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Lobster's Ramsay on Paedophile Panics

Postby elfismiles » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:22 pm

From FT270 / February 2011, page 25

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EDIT: image above says January 2011 but my physical copy says February. American print edition is likely month "behind" UK edition?


K KONSPIRACY KORNER
PONDERS THE SPREAD OF CHILD ABUSE ALLEGATIONS IN
THE INTERNET AGE - HAVE WE BEEN HERE BEFORE?


In September 2010, six men, including Portugal's best known TV personality, Carlos Cruz, and Jorge Ritto, a former Portuguese ambassador, were convicted of sexual offences against children in state-run orphanages in Portugal. Rumours spoke of a thick slice of Portugal's political and media class being part of a vast paedophile ring centred on the orphanage.

The only one of the accused to plead guilty, Carlos Silvino, a former employee at the home, is quoted as saying: "I took some boys to these homes. I have dates and addresses where they went to make movies, attend parties or sex orgies."

The English-language reporting on the affair assumed that all of this was entirely true. But I wonder. We have been here before.

The earliest version of this in my lifetime was the Kincora boys' home affair in Northern Ireland in the 1970s. Then, three gay men working there had abused the boys in their care for almost 20 years. They had survived complaints from the boys, parents and other care workers, because one of them, the late William McGrath, was not only a senior figure in the Orange Order and a friend of the Reverend Ian Paisley, but also an informant for MI5. Rumours spread of boys being taken to big country houses to be used by public figures, including Lord Mountbatten, the former head of MI6, Maurice Oldfield, and Edward Heath. These rumours are still circulating on the Internet.'

In the 1990s, we had the North Wales paedophile panic, again centred on a children's home, Bryn Estyn. The initial North Wales allegations mushroomed into a nationwide police trawling operation, offering compensation for victims of abuse in local authority care, and over 100 men were ultimately convicted. But in his wonderful analysis of the case, The Secret of Bryn Estyn (reviewed FT208:62–63), Richard Webster showed that most of the convictions were probably unsound and the result of a modern-day witch-hunt.

Currently, we have the Hollie Greig affair (referred to in this column, FT262:21), in which a Downs Syndrome woman in Scotland has apparently alleged that she was abused from the age of six by a circle of people, including her father and her uncle, a lawyer, her social worker, a policemen and a local sheriff. Once the story reached the Internet, the list of abusers began expanding – as did the list of the abused. The Scottish legal authorities' decision not to prosecute anyone – there was no useable evidence – turned the story into a Scottish-establishment-paedophile-network cover-up. The leading 'investigator', self-styled journalist and broadcaster Robert Green, was arrested in Aberdeen as he was about to distribute leaflets about the case. He then stood in Aberdeen South in the 2010 General Election as 'Scotland Against Crooked Lawyers' (but only got 138 votes).

A public campaign began: meetings are being held across Britain. The BBC was apparently (that word again) going to broadcast the story but backed off (another cover-up!). A great national scandal has been uncovered and an evil or Masonic or paedophile establishment is getting away with it! Despite the lack of evidence, the story is growing and spreading. Everybody from David Icke downwards (or upwards) is joining in – just type "Hollie Greig" into YouTube and see how many hundreds of videos you get.

In the 1970s and 80s, the cry was for 'alternative media'. I began publishing an 'alternative magazine' in 1983. The Net and YouTube mean that anyone, saying almost anything, can broadcast globally, with no initial editorial interference. So why does this type of evidence-free rumour-mongering make me so nervous?

NOTES
1 See for example http://tinyurl.com/34hig3f (indymedia.org.uk).



