Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

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Postby AlicetheKurious » Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:14 pm

It's hard to describe how traumatic this event has been, for all Egyptians. The outpouring of grief and anger has been overwhelming. Inconceivably massive demonstrations of Copts and Muslims are ongoing as I speak, uninterrupted since yesterday, in Cairo and Alexandria, including at the Cathedral, where my husband went this morning, only to find a chaotic mix of demonstrators, media and state security that made it nearly impossible to get inside. There's been intense, constant coverage in all the local and Arab media.

One thing you probably won't get in the Western coverage (kudos to barracuda for finding the excellent Egyptian blogger, Zeinobia): I have never, in all my life, witnessed anything like the feeling of national unity and solidarity between all Egyptians, of all ages and persuasions, that is sweeping Egypt at the moment. In all the demonstrations, people are yelling, "Long live the Crescent and the Cross!" The Crescent-and-Cross are everywhere, the old nationalist symbol imbued with new life.

I was afraid that Copts would be too frightened of a repeat attack to attend the upcoming Christmas Eve service on January 6, but now it seems that not only the Copts, but a large number of Muslim Egyptians will be filling the churches that night. In addition, Muslim young people from all over Egypt are organizing themselves to stand guard around Egypt's main churches next Thursday, under slogans like, "While some Egyptians pray inside, other Egyptians will stand outside to protect them," and "We will live together or die together."

It's remarkable, as though this horrible, senseless, truly sadistic atrocity was so painful that it finally woke Egyptians up. There has been unprecedented self-flagellation by Egyptian Muslim writers in the independent (non-state) media, like in that essay by Hani Shukrallah that barracuda posted. A lot, not just in newspapers but also on live television. So much that at times I feared that it would backfire by making some Copts feel even more victimized than they already do. I am hopeful, though, that, on the contrary, the barriers that have been slowly been rising between Copts and Muslims in Egypt are being torn down again.

Meanwhile, the government is bearing the brunt of the greatest anger, across the board. Many Copts blame the regime for nurturing disunity between Copts and Muslims via unfair laws and by trying to bolster its non-existent legitimacy with a veneer of fake religiosity that made many Copts feel uniquely disenfranchised, while in reality it is all Egyptians, Copt and Muslim, who are disenfranchised under this incredibly corrupt, incompetent dictatorship. In the run-up to the sickening farce of the recent parliamentary "elections" and afterward, the government had been brutally cracking down on freedom of expression, silencing critics and threatening independent media with closure. This attack has opened the floodgates, and the Egyptian opposition has come out of its corner in a fighting mood, and calls for democratic reform are drowning out even the calls for catching the criminals responsible. Even if, as most Egyptians believe, those responsible are external enemies, the fact remains that there are serious weaknesses within Egypt's body politic that may have given its enemies the idea that Egypt is ripe for the picking. If so, I think they've made a big mistake.

Speaking of fighting moods, during the mass funeral of the victims this afternoon, there were thousands of mourners in the enormous church of Mare Mina near Alexandria, and a row of high-level government officials, including the governor of Alexandria, sitting in a front pew. When, as is customary, the officiating priest thanked the government for their condolences, the mourners began shouting abuse and there were even some attempts to attack them. The officials seemed uncharacteristically cowed and ashamed, and kept their eyes down. The priests were forced to surround them and protect them with their own bodies, until their security guards were able to reach them and get them safely out.

In fact, the regime itself seems shaken and uncertain and somewhat defensive; the momentum and the energy are, right now for the first time that I recall, almost entirely in the hands of ordinary people and the opposition.

People are still very emotional, but I hope and pray that even after everybody's calmed down, we won't go back to business as usual. I know it's not comparable, but I keep flashing back to 9/11 and the spirit of national solidarity and love that briefly flourished in the immediate aftermath, before it all turned ugly. In the US, it wasn't given a chance to take root and bear fruit. Right now, this terrible crime has opened two windows, showing us two possible futures: one much worse and one much better than we Egyptians could have envisioned even 48 hours ago. Egyptians now seem to understand that it is up to them which one is opened wider, and which one is nailed shut.
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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

Postby Nordic » Mon Jan 03, 2011 3:35 am

Thanks for that account, Alice.
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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:04 am

I know it's not comparable, but I keep flashing back to 9/11 and the spirit of national solidarity and love that briefly flourished in the immediate aftermath, before it all turned ugly.


