Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

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Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby Jeff » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:15 am

By ASHLEE VANCE
Published: June 11, 2010

ON a Tuesday evening this spring, Sergey Brin, the co-founder of Google, became part man and part machine. About 40 people, all gathered here at a NASA campus for a nine-day, $15,000 course at Singularity University, saw it happen.

While the flesh-and-blood version of Mr. Brin sat miles away at a computer capable of remotely steering a robot, the gizmo rolling around here consisted of a printer-size base with wheels attached to a boxy, head-height screen glowing with an image of Mr. Brin’s face. The BrinBot obeyed its human commander and sputtered around from group to group, talking to attendees about Google and other topics via a videoconferencing system.

The BrinBot was hardly something out of “Star Trek.” It had a rudimentary, no-frills design and was a hodgepodge of loosely integrated technologies. Yet it also smacked of a future that the Singularity University founders hold dear and often discuss with a techno-utopian bravado: the arrival of the Singularity — a time, possibly just a couple decades from now, when a superior intelligence will dominate and life will take on an altered form that we can’t predict or comprehend in our current, limited state.

At that point, the Singularity holds, human beings and machines will so effortlessly and elegantly merge that poor health, the ravages of old age and even death itself will all be things of the past.

Some of Silicon Valley’s smartest and wealthiest people have embraced the Singularity. They believe that technology may be the only way to solve the world’s ills, while also allowing people to seize control of the evolutionary process. For those who haven’t noticed, the Valley’s most-celebrated company — Google — works daily on building a giant brain that harnesses the thinking power of humans in order to surpass the thinking power of humans.

Larry Page, Google’s other co-founder, helped set up Singularity University in 2008, and the company has supported it with more than $250,000 in donations. Some of Google’s earliest employees are, thanks to personal donations of $100,000 each, among the university’s “founding circle.” (Mr. Page did not respond to interview requests.)

The university represents the more concrete side of the Singularity, and focuses on introducing entrepreneurs to promising technologies. Hundreds of students worldwide apply to snare one of 80 available spots in a separate 10-week “graduate” course that costs $25,000. Chief executives, inventors, doctors and investors jockey for admission to the more intimate, nine-day courses called executive programs.

Both courses include face time with leading thinkers in the areas of nanotechnology, artificial intelligence, energy, biotech, robotics and computing.

On a more millennialist and provocative note, the Singularity also offers a modern-day, quasi-religious answer to the Fountain of Youth by affirming the notion that, yes indeed, humans — or at least something derived from them — can have it all.

“We will transcend all of the limitations of our biology,” says Raymond Kurzweil, the inventor and businessman who is the Singularity’s most ubiquitous spokesman and boasts that he intends to live for hundreds of years and resurrect the dead, including his own father. “That is what it means to be human — to extend who we are.”

But, of course, one person’s utopia is another person’s dystopia.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/13/busin ... ?src=busln
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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby slomo » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:26 am

Interesting. This makes me pause.

Not because of Google's involvement in promoting the Singularity. One could hardly expect something different.

But I had a moment of self-revelation. Specifically, how much over the last 5 years I have become dependent on Google. As much as I eschew the fundamental assumptions of Transhumanism, I have acceded autonomy, bit by bit, to the Enemy.

How can I come to terms with the fact that, though I extoll the virtues of the purely Organic, I myself have become part Machine?
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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby slomo » Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:46 am

Actually, regarding my last post, I came upon this last night:

Guarding the Eye in the Age of Show (Ivan Illich):

I acknowledge that most people take the advent of such a world [inter-face between two systems, one of which is an artifact and the other a person] for granted. Further, they take the image as a natural given. They do not distinguish the interocular product of digital programs from the image formation solicited by a painter of old. Informaticians share this naïveté with semioticists, cognitive scientists and a considerable number of philosophers. It is the main obstacle preventing one from following the route on which the image mutated to the point of becoming a trap for the gaze. I argue that this entrapment has a history, beginning in a complex adventure and now reaching the stage of a ménage à trois: At times our gaze is still solicited by images, but at other times it is mesmerized by show. An ethics of vision would suggest that the user of TV, VCR, McIntosh and graphs protect his imagination from overwhelming distraction, possibly leading to addiction. There can be rules for exposure to visually appropriating pictures; exposure to show may demand a reasoned stance of resistance.

...

In textbooks, as well as in news magazines, the graphic show first encroaches upon and then overwhelms the text. The text is frequently reduced to a legend for the graph. Further, the eye is trained to take in objects that in nature are invisible; molecules smaller than the shortest visible frequency are made to appear. But, even more importantly, abstract notions are given "shapes" in tables and charts that seduce the eye toward misplaced concreteness. We are trained to be horrified, anguished, or encouraged by the graphic representation of quantitative data to which nothing corresponds that the gaze could grasp: Gross National Product, population growth, the incidence of AIDS. The show weans the gaze from the image.

