George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby Project Willow » Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:48 am

winsomecowboy2 wrote:I grow tomatoes, heirloom, 11 varieties. I worry about their will to live.


The tomatoes?
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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:50 am

winsomecowboy2 wrote:The phrase 'The End is Nigh' derives from a man who could often be seen walking up and down London's Oxford Street wearing a sandwich board bearing the phrase. The meaning was purely religious - he was warning of the 'impending' Christian vision of Apocalypse - but the phrase has since entered the popular consciousness as a slightly derogatory term for someone or something warning of impending doom.

Day of the triffods, childrens stories set in wartime London, 28 days, From the earliest reading age I was always attracted to the rest of the world perishing. Comforted me in a way. Probably sociopathic, at the very least disturbed however I don't think the attraction is that unique. It's an empowerment fantasy.

It's also a deceptive form of self flattery IMO to think you are part of some sum total of humanity, the last generation.

Utter utter bollocks given our adaptive qualities. For most in the developed word "The world ending" means the electricity goes out.

George Lucas is a loon. He needs a court jester to rip him a new ahole and bring him back to earth from time to time but like anyone surrounded by simpering leeches he's quite mad. Yet here he is providing otherwise presumably rational folk an opportunity to feel vaguely superior.

although reality convulsing is why I at least come to this site. Will it/won't it.

Can't find a pic of the original Oxford street sign guy anywhere.

I live in a community of variously brain damaged folk [I'm not LIKE the others]
One associate has an outdoor hair salon he potters about in madly, sometimes cutting kind peoples hair.
He plays a christian station "End times radio"
I grow tomatoes, heirloom, 11 varieties. I worry about their will to live.


if they are anything like the tomatoes round here their will to live is fine.

What I really noticed on the telly before Brissie flooded, tho I've been looking for years for signs at any number of different emergencies, is how much people love it once they and everyone they know is ok and haven't lost too much. They love helping out and they love being free of the power of the economy. Usually the inconveniences remind people how happy they are to be back when the lights go back on, and they forget how how and relieved they were for those few hours or days when suddenly the future was so uncertain and all people had was each other.

Thousands of people just showed up and started emptying out businesses.



No - i know what you're thinking and it wasn't looting. It was people helping small local businesses, neighbours they didn't know etc etc. the craziest stories are coming out of the floods and so far about 3 reports of looting for alcohol and 2 of boats being looted for joy riding I think.
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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby winsomecowboy2 » Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:59 am

willow

Yes the tomatoes. an attempt at a joke. Still, while repotting them today and being subjected to radio ads for various DVD's that promised "Scientific proof of the word of god" and various endtime references I did indeed fret for my plants. I like to think I don't wilt easily but I do worry about the innocent.

I swear I used to be coherent. and funny.

Sorry. where were we, a galaxy far far away.

Joe

These Tomatoes are strangers in a strange land, Iraq, Bulgerian, Russian, German, Growing in Hawaii. I'd be surprised if any make it. I intend to provide as much protection from bugs and fungus as I can.
I agree, people are far less toxic generally than the cultures that spawn them.
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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby brainpanhandler » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:51 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:Thousands of people just showed up and started emptying out businesses.

No - i know what you're thinking and it wasn't looting. It was people helping small local businesses, neighbours they didn't know etc etc. the craziest stories are coming out of the floods and so far about 3 reports of looting for alcohol and 2 of boats being looted for joy riding I think.


Just today I was watching a History Channel show called Apocalypse Man. In it Rudy Reyes, the show's host, walks the audience through a series of survival considerations and techniques in an urban, post-apocalyptic landscape. At one point he says, " You'd expect that libraries would be an immediate target. But in New Orleans one of the few resources not to be attacked during the crisis was the city library service. Not one of the libraries across the district reported being looted. After Katrina, with internet and cell phones down, libraries became a life saving service, providing information that couldn't be got anywhere else.", which I thought was interesting and probably true.



