Monarch or Not Children Were Abused in MKULTRA / MKArtichoke

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Monarch or Not Children Were Abused in MKULTRA / MKArtichoke

Postby elfismiles » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:12 pm

WARNING: MAY BE TRIGGERING.

I have no idea really if it could be but ... for the sake of those who worry about such things, please be warned.


http://www.truth-out.org/the-hidden-tra ... ldren62208


The Hidden Tragedy of the CIA's Experiments on Children
Wednesday 11 August 2010
by: H.P. Albarelli Jr. and Dr. Jeffrey S. Kaye, t r u t h o u t | News Analysis


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(Image: Lance Page / t r u t h o u t; Adapted: L'Ubuesque Boîte à Savon, Humayunn N A Peerzaada)

Bobby is seven years old, but this is not the first time he has been subjected to electroshock. It's his third time. In all, over the next year, Bobby will experience eight electroshock sessions. Placed on the examining table, he is held down by two male attendants while the physician places a solution on his temples. Bobby struggles with the two men holding him down, but his efforts are useless. He cries out and tries to pull away. One of the attendants tries to force a thick wedge of rubber into his mouth. He turns his head sharply away and cries out, "Let me go, please. I don't want to be here. Please, let me go." Bobby's physician looks irritated and she tells him, "Come on now, Bobby, try to act like a big boy and be still and relax." Bobby turns his head away from the woman and opens his mouth for the wedge that will prevent him from biting through his tongue. He begins to cry silently, his small shoulders shaking and he stiffens his body against what he knows is coming.

Mary is only five years old. She sits on a small, straight-backed chair, moving her legs back and forth, humming the same four notes over and over and over. Her head, framed in a tangled mass of golden curls, moves up and down with each note. For the first three years of her life, Mary was thought to be a mostly normal child. Then, after she began behaving oddly, she had been handed off to a foster family. Her father and mother didn't want her any longer. She had become too strange for her father, whose alcoholism clouded any awareness of his young daughter. Mary's mother had never wanted her anyway and was happy to have her placed in another home. When the LSD Mary has been given begins to have its effects, she stops moving her head and legs and sits staring at the wall. She doesn't move at all. After about ten minutes, she looks at the nearby physician observing her, and says, "God isn't coming back today. He's too busy. He won't be back here for weeks."


From early 1940 to 1953, Dr. Lauretta Bender, a highly respected child neuropsychiatrist practicing at Bellevue Hospital in New York City, experimented extensively with electroshock therapy on children who had been diagnosed with "autistic schizophrenia." In all, it has been reported that Bender administered electroconvulsive therapy to at least 100 children ranging in age from three years old to 12 years, with some reports indicating the total may be twice that number. One source reports that, inclusive of Bender's work, electroconvulsive treatment was used on more than 500 children at Bellevue Hospital from 1942 to 1956, and then at Creedmoor State Hospital Children's Service from 1956 to 1969. Bender was a confident and dogmatic woman, who bristled at criticism, oftentimes refused to acknowledge reality even when it stood starkly before her.

Despite publicly claiming good results with electroshock treatment, privately Bender said she was seriously disappointed in the aftereffects and results shown by the subject children. Indeed, the condition of some of the children appeared to have only worsened. One six-year-old boy, after being shocked several times, went from being a shy, withdrawn child to acting increasingly aggressive and violent. Another child, a seven-year-old girl, following five electroshock sessions had become nearly catatonic.

Years later, another of Bender's young patients who became overly aggressive after about 20 treatments, now grown, was convicted in court as a "multiple murderer." Others, in adulthood, reportedly were in and of trouble and prison for a battery of petty and violent crimes. A 1954 scientific study of about 50 of Bender's young electroshock patients, conducted by two psychologists, found that nearly all were worse off after the "therapy" and that some had become suicidal after treatment. One of the children studied in 1954 was the son of well-known writer Jacqueline Susann, author of the bestselling novel "Valley of the Dolls." Susann's son, Guy, was diagnosed with autism shortly after birth and, when he was three years old, Dr. Bender convinced Susann and her husband that Guy could be successfully treated with electroshock therapy. Guy returned home from Bender's care a nearly lifeless child. Susann later told people that Bender had "destroyed" her son. Guy has been confined to institutions since his treatment.

To their credit, some of Dr. Bender's colleagues considered her use of electroshock on children "scandalous," but few colleagues spoke out against her, a situation still today common among those in the medical profession. Said Dr. Leon Eisenberg, a widely respected physician and true pioneer in the study of autistic children, "[Lauretta Bender] claimed that some of these children recovered [because of her use of shock treatment]. I once wrote a paper in which I referred to several studies by [Dr. E. R.] Clardy. He was at Rockwin State Hospital - the back up to Bellevue - and he described the arrival of these children. He considered them psychotic and perhaps worse off then before the treatment." (This writer could find no case where any of Bender's colleagues spoke out against her decidedly racist viewpoints. Bender made it quite clear that she felt that African-Americans were best characterized by their "capacity for laziness" and "ability to dance," both features, Bender claimed, of the "specific brain impulses" of African-Americans.)

About the same time Dr. Bender was conducting her electroshock experiments, she was also widely experimenting on autistic and schizophrenic children with what she termed other "treatment endeavors." These included use of a wide array of psycho-pharmaceutical agents, several provided to her by the Sandoz Chemical Co. in Basel, Switzerland, as well as Metrazol, sub-shock insulin therapy, amphetamines and anticonvulsants. Metrazol was a trade name for pentylenetetrazol, a drug used as a circulatory and respiratory stimulant. High doses cause convulsions, as discovered in 1934 by the Hungarian-American neurologist and psychiatrist Ladislas J. Meduna.

Metrazol had been used in convulsive therapy, but was never considered to be effective, and side effects such as seizures were difficult to avoid. The medical records of several patients who were confined at Vermont State Hospital, a public mental facility, reveal that Metrazol was administered to them by CIA contractor Dr. Robert Hyde on numerous occasions in order "to address overly aggressive behavior." One of these patients, Karen Wetmore, received the drug on a number of occasions for no discernible medical reason. During the same ten-year period in which Metrazol was used by the Vermont State Hospital, patient deaths skyrocketed. In 1982, the FDA revoked its approval of Metrazol.

Here it should be noted that, during the cold war years, CIA and Army Counter-Intelligence Corps (CIC) interrogators, working as part of projects Bluebird and Artichoke, sometimes injected large amounts of Metrazol into selected enemy or Communist agents for the purposes of severely frightening other suspected agents, by forcing them to observe the procedure. The almost immediate effects of Metrazol are shocking for many to witness: subjects will shake violently, twisting and turning. They typically arch, jerk and contort their bodies and grimace in pain. With Metrazol, as with electroshock, bone fractures - including broken necks and backs - and joint dislocations are not uncommon, unless strong sedatives are administered beforehand.

