The Antics of Alex Jones

[RocketMan]

W T F...

Alex Jones on The View and the universe is still unimploded? Then again, his and Baba's operations aren't that different.

[Searcher08]

:shock2: W T F...

Alex Jones on The View and the universe is still unimploded? Then again, his and Baba's operations aren't that different.

Charlie's mind is surfing the vector product of and

[Canadian_watcher]

this whole thing is entirely bizarre. It could be the penultimate bizarre media event after which nothing ever has to make sense again. Why is Charlie Sheen's rant SO important that the View Crew would have ALEX JONES on as a guest? Shit, right now, at this point in history, there are literally 200 other things that are not only fascinating and important but also TIMELY to talk about, even in the 12 minute news cycle. Even for the obviously brain-dead audience of something like the View - a show which at the best of times only has two people screeching over each other about a subject I could give a fuck about.

Unlike justdrew, I do think Sheen sounded a little out there on AJ. I'd like to hear the Kevin and Bean (?) show interview Nordic posted about (not that I doubt you Nordic.. I just want to hear the interview and its inappropriate post-chatter) In any case, this has been blown so far out of proportion it's mind-boggling. As if they care about Charlie Sheen's health. As if anyone got hurt by him. As if there are lasting consequences for humanity.

I wish I could cancel my cable, but until I don't have a family (god forbid) that'll never be possible.

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If I were a target of widespread maliciousness, I'd accept Alex's brand of friendship any day. With gratitude.

[justdrew]

I would just like to apologize for some of the things I said. I was completely out of line comparing whores to TMZ. Whores shouldn't have to put up with that kind of name calling, and I'm sorry. TMZ and the rest of the lamestream celebrity ass-sniffers are more appropriately defined as being like Qaddafi's hired guns. worse-than-useless thugs.

[8bitagent]

Saw the interview on the Today show with Charlie Sheen. My own gut tells me he doesn't look or sound right. Ultimately he's playing into the media's perception of him imploding and cascading down into the depths of madness(ala Mel Gibson) I think it's clear Sheen is going into "for years they called me nuts, well you wanna see nuts? the gloves are off!" So he's definitely upset. Also though, clean and sober doesn't necessarily mean someone is tolerable. Often people become more manic even after longer periods of sobriety.

But regardless, the two main stories of the last week is the idea of crazy off the hinge lunatics. Charlie Sheen and Gadhafi, and to some degree Glenn Beck(who has been going off the deep end with his bizarre commie plot theories)

[2012 Countdown]

recent-


Alex Jones interviews Mancow Muller about a statement Donald Rumsfeld made on Mancows radio show. Mancow asked about 911 and building 7.
Donald Rumsfeld said he's never heard of building 7.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OEspfV4xzo

[stickdog99]

My theory is that Charlie Sheen is angling for the lead in the upcoming Gary Busey biopic.

[psynapz]

My theory is that Charlie Sheen is angling for the lead in the upcoming Gary Busey biopic.

[JackRiddler]

:shock2: W T F...

Alex Jones on The View and the universe is still unimploded? Then again, his and Baba's operations aren't that different.

No, the world implodes when Oprah Winfrey goes on The Alex Jones Show to reveal her Pagan Goddess Powers, which she has put at the service of the NWO plan to have Dr. Peter Singer commit genocide against all Christian water-filter salesmen and owners of real physical gold.

If I were a target of widespread maliciousness, I'd accept Alex's brand of friendship any day. With gratitude.

If I were a target of widespread maliciousness, one possible cause (if my name was also Charlie Sheen) would be that I adopted "Alex's" malicious style of interacting with humanity in the first place.

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If I were a target of widespread maliciousness, one possible cause (if my name was also Charlie Sheen) would be that I adopted "Alex's" malicious style of interacting with humanity in the first place.

I disagree with your characterization of Alex's "style of interacting with humanity" as malicious.

Certainly caustic and discomforting to some.

But I don't detect malice.

This won't be the first time that someone sees something that I don't, though.

Varying mileages occur all the time.

[Nordic]

I saw Howard Stern was on The Daily Show last night. I didn't watch it, but I was reminded of something.

Imagine of Howard Stern said everything that Charlie Sheen had said lately. "I'm high on Howard Stern." for instance.

It would just be Howard being Howard and nobody would think twice about it. People would laugh and pay him millions of dollars to keep going.

Charlie Sheen talks basically the same way, and there's a huge conspiracy to label him as nutso.

[nathan28]

If I were a target of widespread maliciousness, one possible cause (if my name was also Charlie Sheen) would be that I adopted "Alex's" malicious style of interacting with humanity in the first place.

