Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby vanlose kid » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:52 pm

lupercal wrote:Look vanlose this is real, it's also domestic and if I'm correct you're not native to these parts, so trying to add credibility to the latest fake color-revolution-of-the-week by linking it to what's going on in Wisconsin and apparently Ohio strikes me as the trolling the revolution in the extreme, but don't let me stop you.


you mean it's white?

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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby lupercal » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:02 pm

^ If you're looking for a flame war please go here:

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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby 23 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:08 pm

At the outset of the Egyptian revolution, a pivotal comment was offered by one of the participants which gave me enough reason to feel confident re. their initial success:

"the fear barrier has been broken."

When I see the same barrier being broken by the Wisconsin participants, I'll have some confidence in them as well.
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby 23 » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:43 pm

Live stream of what's happening in cheesehead country:

http://www.livestream.com/theuptake
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby vanlose kid » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:49 pm

lupercal wrote:Look vanlose this is real, it's also domestic and if I'm correct you're not native to these parts, so trying to add credibility to the latest fake color-revolution-of-the-week by linking it to what's going on in Wisconsin and apparently Ohio strikes me as the trolling the revolution in the extreme, but don't let me stop you.




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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby Nordic » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:13 pm

lupercal wrote:What I'm wondering is how this clown Walker got elected in the first place, also how GOP nobody Ron Johnson defeated 3-termer Russ Feingold in his senate reelection race last November. What the hell were peeps thinking anyway?



Wait, you're the guy who sees the CIA behind every rock, yet you're asking that?

You're not up to date on the latest vote-counting technology??
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby Joe Hillshoist » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:27 pm

lupercal wrote:Look vanlose this is real, it's also domestic and if I'm correct you're not native to these parts, so trying to add credibility to the latest fake color-revolution-of-the-week by linking it to what's going on in Wisconsin and apparently Ohio strikes me as the trolling the revolution in the extreme, but don't let me stop you.


Are you serious with that comment or taking the piss? (Honestly I can't tell right now.)
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby seemslikeadream » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:55 pm

Police estimate Wis. Capitol protest crowd at 70,000 :P

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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby eyeno » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:41 pm

Tea baggers may be proof that there is no Grey Bearded dude living in the sky....I asked him to save us from the Tea Baggers and got a busy signal...(sigh)
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby wallflower » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:31 pm

I think the most productive hashtag to follow events at Twitter is #Wisconson, but I chuckled to see #cheeseheadintifada being used.
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby Bruce Dazzling » Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:55 am

Mideast Meets Midwest: Joining the Surge Against Corrupt Elites

WRITTEN BY CHRIS FLOYD
SUNDAY, 20 FEBRUARY 2011 01:50

Tens of thousands of ordinary people pour into the streets in a desperate bid to stop yet another vicious assault on their human rights -- and their human dignity -- by an utterly corrupt political system run by callous, greedy elites. The factotums of the system -- the same kind of third-rate lackeys and shriveled-up souls found in the goon squads of governments since time immemorial -- mewl and bawl at the rabble's effrontery: how dare they challenge their "legitimate" rulers!

The goons spew the usual lies about the regrettable necessity of their repressive measures: there is, as always, a great crisis at hand which requires draconian sacrifices -- of liberty, opportunity, living standards -- from the common people. The elite, of course, are immune from such calls -- which is only fitting, for in this case, as in so many others, they have deliberately manufactured the "crisis" in the first place, in order to extend their dominance over society even further. They are deadly serious in this ambition; and thus the goons, despite the tender, paternalistic tones of their pronouncements, make it clear that they will bring in the military if the rabble continues to defy their masters' wishes. In the meantime, they bus in a handful of "supporters" who, despite being vastly outnumbered by the ranks of the protestors, are featured prominently in the reports of the elite-dominated national media.

These stirring scenes of mass dissent are not set in Egypt, Libya or Bahrain, but deep in the heart of the Homeland itself: Wisconsin. Governor Scott Walker, one of more indecorous bagmen of the corporate elite, is using a "budget crisis" that he himself created with tax favors for the wealthy in a bid to destroy the collective bargaining rights of working people. The immediate target is the public sector unions, but the ultimate goal is the destruction of the very principle of collective bargaining in every sector, as Craig Unger makes clear at Forbes.com.

Walker's class war blitzkrieg is part of a long-running campaign by the gluttonous Koch Brothers and other bloated multi-billionaires to remove the last, fraying restraints on their total control of society. They disguise their apish lust for dominance in libertarian drag, claiming to stand up for the "individual" against the socialistic "collectivism" of union power. But what they want is a world where isolated, atomized, ordinary individuals can offer no resistance whatsoever to the impositions of the moneyed elite. What single employee could stand alone against the Koch Brothers' billions of dollars in any workplace conflict or salary negotiation? What our elites want -- and what they are increasingly getting -- is a people reduced to helotry, to wage slavery, to feudal dependence on unaccountable, uncontrollable overlords.