A November 1936 Time magazine article seriously questioned the benefits of Metrazol, citing "irreversible shock" as a "great danger." The article described a typical Metrazol injection as such: "A patient receives no food for four or five hours. Then about five cubic centimeters of the drug [Metrazol] are injected into his veins. In about half-a-minute he coughs, casts terrified glances around the room, twitches violently, utters a horse wail, freezes into rigidity with his mouth wide open, arms and legs stiff as boards. Then he goes into convulsions. In one or two minutes the convulsions are over and he gradually passes into a coma, which lasts about an hour. After a series of shocks, his mind may be swept clean of delusions.... A patient is seldom given more than 20 injections and if no improvement is noted after ten treatments, he is usually given up as hopeless."

The Army, the CIA and Metrazol

Army CIC interrogators working with the CIA at prisoner of war camps and safe house locations in post-war Germany on occasion used Metrazol, morphine, heroin and LSD on incarcerated subjects. According to former CIC officer Miles Hunt, several "safe houses and holding areas outside of Frankfurt near Oberursel" - a former Nazi interrogation center taken over by the US - were operated by a "special unit run by Capt. Malcolm S. Hilty, Maj. Mose Hart and Capt. Herbert Sensenig. The unit was especially notorious in its applications of interrogation methods [including the use of electroshock and Metrazol, mescaline, amphetamines and other drugs]." Said Hunt: "The unit took great pride in their nicknames, the 'Rough Boys' and the 'Kraut Gauntlet,' and didn't hold back with any drug or technique ... you name it, they used it." Added Hunt, "Sensenig was really disappointed when it was found that nothing had to be used on [former Reichsmarschall] Herman Goering, who was processed through the camp. Goering needed no inducement to talk."

Eventually, CIC interrogators working in Germany would be assisted in their use of interrogation drugs by several "former" Nazi scientists recruited by the CIA and US State Department as part of Project Paperclip. By early 1952, the CIC's Rough Boys would routinely use Metrazol during interrogations, as well as LSD, mescaline and conventional electroshock units.

Metrazol-like drugs are still used in interrogations today. According to reports from several former noncommissioned Army officers, who served on rendition-related security details in Turkey, Pakistan and Romania, drugs that produce effects quite similar to Metrazol are still used in 2010 by the Pentagon and CIA on enemy combatants and rendered subjects held at the many "black sites" maintained across the globe. Observed one former officer recently, "They would twist up like a pretzel, in unbelievable shapes and jerk and shake like crazy, their eyes nearly popping out of their heads."
In 2008, at the behest of US Sens. Carl Levin, Joe Biden and Chuck Hagel and in reaction to a March 2008 article in The Washington Post, the Pentagon initiated an Inspector General Report on the use of "mind-altering substances by DoD [Department of Defense] Personnel during Interrogations of Detainees and/or Prisoners Captured during the War on Terror." It is not known if the investigation has been completed. Among the more famous recent cases of the use of drugs upon prisoners concerns one-time alleged "enemy combatant" Jose Padilla, who had originally been accused of wanting to set off a "dirty bomb." The charge was later forced, but Padilla was held in solitary confinement for many months and forced to take LSD or other powerful drugs while held in the Navy brig in Charleston, South Carolina.

The government has gone to great efforts to keep the public uninformed as regards use of drugs on prisoners. In an article by Carol Rosenberg for McClatchy News in July 2010, Rosenberg reported that, when covering the Guantanamo military commissions trials, when the question of "what psychotropic drugs were given another accused 9/11 conspirator, Ramzi bin al Shibh, the courtroom censor hits a white noise button so reporters viewing from a glass booth can't hear the names of the drugs. Under current Navy instructions for the use of human subjects in research, the undersecretary of the Navy is described as the authority in charge of research concerning "consciousness-altering drugs or mind-control techniques, while at the same time is also responsible for 'inherently controversial topics' that might attract media interest or 'challenge by interest groups.'"

Dr. Bender Discovers LSD

In 1955 and1956, Dr. Bender began hearing glowing accounts about the potential of LSD for producing remarkable results in children suffering mental disorders, including autism and schizophrenia. Bender's earlier work with electroshock therapy had brought her into contact with several other prominent physicians who, at the time, were covert contractors with the CIA's MK/ULTRA and Artichoke projects. Primary among these physicians were Drs. Harold A. Abramson, Paul Hoch, James B. Cattell, Joel Elkes, Max Fink, Harris Isbell and Alfred Hubbard. Some of these names may be familiar to readers. Dr. Abramson, a noted allergist who surreptitiously worked for both the US Army and CIA since the late 1940s, was the physician Frank Olson was taken to see, shortly before his murder in New York City in November 1953. About a year earlier, Drs. Hoch and Cattell were responsible for injecting unwitting New York State Psychiatric Institute patient Harold Blauer with a massive dose of mescaline that killed him. Dr. Elkes was one of the earliest physicians in Europe to experiment with LSD, having requested samples of the drug from Sandoz Chemical Co. in 1949. Elkes was a close associate of Dr. Abraham Wikler, who worked closely with Dr. Harris Isbell at the now-closed Lexington, Kentucky, prison farm, where hundreds of already drug-addicted inmates were given heroin in exchange for their participation in LSD and mescaline experiments underwritten by the CIA and Pentagon. Elkes worked closely with the CIA, Pentagon and Britain's MI6 on drug experiments in England and the United States.

Dr. Fink, who was greatly admired by Bender, is considered the godfather of electroshock therapy in the United States. In the early 1950s and beyond, Fink was a fully cleared CIA Project Artichoke consultant. In 1951, CIA officials under the direction of Paul Gaynor and Morse Allen of the agency's Security Research Service (SRS) that oversaw Artichoke, worked closely with Fink in New York City in efforts to thoroughly explore the merits of electroshock techniques for interrogations. The CIA was especially interested in the use of standard electroshock machines in producing amnesia, inducing subjects to talk and making subjects more prone to hypnotic control. According to one CIA document, Fink told officials "an individual could gradually be reduced through the use to electroshock treatment to the vegetable level."

In addition to Fink, Bender also greatly admired the work of Dr. Lothar B. Kalinowsky, a psychiatrist who also consulted closely with the CIA on electroshock matters. Kalinowsky, who was part Jewish and had fled Germany in 1933, was Fink's close friend and, like Fink, was widely recognized as an expert on electroconvulsive therapy. Kalinowsky met with the CIA's Allen and Gaynor frequently and sometimes was accompanied by Dr. Fink at the New York State Psychiatric Institute, where he worked closely with Dr. Hoch.

While it is clear from Dr. Bender's papers that she also considered the early LSD work of "Dr." Alfred M. Hubbard in Vancouver, Canada, to be "very substantial and beneficial," it is important to state here that Hubbard was not a physician nor did he have any formal medical training. Hubbard, a jovial character who sometimes worked with the FBI and CIA, was a strong proponent of the use of LSD. Despite the fact that he had no medical credentials and once served time in prison for smuggling, he hoodwinked the Sandoz Chemical Co. into supplying him such ample amounts of LSD that he dispersed so widely and abundantly that he earned the title "The Johnny Appleseed of LSD." Hubbard's use of LSD in allegedly curing alcoholism is still cited today. How Hubbard so easily passed as a physician is unknown. Even a 1961 paper published by New York Medical College, Department of Psychiatry, and authored by Dr. A.M. Freedman, cited Hubbard's LSD work with "children, primarily delinquents" to have been 85% successful."