Thats actually what I thought when I read your account (before I got to that bit above obviously.)
One thing you probably won't get in the Western coverage (kudos to barracuda for finding the excellent Egyptian blogger, Zeinobia): I have never, in all my life, witnessed anything like the feeling of national unity and solidarity between all Egyptians, of all ages and persuasions, that is sweeping Egypt at the moment. In all the demonstrations, people are yelling, "Long live the Crescent and the Cross!" The Crescent-and-Cross are everywhere, the old nationalist symbol imbued with new life.


That is great news. Thanks for that info. I'm arguing with a wanker from QLD at the moment who thinks something very different is happening in Egypt.
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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

Postby lupercal » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:10 pm

AlicetheKurious wrote:It's hard to describe how traumatic this event has been, for all Egyptians. The outpouring of grief and anger has been overwhelming. Inconceivably massive demonstrations of Copts and Muslims are ongoing as I speak, uninterrupted since yesterday, in Cairo and Alexandria, including at the Cathedral, where my husband went this morning, only to find a chaotic mix of demonstrators, media and state security that made it nearly impossible to get inside. There's been intense, constant coverage in all the local and Arab media.

One thing you probably won't get in the Western coverage (kudos to barracuda for finding the excellent Egyptian blogger, Zeinobia): I have never, in all my life, witnessed anything like the feeling of national unity and solidarity between all Egyptians, of all ages and persuasions, that is sweeping Egypt at the moment. In all the demonstrations, people are yelling, "Long live the Crescent and the Cross!" The Crescent-and-Cross are everywhere, the old nationalist symbol imbued with new life.

I was afraid that Copts would be too frightened of a repeat attack to attend the upcoming Christmas Eve service on January 6, but now it seems that not only the Copts, but a large number of Muslim Egyptians will be filling the churches that night. In addition, Muslim young people from all over Egypt are organizing themselves to stand guard around Egypt's main churches next Thursday, under slogans like, "While some Egyptians pray inside, other Egyptians will stand outside to protect them," and "We will live together or die together."

It's remarkable, as though this horrible, senseless, truly sadistic atrocity was so painful that it finally woke Egyptians up. There has been unprecedented self-flagellation by Egyptian Muslim writers in the independent (non-state) media, like in that essay by Hani Shukrallah that barracuda posted. A lot, not just in newspapers but also on live television. So much that at times I feared that it would backfire by making some Copts feel even more victimized than they already do. I am hopeful, though, that, on the contrary, the barriers that have been slowly been rising between Copts and Muslims in Egypt are being torn down again.

Meanwhile, the government is bearing the brunt of the greatest anger, across the board. Many Copts blame the regime for nurturing disunity between Copts and Muslims via unfair laws and by trying to bolster its non-existent legitimacy with a veneer of fake religiosity that made many Copts feel uniquely disenfranchised, while in reality it is all Egyptians, Copt and Muslim, who are disenfranchised under this incredibly corrupt, incompetent dictatorship. In the run-up to the sickening farce of the recent parliamentary "elections" and afterward, the government had been brutally cracking down on freedom of expression, silencing critics and threatening independent media with closure. This attack has opened the floodgates, and the Egyptian opposition has come out of its corner in a fighting mood, and calls for democratic reform are drowning out even the calls for catching the criminals responsible. Even if, as most Egyptians believe, those responsible are external enemies, the fact remains that there are serious weaknesses within Egypt's body politic that may have given its enemies the idea that Egypt is ripe for the picking. If so, I think they've made a big mistake.

Speaking of fighting moods, during the mass funeral of the victims this afternoon, there were thousands of mourners in the enormous church of Mare Mina near Alexandria, and a row of high-level government officials, including the governor of Alexandria, sitting in a front pew. When, as is customary, the officiating priest thanked the government for their condolences, the mourners began shouting abuse and there were even some attempts to attack them. The officials seemed uncharacteristically cowed and ashamed, and kept their eyes down. The priests were forced to surround them and protect them with their own bodies, until their security guards were able to reach them and get them safely out.

In fact, the regime itself seems shaken and uncertain and somewhat defensive; the momentum and the energy are, right now for the first time that I recall, almost entirely in the hands of ordinary people and the opposition.

