Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

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Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Israel's Blockade of Gaza is More Justified than Unjustified.
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Israel's Blockade of Gaza is More Unjustified than Justified.
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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby norton ash » Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:36 pm

Norton, I don't care if it's a celt thing, a hun thing or a martian thing. It's got no place on the board. Would you guys like to ban all Jews or Israelis from the board, or just the ones you disagree with?


The Celt thing is about showing your arse and singing a screed to an enemy of righteousness. And I have no problem with any race, it's rude, tiresome, disruptive drum-beating fascists and defenders of ongoing crimes that piss me off.

I don't believe in 'banning' anyone unless they spread shit, and hate, and insult their opponents like some worse-than-useless one-note Beck, Limbaugh, Hamas hatemonger, or 17 Breezes. I don't care if you ban 17B, I only snapped at the thing this morning because it was fucking up the thread and I was sick of its shit. I'll start ignoring 17B again.

But I fucking love it when Mac goes after 17B. And I honestly don't think Mac has a real prob with Jews or Israelis as fellow humans either.
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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby barracuda » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:00 am

Well, I'll tell you what's fucked up, dude: being put in the position where I have to defend 17breezes.
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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby 17breezes » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:05 am

barracuda wrote:Well, I'll tell you what's fucked up, dude: being put in the position where I have to defend 17breezes.


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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby AlicetheKurious » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:24 am

"If you're not careful the newspapers will have you hating the oppressed and loving the people doing the oppressing." - Malcolm X
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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby smiths » Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:54 am

it is a triumph of propaganda that the Israelis and Palestinians are described as two sides of a conflict

if israel dropped a small nuke on gaza would that be justified in your opinion 17breezes, Percival, Chiggerbit and sepka?
the question is why, who, why, what, why, when, why and why again?
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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby Sweejak » Mon Jun 07, 2010 3:38 am

Hedges:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elU3etpW ... r_embedded

Israel Navy reserves officers: Allow external Gaza flotilla probe
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-d ... e-1.294536

Jewish flotilla to break Gaza siege
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 15,00.html

Shot Australian says Israelis left him to bleed
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010 ... 919698.htm

Israel Declares US Citizen on Aid Ship a ‘Terrorist’
http://news.antiwar.com/2010/06/06/isra ... terrorist/

Passengers grabbed Israeli weapons to stop the killing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeUhwELoKWo

Israel hasbara fails again: Photos show Mavi Marmara passengers protecting, aiding Israeli soldiers

The predictable response of the Israeli army, as quoted in Haaretz, was that the "published pictures serve as clear and unequivocal proof of Israel's repeated arguments that aboard [the Mavi Marmara] were mercenaries who intended to kill Israeli soldiers." Israeli spokespersons and media in recent days have also claimed the soldiers faced "lynching," a provocative term which originated to describe the deliberate mob murders of African Americans by white supremacists in the United States.
The photos indicate nothing of the sort; ...


http://aliabunimah.posterous.com/blog-p ... n-pics-sho
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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby Searcher08 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:57 am

17breezes wrote:Easy to decide when your own life isn't on the line isn't it? It won't be you killed by the new weapons Hamas will get.


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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby Searcher08 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:04 am

17breezes wrote:
Simulist wrote:Mac, every time 17breezes opens his virtual mouth, he seems to alienate people against the position he's advocating. Allowing him that kind of rope seems like a stroke of genius, to me.

All you have to do is to look at this poll to see how effective 17breezes is being.

That's why I don't think he works for the Mossad. (They have standards for these sorts of things, you know!)


The poll......did anyone expect it to turn out any different? Not me. I have not ever seen any concern over Israelis being killed in this forum (and G-d knows I would love someone to show me proof I'm wrong about that.) It's all a one-way street here. I don't expect to change anyone's opinions here, I don't have that kind of power anymore than you or anyone else. I'm just a guy who dislikes one-way streets.


