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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:07 pm

Nathan wrote:You know, "reality tunnel"


I know what you mean Nathan. Here's a "reality tunnel" for yer ownself.

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This was from the 2008 elections. Let us fast forward to 2010 and a 60 plus swing (in favor of the red) in the house not to mention state politics. Do you imagine this "tunnel" might be any darker shade o' blue? This after Obama somehow failed his base (BTW - The perpetually petulant and disenfranchised far left -NEVER- constituted his base)?

Say goodbye Mr. Feingold, say goodbye Mr. Grayson. Hello redistricting...

In Redistricting Year, GOP Gains a Big Edge
Nov 4 2010, 1:18 PM ET

With the completion of the 2010 Census, it will soon be time for states to redraw their congressional districts, and while different states will do this differently, Republicans have gained a big edge by taking over legislatures and governorships across the country.

Republicans picked up 680 state legislative seats across the U.S. on Tuesday night, Hotline OnCall's Jeremy Jacobs reports, far surpassing the 472 seats Republicans gained in 1994.

And by the Republican State Leadership Committee's count, the GOP flipped control of 19 state legislative bodies in Alabama, Colorado, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Minnesota, Michigan, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

GOP wins in governors races have, as Jacobs notes, yielded 15 states in which Republicans achieved the redistricting "trifecta," controlling both state legislative chambers plus the governor's mansion. The GOP also will control Nebraska's governorship and its unicameral legislature.

Which means the impact of the 2010 elections will be felt for the next 10 years.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/arc ... dge/66128/


I find it truly hilarious (in a tragically sad kinda way) that most of you will spend the next 10 to 20 years of your lives (if not the remainder of them) being as pathetically hopeless and perpetually angry as our friend Nordic (someday I'll have to ask him what that's like), simply because most of you were to shortsighted and politically ignorant to even attempt to see your true enemy. Trust me, it wasn't dat nigga in da White House.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Montag » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:13 pm

Your prized Democrats all won in my state, my staying home didn't sanction their corporatist agenda...

How's the pay and benefits in pushing corporatism CC?
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Thu Nov 04, 2010 8:41 pm

Montag wrote:Your prized Democrats all won in my state, my staying home didn't sanction their corporatist agenda...

How's the pay and benefits in pushing corporatism CC?


I wouldn't know friend but would suggest you look in the mirror and ask yourself what it may have ultimately cost you because by "staying home" you and those like you have pushed corporatism down the road much farther than I have. The best part is is that it didn't cost the Koch Brothers, The Chamber of Commerce or Rupert Murdoch a dime. And they thank you...

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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:41 pm

Cosmic Cowbell wrote:
I find it truly hilarious (in a tragically sad kinda way) that most of you will spend the next 10 to 20 years of your lives (if not the remainder of them) being as pathetically hopeless and perpetually angry as our friend Nordic (someday I'll have to ask him what that's like), simply because most of you were to shortsighted and politically ignorant to even attempt to see your true enemy. Trust me, it wasn't dat nigga in da White House.


Very nice, CC.

Conflate criticism of Obama with racism.

Did you get that one directly out of the idiot's guide to self-marginalization?
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Simulist » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:46 pm

Cosmic Cowbell wrote:Trust me, it wasn't dat nigga in da White House.

Your opinions are one thing, but your language is offensive and intolerable.

(Even in a thread entitled "Fuck Obama.")
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:13 pm

Simulist wrote:
Cosmic Cowbell wrote:Trust me, it wasn't dat nigga in da White House.

Your opinions are one thing, but your language is offensive and intolerable.

(Even in a thread entitled "Fuck Obama.")


I'm just saying what you all are implying with the "corporatist tool" label but are simply too chickenshit to say. Or didn't you realize that (which, granted, is certainly a distinct possibility amongst some of the more "challenged" here)?

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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby norton ash » Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:17 pm

"Corporatist tool" implies whaaaaa?