People are still very emotional, but I hope and pray that even after everybody's calmed down, we won't go back to business as usual. I know it's not comparable, but I keep flashing back to 9/11 and the spirit of national solidarity and love that briefly flourished in the immediate aftermath, before it all turned ugly. In the US, it wasn't given a chance to take root and bear fruit. Right now, this terrible crime has opened two windows, showing us two possible futures: one much worse and one much better than we Egyptians could have envisioned even 48 hours ago. Egyptians now seem to understand that it is up to them which one is opened wider, and which one is nailed shut.

Alice thanks for taking the time to write that fantastic report. I wanted to reply sooner but lost power here for an interminable stretch thanks to palm fronds in the power lines, hmm, well that's Cali for you, but I heartily agree with Joe in that your last paragraph is particularly inspiring and could describe the whole world at this strange moment. I hope with you that this will be the year we all wake up but it's great to hear that many Egyptians are figuring out what's going on and what a sick game is being played. And please try to have a great Christmas anyway, I didn't realize you hadn't celebrated it yet!
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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

Postby Sounder » Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:24 pm

I know nothing about this source.

http://www.aina.org/news/20110101232613.htm

There was no immediate claim of responsibility but officials hastily blamed either Al-Qaida or the Israeli Mousad of being behind the blast, but none of them mentioned the Egyptian state security which is viewed by Copts as the real culprit…..

Hmmm, now who is it that sounds more believable?

…..Eyewitnesses confirmed that security forces guarding the church withdrew nearly one hour before the blast, leaving only four policemen and an officer to guard such a big church and nearly 2000 people attending the midnight mass. "Normally they would have waited until the mass was over," said el-Gezeiry.....

On January 6 2010, just before the Christmas Eve Massacre in Nag Hammadi, security withdrew its forces from guarding the church a couple of hours before the shooting of the Coptic congregation took place.

Attorney Mamdouh Nakhla, Head of Al-Kalema Human Rights Center, wondered if state security is an accomplice or just too cowardly to confront the Islamists in Egypt who carried out the Church massacre. "The crime is local and those who committed it are known, in addition there was a demonstration on the same day using the same rhetoric like al-Qaida. The Al Mujahedeen website threatens to repeat the attack in more churches. The site has addresses of churches and even how to make a bomb. Does security not know about it?"

"Anyone who says that it was a foreign or Israeli plot is trying to play down the crime and is trying to clear those murderers of this massacre, and I consider them their accomplices," said Nakhla.

Nakhla said that he was preparing a complaint to be presented to President Mubarak asking for the resignation of Interior Minister Habib el Adly for failing in his duty of protecting the Copts, and for not telling the truth by saying that it was a suicide attack by one individual, when everyone could see the detonated car, just to clear his security personnel of the responsibility of letting the Skoda park in front of the church. "This 100KG bomb could not have been transported by one individual as the Interior Minister wants us to believe."


Sounds like we the people do not get a very good return on our 'security dollar'.
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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

Postby kool maudit » Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:32 pm

AlicetheKurious wrote:It's hard to describe how traumatic this event has been, for all Egyptians (etc.)


wow. that is quite something. it is an ill wind indeed etc.

good to hear.
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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

Postby AlicetheKurious » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:26 am

Something very strange is happening. Over the past few days, people all over Egypt have been receiving SMS messages informing them that mosques and major supermarkets have been bombed, that the mosque next to the Alexandria Two Saints' Church has been set on fire, that other churches have been attacked, etc. I've received several SMS' myself, from friends who were forwarding messages that they'd received.

Meanwhile, US-based "Coptic" organizations (many of whom have been linked with right-wing zionist groups) have claimed that the car used in the attack, a green Skoda, had fundamentalist Islamic bumper stickers, including an ominous warning, "the rest is coming".

These same US-based "Coptic" organization have claimed, and Western news reports have repeated, that Copts emerging from the church saw Muslims celebrating and "dancing in the blood" and attacked the mosque and that there were violent clashes between Copts and Muslims immediately after the attack. As evidence, they show a brief clip of voices yelling for people to get away from the blast site and others yelling "Allahu Akbar", which they portray as joyful. There are no videos of anybody dancing, in blood or otherwise.

All of these have turned out to be completely untrue. There have been no other attacks of any kind (thank God!). Videos of the attacks showed panic on both sides of the street after the powerful explosion that also wounded 8 Muslims standing or walking near the mosque, and which damaged the mosque itself and splattered its walls with blood.

The owner of the green Skoda turned out to be a Christian parishioner whom police say had nothing to do with the attack.

