulf oil spill Friday as putting "his boot heel on the throat of BP" and "really un-American."

Paul's defense of the oil company came during an interview in which he tried to explain his controversial take on civil rights law, an issue that has overtaken his campaign since his victory in Tuesday's GOP primary.

"What I don't like from the president's administration is this sort of, 'I'll put my boot heel on the throat of BP,'" Rand said in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America." "I think that sounds really un-American in his criticism of business."

...

On the oil spill, Paul, a libertarian and tea party darling, said he had heard nothing from BP indicating it wouldn't pay for the spill that threatens devastating environmental damage along the coast of the Gulf of Mexico.

"And I think it's part of this sort of blame-game society in the sense that it's always got to be somebody's fault instead of the fact that maybe sometimes accidents happen," Paul said.

The senate candidate referred to a Kentucky coal mine accident that killed two men, saying he had met with the families and he admired the coal miners' courage.

"We had a mining accident that was very tragic. ... Then we come in and it's always someone's fault. Maybe sometimes accidents happen," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100521/ap_ ... _rand_paul

You have no idea how ENRAGED this makes me. No idea. I have forwarded this to the local talking heads. Normally of a right leaning sort, as most of talk radio is, there is a sea change taking place. They know DAMNED well they'd better not defend BP right now.
I said this the other day, and the growing anger has only been going up steadily. People here are getting PISSED OFF!

EDIT-adding a link to the VIDEO clip of this corporate stooge saying the outrageous-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/2 ... 84661.html

[NeonLX]

I'd like to think that Rand Paul's comments about "sh!t happens" would be enough to squash this whole stupid teabaggery sham...but my optimism gland shriveled up and quit working decades ago.

[Peregrine]

I've been thinking about how up here in my neck of the woods, the provincial government has been wanting to drill off the coast of BC...

Gulf spill burying B.C. offshore dreams

"But the government is still working away - and spending money - on clearing the path for development of what could be huge oil and gas resources...

"The potential reserves off B.C.'s coast are understandably attractive to government. There could be almost 10 billion barrels of oil and more than 40 trillion cubic feet of gas. That's about $170 billion worth of gas alone. The government could take in something like $35 billion, according to the Liberals."

link

Also:

Living Oceans hopes offshore drilling moratorium becomes permanent

"We would have up to 225 tankers a year going through important fishing areas, by the Great Bear Rainforest and through critical whale habitat," said Lash.

"No matter how strong the safety precautions are that are put into place a spill will eventually happen, whether it's in the form of an oil rig or an oil tanker. And if a company manages to clean up 15 per cent of the spill then it's considered a success, while leaving the other 85 per cent for the ocean to deal with."

link

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Here's a report from Grand Isle...

A Month In, Outrage Over Gulf Oil Spill Grows
BP, Agency Overseeing Offshore Drilling Among Those Being Faulted

POSTED: 1:44 am CDT May 21, 2010
UPDATED: 10:36 am CDT May 21, 2010

GRAND ISLE, La. -- Thick, sticky oil crept deeper into delicate marshes of the Mississippi Delta, an arrival dreaded for a month since the crude started spewing into the Gulf, as anger and frustration mounted over efforts to plug the gusher from a blown-out well and contain the spill.

Up to now, only tar balls and a sheen of oil had come ashore. But chocolate brown and vivid orange globs and sheets of foul-smelling oil the consistency of latex paint have begun coating the reeds and grasses of Louisiana's wetlands, home to rare birds, mammals and a rich variety of marine life.

A deep, stagnant ooze sat in the middle of a particularly devastated marsh off the Louisiana coast where Emily Guidry Schatzel of the National Wildlife Federation was examining stained reeds.

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http://www.wdsu.com/gulf-oil-spill/23629442/detail.html


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Its getting all over the root balls and coating every surface. This will kill everything in the food chain.

[DoYouEverWonder]

I'm watching the local news this morning and images/video from Grand Isle are coming in. The prime fishing and crabbing area is fucked.
The oil is thick, dark, and viscus. My favorite spot to fish from land/surf was an area known as 'the rocks', a man made barrier that extends out into the gulf from the shore. Looks like 'the rocks' are covered in oil.
I've caught speckled trout two to the line (using a shad rig) there on SEVERAL occasions.

Damn.

I went out off Cedar Key last weekend. Caught a lot of short specs and enough bigger ones for a couple of dinners. I figured it'll be a long time before we'll be able to eat anything out of the Gulf anymore. Last summer we limited on scallops in under two hours. Won't be able to do that anymore either.

Why are the criminals (BP) still in charge of the crime scene? These bastards can destroy the entire gulf, yet if I light up a fuckin' joint, I can still go to jail?