That is the probably the most ingenuous response written in the history of R.I.
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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby Searcher08 » Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:11 am

Sepka wrote:Israel's blockade is praiseworthy.
Keeping extremely tight control over the Palestinians until they decide to live in peace is the solution most likely to prevent needless loss of life.
It's not a perfect solution, but it's better than any of the proposed alternatives that I've seen.
The Israelis are showing a great deal more restraint and humanity than the Palestinians have ever done.



I am not sure how micro-managing the diet of the Gazans prevents loss of life.
I am not sure how killing large numbers of children is showing humanity.
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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby DoYouEverWonder » Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:07 am

DoYouEverWonder wrote:

According to the people who made this video, no one is dying in Gaza.

This comes from a group called the Israeli Hasbara - so much for diplomacy.



Israel apologises for spoof video mocking Gaza flotilla

7 June 2010

The Israeli government has apologised after its press office emailed to journalists a spoof video about the flotilla which tried to dock in Gaza.

The video shows people dressed as peace activists singing "we con the world" to the tune of We Are the World.

A spokesman said the video did not represent the Israeli government's view.

The video contains real footage of the Israeli raid on the flotilla in which nine activists died
'Bluff'

In the clip, which parodies the video made for the 1985 charity song, the singers are dressed up in costumes representing the captain of the flotilla, western peace activists, and Arabs wearing keffiyeh scarves.

"There's no people dying, so the best that we can do, is create the greatest bluff of all", they sing.

"We are peaceful travellers, we're waving our own knives," the song goes.

The song builds to a chorus of "we con the world, we con the people. We'll make them all believe the IDF (Israel Defense Forces) is Jack the Ripper."

At one point the singer dressed as the flotilla captain sings "Ithbah al-Yahud" which means "slaughter the Jews" in Arabic.

The video is interspersed with footage from the Israeli commando raid on the Mavi Marmara, the Turkish lead vessel of the flotilla which tried to break an Israeli and Egyptian blockade on Gaza last week.
'Funny'

Nine passengers on board the ship were killed during the Israeli commando raid on the ship.

The ships were towed to the port of Ashdod and the activists deported.

Mark Regev, spokesman for the Israeli Prime Minister's office, told the UK's Guardian newspaper: "I called my kids in to watch it because I thought it was funny. It is what Israelis feel. But the government has nothing to do with it."

The video was made by the Hebrew satirical website Latma.co.il, run by Jerusalem Post deputy editor Caroline Glick.

On her website she said the clip featured "the Turkish-Hamas 'love boat' captain, crew and passengers in a musical explanation of how they con the world."

"We think this is an important Israeli contribution to the discussion of recent events," Ms Glick wrote.


But there has also been condemnation of the spoof.

"The video is a repulsive attempt to use satire to make Israel's case on Flotilla debacle," Didi Remez of the Coteret blog said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/middle_east/10253357.stm
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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby seemslikeadream » Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:33 pm

norton ash » Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:13 pm wrote:Cuda, it's a Celt thing. You wouldn't understand.



I understand completely ...does Jack have some celt in him? :)
Mazars and Deutsche Bank could have ended this nightmare before it started.
They could still get him out of office.
But instead, they want mass death.
Don’t forget that.
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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:23 pm

slad, One must wonder why you chose to dredge this up so unnecessarily?
Seriously, just to jab Jack?

Wrong. And bad for RI.
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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby Sounder » Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:38 pm

It's just Wrong. so says the master baiter. :coolshades
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:18 pm

And you trolling my ass is right?

How is your contribution helpful to RI?

Juvenile behavior helps in what way to broaden our understanding of our fellow humans?

How is it helpful to anyone, ever, even when it's offered by a juvenile?

To resurrect this of all threads and not to comment upon it's content, but instead use a comment from it to reply to in order to besmirch another ever so subtly is simply wrong.

As most should instantly see.

That any better, grudge gatherer?
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Re: Is the Blockade of Gaza Justified?

Postby Sounder » Sun Sep 28, 2014 5:35 pm

And you trolling my ass is right?


Right? wrong? Who are you? The morality police?

Fuck your right and wrong, like as if you have the magic formula. Piffle.



besmirch?

could it be that SLAD was making a joke on Celtic temper, and being that SLAD has Celtic lineage, that kind of thing is not really all that insulting?
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