Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

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Re: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

Postby Nordic » Thu Nov 04, 2010 12:47 pm

I agree with the cryptogon guy, this is one of those things that make you go "huh?" because there it is, right out in the open, and nobody knows what to think of it, almost like a UFO at O'Hare airport or something.

I guess we'll just ignore it and move on!
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Re: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Thu Nov 04, 2010 1:17 pm

Why is it that people with this type of information always make certain to look crazy while presenting it?

It reminds me of the ending of the movie The China Syndrome, where Jack Lemon's character forcibly shuts down a nuclear power plant because it's unsafe and demands to speak to the press.

Of course, a SWAT team kills him before he can say too much, but what he does say is rambling and doddering in the same way that Lord James of Blackheath is, and when the hired gun P.R. guy is asked by the company CEO how much of the speech got on the air, the P.R. guy assures him that it was "only enough to make him look insane."

Argh.

And I find it VERY interesting that the Lord is asked to "draw his remarks to a conclusion" right after he mentions the Vatican bank...

Oh, and how is it that there's only a few clips of The China Syndrome on Youtube? Great freaking movie, that one is.
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Re: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

Postby Simulist » Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:16 pm

Bruce, you are unfailingly insightful.
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Re: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:38 pm

Simulist wrote:Bruce, you are unfailingly insightful.


Coming from someone as insightful as yourself, I take that as a tremendous compliment.

:cheers:
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Re: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

Postby psynapz » Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:11 am

Stephen Morgan wrote:as a youngster, he was sent by the Council to a school for the mentally subnormal, only to then be recruited into a school for brilliant foreign children

Sounds a bit like Whitley Strieber there. Another parallel...
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Re: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

Postby brainpanhandler » Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:33 am

Bruce Dazzling wrote:
Simulist wrote:Bruce, you are unfailingly insightful.


Coming from someone as insightful as yourself, I take that as a tremendous compliment.

:cheers:


Let me guess.... you two are really the same person, aren't you?
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Re: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

Postby AhabsOtherLeg » Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:55 am

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He personally wrote off over 1 billion pounds of IRA money, and is alive. I can see two glaring problems in that account.

EDIT: Could it just be these guys mining for publicity, and hitting unexpected paydirt? http://thexfoundation.org/

They say they are dedicated to raising funds in "highly original ways". "We stage spectacular events, plan provocative campaigns... and devise ingenious ways of making a difference."

They're called the X Foundation. But this will propably have been dicounted before.

It's more likely he's senile or drunk (or both).
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Re: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

Postby madeupname452 » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:44 pm

72 people report the crime of terrorist money laundering by Lord James of Blackheath and the Bank of England to the police.
http://captainranty.blogspot.com/2010/11/lord-james-crime-report-exclusive.html

The Tap blog thinks that foundation X is Prince Charles and cites the work of Joan Veon in support as one of the best sources as to who and what is behind these shady power structures that exist over and beyond government.
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Re: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

Postby streeb » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:33 pm

In this ZDNet piece Lord James says he was a "money washer, not a money launderer...".

James was to run the companies down, as they had been identified as conduits for IRA funds.

"The IRA had five companies completely ruined," said James. "They had built the companies up as pensions funds."

James' express instructions were to run the companies down and liquidise the assets, he said.


But in his speech to the Lords he describes the IRA as his "client." What gives?
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Re: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

Postby Elvis » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:45 pm

justdrew wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_International_Treasury_Control


Following Justdrew's link (worth reading), we find the "OITC":

http://www.unoitc.org/

Seems to fit the bill for "Foundation X"...question is, what the hell are they up to?
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Re: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

Postby justdrew » Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:03 pm

streeb wrote:In this ZNet piece Lord James says he was a "money washer, not a money launderer...".

James was to run the companies down, as they had been identified as conduits for IRA funds.

"The IRA had five companies completely ruined," said James. "They had built the companies up as pensions funds."

James' express instructions were to run the companies down and liquidise the assets, he said.


But in his speech to the Lords he describes the IRA as his "client." What gives?


I think he means he was charged with phucking up their finances. at one point he mentions having taken X amount of money from them. I think that's what he means by 'wrote off' (as in 'made vanish').
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Banks using front companies to buy local governments...

Postby MinM » Wed Nov 10, 2010 2:48 pm

A somewhat related story, albeit at a local level, I ran across recently. The gist of it involves Banks, Chase, BoA, Wells Fargo et al., creating front companies that go around bailing out local municipalities. All they ask for in return is the right to collect property taxes. The 'good' part of this deal is that you don't have to worry if payment is a day or two late. You'll just have to pay the equivalent to a delinquent credit card rate of 20 - 30% and everyone's happy.

These Banksters have quite the racket. Divisions that run the gamut from making home loans, to actively undermining those loans, and the part that deals with the derivatives that bet those loans will fail. This all the while they are secure in the knowledge that they are shielded from all and any liability.
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Re: Banks using front companies to buy local governments...

Postby psynapz » Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:06 pm

MinM wrote:A somewhat related story, albeit at a local level, I ran across recently. The gist of it involves Banks, Chase, BoA, Wells Fargo et al., creating front companies that go around bailing out local municipalities. All they ask for in return is the right to collect property taxes. The 'good' part of this deal is that you don't have to worry if payment is a day or two late. You'll just have to pay the equivalent to a delinquent credit card rate of 20 - 30% and everyone's happy.

Utterly horrifying.
MinM wrote:These Banksters have quite the racket. Divisions that run the gamut from making home loans, to actively undermining those loans, and the part that deals with the derivatives that bet those loans will fail. This all the while they are secure in the knowledge that they are shielded from all and any liability.

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Re: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

Postby semper occultus » Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:32 pm

Lord James has some interesting affiliations but I think his comments re his terrorist associations are an inside "joke" for to his chums sitting around in an oak panelled smoking room in some club somewhere......

It was through another gun - Saddam Hussein's supergun, and his key role in exposing it - that a decade ago James first made the transition from the business pages to the front pages. The affair also cemented his close links with the security services. As the Scott report into arms sent to Iraq makes clear, James did much of the legwork for MI6.

He first noticing the gun's three huge steel tubes, "the thinnest of which had a thumping great muzzle, like something from a strip cartoon siege gun", during a tour of Walter Somers' factory at Halesowen in the West Midlands.

A week after he passed his suspicions on to an MI6 contact called Mr Q, Gerald Bull, the supergun's Canadian designer, was assassinated in Brussels.

James later used his banking contacts to track down the rest of the weapon, which was supposed to fire anthrax shells into Israel, before it left Teesport docks. Part of this cloak-and-dagger operation involved him getting 900 documents from Walter Somers' offices which were photographed secretly through the night with MI6 equipment set up in a room at a Halesowen hotel.


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Re: Did somebody just try to buy the British government?

Postby streeb » Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:42 pm

justdrew
I think he means he was charged with phucking up their finances. at one point he mentions having taken X amount of money from them. I think that's what he means by 'wrote off' (as in 'made vanish').


Right, this is how he clarified his statement to ZDNet, but in the House he's talking about a "client". I'd let it go and just assume that I'm not au fait with the language he's using in this context, but he follows by telling everybody not to bother going to the police with this information because he's protected by the Bank of England. Is this because the IRA was actually some kind of on-the-books client and Lord James of BlackOps was sent into to douche them out of their one billion pounds? What is he, a double agent? And why is he still alive? Or Was Lord James telling his Peers something he figured wouldn't ever make it out of Hansard? Is the ZDNet piece damage control? I'm sincerely confused. Somebody help me out.

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