I disagree with your characterization of Alex's "style of interacting with humanity" as malicious.

Certainly caustic and discomforting to some.

But I don't detect malice.

Anyone up for a fishing expedition?

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When I say Alex Jones promotes racism, a rabid homophobia, fake survivalism, quack cures, a fictional view of the ruling class and its practices (the "New World Order"), flag-waving nationalism, celebrity worship, libertarian "get off my property" economics, bad religion and bizarre Obama-centered woo in the mode of Beck and Orly Taitz; and when I say he has associated all of these successfully with 9/11 truth, which to him was nothing more than his horse to ride into a new niche on the left, and that he managed to do this with some unfortunate collaboration from good people who knew better but thought he was a necessary ally, tainting them in the process and sowing discouragement within the former movement, do you care to dispute these facts as false?

It's funny, I was just reading a great critique of Alex Jones over at a forum I found linked via the DU 9/11 dungeon. The pieces aren't 'done' as the author admits, but it is a great start, with some good analysis and the links to back it up. (Moreover, I enjoyed the tone of the piece, no talk of shill this or shill that--) I'm tempted to just paste the whole thing in here since it looks like one of those ad-sponsored free forums that tend to disappear, but I don't want to derail the original thread. Here's a select few quotes; there are three parts to it:

Part I Alex Jones in Context

Jones on the other hand maintains an agnostic Libertarian position which labels the left and right debate as a meaningless tool utilised by the elites as a form of social control. George Bush, was once his cash cow but now that Obama is on the scene Jones is on air constantly berating Obama’s ‘socialism’ and his govt run healthcare plans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-mbOHIwKo) Yet, Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, a genuine socialist (and a person who generally enjoys the support of Prison Planet) has extensive government funded healthcare programs running throughout his own country. Jones ideological perspective shows its first cracks here. He seems to ignore the fact that the very people advocating Chavez’s overthrow are the same type of groups lobbying against US healthcare reform as enacted by Obama.

CONSPIRIHIPOCRISY.
1) Jones's championing of the right to bare arms is an interesting example of what I term conspirihypocrisy, as he and many of his advocates rail against the evils of the secret government yet fail to see that the very masters of war (The Military Industrial Complex and gun manufacturers) they decry also have massive shares in the very weapons and munitions companies he and his citizen militia fans utilise. Indeed the weapons they are armed with often come directly from military surplus (http://www.scribd.com/doc/18414637/Equi ... itia-Group).

Part 2: Alex Jones On The Kennedy Assassination. (I found this one the most damning & interesting in some ways, and it goes into Jones' right hand man, Paul Joseph Watson...)

...it’s apparent that Jones had never even bothered to even turn a page of Marr's book before discussing the topic with him. Instead, Jones literally seemed to be one of the "I've watched JFK and become an instant expert" fraternity.(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnOyOFj_n4w). Jones kicked off proceedings by absurdly stating that Kennedy was very much an Eastern establishment 'Blue blood'. To which Marr's replied to the contrary and gave him a run down of Kennedy's family background (http://www.youtube.co /watch?v=U1eI2_NricM) How on earth anyone
could think of JFK a 2nd generation Irish Catholic as being a waspish member of the Eastern establishment is beyond me. (http://www.annrachelmarlowe.com/2005/08 ... od-values/}

Alex Jones Part 3: Kennedy Assassination, Bohemian Grove and Conclusion.

Carl Ogelsby a well respected commentator and researcher in the Assassination community said in the 1992 documentary ‘Beyond JFK; The Question of Conspiracy’

“We must be careful of running into the ether of our own
imaginations”

And, of course, for more hard questions about Alex Jones, see 8bitagent's thread "Confessions of a former Alex Jones fan"

RI: Controlled Opposition
Archived version of OP article (original site now 404'd) (WARNING: script/ad-heavy link)

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Alex Jones

July 25th 2001 : Alex predicts that globalists are going to blow stuff up Reichstag style. Wants listeners to call the White House to let them know that THEY know what the Gubbamint is about to do. Predicts Gubbamint will try to blame Osama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtOFudm ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAHqSfDNjaI

Bill Cooper

June 28th 2001 : Patriot/Militia/UFO purveyor of shit, Bill Cooper goes on air predicting there will be a major attack on the USA and Osama will be blamed.
September 9 2001 : Cooper almost served an arrest warrant
November 2001 : Police make attempt to raid Cooper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy4EyBstOsA

Why do all of the purveyors of rightwing extremism conveniently know shit gonna go boom soon? Yet nothing is done to stop it?

sites like AboveTopSecret and Rense, and Infowar seem more invested in getting you to eat steaming piles of bullshit whole without question. That difference interests me. I have some theories about that... and I will sum it up here real quick and then drop it out of respect for things i don't fully understand or labeling anyone as something they are not:

.........................A. This Gubbamint..................................
.......................................^...............................................
X. Gubbamint <--------------------> Y. Anti Gubbamint
.......................................V...............................................
...........................B. That Gubbamint................................

and one final correspodance with the above:

X. Bullshit...........<--------------------> Y. Militant Satanic

........................................................... Steaming Hot

........................................................... Grievous Bullshit

Hope that diagram came out. Will leave it right there.