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Re: Lobster's Ramsay on Paedophile Panics

Postby elfismiles » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:39 pm

Guilty, Portugal's high-society paedophile ring
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=29379

Elite paedophile ring convictions (Portugal)
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=29370

Captive market : The sexual slave traffic in children
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=28971

“Loch Ness Monster” – the Scottish paedophile nexus
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27562&hilit=hollie+greig

Revealed : Prime Minister Gordon Brown a paedo...
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27493

Madeleine McCann and Dutroux **WARNING: POSSIBLE TRIGGERS**
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27370

Campaigner for abuse victim charged with breach of peace
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27204
Coincidence Theorist's Guide to Ritual Abuse / Mind Control
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=23889&hilit=kincora

abuse in Scotland links to Portugal
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26634

Let's buy a bridge = A theory of RA in the United States
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=23839&hilit=kincora

Florida men seek probe of unmarked graves at boys school
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=21846

Jersey Case; Lenny Harper ex RUC ??!... Uh Oh...
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=16966

Jersey investigation into child abuse
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16343

Macabre murder of 10-year-old will be re-opened (Ireland)
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15900

Daily Mail story today re Portugal's elite paedophile ring
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13972

Madeleine Incorporated
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12866

Mexico is haven for U.S. pedophile priests
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=8912&hilit=kincora

James blunt popstar/James Hillier-Blount uk military elite?
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6963&hilit=kincora

Trafficking of children in Ireland
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18047
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Re: Lobster's Ramsay on Paedophile Panics

Postby fruhmenschen » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:51 pm

elfismiles wrote:Guilty, Portugal's high-society paedophile ring
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=29379

Elite paedophile ring convictions (Portugal)
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=29370

Captive market : The sexual slave traffic in children
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=28971

“Loch Ness Monster” – the Scottish paedophile nexus
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27562&hilit=hollie+greig

Revealed : Prime Minister Gordon Brown a paedo...
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27493

Madeleine McCann and Dutroux **WARNING: POSSIBLE TRIGGERS**
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27370

Campaigner for abuse victim charged with breach of peace
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=27204
Coincidence Theorist's Guide to Ritual Abuse / Mind Control
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=23889&hilit=kincora

abuse in Scotland links to Portugal
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26634

Let's buy a bridge = A theory of RA in the United States
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=23839&hilit=kincora

Florida men seek probe of unmarked graves at boys school
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=21846

Jersey Case; Lenny Harper ex RUC ??!... Uh Oh...
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=16966

Jersey investigation into child abuse
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16343

Macabre murder of 10-year-old will be re-opened (Ireland)
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=15900

Daily Mail story today re Portugal's elite paedophile ring
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13972

Madeleine Incorporated
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=12866

Mexico is haven for U.S. pedophile priests
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=8912&hilit=kincora

James blunt popstar/James Hillier-Blount uk military elite?
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=6963&hilit=kincora

Trafficking of children in Ireland
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=18047



children were being fed to pedophiles from BoysTown USA see THE FRANKLIN COVERUP

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Re: Lobster's Ramsay on Paedophile Panics

Postby elfismiles » Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:40 pm

Hi Fruh,

Yes, the Franklin Horrors are another complicated example. I didn't include links to RI threads on that knotted case-study as there is a whole separate sub-forum here for that case:

The Franklin Scandal
viewforum.php?f=46

It is such a complex case there are over 50 threads just in that sub-forum.

fruhmenschen wrote:

children were being fed to pedophiles from BoysTown USA see THE FRANKLIN COVERUP

also see

http://www.andrewvachss.com
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Postby justdrew » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:06 pm

that same issue has a two page update on the Bogus Social Worker (BSW) phenomenon.
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Re: Lobster's Ramsay on Paedophile Panics

Postby elfismiles » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:22 pm

Thank you (and Kudos for Yudos) for reminding me. It's incredibly short and mostly referential to past FT issues with (presumably) fuller / in-depth articles. I might be able to scan and post that as well - though I encourage all Forteans and Anomalists to support it with a subscription if you can - some guy just a mile away from my house (named Mike Lewis or something similar to my name) got my entire last year's subscription. I hope he became a paid subscriber when this mistake was discovered and my subscription was properly redirected.

justdrew wrote:that same issue has a two page update on the Bogus Social Worker (BSW) phenomenon.


Phantom social workers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_social_workers


BLATHER: Prophecies Fulfilled
Posted by damien
June 19, 1998

...

Attempted abduction in Co. Wicklow

Or so read the headline in *UPDATE* (email news service from RTE Online ) on June 11th.