I don't think I'd have been too focused on looting the local library either if my immediate concerns were water, food, shelter, and medical supplies (alcohol is medicine don't you know).
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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:57 am

I think they were stealing cartons of beer not medicinal alcohol.
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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby brainpanhandler » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:02 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:I think they were stealing cartons of beer not medicinal alcohol.


Cheers Joe. That's still medicine, don't you know.
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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:07 am

Yeah fair enough, especially once that sun came out. More to the point, its ironic that was the extent of the looting considering the hysterical beat up about it in the media.
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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby Iamwhomiam » Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:08 am

winsomecowboy2 wrote: I grow tomatoes, heirloom, 11 varieties. I worry about their will to live.

I have to say, at first I thought 'how nice, he appreciates these foreign entities, these life forms we call "tomatoes;" so utterly alien to our own, yet thriving, living their life to their fullest, I wonder if they would rather not find themselves sliced and slathered with mayonnaise, lettuce and bacon sandwiched between lightly toasted bread moving ever closer to an opened and eager mouth?'
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So they're Christian tomatoes?
Play Mozart.
Love 'em. and asked for their permission to be eaten... good karma!
And then find some bacon and some lettuce...
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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby Luther Blissett » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:20 am

Joe Hillshoist wrote:What I really noticed on the telly before Brissie flooded, tho I've been looking for years for signs at any number of different emergencies, is how much people love it once they and everyone they know is ok and haven't lost too much. They love helping out and they love being free of the power of the economy. Usually the inconveniences remind people how happy they are to be back when the lights go back on, and they forget how how and relieved they were for those few hours or days when suddenly the future was so uncertain and all people had was each other.


Most people crave adventure and can thrive on fear of the unknown - and surviving disaster or revolution or destabilization certainly changes people - sometimes for the better. It reminds me of accounts that I've read from the collapse of Yugoslavia.
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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:47 am

Slightly OT, but these reviews are absolutely hilarious, and totally take the piss out of Mr. Lucas.

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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby Canadian_watcher » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:50 am

Luther Blissett wrote:
Joe Hillshoist wrote:What I really noticed on the telly before Brissie flooded, tho I've been looking for years for signs at any number of different emergencies, is how much people love it once they and everyone they know is ok and haven't lost too much. They love helping out and they love being free of the power of the economy. Usually the inconveniences remind people how happy they are to be back when the lights go back on, and they forget how how and relieved they were for those few hours or days when suddenly the future was so uncertain and all people had was each other.


Most people crave adventure and can thrive on fear of the unknown - and surviving disaster or revolution or destabilization certainly changes people - sometimes for the better. It reminds me of accounts that I've read from the collapse of Yugoslavia.


This is probably my favorite vibe .. of the ones I've so far experienced, anyway. That pulling-together-cause-the-shit-hit-the-fan vibe. It's great. We had a major ice storm here 13 years ago (holy eff, it was THAT LONG ago!!) anyway..
Sure, we were colder than we wanted to be, and we could't get a decent cup of coffee, and we couldn't bathe properly.. but the community spirit followed by the gratefulness.. yeah, I dug on that.
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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby Fixx » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:19 pm

Iamwhomiam wrote:So they're Christian tomatoes?
Play Mozart.
Love 'em. and asked for their permission to be eaten... good karma!
And then find some bacon and some lettuce...


Nope, play them seriously loud thumping Drum and Bass or Heavy Rock, you'll get a better fruit set then...seriously.
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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby crikkett » Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:22 pm

Iamwhomiam wrote:
winsomecowboy2 wrote: I grow tomatoes, heirloom, 11 varieties. I worry about their will to live.

I have to say, at first I thought 'how nice, he appreciates these foreign entities, these life forms we call "tomatoes;" so utterly alien to our own, yet thriving, living their life to their fullest, I wonder if they would rather not find themselves sliced and slathered with mayonnaise, lettuce and bacon sandwiched between lightly toasted bread moving ever closer to an opened and eager mouth?'
Cowboy wrote:
"He plays a christian station "End times radio"

So they're Christian tomatoes?
Play Mozart.
Love 'em. and asked for their permission to be eaten... good karma!
And then find some bacon and some lettuce...