And Spiderman shows up. That's it for me.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Simulist » Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:20 pm

Cosmic Cowbell wrote:
Simulist wrote:
Cosmic Cowbell wrote:Trust me, it wasn't dat nigga in da White House.

Your opinions are one thing, but your language is offensive and intolerable.

(Even in a thread entitled "Fuck Obama.")


I'm just saying what you all are implying with the "corporatist tool" label but are simply too chickenshit to say.

No. Whatever your reasons, you've decided to use racist language — a specific word with a history that is deeply hurtful to many people in general and to several of my own family members, specifically.

And it shouldn't be tolerated here — with or without comment.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Thu Nov 04, 2010 10:39 pm

norton ash wrote:"Corporatist tool" implies whaaaaa?


It's the far left version of the far rights "Obama's a Muslim" rants, albeit couched in safe language. And just as simplistic and disgusting to me. But hey, if you don't see it, you don't see it.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Montag » Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:37 pm

Cosmic Cowbell wrote:
It's the far left version of the far rights "Obama's a Muslim" rants, albeit couched in safe language. And just as simplistic and disgusting to me. But hey, if you don't see it, you don't see it.


Read The Shock Doctrine, it's implies no such thing... If you read anything other than "change" websites and D triple C approved manuscripts.
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:48 pm

Cosmic Cowbell wrote:
norton ash wrote:"Corporatist tool" implies whaaaaa?


It's the far left version of the far rights "Obama's a Muslim" rants, albeit couched in safe language. And just as simplistic and disgusting to me. But hey, if you don't see it, you don't see it.


Wow, I've unwittingly used the hateful, racially pejorative term "corporatist tool" multiple times per day for the past 5 or 6 years, at least, to describe people of every race, color, creed, religion, etc. Most of those people are white, privileged asshole politicians who, you know, serve corporatist interests as opposed to the majority of their constituents, but thanks for showing me the error of my racist ways, CC.

What criticism could I loft at Obama, George W. Bush, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Chris Matthews, John Roberts, Brit Hume, et al. without being considered a racist?
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Cosmic Cowbell » Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:19 am

Bruce Dazzling wrote:
Cosmic Cowbell wrote:
norton ash wrote:"Corporatist tool" implies whaaaaa?


It's the far left version of the far rights "Obama's a Muslim" rants, albeit couched in safe language. And just as simplistic and disgusting to me. But hey, if you don't see it, you don't see it.


Wow, I've unwittingly used the hateful, racially pejorative term "corporatist tool" multiple times per day for the past 5 or 6 years, at least, to describe people of every race, color, creed, religion, etc. Most of those people are white, privileged asshole politicians who, you know, serve corporatist interests as opposed to the majority of their constituents, but thanks for showing me the error of my racist ways, CC.

What criticism could I loft at Obama, George W. Bush, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Chris Matthews, John Roberts, Brit Hume, et al. without being considered a racist?


I find it telling that out of the past six years "at least" you could only find one person of color to include in your list. The one who wrote the following:

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
June 18, 2010

Presidential Memorandum--Lobbyists on Agency Boards and Commissions

MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES

SUBJECT: Lobbyists on Agency Boards and Commissions

My Administration is committed to reducing the undue influence of special interests that for too long has shaped the national agenda and drowned out the voices of ordinary Americans. Special interests exert this disproportionate influence, in part, by relying on lobbyists who have special access that is not available to all citizens. Although lobbyists can sometimes play a constructive role by communicating information to the government, their service in privileged positions within the executive branch can perpetuate the culture of special interest access that I am committed to changing.

On the day after my inauguration, I signed Executive Order 13490, which places strict limits on the ability of lobbyists to serve in Government positions related to their prior lobbying activities. Last September, we took another step to close the revolving door through which lobbyists enter and exit Government positions when we announced that my Administration aspires to keep Federal agencies' advisory boards free of federally registered lobbyists. Many departments and agencies are making this aspiration a reality by no longer placing federally registered lobbyists on advisory boards, a practice that I am now establishing as the official policy of my Administration.