Unfortunately for the pro alien-abductionists who walk among us, this near-miss abduction was not quite so fantastic as to include greys, saucers and anal probes, but instead involved a sinister Bogus Social Worker (BSW).

A woman described as being her late 20s, 5'7" (1.7m) in height, blonde, wearing a brown skirt suit, a white polo neck and carrying a briefcase called to a house near Blessington, Co. Wicklow, Ireland, claiming that she was a Public Health Nurse who had to take a baby boy away for vaccinations. She knew the boy's name and date of birth, but when the mother requested identification, the BSW upped sticks and left. The Eastern Health Board has issued warnings following he incident, advising people to be vigilant.

This kind of carry-on is not unknown -- and perhaps not linked to child abuse. The BSWs are generally well-spoken, well dressed and well informed, especially of many personal details about their potential victims. Females BSWs seem to be the most common, but couples and the odd male are not unknown.

According to Bob Rickard in Fortean Times 77:36, British police feel that the cases are mixture of legitimate callers, e.g. Mormons or even *real* council workers, self appointed child abuse vigilantes, private detectives or relatives involved in child-custody cases or marital disputes, burglars reconnoitring prospective victims, while a select few are thought to be connected to alleged *networks* of paedophiles, who somehow get 'off' on the thrill of the chase. As Rickard says, 'this is pure conjecture'.

As Rickard points out in FT66:48, 'like the enigmatic Men-in-Black (MIB) of UFO fame, the BSWs are sometimes quite ignorant about those they have come to see; yet, at other times, they seem to know intimate details.'

As women are *generally* speaking (with, of course, exceptions) not involved in paedophilia, the BSWs apparently hidden agenda lends itself to a creation of hysteria, not unlike the speculation prevalent in MIB lore. One agenda doesn't seem to have been pondered upon however -- could some of these cases be matters of attempted kidnapping by distraught women, who have perhaps lost a child or cannot have one? This cause has been linked to infant-snatches from incubators in maternity hospitals. . .

Fortean Times has kept an eye on waves of BSW appearances, with articles in the following issues:

FT57:43-5 The Case of the Phantom Social Workers - Mike Dash
FT61:36 Social Panics - Bob Rickard
FT66:48-9 The Spectral Inspectorate - Bob Rickard
FT77:36-8 Fear on the Doorstep - Bob Rickard
FT87:18 It's All Right Missus, We're From the Social - Joe McNally
FT98:14-15 Return of the Bogus Social Workers

The last one, FT98, includes several Irish cases from 1996, one in Limerick where a four year old was examined by a BSW in late November, December 11th, when a man and woman tried to snatch a 17 month old girl from her mother in Berrings, Co. Cork, while two days later --just a few miles away, two unspecified BSWs were sent packing by a baby minder in Blarney when they didn't produce identification. (Irish Times Dec 17th 1996)

(Thanks to Mike Dash, Paul Sieveking, Bill Jacobs and Andy Cobley for helping me track down the FT articles)

...

Dave (daev) Walsh
June 19th 1998

http://www.blather.net/blather/1998/06/ ... illed.html





Straight From the Horse's Mane
Horses across the country have been found with plaits in their manes. Everyone from horse thieves to Pagan witches has been blamed, but might the real culprits be familiar figures from fairy lore?
By Patrick Harpur

March 2010

...

As with ‘panics’ down the ages, all the usual suspects are present and correct: people who are ordinary, but hoaxers or ‘thieves’; people who are outsiders, such as gypsies; people who are extraordinary, such as witches or ‘Satanists’. The next step is supernatural – I expect to hear of funny lights hovering over fields where plaiting has taken place. There was also an intriguing paragraph in the Marshwood Vale citing a report from “a member of the public in Somerset” who described “some well-dressed Irish men in a silver people carrier… visiting properties to sell various things or offer services… They are well-known horse thieves targeting horse owners, stealing their trailers and using them to steal horses.” Is it me, or do such ‘Irish men’ begin to sound a bit like the Men in Black of UFO lore, with their shiny limousines? Or, better perhaps, the old Bogus Social Workers – vaguely menacing strangers who turn up in the vicinity of nefarious goings-on, but who are unfailingly ineffective.