You've made me very hungry :)
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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby Nordic » Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:51 pm

Canadian_watcher wrote:
Luther Blissett wrote:
Joe Hillshoist wrote:What I really noticed on the telly before Brissie flooded, tho I've been looking for years for signs at any number of different emergencies, is how much people love it once they and everyone they know is ok and haven't lost too much. They love helping out and they love being free of the power of the economy. Usually the inconveniences remind people how happy they are to be back when the lights go back on, and they forget how how and relieved they were for those few hours or days when suddenly the future was so uncertain and all people had was each other.


Most people crave adventure and can thrive on fear of the unknown - and surviving disaster or revolution or destabilization certainly changes people - sometimes for the better. It reminds me of accounts that I've read from the collapse of Yugoslavia.


This is probably my favorite vibe .. of the ones I've so far experienced, anyway. That pulling-together-cause-the-shit-hit-the-fan vibe. It's great. We had a major ice storm here 13 years ago (holy eff, it was THAT LONG ago!!) anyway..
Sure, we were colder than we wanted to be, and we could't get a decent cup of coffee, and we couldn't bathe properly.. but the community spirit followed by the gratefulness.. yeah, I dug on that.



Yeah, I've been in a few blizzards like that. Very fond memories of that. And of cross-country skiing down a main city street, completely alone, in the middle of the night. Very cool.
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Re: George Lucas - The World Will End in 2012

Postby justdrew » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:31 pm

George Lucas Dispels Wild 2012 Apocalypse Rumor

* By Lewis Wallace
* January 19, 2011
* 10:12 pm
George Lucas does not believe the world will end in 2012.

Star Wars creator George Lucas was just kidding when he chatted with Seth Rogen about the Mayan prophecy of an apocalypse in 2012. But that hasn’t stopped news sites from regurgitating Rogen’s weird report that Lucas truly believes the end is near.

Even The Washington Post’s Celebritology 2.0 blog got in on the action Wednesday, with a post headlined, “Does George Lucas Think the World Will End in 2012?”

While the question mark might indeed be the blogger’s best friend, the answer to the query is a resounding “no.”

“I spoke with George,” said Lucasfilm rep Lynne Hale in an e-mail to Wired.com about this issue of obvious intergalactic importance.

“He was not serious when he talked about the end of the world in 2012 but he is an adamant believer that the world is flat, that Stonehenge was built by aliens, and that the sun revolves around the Earth,” Hale said. “These are among the many subjects he commonly discusses at length with Elvis, who he’s going to digitally insert into Indy 5 along with a roster of famous dead actors.”

While Lucas and his associates clearly have a sense of humor about the rumor’s wildfire propagation, Rogen was reportedly “left stunned” by Lucas’ comments during a meeting that was also attended by Steven Spielberg, according to The Toronto Sun story that set the rumor mill buzzing.

“George Lucas sits down and seriously proceeds to talk for around 25 minutes about how he thinks the world is gonna end in the year 2012, like, for real. He thinks it,” Rogen told the paper. “I first thought he was joking … and then I totally realized he was serious and then I started thinking, ‘If you’re George Lucas and you actually think the world is gonna end in a year, there’s no way you haven’t built a spaceship for yourself…. So I asked him…, ‘Can I have a seat on it?’”

The Green Hornet actor might well have been joking about the whole thing, too, and the blogosphere is clearly not going to let a little reporting get in the way of a thousand weaselly headlines. But one thing’s for sure: Rogen’s not getting a seat on Lucas’ rocket ship if doomsday hits next year.

“Seth Rogen is a funny guy,” Lucasfilm’s Hale said, “but George and Steven are taking Chris Rock with them on the Millennium Falcon!”
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