It is sobering to reflect that our very consciousness is shaped by the technologies we use. This should not really be a new revelation (cue Marshall McLuhan's famous quote), but it is a reminder that comes at just the right time.

The very conversations we are having on this board would be impossible in a purely organic state of consciousness!
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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby Simulist » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:34 am

On a more millennialist and provocative note, the Singularity also offers a modern-day, quasi-religious answer to the Fountain of Youth by affirming the notion that, yes indeed, humans — or at least something derived from them — can have it all.

A strange drive in a culture with a profound lack of curiosity (or too much of any idea) concerning what "it" really might be.

(Nevertheless, despite that curious little "detail," humans don't just want "it" — they want "all" of "it.")
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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby slomo » Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:59 am

Simulist wrote:
On a more millennialist and provocative note, the Singularity also offers a modern-day, quasi-religious answer to the Fountain of Youth by affirming the notion that, yes indeed, humans — or at least something derived from them — can have it all.

A strange drive in a culture with a profound lack of curiosity (or too much of any idea) concerning what "it" really might be.

(Nevertheless, despite that curious little "detail," humans don't just want "it" — they want "all" of "it.")


I Want It All (Annie Lennox, Dave Stewart, Peace)

I want it all
I want it all
I don’t know what it is
But I want it all

I want it all
I want it all
I don’t know what it is
But I want it all

And I want it now
I want it now
I don’t know what it is
But I want it now

Yea yea yea
Yea yea yea

Gimme gimme some more
Of the same old stuff
It don’t make me happy
And it’s never enough

Gimme gimme some more
Of the same old stuff
It don’t make me happy
And it’s never enough

Peel back my skin
So that you can see
What I really am
The true colour of me

Peel back my skin
So that you can see
What I really am
The true colour of me

Yea yea yea
Yea yea yea

Yea yea yea
Yea yea yea
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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby operator kos » Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:27 pm



Wikipedia wrote:Human Revolution deals with the ethics of transhumanism, and carries an overarching message of humanity's reach extending its grasp. "Mankind is using mechanical augmentations," director Jean-Francois Dugas said before the game's release, "but there is still much to be determined in terms of their effect on society and the ultimate direction it will lead us in."[3] The Greek myth of Daedalus and Icarus appears in Adam Jensen's dreams as an allegory to this thought, and also - given that both Daedalus and Icarus were the names of artificial intelligences in Deus Ex - an intellectual bridge to the original game.

The pace of technological development is reflected visually by a Renaissance theme.[4] Characters who support the advances of human augmentation dress themselves and decorate their homes in reinterpreted late-medieval Italian style, and the game as a whole has a sepia-tinted colour palette reminiscent of historic manuscripts. In contrast, characters who oppose augmentation wear clothing that is more or less current-day.

As was the case in Deus Ex conspiracy theories and immensely powerful corporations feature strongly,[3] but nothing is currently known about them.
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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby IanEye » Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:22 pm

That's odd, I clicked on this thread thinking it was going to be about Barbara Boxer's hair.

iCarly, beyond human.
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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby compared2what? » Mon Jun 14, 2010 1:37 pm

I don't know, you guys. Most of you are probably too young to remember cigarette commercials on TV, but the whole topic of transhumanism always makes me think of this one:



Because you can take Sergey Brin out of a naturally human material state, but...

...you can't take the materially human nature out of Sergey Brin!

Or something like that.

But I'm naturally a Luddite, practically, I should probably fully disclose. So I sometimes got a bias on these subjects that I'm not always aware of.
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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby sfnate » Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:29 pm

...the Singularity also offers a modern-day, quasi-religious answer

"Quasi" religious? How about full-on, bullgoose mechno-mysticism, coupled with a technocratic creed that demands complete obeisance from those consumers who are too sophisticated and hip for the caveman paleo-religions but total suckers for the Big Tent Snakes & Tongues Revival called Google-palooza?

The Singularity with a capital "S" is the computing man's Rapture. A real evangelical fire burns in these missonaries' breasts. Burning Men, I guess you might say, burning with all the zeal and conviction of a modern day Tourquemada.

Not ready for the Singularity, then TOO BAD! The Singularity WANTS YOU!

Slough off that frail flesh and slip into something more mechanical, soft human weakness sacrificed to the super-conducting zero degree infinite cold of silicon and metal, hardened mechanical bodies searching in vain to experience through virtuality all the sensuous pleasures available to the flesh...

But that circle will never be completed, because once you've murdered the body, it's gone forever.