According to all the local reports and eyewitnesses, including the Al-Jazeera correspondent on the scene, the only clashes occurred when Coptic youths were trying to get to the church where the blast occurred, but were prevented by state security forces, who used tear gas and rubber bullets to keep them away from the crime scene, and who were pelted with stones.

In the large demonstrations in Cairo, which included both Muslims and Christians marching in solidarity, beginning the day before yesterday, suddenly small groups of demonstrators began yelling extremely inflammatory anti-Muslim slogans. When the Sheikh Al-Azhar went to pay his condolences to the Coptic Pope, he was viciously insulted by a group of unknown supposed Copts swarming around the Cathedral who seemed well-organized and continuously yelled anti-Islamic slogans throughout his visit and threatened to drown out even his press conference afterward. And yet the Sheikh Al-Azhar is known for his strong solidarity with the Coptic community, and for advocating that all their political and religious demands be met.

The Egyptian Pope Shenouda II did a long interview the day before yesterday, in which he warned Copts to beware of outside agents provocateurs infiltrating the demonstrations under the guise of solidarity, but whose purpose is to inflame sectarian strife, and who are working on behalf of a hostile agenda.

There is still no solid information about who was responsible for the attack. A mysterious website claiming to represent "Al Qaeda in Iraq" had issued specific threats against Egyptian churches two weeks before the attack. It has since been taken down. The police have identified all the remains except for the head and legs of a mysterious male "with Asian features". (I hope that they are able to determine whether the unidentified man was dead prior to the attack, or drugged, in order to provide a convenient patsy).

Whether the rather obvious efforts to incite sectarian conflict and create widespread panic are merely opportunistic, or part of a premeditated campaign that includes the attack itself, it's hard to know for sure. It's true that most people, including the Egyptian opposition parties, blame the government for its failure to respond to Coptic demands for equality under the law, and for failing to protect the churches despite the explicit threats from "Al Qaeda in Iraq".

The regime big-shots have been remarkable for their absence. President Hosni Mubarak made a very brief speech on New Year's Day, but other than similarly brief statements, the normally ubiquitous Cabinet ministers and ruling party officials have been keeping low. Instead, opposition leaders, independent political analysts and the Coptic Pope and the Sheikh Al-Azhar (spiritual leaders of the Copts and Muslims respectively) have been in the forefront.

All, without exception, have directly or indirectly accused the Mossad, "al-Qaeda" or both, if in fact they are two separate entities, of being behind this attack. The Egyptian Bar Association held a large demonstration and issued a statement directly linking it to the recent exposure of a Mossad spy network in Egypt, after which the Israeli Ambassador to Egypt, Yitzhak Levanon, and his wife, suddenly left the country without warning or explanation. More importantly, they and many others, including former Egyptian Foreign Minister Abdullah Ashal have described this bombing as punishment and a warning after Egypt handed over to Syria evidence about a very high-level Mossad spy, Saleh al-Nijm, embedded in Syrian Intelligence.

Therefore, from the Israeli point of view, the bombing serves two purposes, one short-term and one long-term. The first, as I described above, is to send a clear message to the Egyptian regime that self-congratulatory captures of Israeli spies, and even worse, exposing Mossad spies to Israel's "enemies" will not be tolerated. The second is to further the longstanding Israeli strategy, most explicitly outlined in Oded Yinon's infamous article "A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s" published by the World Zionist Organization in early 1983, in which dividing the Arab countries into weak and mutually hostile ethnic and sectarian mini-states is described as essential to Israel's survival. Since then, the Arab world has witnessed an unprecedented wave of sectarian and ethnic strife within Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Yemen, in each case promoted by direct or indirect US/Israeli intervention.

Luckily for Egypt, we have two truly outstanding spiritual leaders, the Coptic Pope Shenouda II and the Egypt's highest Islamic authority, the Sheikh of al-Azhar, Ahmed al-Tayeb, both of whom are widely respected by both Muslims and Christians for their wisdom and their deep commitment to national unity. We are also lucky that all the efforts to divide Egyptians along sectarian lines have provoked a strong backlash of defiant nationalism at the grassroots level. After all, we are one people, with a common ancestry and a common destiny, living in the land of our forefathers, all of whom have fought together succeeding waves of outside attackers.

