4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

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Re: 4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

Postby Nordic » Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:15 am

Evidence points to Bob Marley's particular Cancer vector being copper wire inserted within a pair of brand new boots, delivered personally by Carl Colby, son of the infamous CIA Director William Colby. Marley then unaware, ended up in the hands of Dr. Josef Issels, a Nazi former doctor at Auschwitz and contemporary of Dr. Josef Mengele, where he was carefully managed to ensure his "natural" death.


I'd be very interested in hearing about Carl Colby in this regard. I met him years ago, worked for him for a few days, in fact, and he was possibly the CREEPIEST man I've ever met in my life.

It's kind of awful to think he's probably still out there doing .... whatever.

As it was, he was actually directing a corporate film for Martin Marietta outside of Denver. Which was something of a military base when you'd approach and enter it. I mean, I grew up on military bases, and this was quite similar to a military base including big banners reading "Peace Through Strength" hung across the way. We were doing some sort of what we call "industrial films" which are corporate films that nobody ever sees except people within the corporation, or other businesses and if I remember correctly it had something to do with "Star Wars". This was probably in 1987 or 88 or so.

Man that guy was creepy.

on edit: Man, I just did a google search on the bastard. Check this out:

Nicole Simpson lived next door to Carl Colby (former CIA director Bill Colbys son). Colby's wife and kids have been subjected to mind-control. Colby's wife testified in O.J. Simpson's trial, but was addressed as "Miss Boe" rather than by her name.


Is this true? Hell if I know. The source seems dubious: http://www.whale.to/b/simpson.html

Then there's this:

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/project ... colby.html

Where a Carl Colby testified in the Simpson trial, and is obviously a neighbor. The same one? I dunno.

Ugh, the guy is still making films:

http://www.carlcolbyfilms.com/current.html

But check out what he's trying to get made now: a film about his Dad and the CIA.

William E. Colby was a career CIA Officer and was Director of the CIA from 1973 to 1976. His career was legendary: beginning as an OSS Jedburgh officer parachuting behind enemy lines into Nazi occupied Europe in WWII; “quietly” influencing elections in ‘50’s Communist leaning Italy during the height of the Cold War; serving as the CIA Station Chief in Saigon in the 60’s; then as the architect of the controversial Phoenix Program at the height of the Vietnam War.

Amid the scandalous revelations of the CIA’s “Family Jewels” to televised House and Senate Hearings in the early 1970’s, Colby preached “reform” as CIA Director in order to “save the agency”; yet by opening up to Congressional oversight, these Hearings effectively ruined Bill Colby in the eyes of the intelligence community. He drowned in an apparent boating accident in ‘96. His front-page New York Times obituary labeled him “the Professional’s Professional”.

This is the story of the CIA – intelligence gathering and covert action – with Bill Colby as our starting point. His son, Emmy award-winning documentary filmmaker Carl Colby, will explore who his father was, interviewing people inexorably connected to his life: high ranking political, military and intelligence officials, active and retired; historians, journalists, and policy experts; his family and friends; who are all participating because they knew Carl’s father personally or professionally and because his legacy impacted their lives – and US policies - then and now.

They will talk about Colby’s life, what they knew of him and the ways they possibly did not - or could not - know him. They will tell us about his legacy as a pioneer in counterinsurgency and paramilitary operations – whether they feel these actions were successful - from a tactical and a “values” perspective - and what consequences these actions have upon a “civilized” society.

As the different aspects of Colby’s life are uncovered, we will also become witness to Carl’s personal journey - what does it mean to have a father who was a master of covert activities, who lived in the murky gray zone between truth and lies, and who became one of the most powerful and controversial figures of the post-WWII era?

Beyond this personal story, the film will ask the question of what the CIA’s role in this country is and should be and where we as a society draw the line on what we are willing to ask, and order, our current intelligence officers and covert operatives to do in the name of our national security in an increasingly dangerous world – and who is responsible for the consequences.

The film will examine whether the CIA’s effectiveness has been compromised by focusing on secret paramilitary actions - with much less emphasis on intelligence gathering - or if this has caused US intelligence to continue to make the same old mistakes. If this is true, do these proactive covert programs and practices of the CIA still remain in our best national interest?