While it is indeed heartening to see, at last, even the slightest pushback against America's forced march into peonage, no one should be deceived about the thoroughly bipartisan nature of the feudalization process. Walker -- a third-rate, bought-off Republican hack for billionaire string-pullers -- makes an easy target, and has perhaps been too blatant in going about his sugar daddies' business. But his elite entanglements are dwarfed -- like a molehill to Everest -- by those of the progressive Democrat now in the White House. No president in history -- not George Bush II, not George Bush I, not Richard Nixon -- has been more servile to Big Money than Barack Obama. (Although Bill Clinton -- who greenlighted the regulatory gutting that led to the current economic meltdown -- might run him a close second.)

As Matt Taibbi details in yet another remarkable article on the monumental corruption of the American system, Obama has not only made extraordinary efforts to shield Wall Street's criminal class from the slightest accountability for their vastly destructive atrocities, he has put that same criminal class in charge of his economic policy -- and of his literally laughable regulatory "reforms" as well. As Taibbi notes:

Over drinks at a bar on a dreary, snowy night in Washington this past month, a former Senate investigator laughed as he polished off his beer. "Everything's fucked up, and nobody goes to jail," he said. "That's your whole story right there. Hell, you don't even have to write the rest of it. Just write that."

...Nobody goes to jail. This is the mantra of the financial-crisis era, one that saw virtually every major bank and financial company on Wall Street embroiled in obscene criminal scandals that impoverished millions and collectively destroyed hundreds of billions, in fact, trillions of dollars of the world's wealth — and nobody went to jail. Nobody, that is, except Bernie Madoff, a flamboyant and pathological celebrity con artist, whose victims happened to be other rich and famous people. The rest of them, all of them, got off.

...Instead, federal regulators and prosecutors have let the banks and finance companies that tried to burn the world economy to the ground get off with carefully orchestrated settlements — whitewash jobs that involve the firms paying pathetically small fines without even being required to admit wrongdoing. To add insult to injury, the people who actually committed the crimes almost never pay the fines themselves; banks caught defrauding their shareholders often use shareholder money to foot the tab of justice.

... As for President Obama, what is there to be said? Goldman Sachs was his number-one private campaign contributor. He put a Citigroup executive in charge of his economic transition team, and he just named an executive of JP Morgan Chase, the proud owner of $7.7 million in Chase stock, his new chief of staff. "The betrayal that this represents by Obama to everybody is just — we're not ready to believe it," says [Wall Street whistleblower Oliver] Budde, a classmate of the president from their Columbia days. "He's really fucking us over like that? Really? That's really a JP Morgan guy, really?"

Which is not to say that the Obama era has meant an end to law enforcement. On the contrary: In the past few years, the administration has allocated massive amounts of federal resources to catching wrongdoers — of a certain type. Last year, the government deported 393,000 people, at a cost of $5 billion. ... In Ohio last month, a single mother was caught lying about where she lived to put her kids into a better school district; the judge in the case tried to sentence her to 10 days in jail for fraud, declaring that letting her go free would "demean the seriousness" of the offenses.

So there you have it. Illegal immigrants: 393,000. Lying moms: one. Bankers: zero. The math makes sense only because the politics are so obvious. You want to win elections, you bang on the jailable class. You build prisons and fill them with people for selling dime bags and stealing CD players. But for stealing a billion dollars? For fraud that puts a million people into foreclosure? Pass. It's not a crime. Prison is too harsh. Get them to say they're sorry, and move on. Oh, wait — let's not even make them say they're sorry. That's too mean; let's just give them a piece of paper with a government stamp on it, officially clearing them of the need to apologize, and make them pay a fine instead. But don't make them pay it out of their own pockets, and don't ask them to give back the money they stole. In fact, let them profit from their collective crimes, to the tune of a record $135 billion in pay and benefits last year. What's next? Taxpayer-funded massages for every Wall Street executive guilty of fraud?


This is the system -- the "utterly corrupt political system run by callous, greedy elites" -- that produced the egregious assault on our rights and liberties now roiling Wisconsin. And while you will always have factional infighting for the perks of power between various elite cliques, there is a seamless continuum running from the provincial twerp in Madison to the suave global statesman in Washington. They serve the same masters. They seek the same goals. May these first American ripples of the global surge of dissent against corrupt elites grow quickly into a flood.
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby 23 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 11:14 am

The above video of Rep. Gordon Hintz reminds me of...



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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby anothershamus » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:02 pm

via boingboing.net

Some disgruntled Wisconsonites have produced this handy visual guide to understanding the imperious approach of Tea Party governor Scott Walker, who handed $137M in tax breaks to the wealthy, declared an emergency budget shortfall of $140M, and decided to cover it by gutting the state's unions.


This shows the duplicity of the Tea Baggers!

It came with this nice pic:
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Re: Thousands fill the Capitol rotunda in Madison, Wis.

Postby brainpanhandler » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:51 pm

Walker support rally =ed fart in a wind storm. :tongout
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