Other physicians whom Dr. Bender consulted about the effects of LSD on children were Drs. Ronald A. Sandison, Thomas M. Ling and John Buckman. These three worked in England at both the Chelsea Clinic in London and Potwick Hospital in Worcestershire, outside of London. Sandison is credited with having been the first person to bring LSD into England, this in 1952 after he met Albert Hofmann in Basle, Switzerland, at the Sandoz Chemical laboratories. Hofmann handed Sandison a box of around 600 ampules, each containing 100 micrograms of LSD. Back in England, Sandison shared his psychedelic bounty with associates Drs. Ling and Buckman. Before the year was out, Sandison also turned Hubbard on to LSD, guiding Hubbard through his first trip. Sandison also began a new treatment program at the Gothic-looking Potwick facility that he dubbed Psycholytic Therapy. His program's patients were mostly schizophrenics. In 1958, an LSD treatment unit was established at Potwick. Over the years, it has been reported that the CIA, MI6 and the Macy Foundation secretly helped finance the unit. Dr. Elkes helped by raising about $75,000 for the unit's operation. For the next ten years the unit administered over 15,000 doses of LSD to about 900 patients.

Drs. Buckman and Ling worked closely with Sandison in the Potwick unit. In 1963, Buckman and Ling wrote in a publication, describing "good examples" of the use of LSD in psycholytic psychotherapy: "The patients' experiences under LSD have not supported Marx's dictum that Religion is the opium of the people but rather that there is a deep basic belief in a Supreme Being, whether the religion background be Christian, Jewish or Hindu."
Dr. Buckman also worked at London's Chelsea Clinic, often times treating adults and sometimes children. Buckman believed strongly that "frigidity" in women could be treated successfully with LSD. In 1967, he said of LSD: "Many therapists believe that a transcendental experience - a feeling that it is a good world and one is a part of it - is a curative experience in itself." According to several informed sources in the London, for years MI6, the British intelligence service and the CIA closely monitored the LSD work conducted by Sandison, Ling and Buckman.

Two Sisters, LSD and Dr. Buckman

Marion McGill, today an attorney and college professor in the western United States and her sister, Trudy, were sent in 1960 by their parents to be interviewed by Drs. Ling and Buckman at the Chelsea Clinic in London. At the time, Marion was 13 years old and her sister was 15. Marion says that both her mother and father were "quite taken with the benefits of LSD and thought that we would also benefit from the drug." Both parents had undergone a series of ten LSD "treatments" at the Chelsea clinic. Marion goes on:

"As a 13-year old at the time, my decision-making capacity was very limited. I was, by nature, fairly compliant and docile, rather eager to please my parents. I understood nothing of what was being suggested for me and my 15 year-old sister - namely that we participate in some sort of 'research' that both our parents had also participated in. Whether the word 'experiment' was used, I don't recall. The term 'LSD' was vaguely familiar, however, because my parents were 'taking' this drug as a form of 'quick therapy' - their term for it - that had been recommended by my uncle, a psychiatrist at a well known east coast medical school. Both parents needed therapy, in my view. While highly successful professionally, my father was a tightly wound, rather angry and insecure man, an accomplished academic, but an 'industrial strength narcissist,' as I later called him. My mother was a submissive, obedient, Catholic woman without much identity of her own, other than being a doctor's wife.

"My sister and I, however, were about as 'normal' as any two teenagers could be. We were at the top of our classes in school; both of us had lots of friends, participated in extra curricular activities. We didn't need 'therapy.' We were told we would get a day off from school after each overnight stay at the clinic for this LSD. It was perhaps the prospect of a day off from Catholic girls' school that persuaded us to do it. I wasn't aware of making a 'decision.' The purpose of this program was never explained. There were to be 10 sessions - once a week for 10 weeks. I believe they started in January 1960.

"The experiences at the clinic where the LSD was administered were quite strange. There was a brief 'interview' by Dr. John Buckman, asking banal questions about health issues (none), but providing no information about what to expect from the LSD. There was no mention, for example, of hallucinations or perceptual distortions or anything frightening. I was not informed of any persistent effects, such as nightmares. Certainly the possibility of lasting damage was not mentioned. The word 'experiment' was not used. There was, in other words, no informed consent whatsoever. I was not told that I could refuse to participate, that I could quit at any time (as provided in the Nuremberg Code). Since I was below the age of consent, my parents would have been the ones to agree to this. Indeed, they were the ones to suggest that we be used in these experiments. It would not otherwise have happened. But my parents would never discuss this in later years and never explained why they did it.

"During the 10 sessions, each of which involved an injection, my sister and I were kept in separate bedrooms, darkened rooms, usually with someone present in the room, but I don't know who the person was. Occasionally, my mother was also present. At times, I was so frightened by the hallucinations that I screamed and tried to escape from the room. I remember once actually reaching the hallway and being forcibly put back into the bedroom by my mother. I saw a wild array of images - nightmarish visions, occasionally provoking hysterical laughter, followed immediately by wracking sobs. I had no idea what was happening to me. It was terrifying.

"There was no effort to counsel us during or after each of these sessions. There was no 'debriefing,' no explanation of what was happening or why this was being done to us. Why I did not refuse to participate after I first experienced it, I don't know. But as an adult and later as a professional medical ethicist, I recognized this lack of resistance as a function of childhood itself. Most children who are victims of parental abuse do not know how to resist. They fear rejection by parents more than they fear the abuse, it seems. The 'power differential' is huge between parents and children and the dependence on parents is virtually absolute. We were also, living in London at the time, away from our friends. My sister and I had been told not to talk about what we were doing. We were Catholics, obedient to parents, etc. Our father was a doctor, after all - it was hard to grasp that he would do harm to us or that our mother would. Children just don't think this way initially. A child's dependency usually means trusting one's parents or caregivers.

"Although each individual session was often terrifying, any lasting effects of the LSD unfolded gradually. In the weeks immediately following the final session, I experienced frequent nightmares - visions of crawling insects, horrible masks, etc. I couldn't sleep. I was afraid to shut my eyes. I became afraid of the dark. My parents were dismissive and unsympathetic. Their attitude was, in some ways, more disturbing to me than the experiments themselves because it meant that my parents had known full well that the experience would very likely be frightening - and hadn't cared.

"I discovered that my parents were dishonest and unfeeling in ways that I could not comprehend. They told my sister and me never to talk about the LSD experiences, never to disclose what had happened in London. This further ruptured our relationship with them, a relationship that was, by then, permanently damaged. I was still dependent on them, however and so was my sister.