And do they remain true to our values as Americans who desire to abide by the Constitution? And is there a workable balance? This film will ask these tough questions - and ask them of those who are in a position to best understand and answer them.


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Re: DCI William Colby spills the 'family jewels'

Postby Hugh Manatee Wins » Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:54 am

CIA runs mainstream media since WWII:
news rooms, movies/TV, publishing
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Disney is CIA for kidz!
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Re: 4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

Postby nashvillebrook » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:11 am

these are interesting...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_brain_tumor_patients

William Casey - Director of CIA
Lee Atwater -- RNC
Clair Engle -- senator famous for breaking filibuster on civil rights act of 1964
Ted Kennedy
Gladys Marin -- Chile communist party leader
Robert Novak -- cancer seemed to come on quickly after the Plame fiasco

William S. Donaldson -- United States Naval Aviator; a critic of the U.S. government's TWA flight 800 investigation

Rene Rivkin -- Stockbroker convicted for insider trading

J. Allen Hynek
Paul Feyerabend

George Harrison -- guitarist

Johnnie Cochran

James Weinstein -- socialist, founder/publisher of In These Times

Steven Knight -- Author who was known for his books criticising the Freemasons.
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Re: 4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

Postby Nordic » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:16 am

nashvillebrook wrote:these are interesting...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_brain_tumor_patients

William Casey - Director of CIA
Lee Atwater -- RNC
Clair Engle -- senator famous for breaking filibuster on civil rights act of 1964
Ted Kennedy
Gladys Marin -- Chile communist party leader
Robert Novak -- cancer seemed to come on quickly after the Plame fiasco

William S. Donaldson -- United States Naval Aviator; a critic of the U.S. government's TWA flight 800 investigation

Rene Rivkin -- Stockbroker convicted for insider trading

J. Allen Hynek
Paul Feyerabend

George Harrison -- guitarist

Johnnie Cochran

James Weinstein -- socialist, founder/publisher of In These Times

Steven Knight -- Author who was known for his books criticising the Freemasons.


Didn't Michael Milkin have a brain tumor? OR was that leukemia?

Oh, never mind. Turns out it was merely prostrate cancer.

In January 1993, Milken received the results of a PSA test from a routine medical exam. Because prostate cancer is relatively rare for men in their 40s Milken's doctor didn't recommend the PSA test, he asked for it. The results came back with a level of 24 which is extremely high. Milken repeated the PSA test twice and a subsequent biopsy revealed advanced prostate cancer which had spread to his lymph nodes. At that time, doctors considered prostate cancer that advanced to indicate that a man had less than 2 years to live.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Milken
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Re: 4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

Postby LilyPatToo » Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:13 pm

An "alien abduction" researcher, Karla Turner, had begun to investigate the human military and/or intelligence involvement in abductions when she contracted an extremely fast-spreading breast cancer that silenced her very quickly. Many of her readers, myself included, have wondered ever since whether there was a connection between her cancer and her awakening to a carefully cloaked human agenda. At around the same time (IIRC), another abduction researcher who was also writing about humans being involved in alien incidents also died--I think it was a motorcycle accident, but my wonky memory isn't coughing up either her name or the exact timing of that sudden death in relation to Turner's.

Wonder how many other genuine (as in non-spook-connected) researchers noted these 2 women's fates and decided that it's just not healthy to screw with a long-running psy-op? I know of at least one other very well known woman writer in that field who confided in me (in person, in a whisper, while looking nervously over her shoulder) that she too has gotten beneath some screen memories to find a bunch of human sociopaths interacting with her. But she has a family and wants to live to see her grandkids, so you probably won't see those experiences in print anytime soon.

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Re: 4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:38 am

double post, sorry.
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Re: 4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:39 am

I don't have access to the internet on weekends lately, so I have to make do with books <snark>.

Last weekend's light summer silliness was The Coming Plague: Newly Emerging Diseases In a World Out Of Balance by Laurie Garrett, which I found riveting and managed to pretty much devour in two days. It was published in '94, but still reads well...if anything, is very prescient of it's assessment of the results of the last thirty years of neglected civilzational infrastructure.

