'Not for public': the oil spill may be getting much worse

[undead]

But, he said, "things are going to return to normal."

Considering that Mr. Baraka Osama has done absolutely nothing but lie, lie, and continuously lie since he began to seek the office of the presidency, this tells me that things are absolutely never, ever going to return to normal.

"Normal?"

Any one want to take a guess at what normal looks like? Besides the drones on the border with Mexico. That seems pretty normal right now.

[Julia W]

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-oil-czar-201-06

Oh Boy: Obama's Solution Is To Name An "Oil Czar"

Kamelia Angelova and Gus Lubin | Jun. 15, 2010, 1:20 PM | 1,411 | 14
Obama will name an Oil Czar tonight in his live televized address (via Hot Air).

We have no idea who it will be, but Press Secretary Robert Gibbs assures us it will be "somebody that will be in charge of a recovery plan, putting a recovery plan together.... when we get past the cleanup and response phase of the disaster."

The Oil Czar will join the ranks of nearly 30 others czars in Obama's increasingly technocratic regime.

[Simulist]

When "Czar" is attached to any English word by your government, it should be translated, "We're fucking with you in the ass about _________, but we want you to think we're actually helping you — and in a big way!"

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When "Czar" is attached to an English word by your government, it should be translated, "We're fucking with you in the ass about _________, but we want you to think we're actually helping you."

It's the stupidest moniker an English speaking country's government can name a figurehead of some unpopular bureaucracy. It has the Z in there. It makes it sound more forceful, only something a ruff n tuff Russian would do. What the fuck ever bomster. Seize the the fucking company and all and mean ALL assets, put the Army Corps on it, nobody gets paid anything until this shit is stopped and never in a million years -- cleaned up. We don't need a fucking "czar". Why not trot out the "drug czar" to tell us they'll be administering benzos, alcohol and muscle relaxants to all Americans so we can drift off silently in the night as we dig up lithium and spill blood in Afghanistan? He is the drug czar. Give us the drugs. I really didn't think this place could get anymore dysfunctional.

President Dwayne Alesandro Mt. Dew Camacho coming up. Mike Judge had it right, as I all along suspected.

[Simulist]

I really didn't think this place could get any more dysfunctional.

There was a scene in Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End where Jack Sparrow's map reads "Up Is Down."

That was America.

[ninakat]

Cosner to the Rescue?



Kevin Costner's Machine Heads to BP's Oil Spill Clean Up
Costner has been funding a team of scientists for 15 years in hopes of developing a technology to clean up massive oil spills, and his research has created a powerful centrifuge that he claims can separate oil from water and dump the oil into a holding tank.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/kevin- ... d=10689928

I saw Costner being interviewed by Anderson Cooper last night. Actually, his gizmo seems very hopeful to me, assuming they can get enough of them into production fast enough to beat the hurricanes.

Here's the video and brief article:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/06/15/oil.di ... tml?hpt=T1

And in the interview, he said each machine can process 200 gallons per minute. That actually adds up to quite a bit with 32 machines going full blast. Here's the math:

200 gallons/minute = 12000 gallons/hour = 288,000 gallons/day * 32 machines = 9,216,000 gallons per day

Hope. Change. From a movie star.

[Simulist]

Wow. Thanks, Ninakat. I hope it works!

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No matter how much these machines are able to collect, isn't there the question as to how much oil can be contained, processed, stored and then sent to market? 'Cause otherwise, where do we put the oil? What will become of it? What will these companies do to remain profitable in the sense of their gross (as in disgusting) profits? Won't it put a glut on the market and drive their prices down? This is so complex, I can barely fathom it. However, when in Rome -- or RI I mean.



Is that not a field (of dreams) surrounded by ethanol, no? (Just sayin')

And one of the biggest flops in Hollywood history:

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Aaaaaannnnnd, not to make too much of it whatsoever. I went searching for any kind of skepticism on the part of the "conspiratorial web" out there on or about Kevin Costner and these machines, and the only thing one can find are references to Oliver Stone's film JFK. A search for Costner on Google only really yields "his machine" and "JFK". Curious. . .

Didn't just yesterday news break that Teddy Kennedy was perpetually in fear for his life? Ah yes. . .