"Two years after these experiments, during her freshman year in college, my sister suffered a nervous breakdown. I don't know the extent to which the LSD may have precipitated this. But my parents' response to what was probably a mild breakdown from which my sister could have recovered, was coercive and drastic. She had been asking questions about the LSD at this time. She was angry about it. We both were. We talked about it together, but I was afraid to confront our parents. My sister was not. The angrier she became, the more she was 'diagnosed' as a 'psychiatric' case and the more medication she was given. To this day, my sister is heavily medicated. She never fully recovered from that first episode.

"Our parents responded to my sister's anger in a way that frightened me further. I also felt tremendous guilt for not being able to prevent the horrors that my sister endured. Once she was 'classified' as a psychiatric patient, she was lost. Everything that was done to her in the name of 'treatment' seemed to me to be a form of ongoing abuse and torture.

"The fact that our father was a prominent, internationally known and widely respected physician - and his brother, who had introduced us to this LSD horror, was a prominent, internationally known and widely respected psychiatrist - made it impossible to expose them or go against them. Their reputations were more important to them than the health and well being of my sister.

"My own response was simply to leave home. I never trusted my parents again after the London LSD experience. I discovered many other ways in which my father and my uncle lied, covered up, dissembled and eventually threatened me, in order to keep this story from being told.

"On a positive note, the experience informed my career choices in both human rights and medical ethics, but it also made me alert to the ways in which academic medicine was - and is - corrupted by the drug industry itself and by the continuing abuse of human subjects to further the development of drugs as weapons - both for interrogation potential and also, more subtle behavior control on a massive scale. My own experience also sensitized me to the special vulnerability of children and teenagers in the medical environment.

"Even when I subsequently confronted my father with the evidence that LSD had been tested by the CIA for use as a military weapon in the 1950s and 1960s, he dismissed his participation by saying that it was an 'enlightening experience, like visiting an art gallery.' When I pointed out that this was not my experience as a child, he dismissed it, including the presumption that I must be a 'conspiracy theorist' to propose such a thing. At the age of 91, he finally admitted that it had perhaps not been a very good idea to subject my sister and me to LSD.

"Dr. Buckman and Ling were knowing participants in ongoing intelligence-based work with mind altering drugs. I 'met' Buckman in London when I was 13, but encountered him again years later at the university medical school in the United States where he was on the faculty.

"I went to see Dr. Buckman in his office. I asked him what he thought about the ethics of using children in an LSD experiment. At first, he didn't seem to realize who I was. I identified myself as one of his 'subjects' and gave him my business card as a Medical Ethicist and lawyer. He was clearly shocked, stood up, refused to talk to me and told me to leave his office. Shortly thereafter, I received a phone call from my father. His brother, the psychiatrist and colleague of Dr. Buckman, had been alerted to my impromptu visit. Subsequently, both my uncle and my father threatened me, saying they would make sure I lost my university faculty position if I disclosed anything publicly about the LSD experiments in London.

"'You will never work in bioethics again,' they said.

"The response of all these men to the threat of disclosure indicates their lack of ethical scruples, their lack of empathy, their own pathology. I don't know what the exact term would be, but I suspect there is a form of psychological 'doubling' at work - the sort of thing that was described in [Robert Jay Lifton's book, The Nazi Doctors who were able to ignore their Hippocratic oath to 'first, do no harm,' and to inflict unimaginable horrors on their fellow human beings.

"The loss of my sister has been a life long source of sorrow for me. I attribute it to the LSD and its cover up, whether the chemicals themselves 'caused' her disintegration or not. In law this is called a 'contributing cause.' I learned that people cover up the most awful things, not just within a family but within communities, within universities, within 'polite society.' There is probably no absolute barrier that will prevent these things from being done, but they have to be exposed and called out for what they are, whenever they occur."


Dr. Bender's LSD Experiments on Children

Shortly after deciding to initiate her own LSD experiments on children, Bender attended a conference sponsored by a CIA front group, the Josiah Macy Foundation. The conference focused on LSD research and featured Dr. Harold A. Abramson as a presenter. In 1960, Abramson conducted his own LSD experiments on a group of six children ranging in age from five to 14 years of age. A few short months after the Macy Foundation conference, Dr. Bender was notified that her planned LSD experiments would be partially and surreptitiously funded by the Society for the Investigation of Human Ecology (SIHE), another CIA front group then located in Forest Hills, New York. The Society, headed by James L. Monroe, a former US Air Force officer who had worked on top-secret psychological warfare and propaganda projects, oversaw about 55 top-secret experiments underwritten by the CIA. These projects involved LSD, ESP, black magic, astrology, psychological warfare, media manipulation, and other subjects. Apparently, Bender's work with children and LSD raised some concerns at the CIA's Technical Services Division (TSD). A 1961 TSD memo written to Monroe questioned the "operational benefits of Dr. Bender's work as related to children and LSD," and requested to be kept "closely appraised of the possible links between Dr. Bender's project and those being conducted under separate MK/ULTRA funding at designated prisons in New York and elsewhere."

In 1960, Dr. Bender launched her first experiments with LSD and children. They were conducted within the Children's Unit, Creedmoor State Hospital in Queens, New York. The LSD she used was supplied by Dr. Rudolph P. Bircher of the Sandoz Pharmaceutical Company. (Dr. Bircher also provided Bender with UML-491, also a Sandoz-produced product, very much like LSD but sometimes "dreamier" in effect and longer lasting.) Her initial group of young subjects consisted of 14 children diagnosed schizophrenic, all under the age of 11. (Because diagnostic criteria for schizophrenia, autism, and other disorders have changed over the decades, one cannot assess what actual conditions these children really had.) There were 11 boys and three girls, ranging in age from six to ten years old.

Jean Marie is almost seven years old. She came here nearly a year ago after her parents abandoned her to the care of an aunt who had no interest in raising her. Marie, who prefers to be called Jean, is shy, withdrawn, and distrustful of most adults she encounters. There are reports she may have been sexually molested by her uncle ... Despite her withdrawn nature she smiles easily, and enjoys the company of other children. After receiving LSD on three occasions earlier this month, Marie ceased smiling at all and lost any interest in others her age ... In the past week, she seems to have become easily agitated and has lost any interest in reading, something she seemed to very much enjoy before treatment.

In a published report on her 196 LSD experiments with 14 "autistic schizophrenic" children, Bender states she initially gave each of the children 25 mcg. of LSD "intramuscularly while under continuous observation." She writes: "The two oldest boys, over ten years, near or in early puberty, reacted with disturbed anxious behavior. The oldest and most disturbed received Amytal sodium 150 mg. intramuscularly and returned to his usual behavior." Both boys were then excluded from the experiment.

The 12 remaining children were then given injections of 25 mcg. of LSD and then days later were each given 100 mcg. of LSD once a week. Bender's report states: "Then it was increased gradually to twice and three times a week as no untoward side-effects were noticed.... Finally, it was given daily and this continued for six weeks until the time of this report."