This Passage caught my eye and made me think of this thread:


Pg 572-573

…At Harvard, Max Essex was similarly impressed with the ferocity of new cross-species viral infections. A case he found chilling was the Herpesvirus saimiri, which was carried without apparent harm by Saimiri sciureus squirrel monkeys living in Amazonia. When the virus was first discovered in captive Saimiri monkeys it was thought to be a harmless microbe. But within months after it’s discovery in 1968 by scientists at the New England Primate Reasearch Center, located outside Boston, other monkey species at the center took ill. The strange herpes virus turned out to be an extrordinary cancer-causing agent: less than two months after infection Old World monkeys would develop extensive, lethal cancers of their lymphatic system.

In the early 1970’s the same researchers discovered a similar herpes virus, H. ateles, in spider monkeys. Like H. saimiri, it was harmless in it’s normal host and infected virtually 100% of the host species in the wild. And it was also a potent cancer-causing virus in other monkey species. Both viruses specifically infected cells of primate immune systems, causing lymphoma and leukemias. And both approached the 100% mortality rate when they infected primates other than their host species. Experimental infections of rabbits also proved extraordinarily lethal.

What chilled Essex wasn’t the viruses’ ability to cause cancer, though the appalling certainity and speed of their carcinogenic action were certainly unprecedented and frightening. Essex’s concern was the mode of transmission: both herpes viruses were airborne…

…Lab analyses of H .saimiri strains grown on monkey cells revealed an astonishing rate of mutation and gene-swapping. The viruses DNA in the absence of the rest of the microbe was capable of infecting and destroying a cell. Once whole viruses were inside cells, they immediately began a mutation process so pronounced that it was impossible to recover the original strain. So, though no human being was known to have been infected with either H. saimiri or H. ateles, the viruses’ ability to transform themselves at such staggering speed left open the disturbing possibility that- given ample opportunity-such as exposure to an immunodeficient person or implantation into a Homo sapiens in the form of a monkey-to-human tissue transplant-the organisms might quickly adapt to human cells, becoming a lethal airborne cancer-causing virus….


So by the 70's, there certainly was knowledge of some pretty nasty cancer virii, Ones that might not have needed much tweaking at all to cause damage to human cells and perhaps not even needing what we could consider 'standard' methods of delivery (like the wire in Marley's shoe). It would probably be naive to think that these organisms haven't at least been 'looked over' by researchers with an eye toward possible weaponization of some kind in the last thirty years.
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Re: 4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

Postby The Hundredth Idiot » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:34 am

Wow, if that's what was going on in the seventies imagine what now.

"DARPA wants to create almanacs of every possible virus mutation."-

http://www.cryptogon.com/?p=15764

And if that's not bad enough, "Oxytocin-Sensitive Spray".
From 'Nicko's News- Live to Ride magazine'-

Quote: "The blokes in lab coats have been at it again. This time around they've come up with a spray that turns blokes into sensitive new-age soft cocks. Guaranteed to make a big boofy bloke turn into a snivelling SNAG who holds his woman's hand and cries during chick flicks-not through boredom but because he's so freakin' sensitive. No doubt the shit was developed by a secret government lab to turn terrorists into florists but the insidious spray is about to be unleashed onto the public. Stuff's called Oxytocin and is a hormone that will turn even the hairiest beer guzzling bad arse into a soft cock who prances around in ballet gear and cries with happiness during the ad breaks." :shock:

http://www.verolabs.com Bizzaro...
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Re: 4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

Postby ronin » Tue Jul 06, 2010 1:51 pm

I know people die eventually and maybe I'm just being paranoid but something doesn't settle right about the deaths of the following three people:

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Carl Sagan
Jim Henson
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Re: 4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

Postby MinM » Tue Jul 06, 2010 2:15 pm

ronin wrote:I know people die eventually and maybe I'm just being paranoid but something doesn't settle right about the deaths of the following three people:

Mac Tonnies
Carl Sagan
Jim Henson

Another one, but more along the lines of Bill Hicks...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Prinze
About four months prior to his death, Prinze had signed a multi-year deal with NBC worth US $6 million over five years. In the months before he died, he had a strong fixation on how John F. Kennedy was assassinated. He also developed an obsession with the film Taxi Driver, viewing it repeatedly.