Lupercal mentioned that he hadn't been aware that I hadn't celebrated Christmas yet. In fact, I have, twice already. Once at a Christmas party (nearly 100 guests) that my family hosted for our friends and neighbors, most of them Muslim, and once at a wonderful dinner on December 25 at another friend's house, where once again we were Muslims and Christians celebrating together. On Muslim holidays, we are deluged with invitations to the homes of our Muslim friends. Whether in times of sadness or times of joy, we are there for each other, in mosques and in churches and in hospitals and in each others' homes. We are far from unique, in fact this is the norm. Egypt is still old-fashioned in the sense that neighbors become like family, and there is no such thing here as "Christian" or "Muslim" neighborhoods.

One man in Alexandria lost his wife, his two beautiful daughters and his sister-in-law in the blast. His employer in Cairo rented an entire train which took 3,000 of his co-workers, most of them Muslim, to Alexandria to attend a special mass for them. My husband and I know this employer personally.

Western media has once again overplayed its hand and exposed its agenda by systematically ignoring the enormous demonstrations of solidarity with the victims, the overwhelming Muslim response to appeals for blood donations, the mobilization of Muslims to attend Christmas Eve mass about which a Church spokesman said, "If the mass were to be held in Cairo Stadium, it could only accommodate a fraction of all the Egyptians, Christian and Muslim, who are planning to attend." Many of my own Muslim friends and acquaintances will be in church this Thursday night, accompanied by their families.

Like the Western media, the malice and dishonesty of self-appointed "US Copts" and other zionist-linked groups in the US betray their real objectives, and prove that whatever their agenda is, and whoever they are really working for, they have nothing to do with us.

In the same way, attention is turning to certain supposedly "Islamic" satellite tv stations and preachers, none of whom are affiliated with any recognized religious authority, who have been trying to spread sectarian hatred against Copts. There are widespread demands to investigate just where they get all their funding and who is really behind them, most recently made last night by the Sheikh al-Azhar himself in an interview on one of Egypt's most widely-watched tv current affairs shows, "10 PM".

I genuinely believe that this is a turning point, and that it will backfire very badly against those who planned this vicious attack.
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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

Postby Searcher08 » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:35 am

Thank you so much for those reports Alice -
It really resonated about a change in national consciousness - those things are so rare.
I was struck by the weird mass SMS-ing - and the fact that the Telecoms companies were the scene of the original Israeli spy infestation. Whether the bomb originated with brainwashed Salafi or Mossad or the CIA, the emergence of the unknown 'Coptic' groups points to a force(s) which is seeking to divide. If people are able to maintain their focus on the government, it's going to be game over for the dictatorship - and a strong united Egypt is probably the Zionists worst nightmare.
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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

Postby crikkett » Wed Jan 05, 2011 12:23 pm

My thoughts are with you and all honorable Egyptians today, Alice.

May those who are against you fail utterly, be exposed for what they are, and be mocked into obscurity.

I was afraid that Copts would be too frightened of a repeat attack to attend the upcoming Christmas Eve service on January 6, but now it seems that not only the Copts, but a large number of Muslim Egyptians will be filling the churches that night. In addition, Muslim young people from all over Egypt are organizing themselves to stand guard around Egypt's main churches next Thursday, under slogans like, "While some Egyptians pray inside, other Egyptians will stand outside to protect them," and "We will live together or die together."


That's what I'm talking about.
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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

Postby lupercal » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:03 am

AlicetheKurious wrote:Something very strange is happening. Over the past few days, people all over Egypt have been receiving SMS messages informing them that mosques and major supermarkets have been bombed, that the mosque next to the Alexandria Two Saints' Church has been set on fire, that other churches have been attacked, etc. I've received several SMS' myself, from friends who were forwarding messages that they'd received.

Weird. Recalls that bogus Iranian Twitter revolution.
These same US-based "Coptic" organization have claimed, and Western news reports have repeated, that Copts emerging from the church saw Muslims celebrating and "dancing in the blood" and attacked the mosque and that there were violent clashes between Copts and Muslims immediately after the attack. As evidence, they show a brief clip of voices yelling for people to get away from the blast site and others yelling "Allahu Akbar", which they portray as joyful. There are no videos of anybody dancing, in blood or otherwise.

All of these have turned out to be completely untrue.

Yep, that's what the WSJ/WaPo/VOA headlines are screaming, and who would know otherwise if you weren't here to report it? :shock:
Luckily for Egypt, we have two truly outstanding spiritual leaders, the Coptic Pope Shenouda II and the Egypt's highest Islamic authority, the Sheikh of al-Azhar, Ahmed al-Tayeb, both of whom are widely respected by both Muslims and Christians for their wisdom and their deep commitment to national unity.