Bender's findings and conclusions concerning her LSD experiments indicated she found the use of the drug promising. Bender reported: "In general, they [the children] were happier; their mood was 'high' in the hours following the ingestion of the drug ... they have become more spontaneously playful with balls and balloons ... their color is rosy rather than blue or pale and they have gained weight." Bender concluded: "The use of these drugs [LSD, UML-401, UML-491] ... will give us more knowledge about both the basic schizophrenic process and the defensive autism in children and also about the reaction of these dilysergic acid derivatives as central and autonomic nervous system stimulants and serotonin antagonists. Hopefully these drugs will also contribute to our efforts to find better therapeutic agents for early childhood schizophrenia."

In an article published in 1970, Dr. Bender reported on the results of LSD dosing upon "two adolescent boys who were mildly schizophrenic." She reported that the boys experienced perceptual distortions. They thought the researchers were making faces at them, that their pencils were becoming "rubbery," and one boy reported the other boy's face had turned green. The boys began to complain that they were being experimented upon. Even so, Bender and her associate continued the two male adolescents on a regimen of 150 mcg. per day, in divided doses, of LSD. While one of the boys supposedly "benefited very much," Bender report that he later returned to the hospital as "a disturbed adult schizophrenic." The other boy kept complaining that he was being experimented upon and they stopped giving him LSD, not because of the drug's effects itself, Bender explained, but "because of the boy's attitude towards it," which she attributed to "his own psychopathology."

Dr. Bender's LSD experiments continued into the late 1960s and, during that time, continued to include multiple experiments on children with UML-401, a little known LSD-type drug provided to her by the Sandoz Company, as well as UML-491, also a Sandoz product. Bender's reports on her LSD experiments give no indication of whether the parents or legal guardians of the subject children were aware of, or consented to, the experiments. Without doubt, parents or guardians were never informed that the CIA underwrote Bender's work. Over the years, there have been multiple reports that many of Bender's subject children were either "wards of the State" or orphans, but the available literature on the experiments reveals nothing on this. The same literature makes it obvious that the children had been confined to the Creedmoor State Hospital for long periods of time and that many, if discharged, needed "suitable homes or placements in the community." There is also no evidence that any follow-up studies were conducted on any of the children experimented upon by Dr. Bender. Today, Dr. Bender is best known and highly regarded in some circles as the creator of the Bender-Gestalt Test, which measures motor skills in children.
On Bender's use of LSD on children, Dr. Leon Eisenberg said years later: "She did all sorts of things. Lauretta Bender reached success in her career long before randomized controlled trials had even been heard of. She didn't see the need for trials of drugs because she was convinced she knew what worked." (See: "A History of Autism: Conversations with the Pioneers" by Adam Feinstein, Wiley-Blanchard, 2010.) Many other physicians speaking privately were far less diplomatic in condemning Bender's LSD work, but, still today, many are reluctant to criticize her, and, remarkably, many of the aging stalwarts of the arguable "virtues" and "potential" of LSD continue to cite her work with children as groundbreaking science.

Today, nearly 60 years beyond the horrors of Dr. Bender's CIA-sponsored experiments on children, few people are aware that they were conducted. For most people, regardless of their awareness of the experiments, it is difficult to fathom how intelligent, highly educated physicians and scientists could partake in such brutal, uncaring, unethical and illegal experiments on children. What was the basis of their motivation? Was it the quest for some sort of elusive medical grail? Was it for economic gain? Or was it simply the result of a misguided search for knowledge that appeared so infinitely important that any sense of compassion and respect for human rights and dignity was cast aside in the name of a higher goal or good - a search at times so exhilarating with the sense that one is at the precipice of a momentous discovery that any semblance of respect for humankind was thrown aside?

One can easily come to any and all these conclusions simply by reading the professional papers of such scientists and researchers. Not once do any of these papers express concern for the subjects at hand or denote any pangs of conscience at violating any oaths, codes and statutes regarding patient rights, human rights or human dignity. That America's most shameful period of human experimentation, the years 1950 through to about 1979, came on the heels of the making and adoption of the Nuremberg Codes only adds to the shame and hypocrisy. Today, human experimentation is still aggressively conducted by US government-sponsored and employed physicians and scientists regardless of those codes, which came directly out of the shocking madness of the Nazi era. That government-sponsored experimentation still occurs makes a mockery of any governmental efforts, however valid, to protect people from science run amok - and a nation that uses its young, its children, for such pursuits is a nation whose commitment to human rights and democratic principles should be seriously questioned and challenged.

(The names Marion McGill and that of her sister Trudy, are pseudonyms. Marion is a highly respected attorney and college professor, who asked that her real name not be used in this article. All other names in this article are real.)

http://www.truth-out.org/the-hidden-tra ... ldren62208

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Postby elfismiles » Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:18 pm

Just this past Sunday we had Mr. Albarelli back on the show. We briefly touched on the subject of this article.

Second PsiOp-Radio Albarelli Interview
http://media.blubrry.com/psiopradio/psi ... 00808a.mp3
[Unfortunately, he got cutoff prematurely during the final segment of the show]

First PsiOp-Radio Albarelli Interview
http://media.blubrry.com/psiopradio/psi ... 00502a.mp3
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Postby sw » Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:52 am

Of all the trauma I went through, the electro shock aspect has been the aspect that has fucked me over more than all the other rapes and torture combined. It messes up what the real memories are and what reality is. It takes a long time to sort out the memories and the memories that were planted in the electro shock torture.

Like for awhile, I was driving down the freeway one day just like I have been for the last 30 years and all of a sudden, I felt anxiety surge through me. But, it wasn't just anxiety, it was like ice going through my body and up my brain stem and made my head explode. I could not move my body, my hands, my feet, my arms. All this while driving down the freeway. Then, I'd get such a surge of pain in my head that I thought I was going to pass out. It hurt so bad, it felt like my very bones in my nose where exploding. I was barely able to pull over. It never happened on side streets. Only on freeways.

Found out it was a four year old female part who was electro shocked (something that happened to me alot) and she was electro shocked so that she was convinced that she was jfk and her head was blown off on the road just as they began to turn just a smidge to the right. Between the electro shock and having her brain exploded by the bullet which had become her memory after the electro shock treatment....I could not longer drive on the freeway. If I tried, the exploding anxiety, shock would pulse through my body and my head would explode and I'd have massive head aches and the kind of muscle pain you get when you are in a very bad accident and all of your muscles are dying. It would take a whole day to get over the headache and muscle pain.

that is what electro shock did to me. Made me question my memories. Made me question if I was jfk and had my head blown off. That memory that was planted feels like my own.

There are other memories that feel like my own because of these electro shock torture. Like the ones where I am raping kids and babies. I'd believe it all except for the fact that I am a male in all the memories and I have a penis and am violently shoving up some little boy's bottom. I was born in 1964 and still have a planted memory of being in WWI and being a male soldier whose buddies abandoned him while mustard gas went off in a field in Europe and I died.