Upon becoming wealthy, Prinze took martial arts lessons from Robert Wall, a student of Bruce Lee who appeared in Enter the Dragon and Return of the Dragon. Soon after, Wall became godfather to Prinze's newborn son Freddie Prinze, Jr...

But the modus operandi is problematic. At least for the purposes of this thread.
Prinze suffered from depression, and on January 28, 1977, shot himself with a small semi-automatic pistol after talking on the telephone with his estranged wife. His business manager, Marvin "Dusty" Snyder, tried to intervene, but Prinze shot himself in the head, and was rushed to the UCLA Medical Center to be placed on life support following emergency surgery. Prinze's family removed him from life support, and he died at 1:00 pm on January 29. He was 22.

In 1977, the death was ruled a suicide. In a civil case brought years later, a jury found that his death was accidental. Prinze had a history of playing with guns, faking suicide attempts to frighten his friends for his amusement. He had left a note stating that the decision to take his life was his alone, but because he pulled the trigger in the presence of a witness —it gave enough weight to the argument that he really was not planning to take his own life that night...
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Re: 4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:39 pm

Jim Henson is mentioned in "Coming Plague":

pg 414-415

Jim Henson-famed puppeteer-inventor of the muppets-died in the spring of 1990 of another common, allegedly curable, bacterial infection. An apparently new mutant strain of streptococcus struck that was resistant to penicillins and posessed genes for a killer toxin similar to that which Patrick Schlievert has discovered in the toxic Shock Syndrome strain of S. aureus.

Indeed, it was Schlievert who first spotted the new organism in 1989, and dubbed the disease strep A produced TSLS (Toxic Shock-Like Syndromes). By the time Henson succumbed-just a year after it's discovery-lethal cases of TSLS had been reported from Canada, England, Scandinavia,Germany, several places in the United States, and New Zealand. In addition, streptococcal strains of all types were showing increasing levels of antibiotic resistance. In the early 1970's these anti-biotics particularly, erthromycin and pennicillin, were almost unververally effective against streptococcus, and the appearence of strep-related complications such as rheumatic fever and imeptigo, were marks of inadequate medical care, not anti-biotic failure.


Henson could possibly and very tragically just be an outlier of the Mutltiply Resistant Staph phenomenon, which among other emerging diseases has as much to do with the lack of funding to public health since the Reagan/Thatcher era as it does tricky bugs that we are just encountering in our global world.

But his death sticks in my craw, too. Perhaps he had Jim Keith's doctor?
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Re: 4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

Postby Project Willow » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:23 pm

I always had the induced cancer hypothesis in the back of my mind concerning:

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Wolf developed cancer and died February 6, 2002 at the age of 54.


1995 ACHRE hearings:

I am going to start. My name is Valerie Wolf. In listening to the testimony today, it all sounds really familiar. I am here to talk about a possible link between radiation and mind control experimentation that began in the late 1940's. The main reason that mind control research is being mentioned is because people are alleging that they were exposed as children to mind control, radiation, and chemical experimentation which were administered by the same doctors who were known to be involved in conducting both radiation and mind control research. Written documentation has been provided revealing the names of people, and the names of research projects in statements from people across the country. It is also important to understand mind control techniques and follow-ups into adulthood may have been used to intimidate particular research subjects into not talking about their victimization in government research. As a therapist for the past twenty-two years, I have specialized in treating victims and perpetrators of trauma, and their families. When word got out that I was appearing at this hearing, nearly forty therapists across the country (and I had about a week and a half to prepare) contacted me to talk about clients who had reported being subjected to radiation and mind control experiments. The consistency of people's stories about the purpose of the mind control and pain induction techniques, such as electric shock, use of hallucinogens, sensory deprivation, hypnosis, dislocation of limbs, and sexual abuse is remarkable.
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Re: 4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

Postby LilyPatToo » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:57 am

Me, too, PW. What a message to send to other therapists brave enough and open-minded enough to actually listen to their patients in the first place and then support them all the way to a hearing about non-consensual human experimentation. I'm glad the videos are up online. If I ever get the courage together to be completely honest with a therapist and they don't believe me, I fully intend to send them to YouTube to watch them :? Here's the first one where she introduces herself. Brave lady.