Accordingly, I hereby direct the heads of executive departments and agencies not to make any new appointments or reappointments of federally registered lobbyists to advisory committees and other boards and commissions. Within 90 days of the date of this memorandum, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall issue proposed guidance designed to implement this policy to the full extent permitted by law. The final guidance shall be issued following public comment on the proposed guidance.

This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

The Director of the Office of Management and Budget is hereby authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.

BARACK OBAMA

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-off ... ommissions


Why bother? No one, left or right was particularly pushing hard for this and yet he followed up on a campaign promise. Being the corporatist tool that he's accused of being and having broke so many other promises in the view of progressives, why bother following up on this one? Maybe because he's nobodies "tool"? Could it be so?

With that point of view, one could reasonably surmise that the inclusion of Obama in your list -might- be due to something floating around in the ole subconscious?

There are tools and then there are "tools". Why don't you blog about that Bruce?
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:23 am

Cosmic Cowbell wrote:
Bruce Dazzling wrote:
Cosmic Cowbell wrote:
norton ash wrote:"Corporatist tool" implies whaaaaa?


It's the far left version of the far rights "Obama's a Muslim" rants, albeit couched in safe language. And just as simplistic and disgusting to me. But hey, if you don't see it, you don't see it.


Wow, I've unwittingly used the hateful, racially pejorative term "corporatist tool" multiple times per day for the past 5 or 6 years, at least, to describe people of every race, color, creed, religion, etc. Most of those people are white, privileged asshole politicians who, you know, serve corporatist interests as opposed to the majority of their constituents, but thanks for showing me the error of my racist ways, CC.

What criticism could I loft at Obama, George W. Bush, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Chris Matthews, John Roberts, Brit Hume, et al. without being considered a racist?


I find it telling that out of the past six years "at least" you could only find one person of color to include in your list. The one who wrote the following:

The White House

Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
June 18, 2010

Presidential Memorandum--Lobbyists on Agency Boards and Commissions

MEMORANDUM FOR THE HEADS OF EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENTS AND AGENCIES

SUBJECT: Lobbyists on Agency Boards and Commissions

My Administration is committed to reducing the undue influence of special interests that for too long has shaped the national agenda and drowned out the voices of ordinary Americans. Special interests exert this disproportionate influence, in part, by relying on lobbyists who have special access that is not available to all citizens. Although lobbyists can sometimes play a constructive role by communicating information to the government, their service in privileged positions within the executive branch can perpetuate the culture of special interest access that I am committed to changing.

On the day after my inauguration, I signed Executive Order 13490, which places strict limits on the ability of lobbyists to serve in Government positions related to their prior lobbying activities. Last September, we took another step to close the revolving door through which lobbyists enter and exit Government positions when we announced that my Administration aspires to keep Federal agencies' advisory boards free of federally registered lobbyists. Many departments and agencies are making this aspiration a reality by no longer placing federally registered lobbyists on advisory boards, a practice that I am now establishing as the official policy of my Administration.

Accordingly, I hereby direct the heads of executive departments and agencies not to make any new appointments or reappointments of federally registered lobbyists to advisory committees and other boards and commissions. Within 90 days of the date of this memorandum, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget shall issue proposed guidance designed to implement this policy to the full extent permitted by law. The final guidance shall be issued following public comment on the proposed guidance.

This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

The Director of the Office of Management and Budget is hereby authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.

BARACK OBAMA

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-off ... ommissions


Why bother? No one, left or right was particularly pushing hard for this and yet he followed up on a campaign promise. Being the corporatist tool that he's accused of being and having broke so many other promises in the view of progressives, why bother following up on this one? Maybe because he's nobodies "tool"? Could it be so?