[Nordic]

Why are the criminals (BP) still in charge of the crime scene?

That's what occurred to me this morning when I made the mistake of flicking past what passes for "news" on cable TV. It's all about what BP is doing, what BP is saying, what they're gonna try next. It's like having the murderer clean up the crime scene.

Don't we have a government? Don't we have an Army? Don't we have a Corps of Engineers? Don't we have a National Guard?

No, we don't. Instead we have some Big Fucking Criminal Corporation in charge of their own fucking CRIME.

And we're all sitting back watching and wondering why nothing is happening.

It's time for some heads to roll. I have to say, on Facebook, where my postings about this sort of thing are usually met with stony silence, and nobody shares them, there were a TON of people I know who were posting about the Coast Guard threatening the journalists and saying they were going to do it on the authority of BP. There was universal outrage like I've actually never quite seen, from people of all political stripes.

[DoYouEverWonder]

Why are the criminals (BP) still in charge of the crime scene?

That's what occurred to me this morning when I made the mistake of flicking past what passes for "news" on cable TV. It's all about what BP is doing, what BP is saying, what they're gonna try next. It's like having the murderer clean up the crime scene.

Don't we have a government? Don't we have an Army? Don't we have a Corps of Engineers? Don't we have a National Guard?

No, we don't. Instead we have some Big Fucking Criminal Corporation in charge of their own fucking CRIME.

And we're all sitting back watching and wondering why nothing is happening.

It's time for some heads to roll. I have to say, on Facebook, where my postings about this sort of thing are usually met with stony silence, and nobody shares them, there were a TON of people I know who were posting about the Coast Guard threatening the journalists and saying they were going to do it on the authority of BP. There was universal outrage like I've actually never quite seen, from people of all political stripes.

There are plenty of other private companies that drill for oil. The US Gov and DOD claim they don't have the expertise or the equipment. Then put together a group of experts from some of the other companies and put them in charge. At least, they won't be as worried about limiting their liability, which is BP's main concern at this point.

[2012 Countdown]

Our masters say maybe August this will get fixed. Barring that, they are waiting till next week to do the hail Mary...
BP Says 'Top Kill' Unlikely Before Tuesday
Engineers To Shoot Heavy Mud Into Blown-Out Well

ROBERT, La. --

BP now says it will likely be at least Tuesday before engineers can shoot heavy mud into a blown-out well spewing oil into the Gulf of Mexico.
Three ultra-deepwater rigs and other equipment are at the site where the Deepwater Horizon oil platform exploded April 20. They're preparing for a delicate procedure called a "top kill" that BP hopes will stop the flow of oil from the well.
Crews will pump in heavy drilling mud, which is a thick, viscous fluid that's twice the density of water. That should stop the oil, and then they'll use cement to keep more from gushing out.
BP's Doug Suttles says this hasn't been tried at 5,000 feet underwater before, so engineers want to make sure everything is just right.


http://www.wdsu.com/news/23636514/detail.html

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I'm watching the local news this morning and images/video from Grand Isle are coming in. The prime fishing and crabbing area is fucked.
The oil is thick, dark, and viscus. My favorite spot to fish from land/surf was an area known as 'the rocks', a man made barrier that extends out into the gulf from the shore. Looks like 'the rocks' are covered in oil.
I've caught speckled trout two to the line (using a shad rig) there on SEVERAL occasions.

Damn.

I went out off Cedar Key last weekend. Caught a lot of short specs and enough bigger ones for a couple of dinners. I figured it'll be a long time before we'll be able to eat anything out of the Gulf anymore. Last summer we limited on scallops in under two hours. Won't be able to do that anymore either.

Why are the criminals (BP) still in charge of the crime scene? These bastards can destroy the entire gulf, yet if I light up a fuckin' joint, I can still go to jail?

This brings up another issue. When the SHTF (shit hit the fan moment) scenario comes, and starvation and societal breakdown occurs, I thought I had a reliable source for food supply. Here, we would crash and burn, but would never go hungary as there are lots of things to eat, and lots of delicious ways in which to prepare it. I could live on shrimp alone. I guess I need to start storing food now.

There is about to be a rebellion here though. The guy I mentioned several pages back (Nunguesser), and the plan we keep waiting approval on are about to happen even if the Corp of Engineers doesn't get back with us. Plaquemines Parish and Jefferson Parish are calling meetings next week and will float bonds and build the sand barriers ourselves.