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CIA Director's Death Raises Questions, Divides Family

Postby MinM » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:04 pm

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You know this Penn State thing must be making some people nervous for them to bring deepstate fixer/cleaner Louis Freeh in. :offair:
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/ ... 32#p436032

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Former CIA Director's Death Raises Questions, Divides Family
WASHINGTON -- A new film on the life and death of master spy and former CIA director William E. Colby, created by his son, raises the question of whether the man who pioneered U.S. counterinsurgency warfare may have ended his own life -- a question that has divided the intelligence community and Colby's family.

Colby developed the strategy of training and arming local troops to assist with counterinsurgency during the Vietnam War -- the same tactic in use today by U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan. But as former National Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft speculates in the film, "The Man Nobody Knew," Colby's role in the creation of U.S. counterintelligence programs in the Vietnam War may have contributed to his suffering "a tortured soul."

If this alleged remorse were real, and had any connection to Colby's death, it could cast a shadow over the early history of U.S. counterinsurgency.

When Colby vanished in rough waters on a late-night, solo canoe trip in 1996, local sheriffs ruled out suicide before they even found his body. A lifetime of espionage meant Colby had enemies from Baltimore to Bali, and conspiracy theories about his death still circulate between Georgetown mansions and CIA headquarters in Langley, Va., today, despite an official ruling of accidental death.

Up to this point, conspiracy theories have focused mainly on the possibility of foul play -- not on suicide. But this may be changing.

Fifteen years after Colby drowned in Maryland's Wimlico River, his son, filmmaker Carl Colby, has produced a documentary about him, "The Man Nobody Knew." The film portrays his father as a man who was wracked with guilt over his actions in the Vietnam War, and whose life fell apart after he left the CIA in 1975. By the time William Colby took his canoe out for one last trip, Carl says "he had had enough of this life."

A narrative that suggests the possibility of suicide is convenient for the film, but for the rest of the Washington-based Colby clan, Carl's public revision of their father's death is painful, and they strongly believe, inaccurate.

Carl Colby's film presents an alternative to the medical examiner's report. "[My father's] death was ruled an accident -- a stroke or a heart attack -- but I think he was done. He didn't have a lot left to live for. And he never wanted to grow old," Carl told Vanity Fair.

But interviews with family members and with Colby's biographer, Randall Woods, paint a very different picture of William Colby's emotional life than Carl's movie does. They portray him as a straightforward, unrepentant soldier who did what he felt was necessary without agonizing too much over the costs. Colby's family also provided The Huffington Post with the coroner's report, which has never been released before, available here.

The Coroner's Report

"I respect my brother's movie, but the implication that my father took his life is not correct, and we felt it was important for people to see the final report of how he died in writing," Jonathan Colby, William Colby's eldest son, said in an interview at his downtown D.C. office Thursday.

The official cause of death is listed as "drowning and hypothermia associated with arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease," meaning that either a stroke or a heart attack debilitated Colby, who was 76 years old, and caused him to fall out of the canoe into the freezing water, where he drowned.

Carl Colby, meanwhile, told The Washington Post that his father "had had enough long before [he drowned]." Asked whether he believes his father committed suicide, Carl was cryptic, though his movie carries strong implications. "I think he just got tired," he said.

But Colby had severe plaque buildup in his arteries, and not just any arteries: specifically the left, anterior descending artery -- known for producing heart attacks so massive that it's nicknamed the widow-maker.

Another clue Jonathan pointed out was the fact that Colby's body was found without his shoes, likely the result of his kicking the water, and largely inconsistent with suicide, he said.

Colby's Private Life

Carl Colby and his siblings also hold deeply divergent opinions about what kind of person their father was.

Throughout the film, Carl focuses on the impenetrable and complicated "Rubik's cube" that he believed his father to be. Carl did not include any of his siblings in the film, telling HuffPost, "everyone has their own story to tell; this is simply mine."

Yet the film only presents Carl's version of his father's life and death. Furthermore, William Colby was a public figure who had an impact on American history, so the story that Carl calls "simply mine" is in fact much bigger.