With that point of view, one could reasonably surmise that the inclusion of Obama in your list -might- be due to something floating around in the ole subconscious?

There are tools and then there are "tools". Why don't you blog about that Bruce?


You find it "telling?"

Wait, now you seem to be implying that I'm MORE racist because I only included one person of color on my list of corporatist tools?

You wear newspeak extremely well, CC.

Thank goodness that Obama signed that executive order that you posted, or else the health care lobbyists may have been able to persuade him to allow Liz Fowler to write single-payer and a public option out of the health care bill, even though that's what the majority of the non-corporate entities in his constituency wanted.

Oh, wait...

And it's really lucky for the gulf coast that Obama signed that executive order, or else oil lobbyists may have been able to persuade his administration to grant BP waivers exempting them from detailed studies of their environmental impact before drilling the Deepwater Horizon well.

Shit, wrong again...
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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Fri Nov 05, 2010 1:37 am

Oh, and by the way, CC, I'm done interacting with you and your imbecilic insinuations.

If you wanted to prove that you have absolutely no credibility, you've done a tremendous job.

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Re: Fuck Obama

Postby 82_28 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:24 am

Here's what I think.

I don't believe anybody here is being racist from what I have read. I think that terms are slung around. I don't use the term "nigga", even though it is slang, because well, I don't. It cuts too close to the bone and as a white guy, I have no business using it as slang. Karma/golden rule. I never use any term other than "what a fag" when I'm talking about some frat boy on his longboard pretending like he's playing drums as he rolls down the street. I guess I tend to use the equally as caustic term "motherfucker" a whole hell of a lot. This probably doesn't make women or mothers happy. However it's not literal and I do not believe from what I do not know about CC that he meant anything racial.

Again, here's what I think. Obama is a stooge, who will make out just fine once he's done with his "job". They have fueled the that he's black thing to the max. I didn't vote for him or vote at all because I myself resented that all of my arguments against this Obama figure were identical to what a racist would say. "They're using him because he's black and he's coming on the heels of bush". "Look at him playing basketball". "Obama's march madness brackets on ESPN" etc etc. Anything I could say to criticize the figure of Obama before he was elected was locked in by the double bind. You can't have a made up an arch enemy named Osama and a Hussein and the first black president in the "racially charged" USofA after a 9/11 in which it stirred all kinds of essential racial shit and NOT THOUGHT that OF COURSE, idiots are gonna glom onto this shit. This was the point! It was foreseeable four if not six years ago when he was elected to senate. Liberalism is managed by treats, such as the "defeat" of racism and segregation, while they allow the wingers to do what they do. It's all managed. But to argue this and to take into account the racial aspect of this along with the obvious scams of 9/11 and the Iraq holocaust was to sound exactly like a racist. It separated us (RI type people) from our liberal brethren and shoved us closer to the Ron Pauls. It's because there is a profound and deliberate "mix up" in memes and it is meant to be that way.

There are some smart motherfuckers out there who know how to market shit that makes no sense. You go with the most obvious and make it look as though it isn't. Barack Hussein Obama -- liberal -- socialist -- corporatist -- black guy -- racism gone -- all perceptions to all people. You grease the skids when John Kerry loses by inserting him into the senate as "presidential material" in 2004. You get the buzz going. Defeat, overturn, overcome all racism four years later. That's what the libs I know thought happened. I got into more arguments with liberals than ever. They couldn't stand that I called it bullshit. Liberals don't like the idea of having to take psy-ops seriously.

Anyways, I'm done writing. But this shit's a scam. Don't use that term CC and you won't piss some off here. I think I got what you were saying, but as liberals, as leftists, as anti-racists it still isn't cool. I mean this in all seriousness, we must somehow maintain our identity and if we're all "crackers" like wombat likes to say, it's not a word for us to use in serious, semi serious or non serious discourse on RI.

And I ain't no motherfucking rule follower either. Booyah!
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