http://www.forteantimes.com/features/ar ... _mane.html

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Postby semper occultus » Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:41 pm

hmmm..thanks for those posts Elfi

Ramsay's dismissive approach is quite interesting & very reminiscent of Private Eye's very overt debunking towards SRA issues

he doesn't mention Dutroux does he - I guess the mass marches on the streets of Brussels were all just people brainwashed by internet rumours :shrug:
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Postby elfismiles » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:09 pm

semper occultus wrote:hmmm..thanks for those posts Elfi

Ramsay's dismissive approach is quite interesting & very reminiscent of Private Eye's very overt debunking towards SRA issues

he doesn't mention Dutroux does he - I guess the mass marches on the streets of Brussels were all just people brainwashed by internet rumours :shrug:


Hi SO. Yeah, the FT crowd tend to be highly skeptical of conspiracy stuff and much more prone to the "social panic" / "social contagion" approach to "strange beliefs".

But that is actually one of the things that initially attracted me to Jeff's writings and the forum; the fact that folks here were/are creating a community for those claiming to have survived such atrocities plus a lot of critical thinking on the details of cases and an open-mindedness about the possibility that social panics at least play some role in the surrounding social reaction to claims of ritual abuse. Like with the Franklin case, I think most folk here believe there is good evidence for a core of abuse which was likely part of some political blackmail schemes, but once various investigators and instigators got involved the waters were muddied. Or with the hundreds of convictions in the 1980s of adults accussed of these crimes - most of which have since been overturned causing many to believe there were no core crimes and that it was all simply social panic / contagion, when it is just as likely there were core crimes around which, perhaps, a lot of bad cases / false claims were built.

For instance the FSMF rose to prominance as part of the reversal of those cases and helped create the idea of it all being a social panic - and yet most here would agree that the FSMF itself (the idea of False Memory Syndrome and FSMF's board members) is no where near above suspicion.
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Re: Lobster's Ramsay on Paedophile Panics

Postby elfismiles » Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:23 pm

Here is that latest BSW (Bogus Social Worker) article / update from issue 270 of Fortean Times:

LINKS TO SCANS:

Page 10 / Page 11


BOGUS SOCIAL WORKERS
Parents Upset By Nosey 'Officials'

WANTED
This Page And Facing:
Examples of police artists' rendering of the phantom officials' appearance.

Last summer, Charlotte Osborne, 25, had an unnerving encounter at her home in Haslemere Road, Southsea, Hampshire. "My son [Riley, aged two] was having a tantrum and refusing to go to bed," she said. It was 7.10pm on 30 August. "I heard a really loud knock on the door. I opened it and there was a man there who said he was from social services and there was something wrong with my son because he was crying. He said if he showed me ID would I let him in so he could check on the baby. Then I saw a woman looking at me. I tried to argue and eventually told him he had to leave. I was frightened the police were going to come round and take my son away. I was crying my eyes out. I called the police and an officer came round within an hour. He said he believed that they were opportunist burglars who may have been watching me. I was so shaken up I didn't go out for two days. I just want to warn other people."

The BSW (bogus social worker) was in his late 40s or 50s, and 5ft l0in (1.78m) tall. He had short grey hair and wore dark trousers and a striped white shirt. The woman was well built, about 5ft 4in (1.63m), with short brown hair and wearing a bright pink top. The News (Portsmouth), 10 Sept 2010.

The motive for such a visit is unlikely to be anything as straightforward as opportunist burglary. It's over a decade since Fortean Times did a round-up of `phantom' or bogus social workers attempting to examine or abduct children. The first reports of BSWs, as far as FT is aware, were in January 1990, culminating in a national BSW panic the following spring, when 23 separate police forces took part in "Operation Childcare". Countess thousands of man-hours were expended as the authorities tried to track down the perpetrators, resulting in a grand total of no arrests. Eventually, the police concluded they were dealing with a social panic, and admitted they were treating only 18 of more than 250 reported incidents as "significant" [FT57:43-45].