So watch out for the missionaries knocking on your door with this new gospel. Their's is a false religion, same as all the others that promise you resurrection in return for your obedience and generous tithes to the Church.
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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby 82_28 » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:04 pm

operator kos wrote:

Wikipedia wrote:Human Revolution deals with the ethics of transhumanism, and carries an overarching message of humanity's reach extending its grasp. "Mankind is using mechanical augmentations," director Jean-Francois Dugas said before the game's release, "but there is still much to be determined in terms of their effect on society and the ultimate direction it will lead us in."[3] The Greek myth of Daedalus and Icarus appears in Adam Jensen's dreams as an allegory to this thought, and also - given that both Daedalus and Icarus were the names of artificial intelligences in Deus Ex - an intellectual bridge to the original game.

The pace of technological development is reflected visually by a Renaissance theme.[4] Characters who support the advances of human augmentation dress themselves and decorate their homes in reinterpreted late-medieval Italian style, and the game as a whole has a sepia-tinted colour palette reminiscent of historic manuscripts. In contrast, characters who oppose augmentation wear clothing that is more or less current-day.

As was the case in Deus Ex conspiracy theories and immensely powerful corporations feature strongly,[3] but nothing is currently known about them.


Wow. That is insane! The original Deus Ex is probably one of my top five favorite games of all time. Unlike the original, this one doesn't look like you can get through the game without killing. In the original, it is possible to only tranquilize enemies and or cause them to become unconscious by other means. You can even still even beat the game that way too. I was never able to do that myself. I found you had to kill a little bit in the very least. Great game. Graphics fully dated by now I am sure -- It was awesome 10 years ago though. Pick it up if you can!
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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby smoking since 1879 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:13 pm

At that point, the Singularity holds, human beings and machines will so effortlessly and elegantly merge that poor health, the ravages of old age and even death itself will all be things of the past.


For those lucky/ruthless few that can afford it, right. I mean, this isn't really going to be an option for the vast majority of humanity is it?
So, while we're pissing away the last of our resources, the gilded few can still dream of prolonging their tiny, destructive lives.

I wonder if the author of the OP will be getting her name down for this "treatment"?
Maybe in 10 years they can upload her brain to the Googel Sphere and she can continue to write this vacuous drivel.

Keep drinking the cool-aid kiddo. :jumping:
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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby 82_28 » Tue Jun 15, 2010 1:39 pm

‘Bring Me Back To Life’- Britney Spears To Be Frozen After Death

Blooming singer, Britney Spears, has announced that she would want her body to be frozen after she dies. The lady is reported to be working out a deal to get herself frozen after her death. The move is being made to bring her back to life, sources revealed her view. The singer who is famous of rocking the stage while performing wants her body to be preserved in liquid nitrogen, a process more known as ‘cryogenic’ freezing.

Spears interest grew after she heard of rumors that Walt Disney was preserved in the same way. She is expecting that the process keeps the body preserved and can be brought back to life when someone wishes. A close source further revealed that the lady was only waiting for an approval from her father, after which she would sign the draft.

The ‘Alcor Life Extension Foundation’, a company based in Arizona specializes in Cryogenics, which is being tagged as the company responsible for preserving her body. Spears even wishes to invest in the company and promote this new fashion.


http://beforeitsnews.com/news/78/457/Br ... Death.html

Check out Christina Aguilera's latest album cover. (Female-Christ-Eagle-Bionic cyborg)

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Compare to older CA album cover I just happened upon:

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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby tazmic » Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:39 pm

"For those lucky/ruthless few that can afford it, right."

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"I mean, this isn't really going to be an option for the vast majority of humanity is it?"

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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby 82_28 » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:44 pm

Wow. That is insane! The original Deus Ex is probably one of my top five favorite games of all time. Unlike the original, this one doesn't look like you can get through the game without killing. In the original, it is possible to only tranquilize enemies and or cause them to become unconscious by other means. You can even still even beat the game that way too. I was never able to do that myself. I found you had to kill a little bit in the very least. Great game. Graphics fully dated by now I am sure -- It was awesome 10 years ago though. Pick it up if you can!


Well, well, well. Whatdya know? It's Deus Ex's 10th birthday and it is being offered for $2.49 as of now! I recommended it earlier and I recommend it now. Great game, lots of RI themes. Download from here! Would love to hear what people think.

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/296?resub
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Re: Merely Human? That’s So Yesterday

Postby Blue » Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:46 pm

sfnate wrote:...the Singularity also offers a modern-day, quasi-religious answer

"Quasi" religious? How about full-on, bullgoose mechno-mysticism, coupled with a technocratic creed that demands complete obeisance from those consumers who are too sophisticated and hip for the caveman paleo-religions but total suckers for the Big Tent Snakes & Tongues Revival called Google-palooza?

So watch out for the missionaries knocking on your door with this new gospel. Their's is a false religion, same as all the others that promise you resurrection in return for your obedience and generous tithes to the Church.

I so agree, sfnate. The Singularity Wishers are no different than the Rapture Wishers.

Recently found an interesting book at the library you might enjoy. "You Are Not A Gadget: A Manifesto" by Jaron Lanier. Very interesting insight about the internet and humans.
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