That feels so damn real.

But, back to the rape planted memories. It's not just the screen memory that gets stored, it is the entire package of feelings of great pleasure that comes with the rape and conquest of a baby. How would you like carrying that around in you when your highest goal in life is to bring justice to perps but you carry around planted memories of being a perp yourself.

Fucking sucky way to start the day.
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Postby LilyPatToo » Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:23 pm

elfismiles, that was a chilling article to read, but I'm really interested right now in trying to grasp the personalities of the mind control program doctors. There are elements of extreme narcissism, sociopathy and probably a host of other anti-social personality disorders discernible in most cases, but there's also a really disturbing tendency by the people around them to enable their empathy-deficient and illegal actions. I remember the Cold War mindset--beat the Russians at all costs!--and it definitely worked to create a climate of anything goes in any realm of science where national security was (supposedly) involved. But I wonder if there wasn't some sort of adaptive, survival-linked tendency in witnesses going on too. Perhaps to placate ruthless sociopathic individuals by remaining silent about outrageous violations of human rights.

But the ghouls like Dr. Bender who preyed upon children in their programs are in a class all by themselves, to me, at least. sw, I'm so sorry about that poor child alter's suffering. I have a little boy alter who I've been visiting (mostly in dreams) since I was in elementary school. He lives in a state of almost unbearable anxiety in an outdoor mental space filled with file folders, all of which he is solely responsible for tending and keeping in order. The older ones from the 1950's are plain manila folders and they lie in precise rows on the grass. More modern ones from the 70's and 80's hang in the air, for some reason.

The terrified little boy doesn't own the files or even know what's inside them, in most cases. He's just held 100% responsible for keeping them in perfect order and accessible to whoever it was who set the system up or anyone they authorize to access information. When I'm in his presence or am viewing his world from inside his mind, I'm in a state of such terror that suicide is the only escape I can imagine. The punishments for failing at his job are electroshock and/or a strange fast-acting disease that dissolves his flesh like acid. He constantly weighs his chances of successfully killing himself against the likelihood that he'll be caught and tortured for even daring to try to escape.

The sort of thinking that could conceive of, justify and program a child's mind for use as a pre-computer-age hard drive is alien to me. But it seems to share a number of similarities to the minds of some hardline conservatives who see Nature as being handed to them by their God to ravage and exploit at their will. There's a basic disconnect between their capacity for human empathy and their decision to exploit other humans "for a just cause." It seems to allow them do their experiments, collect their payment and praise from colleagues and go home to their own kids afterward. Did they see us as "expendable" resources, rather than as someone's precious children? Did they ever wonder how their tests would affect us long term? Or were we never supposed to live long enough to see and possibly report the long-term damage?

And how did the program professionals' enablers live with their own behavior? Did Dr. Bender's colleagues ever lose sleep over what they knew of her torture of children? I guess if not for the internet, survivors are pretty unlikely to have surfaced and compared notes, so perhaps both perps and enablers just trusted to their privileged positions in society to shield them from repercussions. It makes me feel so sad and frustrated that most of mine have died before any legal action could be taken against them--and that's assuming that I could recall names and places with more accuracy than I have so far. It's just not right.

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Postby hava1 » Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:50 pm

sw wrote:Of all the trauma I went through, the electro shock aspect has been the aspect that has fucked me over more than all the other rapes and torture combined. It messes up what the real memories are and what reality is. It takes a long time to sort out the memories and the memories that were planted in the electro shock torture.

Like for awhile, I was driving down the freeway one day just like I have been for the last 30 years and all of a sudden, I felt anxiety surge through me. But, it wasn't just anxiety, it was like ice going through my body and up my brain stem and made my head explode. I could not move my body, my hands, my feet, my arms. All this while driving down the freeway. Then, I'd get such a surge of pain in my head that I thought I was going to pass out. It hurt so bad, it felt like my very bones in my nose where exploding. I was barely able to pull over. It never happened on side streets. Only on freeways.

Found out it was a four year old female part who was electro shocked (something that happened to me alot) and she was electro shocked so that she was convinced that she was jfk and her head was blown off on the road just as they began to turn just a smidge to the right. Between the electro shock and having her brain exploded by the bullet which had become her memory after the electro shock treatment....I could not longer drive on the freeway. If I tried, the exploding anxiety, shock would pulse through my body and my head would explode and I'd have massive head aches and the kind of muscle pain you get when you are in a very bad accident and all of your muscles are dying. It would take a whole day to get over the headache and muscle pain.

that is what electro shock did to me. Made me question my memories. Made me question if I was jfk and had my head blown off. That memory that was planted feels like my own.

There are other memories that feel like my own because of these electro shock torture. Like the ones where I am raping kids and babies. I'd believe it all except for the fact that I am a male in all the memories and I have a penis and am violently shoving up some little boy's bottom. I was born in 1964 and still have a planted memory of being in WWI and being a male soldier whose buddies abandoned him while mustard gas went off in a field in Europe and I died.

That feels so damn real.

But, back to the rape planted memories. It's not just the screen memory that gets stored, it is the entire package of feelings of great pleasure that comes with the rape and conquest of a baby. How would you like carrying that around in you when your highest goal in life is to bring justice to perps but you carry around planted memories of being a perp yourself.

Fucking sucky way to start the day.

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Postby blanc » Sat Aug 14, 2010 3:53 am

sw thank you for describing this in such a matter of fact way. I know others who have similarly had memory manipulated to scramble the boundries between the reality of themselves as victims of appalling crimes and the fiction of themselves as perpetrators of similar crimes. Pretty easy to see how convenient this is for the true perpetrators, and LP2 this is one of the clues to perpetrator mindset maybe? I mean that it represents a need not only on a practical level but also on a psychological level to 'turn' the victim into what they themselves are*, or to justify the punishment they are dishing out. (*here by instilling that fictional thought-crime I mean, or at a cruder level, in other scenarios, by giving the primary victim an unacceptable choice where a third party is harmed by their directed action or by their unknowing or unintended action)
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Postby LilyPatToo » Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:43 pm

It's partly that almost incomprehensible element--perps so inhuman that they could inflict horrific, twisted mind fucks on young alters sw and I and other survivors are now finding--that prevents most people from being able to believe us or to believe that there might be scientists walking around right now who are still doing it. Denial is huge in keeping the programs hidden.

Some days, I think of the trauma-based mind control programs of the 50's and 60's as a sort of happy hunting ground for psychopaths. I mean, I assume that most of the participants were probably brilliant, poorly-socialized and/or anti-social creeps with degrees. But some of their co-workers had to have been true monsters in human form to have done what they did. How did the person who programmed sw's untrue perp memories justify doing that to a kid?! Jesus. My mind struggles to grasp the mind that inflicted that damage on a child victim's mind.