Gov. Bobby Jindal talks oil in Grand Isle
GRAND ISLE – Surrounded by officials from several parishes and towns threatened by the impeding oil, Gov. Bobby Jindal did not mince words.
“Let’s be clear,” Jindal said. “The oil is here. Heavy oil is here.”
At a press conference held Thursday afternoon in Grand Isle, Jindal made his case for the Army Corps of Engineers to issue an emergency permit so that the state could begin a dredging plan to build sand booms along the alignment of the state’s barrier islands in Chandeleurs, Barataria Bay and Timbalier Bay.
Across the street from the press conference, clumps of brown oil had already begun washing up on shore.
“We must get the dredging plan approved,” Jindal said. “We’ve seen firsthand this works.”
Jindal said the $350 million dollar plan needs to be approved because it’s easier and cheaper to fight the oil on the coastline than it would be to clean it from the wetlands.
“If I was them (BP),” Jindal said, “I wouldn’t worry about the cost. It’s a fraction of what they’re going to pay if this gets in the wetlands.”

Mayor of Grand Isle David Camardelle, who flew with JIndal over the oil-threatened areas in the Gulf Thursday, said he believed the time for waiting for BP and the Army Corps of Engineers was over.
“It’s real scary out there,” Camardelle said. “I’m waiting for BP to step up to the plate. Oil is coming into Caminada Bay.”
Lafourche Parish President Charlotte Randolph spoke briefly, pleading for the seafood industry which has been hit hard by the oil spill. Many fishermen and lobster harvesters have lost their jobs because of closures issued by the Department of Wildlife and Fisheries.
“Louisiana seafood is better than ever,” Randolph said. “It is not tainted. It is not compromised.”

http://www.houmatoday.com/article/20100 ... /100529904

[2012 Countdown]

I'm watching the local news this morning and images/video from Grand Isle are coming in. The prime fishing and crabbing area is fucked.
The oil is thick, dark, and viscus. My favorite spot to fish from land/surf was an area known as 'the rocks', a man made barrier that extends out into the gulf from the shore. Looks like 'the rocks' are covered in oil.
I've caught speckled trout two to the line (using a shad rig) there on SEVERAL occasions.

Damn.

I went out off Cedar Key last weekend. Caught a lot of short specs and enough bigger ones for a couple of dinners. I figured it'll be a long time before we'll be able to eat anything out of the Gulf anymore. Last summer we limited on scallops in under two hours. Won't be able to do that anymore either.

Why are the criminals (BP) still in charge of the crime scene? These bastards can destroy the entire gulf, yet if I light up a fuckin' joint, I can still go to jail?

This brings up another issue. When the SHTF (shit hit the fan moment) scenario comes, and starvation and societal breakdown occurs, I thought I had a reliable source for food supply. Here, we would crash and burn, but would never go hungary as there are lots of things to eat, and lots of delicious ways in which to prepare it. I could live on shrimp alone. I guess I need to start storing food now.

There is about to be a rebellion here though. The guy I mentioned several pages back (Nunguesser), and the plan we keep waiting approval on are about to happen even if the Corp of Engineers doesn't get back with us. Plaquemines Parish and Jefferson Parish are calling meetings next week and will float bonds and build the sand barriers ourselves.


Gov. Bobby Jindal talks oil in Grand Isle
GRAND ISLE – Surrounded by officials from several parishes and towns threatened by the impeding oil, Gov. Bobby Jindal did not mince words.
“Let’s be clear,” Jindal said. “The oil is here. Heavy oil is here.”
At a press conference held Thursday afternoon in Grand Isle, Jindal made his case for the Army Corps of Engineers to issue an emergency permit so that the state could begin a dredging plan to build sand booms along the alignment of the state’s barrier islands in Chandeleurs, Barataria Bay and Timbalier Bay.
Across the street from the press conference, clumps of brown oil had already begun washing up on shore.
“We must get the dredging plan approved,” Jindal said. “We’ve seen firsthand this works.”
Jindal said the $350 million dollar plan needs to be approved because it’s easier and cheaper to fight the oil on the coastline than it would be to clean it from the wetlands.
“If I was them (BP),” Jindal said, “I wouldn’t worry about the cost. It’s a fraction of what they’re going to pay if this gets in the wetlands.”

Mayor of Grand Isle David Camardelle, who flew with JIndal over the oil-threatened areas in the Gulf Thursday, said he believed the time for waiting for BP and the Army Corps of Engineers was over.
“It’s real scary out there,” Camardelle said. “I’m waiting for BP to step up to the plate. Oil is coming into Caminada Bay.”
Lafourche Parish President Charlotte Randolph spoke briefly, pleading for the seafood industry which has been hit hard by the oil spill. Many fishermen and lobster harvesters have lost their jobs because of closures issued by the Department of Wildlife and Fisheries.
“Louisiana seafood is better than ever,” Randolph said. “It is not tainted. It is not compromised.”

http://www.houmatoday.com/article/20100 ... /100529904