One sister, the late Catherine Colby, figures prominently into a narrative suggesting that remorse may have been a motive in Colby's death. Catherine suffered from epilepsy and died in 1973, at age 24. Carl says that "while she was alive, [her father] was never there for her." But 23 years after her death and two weeks before their father's final canoe trip, Carl Colby says his father called him "seeking absolution for his not doing enough when Catherine was so ill."

The film is dedicated to Catherine's memory, and the implication is that William Colby was wracked by guilt over her death. But it's difficult to reconcile this narrative with another line in the movie, where Carl, the narrator, says of his father, "I'm not sure he ever loved anyone; I never heard him say anything heartfelt."

Colby's Public Life

Among historians, William Colby is best-remembered as the man who gave away the CIA's "family jewels," details about covert actions the agency carried out between 1950 and the end of the Vietnam War. Colby was ordered to release them to Congress as part of the Church Committee hearings of 1975, but many of his colleagues at the time considered it a major betrayal. In "The Man Nobody Knew," Scowcroft, then the National Security Advisor, speculates that giving up the information was a form of penance Colby performed to absolve his "tortured soul" of sins he believed were committed during the war. But Colby's family disagrees.

"My father saw how the country was changing after Watergate, with a weak White House and a powerful Congress, and he believed that a covert intelligence agency could exist with congressional oversight," Jonathan said.

Bridge Colby, Jonathan's son, added that "the release of the family jewels was the only way he knew to save the agency, in effect showing Congress, 'Look, this is all we did, nothing more!'"

"For him, the world was very black and white. He fought the Nazis in Europe and then fought the Communists in Vietnam, and as far as he was concerned, these were not good people, full stop," Jonathan said. "Was he introspective? In a word, no."

The program Colby pioneered in Vietnam was known as the Phoenix program, and it armed Vietnamese soldiers and helped them root out suspected Communist insurgents -- much like American intelligence agents do today by training Afghan soldiers to find and fight al Qaeda militants. But the plan resulted in the deaths of more than 20,000 Vietnamese villagers at the hands of their countrymen, leading human rights activists to liken it to a U.S.-backed assassination program.

But Jonathan Colby compared civilian deaths in the Phoenix program to President Obama's use of CIA drones in the tribal regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan, which have unintentionally killed civilians, alongside their intended targets: members of al Qaeda's leadership. "Do people think Obama and Gen. [David] Petraeus are 'tortured souls' over this?" he asked rhetorically. "Of course not."

Randall Woods spent the past seven years studying Colby's life for his upcoming biography, "America's Jesuit: William Egan Colby and the CIA," which contains interviews with hundreds of Colby's friends and colleagues. Woods also dismisses the idea that the career spy had deeply-buried guilt over his family or his decisions in Vietnam.

"In terms of his emotional and psychological life, there's nothing else here than what you see," Woods told HuffPost. "This was a well-intentioned, decent guy who loved adventure, and whose greatest fault was his naivete."

After The CIA

Woods also disputes another claim Carl Colby makes in "The Man Nobody Knew": that William Colby was "very bitter and angry" when then-President Gerald Ford fired him in 1975.

Jonathan Colby agrees with Woods, and he recalls his father neither bitter nor broken-up when Ford replaced him with future president George H.W. Bush. "He actually stayed on for three months after Ford canned him, unlike [then-Defense Secretary James] Schlesinger, who was fired the same day as my father was, and who walked out right away."

Schlesinger was replaced by a young Donald Rumsfeld, who would face the same challenge in Afghanistan post-9/11 as Colby and Schlesinger had in Vietnam: How to wage a guerilla war for the hearts and minds of rural villagers with an army designed for massive, scorched-earth combat ops.

For his part, however, William Colby did not seem to suffer from the kind of mental anguish that would drive a man to suicide, his son Jonathan said.

"With all that happened in the Vietnam years," he said, "what's really striking to me is why he wasn't tortured by it more."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/0 ... 30176.html


Nordic wrote:
Evidence points to Bob Marley's particular Cancer vector being copper wire inserted within a pair of brand new boots, delivered personally by Carl Colby, son of the infamous CIA Director William Colby. Marley then unaware, ended up in the hands of Dr. Josef Issels, a Nazi former doctor at Auschwitz and contemporary of Dr. Josef Mengele, where he was carefully managed to ensure his "natural" death.