It's almost like ordinary physical torture wasn't enough for some of them anymore--they needed to move into the mind's realm and inflict pain there, too...some of it probably to shield themselves in devious ways, but others seem more like bizarre fun & games to me--the random firings of bored psychopathic imaginations. The punishment that my little mind-folder-tending boy fears most is the flesh-eating acid. When he's re-lived it, it's felt to me almost like a computer program in action, a defensive subroutine set up to stop any rebellion on his part in its tracks. If he hands a folder to anyone who isn't authorized to see it, it activates a boiling, devouring line of bright pain that moves from the file to his hand and arm. The pain is indescribable and I can never stay in his point-of-view long enough to see what happens beyond about his shoulder.

Some sick fuck was amused by creating this stuff. That's what sticks in my craw the most at the moment.

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Postby sw » Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:04 pm

I'm not sure how others live their lives but I am pretty sure that others are kind of different at work than they are at home and different with church friends than say sports friends.

Being DID growing up and compartmentalizing all of the abuse and types of abuse was the way to survive. I went through all the therapy to become one and break down all the compartments. Now I wonder if I have set up a compartmentalized life again (although no where near as drastic) because I have to "be silent" about aspects of my life. I chose this out of survival kind of again because my life story is too overwhelming to others. Like some can get that family would abuse but it's too much with the priest stuff and then the govt stuff is way out there. Few believe that is eve a possibility.

Like the electro shock memories recently and my inability to drive on freeways much (but is getting a little better)...I don't tell my family of origin about any of it, don't tell my friends at work about any of it and I now don't tell my daughter because I found it was too much for her. It upset her so much I decided it was too much information for her. Now I just tell my therapist.

It's too much for my friends.

Now, I realize, much of what I think about in my life is back in compartments because no one else wants to hear, or can hear. Or the ones who can hear are burned out from listening all these years.

Some of these compartments have really thick walls. And their compartments must have been placed pretty far away from the others because I had no idea there was anything left.

These doctors were very good at what they did. It is so hard to figure out what happened. This reminds me of the post I did (deleted) where I wrote about sleeping with the enemy. Now I understand more about what I wrote because even a few years ago I did not really understand my memories and why I was a perp so often. I thought I dissociated into the perp, which could have happened and could account for some of these perp memories. But, not all the perp memories.


Not sure if I can post here anymore. At work on Friday, we just got news that no one can post at any social networking site, or blog, or political site and ID themselves as a govt employee or even use an alias on the site. I got in trouble for contacting my senator asking for help with a workman's comp claim with the Dept of Labor for mold exposure. I was blasted and according to this new interpretation of the Hatch laws, I was in violation for asking my senator for help and IDing myself as a federal employee. That seems wrong. And, I don't know why I can't post here either. Other federal employees can ID themselves with other causes as long as the cause makes the govt look good. My cause as in fighting for children of govt sponsored rape and torture programs is not one that makes the govt look good. They didn't mention about grandfather rules so I have no idea what the future holds.

I hope I am protected because no one would have ever known I posted here as sw until I filed the 2005 whistle blower paperwork.

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Postby LilyPatToo » Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:23 pm

sw, above all keep yourself safe! And why post about anything connected with this crap from a work computer anyway? I think if I were you I'd be using a public one at the library--in fact, if I'd been smart myself, that's what I would have done for the past 6 years. Oh, well, too late for that little insight to do me any good, but perhaps it'll help some anonymous survivor reading this post.

What you said about new compartments arising after "outing" yourself really rang a bell with me. Just a year or so ago, I made a shaky decision to reveal enough about a chronic pain issue of mine (that's a direct result of what was done to me) to my HMO (Kaiser Permanente) in order to try a new approach to treating it. It was like opening an industrial-sized can of humongous worms in such a way that the lid was inadvertently destroyed. And the medical approach to treating the pain not only didn't work, but led to a series of well-intentioned interventions by the Psychiatry Dept. that have opened yet more cans, but without any provision for the in-depth long-term therapy that would put those lids back on, either :cry:

Last night, I finally realized how awesomely I'd fucked up my life by trying to do what was sane, brave, right and smart and wrote out 2 difficult emails to 3 therapists, in which I explained only that I'd decided not to proceed with that type of therapy. This experience has brought me to a similar place where you are now, sw--the sad realization that what was done to me is so far beyond the grasp of even most therapists that I would have done better (for my alter system's sake and my marriage) if I'd just kept it all inside and dealt with it alone, bit by bit.

Wish I could give you a hug, because it's really coming home to me today that we risk further damage if we let "professionals" into our particularly unusually wounded minds. Perhaps it's better to just share info with other survivors and do what we can to empower activists at this stage in society's profound dissociation from the reality of systematized trauma....sucks, doesn't it? :shrug:

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PS It's not that I'm closed off from other options at all. Today's approach might not be what I espouse a year from now, but like sw I feel an urgent need to heal the newly-formed compartments full of my grief and anger at not being believed or validated. I feel like a little snail withdrawing from a painful stimulus and need to pull in my feelers for a bit :scaredhide:
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Postby Project Willow » Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:06 pm

I was walking around New York this week and everywhere were posters for some new movie (and I'm sorry if I trigger anyone) called The Expendables and I thought, how appropriate. Well, I for one am sick of being treated that way. I'm tired of asking, I'm tired of waiting, and I'm tired of hand holding.

I was talking to an acquaintance the other day and she went off on how hard it is for her to understand my experience, how far out of her imagination it is. I responded by asking her if she cared whether her children's children might be subjected to torture and manipulation. She said of course she did. So I told her she had no choice but to understand. I had an impulse to suggest she begin immediately.

Well, we do have each other. Actually, at the conference it was apparent we have a great deal of strength and energy to invest in what I hope will be an even louder collective voice over the next year.

sw, the programming you describe, I remember the flickering projectors in the lab rooms, the war footage, the camp footage, the carnage, and how those visuals were combined with electroshock to form alters' beliefs and behaviors. Your little one, I hope, will come to understand he is no longer in that place. I remember how some sick, sick perp came up with the idea of faking amputation using electroshock, blood, and nerve blocking anesthesia. That's just one example of hundreds and represents years of planning by a group of indescribably sick fucks. I remember how some of them conceptualized their work. They considered themselves engineers of behavior. Pain, to their thinking, was one cog in a machine or system that output a product, the subject, who of course was not in any way considered animate except in the sense that calculations were based on nerve and flesh rather than metal.
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Postby hava1 » Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:18 pm

Project Willow wrote:I was walking around New York this week and everywhere were posters for some new movie (and I'm sorry if I trigger anyone) called The Expendables and I thought, how appropriate. Well, I for one am sick of being treated that way. I'm tired of asking, I'm tired of waiting, and I'm tired of hand holding.

I was talking to an acquaintance the other day and she went off on how hard it is for her to understand my experience, how far out of her imagination it is. I responded by asking her if she cared whether her children's children might be subjected to torture and manipulation. She said of course she did. So I told her she had no choice but to understand. I had an impulse to suggest she begin immediately.



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Postby sw » Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:48 pm

It's great to get perspective here. Can't find it many others places.

