Perv scanner refusenik gets TSA Catch-22, audio goes viral

[Simulist]

Bottom line for me, until these procedures are changed, I shall not fly.

Right on.

[82_28]

Bottom line for me, until these procedures are changed, I shall not fly.

Right on.

Ditto. Nor will I fly again. No place is important enough to get to and go through the humiliation of the psy-op of totalitarian security theater. I don't know if it's more of a protest or more of a protection mechanism of being creeped out by exactly what I have feared would happen for years now. Yet, the day is going to come where I will have to inevitably fly somewhere. This shit is so multi-pronged, the meanings behind all of this and has absolutely nothing to do with safety. This much is more than clear.

[Luther Blissett]

I was just told by a fellow debater that he hopes a flaming 747 crashes into my next tea party rally because I'm against this. Now it's getting bad.

[tazmic]

via cryptogon:

The flying public has won a small victory in the fight over airport pat downs and more intrusive searches with the Transportation Security Agency: For now, the agency isn't planning to take the next step toward body cavity searches. "We're not going to get in the business of body cavities, that's not where we are," says TSA Administrator John Pistole.

Continuing a P.R. offensive today, he told reporters that there are ways to detect explosives in a body cavity other than a strip search. "Even if it is a body cavity [bomb], you still have to have an initiator, you have to have some external device to cause that initiation," he said. "There's got to be something external that you can then initiate the device and that's what the advance imaging technology machine will pick up: Any anomaly outside of the body."

Christ on a bike.

tsa-promise-no-cavity-searches

[Simulist]

I was just told by a fellow debater that he hopes a flaming 747 crashes into my next tea party rally because I'm against this. Now it's getting bad.

He sounds like a master debater.

[LilyPatToo]

Didn't mean to come across as saying that only sex abuse survivors would be offended. I just wondered if we'd yet again be unfairly labeled as over-reactive. But it looks as though lots and lots of other people are extremely upset too, which is wonderful.

It just struck me yesterday that one of the factors that so many conservative hyper-patriots are willing to go along with the loss of privacy is a sort of Stockholm syndrome--then I came here and read it To me, it's all a part of Lakoff's 'strict father frames' obedience mindset: If an authority figure tells me to do something, I must rush to obey AND defend to the death their indefensible behaviors, too. Ugh.

If I could afford a cross-country train ticket right now, I'd take a loss on the (fabulously expensive) plane ticket home and go home by train. But once I'm back in CA, it's no more flying for me until these 4th amendment rights violations have been ended. I can't imagine anyone who has a choice choosing to fly right now, to be honest. The only way I'll be able to go through that security checkpoint in Ft. Lauderdale in a few days is with a large dose of an anti-anxiety drug and even with that I'm worried about a protective alter getting out and slugging the TSA agent Not looking forward to being arrested/locked-up

LilyPat

[Avalon]

Wishing you and yours a smooth and easy flight, LilyPat, with equanimity and respect abounding.

[seemslikeadream]

[Nordic]

The flying public has won a small victory in the fight over airport pat downs and more intrusive searches with the Transportation Security Agency: For now, the agency isn't planning to take the next step toward body cavity searches. "We're not going to get in the business of body cavities, that's not where we are," says TSA Administrator John Pistole.

Continuing a P.R. offensive today, he told reporters that there are ways to detect explosives in a body cavity other than a strip search. "Even if it is a body cavity [bomb], you still have to have an initiator, you have to have some external device to cause that initiation," he said. "There's got to be something external that you can then initiate the device and that's what the advance imaging technology machine will pick up: Any anomaly outside of the body."

Yeah, right, an anomaly like a cell phone.

Seems like it would be pretty easy to design a suppository bomb that could be initiated by a cell phone call.

These people are idiots.

[tazmic]

Seems like it would be pretty easy to design a suppository bomb that could be initiated by a cell phone call.

These people are idiots.

Haven't these people used an alarm clock before? It's a cover story, they can't be that stupid, at least not their employers, tasked with our security.

Besides, if someone's happy to kill themselves I don't think they'd mind a surgically implanted device. (Hmmm, you could have it hooked up to your pacemaker, triggering upon failure...)

Perhaps the resolve chord for this ensemble will be an agreement that the only really effective and respectful way to do this is with full profiling after all.

[tazmic]

Or perhaps not.

"The next step in tightened security could be on U.S. public transportation, trains and boats."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/130549-next-step-for-body-scanners-could-be-trains-boats-and-the-metro-

“We don’t know much,” she said. “If you were to try and devise a template about what connects this terrorist to this terrorist and how they were raised and what schools they went to and their socioeconomic status, or this or that, it’s all over the map.

“I think there’s some important work that’s being done on that but … the Secretary of Homeland Security cannot wait for that.”

[seemslikeadream]

[AlicetheKurious]

[psynapz]

Continuing a P.R. offensive today, he told reporters that there are ways to detect explosives in a body cavity other than a strip search. "Even if it is a body cavity [bomb], you still have to have an initiator, you have to have some external device to cause that initiation," he said. "There's got to be something external that you can then initiate the device and that's what the advance imaging technology machine will pick up: Any anomaly outside of the body."

Christ on a bike.

WTF?! These'd easily fit up your ass in a little device, or behind a bandaged incision, even:


There's also just altimeter chips. A pin goes high when it hits the threshold dialed in by a trimmer pot, and that pin sends some electrons down to... something... and down they all come a-raining like a bloody ticker tape parade. No cinematic button-pushing or plunging or farting with your finger in your left ear OR requesting a window seat for a better cellphone signal at just the right time. It just works.

Fucking retards.