F.B.I. Opens Kennedy File
By MICHAEL COOPER and JOHN M. BRODER
Published: June 14, 2010

Most of the death threats made against Senator Edward M. Kennedy warned of shootings, but one claimed that a crossbow would be used. For years after two of his brothers were slain by assassins, Mr. Kennedy received repeated warnings that he would meet the same fate, according to thousands of pages of documents about Mr. Kennedy that were released Monday by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

It was no wonder that some of Mr. Kennedy’s relatives feared that it would be risky for him to run for president, and that Mr. Kennedy would sometimes blanch when cars backfired. “Even now, I’m startled by sudden noises,” he wrote in his memoir, “True Compass,” published last year after his death at age 77. “I flinch at 21-gun salutes at Arlington to honor the fallen in Iraq. My reaction is subconscious — I know I’m not in danger — but it still cuts through me.”

The F.B.I. files on Mr. Kennedy — 2,352 pages covering 1961 to 1985 — are mostly devoted to the scores of threats against him, but they also pull back the curtain on other episodes before and after he became a senator.

They document the keen interest the bureau took when Mr. Kennedy met with “ ‘intellectuals’ of leftist tinge” on a visit to Mexico in 1961; the relationship the Kennedy family had with J. Edgar Hoover, the longtime director of the F.B.I.; and the efforts of the Nixon administration to find out more about the 1969 Chappaquiddick accident, in which a young woman drowned after a car being driven by Mr. Kennedy plummeted off a bridge near Martha’s Vineyard.

John W. Dean III, an assistant at the Justice Department who later became President Richard M. Nixon’s White House counsel, called on Oct. 17, 1969, to ask the F.B.I. to gather information about Mary Jo Kopechne, the woman who drowned at Chappaquiddick, according to the files.

“He stated that both the deputy attorney general and the attorney general are anxious to discretely find out if Mary Jo Kopechne (deceased) had visited Greece in August, 1968,” an F.B.I. memo states, noting that Mr. Dean had Ms. Kopechne’s passport number and that he had asked for any reports the F.B.I. had on her or her acquaintances. “Mr. Dean reiterated that he would appreciate this matter being handled in a discreet matter.”

In a telephone interview, Mr. Dean recalled testifying at the Watergate hearings about the request. “Politically, until Chappaquiddick, Nixon was convinced that he was going to be running against Teddy Kennedy,” Mr. Dean said in the interview. “After Chappaquiddick, he wasn’t sure, but I think he certainly wanted to make sure, if it did happen, that he could hang Chappaquiddick around Kennedy’s neck.”

There is little in the files about Chappaquiddick. “The F.B.I. had no investigative role in this case, since there were no violations of federal criminal law involved,” the bureau wrote in a summary of its files. The files do contain a teletype to the director of the F.B.I. on July 19, 1969 — the day after the accident — flashing the first news of the drowning, initially misidentifying Ms. Kopechne as “Mary Palporki” and noting that the “fact Senator Kennedy was driver is not being revealed to anyone.”

Mr. Kennedy’s fact-finding trip to Latin America in August 1961, before he became a senator but when his brother was president, aroused intense interest in the bureau, which reported his activities. At the end of the trip, the F.B.I. files state, Mr. Kennedy left a diary on a Pan American World Airways plane. Airline officials turned it over to F.B.I. agents. Nearly five years later, a bureau official referred to the notebook, writing, “a copy of the notebook and related material has been retained in this office since that time.”

In 1964, Senator Kennedy wrote to Hoover and asked him to write an essay for a book Mr. Kennedy was compiling about his father, Joseph P. Kennedy. Hoover agreed, but only after aides combed files for anything on the elder Kennedy. A memo on their search revealed that Joseph Kennedy had been a “special service contact” of the Boston office of the F.B.I. for 11 years and was on a first-name basis with Hoover.

A few weeks later, Hoover sent an essay, recalling the time in 1955 that Mr. Kennedy had written him saying that he understood that Hoover was interested in running for president. “He urged me to run for this position either on a Republican or Democratic ticket, guaranteeing me the largest campaign contribution I would ever get from anyone, and his personal services as the hardest campaign worker in history.”

Senator Kennedy once wrote to the Los Angeles district attorney, asking him not to seek the death penalty for Sirhan B. Sirhan, who assassinated his brother, Robert F. Kennedy. One F.B.I. file suggests that the feeling was not mutual. It recounts the unsubstantiated claims of an inmate who served prison time with Mr. Sirhan, and who said that Mr. Sirhan tried to hire him to kill Senator Kennedy. “He advised during this time subject offered him one million dollars and a car in exchange for killing Senator Kennedy,” according to the file.