The panic flared up repeatedly in the subsequent six years [FT61:36, 66:48-49, 77:36-38, 87:18, 98:14-15], after which reports appeared to dwindle, judging by the clippings received at Fortean Towers. Such incidents are of interest to forteans because of the often odd behaviour of the BSWs and the fact that they are never apprehended, leading to scepticism about their very existence. Some anomalists have even seen parallels with the sinister MIBs (Men In Black) who warn off UFO witnesses.

To give a flavour of how eerie a BSW encounter can be, here is one from seven years ago. Erica Grange, 28, lived in Berwick Hill, Northumberland, with her partner Mark Barnes, and their three children, Emily (eight), Holly (five) and Jack (one). One day in September 2003, she was at home looking after her baby son when there was a knock at the door. "There was a very smartly dressed tall man and plumpish woman," said Ms Grange. "They said they'd come from the social services department and I started to shake, wondering what they wanted. They said they'd had a report I'd been abusing my children and needed to come in and look around. I said no because my partner wasn't in and I asked them to show me their ID. Their cards said Social Services Department and had no name or signatures and I was a bit wary. They knew that I had a little boy with me and asked, my two daughters are at school, aren't they? I don't know how they knew that, it was spooky, like they'd been watching. I said if they wanted to come in they needed to have a warrant and to come with the police."

The man was in his late 30s, about 6ft (1.8m) tall with short dark hair, wearing a dark grey suit. The woman was in her 40s, about 5ft (1.5m) tall, with mousy hair in a clip, and wearing a dark navy skirt suit. After the couple left, Ms Grange phoned social services and was told the department had no record of the family. "I've phoned the kids' school and explained if anyone does try to take my children out of school don't let them," she said. Middlesbrough Eve. Gazette, 10 Sept 2003.

BSW visits occur all over the UK and Ireland, and Fortean Times has received the occasional report of some in other countries, for instance in Miami, Florida, in 2002 and Halifax, Nova Scotia, in 2003. According to the news reports received, they have occurred in the following UK and Irish locations in the last decade:

2000: Ellesmere Port, Cheshire (Jan); Kirton-in-Lindsey, Humberside (Feb); Lincoln (Mar); Stockport, Gtr Manchester (April); Chelmsford, Essex (April); Bradford (May); Beccles, Suffolk (June); Kenningford, Oxfordshire (Oct). 2001: Nottingham (Feb); Ripley, Derbyshire (Mar); Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire (Mar); Great Finborough, Suffolk (April); Inverness (Oct). 2002: Standish, Lincolnshire (Jan); Caerphilly, South Wales (Feb); Berinsfield, Oxfordshire (Oct). 2003: Askeaton, Co. Limerick (June); Leeds (Nov). 2005: Melton Constable, Norfolk (Feb); Stockton, Boosbeck, Grangetown and Hemlington, Teeside, (Feb). 2006: Tidworth, Wiltshire (Jan); Wellington, Shropshire (May); Wick, Highland (May); Cookstown, Co. Tyrone (Aug). 2008: Lydney, Forest of Dean (Jan).

Sources: ITV teletext, 5 Jan; Scunthorpe Eve. Telegraph, 1 Feb; Lincolnshire Echo, 4 Mar; Stockport Express, 26 April, 3 May; Yorkshire Post, 17 May; Eastern Daily Press, 12 June; Oxford Mail, 28 Oct 2000. Sun, 5 Mar; Stoke Sentinel, 15 Mar; Bury Free Press, 6 April; Sunday Mail (Scotland), 21 Oct 2001. Shevington (Lanes) Courier, 1 Feb; Western Mail, 15 Feb; Ananova, 9 Oct; Guardian, D.Mirror, 10 Oct 2002. Irish Times, 13 June; Yorkshire Eve. Post, 22 Nov 2003. Eastern Daily Press, 16 Feb; Middlesbrough Eve. Gazette, 1 Mar, 6+8 Sept 2005. Western Daily Press, 11 Feb; Sun, 12 May; Caithness Courier, 31 May; Independent on Sunday, 6 Aug 2006. Western Daily Press, 26 Jan 2008.

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