I don't post on govt time or on a govt computer. It's what you do in your home time when you tell others you work for the govt. I've never seen this done like this before. I think the Internet has opened up opportunities that did not exist before for all types of ethical opportunities.

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Postby LilyPatToo » Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:31 pm

sw said:
I don't post on govt time or on a govt computer. It's what you do in your home time when you tell others you work for the govt.

Oh, OK--I misunderstood. Sorry, I do know firsthand how closely government employees' interest in anything mind control program related is monitored. The last time I went back east to visit with my family, my niece, a govt. employee, asked about some strange stuff in my childhood that's related to the early programs. She was intrigued and asked me to email her more information and sources, so I did--to her personal home email address--telling myself that the misgivings I felt at doing that were pure paranoia--who would care, really? And she works with veterans, some of whom present now and then with very similar really bizarre stories, so she had a reason for wanting more information.

Well, as it turned out, someone cared enough to mess with my email account and excise that particular conversation from my computer. They were the only messages that were missing and my husband, a computer pro, was unable to find them anywhere on the hard drive or even on our back-up drive. Then it occurred to him to go back to the online email server (which he'd already checked, of course) and dig around in the deleted messages area again--and there, all by its lonesome, was just one of the missing messages. Whoever scrubbed them screwed up and erased almost all, but not quite.

Hubby's a total skeptic of everything that could even tangentially be labeled "conspiracy" so of course he insisted that I must have done it and then forgotten doing it. "In the middle of an interesting conversation?!" I asked incredulously. He did his usual *scurrying away now/very busy* act then and I made the decision to simply drop the conversation with my niece then and there. She's doing well in her career and knowing about MKULTRA etc. apparently isn't something that would sit well with someone in some intelligence agency somewhere. And it didn't take them long at all to act, either, which was a bit creepy. I'm not one of the paranoid schizophrenic brigade who imagines a bunch of highly-paid professional agents monitoring their every move, so I had to wonder WTF was urgent enough about my conversation with my niece to warrant such timely intervention.

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Postby blanc » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:55 pm

sw I hope you stay safe and are not penalised for contributing to discussions. Its so wrong and undemocratic that workplace should define all areas of a person's life.

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"I was talking to an acquaintance the other day and she went off on how hard it is for her to understand my experience, how far out of her imagination it is. I responded by asking her if she cared whether her children's children might be subjected to torture and manipulation. She said of course she did. So I told her she had no choice but to understand. I had an impulse to suggest she begin immediately."

Yes. Its a dilemma which reinvents itself over and over. To tell or not to tell. To share the pain of knowing with all that goes with it, or allow someone to keep their tranquility. There should be an encyclopaedia of this information - searchable, available. There should be a way of bearing witness in order to hinder future crime, but as yet I don't know what that is.
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Postby Iamwhomiam » Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:41 pm

What I know about this I have learned here on RI and my heart simply aches for those of you who share such horrific experiences. I do not know much about possible 'triggers', so please be forewarned that the following article relating the sentencing of one who long ago acted out his desires, and surely would have done so again, had he not been caught by undercover police may in and of itself be a trigger. I won't be commenting, except to say I'm glad this monster was caught and that his sentence is far too light. The only good news in this is that those like him he communicated with are now also being investigated. Yes, he was a Republican.

12 years for act without defense
By ROBERT GAVIN Staff Writer
Published: 03:58 p.m., Tuesday, August 10, 2010

ALBANY -- Disgraced former state parole board member George "Chris" Ortloff was sentenced Tuesday to more than 12 years in federal prison for trying to arrange the rape of two preteen girls at a Colonie motel through their "mother," an undercover State Police investigator.

In a speech that went on for about 20 minutes, Ortloff apologized -- "There's no defense for this offense," he said -- and compared his online activities to a cancer.

"I tell you today that I am already healed," said Ortloff, 62, a married father of two sons. "I don't have these desires any more. ... I don't think about young kids. I never did when I wasn't online."

Ortloff, a former Republican assemblyman from Plattsburgh, faced at least 10 years in prison; prosecutors recommended up to nearly 20 years. The sentencing had been delayed several times. Ortloff pleaded guilty to federal coercion and enticement charges on Dec. 24, 2008.

On Tuesday, he read a prepared statement, his voice taking over the courtroom not unlike the way state lawmakers hold forth on the floor of the state Assembly. But on this day, Ortloff claimed to have a "normal, healthy sex life," admitted he had committed adultery for 20 years and even quoted Shakespeare. He repeatedly blamed the Internet as the vehicle to his downfall into infamy.

Ortloff called on others like him to "stop now -- and never look back."

His attorney, Andrew Safranko, told Senior Judge Thomas McAvoy his client had never abused any children. He asked for the mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years. He said two clients facing similar charges under similar circumstances in state court received sentences of six months and three years.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Thomas Spina, who prosecuted the case, told McAvoy, "He does pose a danger to the community. This defendant does have sexual interest in children."

The judge told Ortloff, "Children cannot defend themselves ... there's not enough words in the English language to point out how serious I find your conduct was."

Ortloff's sister, Susan Ortloff Cameron of Lake Placid, was among the family members attending the sentence. She issued a statement that called the case a "tragedy." It also stated, "It's important to clarify that Chris' family are the only victims of any of his activities of his crime."

Spina told McAvoy that, contrary to defense arguments, Ortloff's case included victims. He noted that Ortloff had watched child pornography.

Earlier this month the Times Union reported that Ortloff kept a secret computer account that led authorities to some 15 other suspected sex offenders. While debriefed by State Police and the FBI, Ortloff told investigators he created an Excel spreadsheet to document individuals with whom he was communicating online. The spreadsheet -- hidden inside a separate document containing information about Ortloff's travels for his state job -- was color-coded. The memo said Ortloff told investigators that "items highlighted in light green represented conversations he had with others about incest and young children."

A person with knowledge of the case told the Times Union the spreadsheet included information about "swinging" with married women, and referred to Ortloff's professed intention to breed a female child to use as a sex slave. He also wanted to know the best time during ovulation to conceive a female, the source said.

Ortloff was arrested following a lengthy dragnet in which the undercover investigator engaged in several online conversations with him. He was nabbed Oct. 13, 2008, after arriving at the motel with condoms, lubricant and a camera. Prosecutors said he was hoping to meet two sisters, ages 11 and 12, and was "buck naked" at one point.

His arrest came after Ortloff not only watched child pornography with the undercover cop but showcased sex toys for his would-be partners.

He told the undercover officer, "I want them to practice with them. That's going to be their homework."

Among other details, federal prosecutors in Albany have revealed Ortloff admitted having sex with two girls, ages 9 and 11, while serving in the Air Force.

They said he also expressed a fondness for "infants and toddlers." A prosecution sentencing memo also noted that Ortloff admitted that at age 9 he had sex with other children -- ages 7, 9 and 12.

article Pre-sentencing article here.

David Kaczynski on Ortloff here.
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