Another file dealt with character assassination. A “nebulous and vague” report from an informant suggested that associates of Frank Sinatra wanted to attack “the character of Edward and Robert Kennedy and their brother-in-law Peter Lawford” by putting them in compromising positions with women. “The F.B.I. did not consider the rumor solid,” the bureau wrote in a summary of its files, “and no other mention of it appears in the file, suggesting that the informant did not supply any corroboration to the story.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/15/us/15kennedy.html

My God, I'm turning into a manatee!

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Other multicontextual caveats brought up by a friend of mine who I just sent links to and responded.

Dennis Hopper stars in Waterworld as well. Has only one eye. Hopper, as we know, just passed on.

Costner also stars in another flop called The Postman -- as in, as he puts it "POST-MAN".

QED

(Maybe another thread should be made about this -- will follow developments with the Costner machine story until that time, if it comes)

[DoYouEverWonder]

BP: Ship fire halts oil capture from well in Gulf

June 15, 2010

NEW ORLEANS—A bolt of lightning struck the ship capturing oil from a blown-out BP well in the Gulf of Mexico on Tuesday, igniting a fire that halted containment efforts in another setback for the embattled company in its nearly two-month struggle to stop the spill, the company said.

The fire was quickly extinguished and no one was injured. BP said it hopes to resume containing oil from the well sometime Tuesday afternoon.

The fire occurred on the Discoverer Enterprise, where engineers are siphoning about 630,000 gallons of oil a day through a cap on top of the well.

"At the moment, there's no capture, no containment going on, but we'll start up the Enterprise when it's safe to do so," BP spokesman Robert Wine said.

The fire happened as President Barack Obama was in Florida as part of a two-day visit to the stricken Gulf Coast. It also came a day after the British oil giant announced that it hoped to trap as much as roughly 2.2 million gallons of oil daily by the end of June as it deploys additional containment equipment.

http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2010/06/15/bp_ship_fire_halts_oil_capture_in_gulf/

They were lucky, this could have been a lot worse. Being out on the open water in a thunder storm is scary enough. Add tons of fuel to the mix and you've got an accident waiting to happen.

[justdrew]

I can't say I'd let the incompetent clowns in the Army Corps anywhere near this.

I mean they've already destroyed one city due to their general carelessness and utter dependence on unaccountable contractors who fuckup and scam with impunity.

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I can't say I'd let the incompetent clowns in the Army Corps anywhere near this.

Well they were slated to protect the Green River Valley (including all kinds of Boeing assets) all winter long should the Howard Hanson Dam had burst just south of Seattle. Luckily we had no winter to speak of up here this year.

[Julia W]

2 more stories from businessinsider....

http://www.businessinsider.com/matthew- ... ulf-2010-6

Matthew Simmons: The Relief Well Will Fail, And An Undersea Oil Lake May Be Covering 40% Of The Gulf
Joe Weisenthal | Jun. 15, 2010, 2:21 PM | 3,881 | 30

Image: AP
Matthew Simmons is on Bloomberg, living up to his moniker as the "Dr. Doom" of the oil spill.

He confidently predicts that the relief well will fail (due to structural problems with the pipe) and that unless we're content with having 100K+ barrels spill each day, then we have no choice to nuke the well.

Beyond that, he suspects that a giant undersea oil lake may already be covering 40% of the Gulf.

Update: And he just said he's embarrassed by his old firm, Simmons & Co, for upgrading shares of BP, which he think will go to 0.

http://www.businessinsider.com/governme ... day-2010-6

Government Doubles BP Leak Estimate To 60,000 Barrels Per Day

Gus Lubin | Jun. 15, 2010, 5:09 PM | 713 | 16
The government just upped the Deepwater Horizon leak estimate to 60,000 barrels per day:

Secretary Chu, Secretary Salazar, and Dr. McNutt convened a group of federal and independent scientists on Monday to discuss new analyses and data points obtained over the weekend to produce updated flow rate estimates. Working together, U.S. government and independent scientists estimate that the most likely flow rate of oil today is between 35,000 and 60,000 barrels per day. The improved estimate is based on more and better data that is now available and that helps increase the scientific confidence in the accuracy of the estimate.

Just last week the official estimate was 20,000 to 40,000 barrels per day; up from BP's long-standing estimate of 5,000 barrels per day; up from the original estimate of 1,000 barrels per day. At this point Cassandras like Matthew Simmons are starting to look a lot more credible.