That's been reported to some extent though not in the US press, and you are lucky indeed. And I'm afraid I concur with your suspicion that the usual suspects are behind this. All roads lead to Langley when it comes to these especially vicious kinds of violence but no doubt there are partners in the picture.
Lupercal mentioned that he hadn't been aware that I hadn't celebrated Christmas yet. In fact, I have, twice already. Once at a Christmas party (nearly 100 guests) that my family hosted for our friends and neighbors, most of them Muslim, and once at a wonderful dinner on December 25 at another friend's house, where once again we were Muslims and Christians celebrating together. On Muslim holidays, we are deluged with invitations to the homes of our Muslim friends. Whether in times of sadness or times of joy, we are there for each other, in mosques and in churches and in hospitals and in each others' homes. We are far from unique, in fact this is the norm. Egypt is still old-fashioned in the sense that neighbors become like family, and there is no such thing here as "Christian" or "Muslim" neighborhoods.

That's a lot of Christmas! :thumbsup
I genuinely believe that this is a turning point, and that it will backfire very badly against those who planned this vicious attack.

I hope you're right Alice but to some extent I share your optimism that the tide may be turning at last. And I sincerely wish you and your family a beautiful, peaceful, and happy Christmas/Epiphany and rest of the year!
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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

Postby Jeff » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:15 am

Egypt Muslims to act as "human shields" at Coptic Christmas Eve mass

Wednesday 5 Jan 2011

“Although 2011 started tragically, I feel it will be a year of eagerly anticipated change, where Egyptians will stand against sectarianism and unite as one,” Father Rafaeil Sarwat of the Mar-Mina church told Ahram Online. The Coptic priest was commenting on the now widespread call by Muslim intellectuals and activists upon Egyptian Muslims at large to flock to Coptic churches across the country to attend Coptic Christmas Eve mass, to show solidarity with the nation's Coptic minority, but also to serve as "human shields" against possible attacks by Islamist militants.

Mohamed Abdel Moniem El-Sawy, founder of El-Sawy Culture Wheel was among the promiment Muslim cultural figures who first floated the bold initiative.

“This is it. It is time to change and unite,” asserted journalist Ekram Youssef, another notable sponsor of the intiative, in a telephone interview with Ahram Online. She added that although it is the government’s responsibility to act and find solutions to bring an end to such violations, "it is time for Egyptian citizens to act to revive the true meaning of national unity."

Following last year's Coptic Christmas Eve attack on congregants as they left their church in the Upper Egyptian city of Naga Hamady, Youssef created the crescent and cross logo with the slogan “A nation for all” - that was adopted during the past couple of days by many of Egypt’s 4 million Facebook users as their profile picture.

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http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent ... ic-Ch.aspx
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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:35 am

Merry Christmas Alice.

I hope its a good one, filled with peace, hope, joy and some nice harmonies. Musical and human.
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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

Postby AlicetheKurious » Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:26 am

Last night, the Egyptian people demonstrated the true meaning of Christmas: "Glory to God in the highest, Peace on Earth and Goodwill toward Men."

Church bells rang across Egypt and inside and outside the churches, crowds of Egyptians came together in the bitterly cold night to express their solidarity and love. In some churches, Muslims standing outside handed out roses to the Christians after the service. In others, the churches were surrounded by young people holding candles and signs of the cross-and-crescent. The entire two-hour mass (from 10pm to midnight) was simultaneously broadcast on all of Egypt's independent tv stations (normally it is broadcast only on one state tv channel). All of Egypt's biggest celebrities either attended church or stood outside with the solidarity demonstrators, who included rich and poor, Muslim and Christian, men and women from every walk of life. Cairo's traffic was even more disastrous than usual, but for once nobody cared. It took us nearly 3 hours to go from one side of Cairo to another, but we didn't mind. To cap it all off, the Pope announced at the end of the mass that the 8 young Muslim solidarity demonstrators who had been arrested (and badly beaten) by the state security two days ago, had been released. There had been plans to hold large demonstrations along the Nile in Cairo and along the sea in Alexandria today, demanding their release.

Now if we could only bottle whatever was in the air last night over Egypt and distribute it to the whole world...

We're off to Alexandria today, to celebrate Christmas yet again.
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Re: Egyptian church bomb blast kills 21

Postby Twyla LaSarc » Fri Jan 07, 2011 11:11 pm

Merry Christmas, Alice!

Thank you for your reports on this.
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