I'd be very interested in hearing about Carl Colby in this regard. I met him years ago, worked for him for a few days, in fact, and he was possibly the CREEPIEST man I've ever met in my life.

It's kind of awful to think he's probably still out there doing .... whatever.

As it was, he was actually directing a corporate film for Martin Marietta outside of Denver. Which was something of a military base when you'd approach and enter it. I mean, I grew up on military bases, and this was quite similar to a military base including big banners reading "Peace Through Strength" hung across the way. We were doing some sort of what we call "industrial films" which are corporate films that nobody ever sees except people within the corporation, or other businesses and if I remember correctly it had something to do with "Star Wars". This was probably in 1987 or 88 or so.

Man that guy was creepy.

on edit: Man, I just did a google search on the bastard. Check this out:

Nicole Simpson lived next door to Carl Colby (former CIA director Bill Colbys son). Colby's wife and kids have been subjected to mind-control. Colby's wife testified in O.J. Simpson's trial, but was addressed as "Miss Boe" rather than by her name.


Is this true? Hell if I know. The source seems dubious: http://www.whale.to/b/simpson.html

Then there's this:

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/project ... colby.html

Where a Carl Colby testified in the Simpson trial, and is obviously a neighbor. The same one? I dunno.

Ugh, the guy is still making films:

http://www.carlcolbyfilms.com/current.html

But check out what he's trying to get made now: a film about his Dad and the CIA.

William E. Colby was a career CIA Officer and was Director of the CIA from 1973 to 1976. His career was legendary: beginning as an OSS Jedburgh officer parachuting behind enemy lines into Nazi occupied Europe in WWII; “quietly” influencing elections in ‘50’s Communist leaning Italy during the height of the Cold War; serving as the CIA Station Chief in Saigon in the 60’s; then as the architect of the controversial Phoenix Program at the height of the Vietnam War.

Amid the scandalous revelations of the CIA’s “Family Jewels” to televised House and Senate Hearings in the early 1970’s, Colby preached “reform” as CIA Director in order to “save the agency”; yet by opening up to Congressional oversight, these Hearings effectively ruined Bill Colby in the eyes of the intelligence community. He drowned in an apparent boating accident in ‘96. His front-page New York Times obituary labeled him “the Professional’s Professional”.

This is the story of the CIA – intelligence gathering and covert action – with Bill Colby as our starting point. His son, Emmy award-winning documentary filmmaker Carl Colby, will explore who his father was, interviewing people inexorably connected to his life: high ranking political, military and intelligence officials, active and retired; historians, journalists, and policy experts; his family and friends; who are all participating because they knew Carl’s father personally or professionally and because his legacy impacted their lives – and US policies - then and now.

They will talk about Colby’s life, what they knew of him and the ways they possibly did not - or could not - know him. They will tell us about his legacy as a pioneer in counterinsurgency and paramilitary operations – whether they feel these actions were successful - from a tactical and a “values” perspective - and what consequences these actions have upon a “civilized” society.

As the different aspects of Colby’s life are uncovered, we will also become witness to Carl’s personal journey - what does it mean to have a father who was a master of covert activities, who lived in the murky gray zone between truth and lies, and who became one of the most powerful and controversial figures of the post-WWII era?

Beyond this personal story, the film will ask the question of what the CIA’s role in this country is and should be and where we as a society draw the line on what we are willing to ask, and order, our current intelligence officers and covert operatives to do in the name of our national security in an increasingly dangerous world – and who is responsible for the consequences.

The film will examine whether the CIA’s effectiveness has been compromised by focusing on secret paramilitary actions - with much less emphasis on intelligence gathering - or if this has caused US intelligence to continue to make the same old mistakes. If this is true, do these proactive covert programs and practices of the CIA still remain in our best national interest?

And do they remain true to our values as Americans who desire to abide by the Constitution? And is there a workable balance? This film will ask these tough questions - and ask them of those who are in a position to best understand and answer them.


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Re: 4 Chemical compounds used by the CIA as Cancer Agents

Postby Pele'sDaughter » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:26 pm

I was wondering the other day about Ted Kennedy's brain cancer....
Don't believe anything they say.
And at the same time,
Don't believe that they say anything without a reason.
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