[2012 Countdown]

BP: Ship fire halts oil capture from well in Gulf

June 15, 2010

NEW ORLEANS—A bolt of lightning struck the ship capturing oil from a blown-out BP well in the Gulf of Mexico on Tuesday, igniting a fire that halted containment efforts in another setback for the embattled company in its nearly two-month struggle to stop the spill, the company said.

When I first heard that on the radio today, I actually started laughing! I mean, come the fuck on.


Ninakat, saw the Costner on A Cooper as well. Lets hope... fyi, Anderson Cooper is going to have Garlan Robinette (local radio guy from WWL) on tonight.
Nunguesser I think will appear again as well.

Re: the oil in Barataria Bay, this is very important. THE OIL IS SINKING. That is- the oil has penetrated the bay, but you cannot see a lot of it. Reporters went there with locals and ran their hands along the bottom. Its all oiled up. Barataria Bay is a major inlet /nursery for shrimp, fish, etc.. It was pretty messed up, and the water on top was clear. This concoction is a subsurface fog of death. Its killing the marsh grass and will stick all over the bottom.

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Gov. Bobby Jindal on Gulf of Mexico oil spill: 'We are not winning this war'
After viewing the thick, black crude oil seeping into the state's precious marshes, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal on Tuesday said that the Gulf of Mexico oil spill is a war to save "our way of life."
And at this moment, he added, "We are not winning this war."
After viewing the thick, black crude oil seeping into the state's precious marshes, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal on Tuesday said that the Gulf of Mexico oil spill is a war to save "our way of life."
And at this moment, he added, "We are not winning this war."
Damage has already been done to the water system, said Jindal: "We saw dead crabs, dead fish."
A total of nine barges have been deployed, Jindal said, and another seven are due to join them over the next 24 hours. The vacuums atop the barges have to date picked up 10,350 gallons of oil, said Jindal.
"That should not be the first line of defense," he said. "It should be the fourth or fifth line of defense."
Camardelle pleaded with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to approve his permit requests to begin placing $8 million worth of rocks to begin filling in the five passes around Barataria Bay, including Pass Abel.
"I'm getting the rocks this Saturday," said Camardelle, showing reporters a map of the bay. To place rock in all five passes will cost $30 million, a bill that British Petroleum will pay, he said.
Camardelle said he was dismayed to hear permitting agencies question his plans during such an emergency.
"Leave the bull---- out and let's go to work and protect our people," Camardelle said, responding to fears that the rock will hurt wildlife or permanently block Pass Abel. "They ought to see the eyes of a pelican that is gasping for air and full of oil. This pass has been here before God. We swam across this in high school."

http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill ... _mars.html

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Did you guys see Joseph Cao tell the BP CEO to commit suicide?
How about the story about how US SENATOR David Vitter tried to go with a camera crew to document and they were DENIED entry?

Oh, but the story de jour ? It has to be this one...

Nungesser says BP workers broke eggs, crushed chicks in cleanup

by WWLTV.com
wwltv.com
Posted on June 15, 2010 at 3:29 PM
Updated today at 3:36 PM
PLAQUEMINES, La. -- A Plaquemines Parish cleanup crew discovered broken eggs and crushed chicks on Queen Bess Island on Tuesday, and parish leaders are blaming BP workers cleaning up the oil spill for the damage.
“The people BP sent out to clean up oil trampled the nesting grounds of Brown Pelicans and other birds," said Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser.
A parish spokesman said plastic bags containing snare boom found by the Plaquemines Parish Inland Waterways Strike Force were "recklessly placed without consideration for the natural wildlife on the island."
"Pelicans just came off the endangered species list in November of last year. They already have the oil affecting their population during their reproduction time, now we have the so called clean up crews stomping eggs," Nungesser said.
Nungesser called for a more pro-active approach for rescuing wildlife affected by the oil. He wants the Humane Society to come up with a better way to enlist the help of volunteers, saying dozens should be brought in from across the country to help save the wildlife.
"The lack of urgency and general disregard for Louisiana’s wetlands and wildlife is enough to make you sick," Nungesser said.
Sen. David Vitter, R-La., and Wayne Pacelle of the U.S. Humane Society joined Nungesser on the trip.




http://www.wwltv.com/news/gulf-oil-spil ... 12644.html