AlterNet
Did Paranoid Right-Wing Media Fuel the Pittsburgh Cop Killer's Rage?
By Max Blumenthal, The Daily Beast
Posted on April 8, 2009, Printed on April 8, 2009
http://www.alternet.org/story/135592/

On April 6, two days after the 22-year-old Richard Poplawski allegedly murdered three police officers in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, a radio host named Alex Jones settled in before a microphone in his studio in Austin, Texas to do some damage control. "The mainstream media has certainly enjoyed tying me into this story," Jones complained. "They're attacking me and saying I'm delusional and there's no New World Order The Second Amendment, what the country's founded on--it's all my fault!"

Poplawski was a neo-Nazi wannabe who railed against blacks, Jews, "Zionists," and gun control. And like many members of the far-right fringe, he allegedly visited Jones' Web sites and posted alarming reports by Jones' writers on the white supremacist message board, Stormfront. (Poplawski's posts are here, authored under the handle, "Braced For Fate.") While Alex Jones generally avoids overt racism, he has found an eager audience on Stormfront by conjuring dark visions of an impending New World Order, claiming FEMA is secretly building a national concentration camp network, and announcing that President Barack Obama has planned mass gun seizures on his way to establishing a leftist dictatorship. "Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens," warned a March 13 commentary on Jones' website, Prison Planet.

In the wake of Poplawski's alleged murder spree, the killer's friends and family members painted a portrait of a paranoid young man whose worldview was informed almost totally by the kind of conspiratorial themes entertained by Jones. Poplawski's best friend, Edward Perkovic, who also spouted white supremacist rhetoric, told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review that his friend "grew angry recently over fears Obama would outlaw guns." Poplawski's mother remarked to police investigators that her son targeted cops "because he believed that as a result of economic collapse, the police were no longer able to protect society."

But hysterical warnings of government gun grabs and a socialist takeover of the U.S. are no longer the sole proprietary interest of fringe players like Jones. In the Obama era, Jones' conspiracy theories have graduated to primetime on Fox News. And radicals like Poplawski are tuning in. Indeed, according to the Anti-Defamation League, the alleged killer posted a YouTube clip to Stormfront of top-rated Fox News host Glenn Beck contemplating the existence of FEMA-managed concentration camps. ("He backed out," Poplawski wrote cryptically beside the video.) Three weeks later, Poplawski posted another Youtube clip to Stormfront, this time of a video blogger advocating "Tea Parties," or grassroots conservative protests organized by Beck and Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich (see here and here) against President Barack Obama's bailout plan.

Jones has gradually come to be accepted by the right-wing media. In September 2007, Jones interrupted a live broadcast by Fox News host Geraldo Rivera (Rivera was reporting at the time on "the secret world of restroom gay sex") by shouting into a megaphone, "9-11 was an inside job!" He was hauled away by NYPD officers soon after. On March 18, however, Jones became a guest of honor inside Fox studios, introduced as "the great Alex Jones" by Fox News contributor Judge Andrew Napolitano during a lengthy segment on the online show, The Strategy Room. Towards the end of his spot, Jones celebrated his sudden and dramatic influence on the conservative movement's biggest media personalities.

"I've never seen an awakening this big. I'm seeing Glenn Beck talk about the New World Order on Fox, I'm seeing you talk about it," Jones told Napolitano. "We're seeing Lou Dobbs talk about it, we're seeing mainline hosts--Limbaugh's even talking about global government. Michael Savage is talking about how Obama may stage crises to bring in martial law. So all the things that I was talking about in the wilderness ten plus years ago are now hitting mainstream, and it is great!"

David Neiwert, a veteran reporter on right-wing militia movements and author of the forthcoming book, The Eliminationists: How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right, explained that by co-opting conspiratorial rhetoric from the farthest shores of the right, mainstream conservative talkers can inflame the passions of paranoiacs like Poplawski to a dangerous degree. "It's always been a problem when major league demagogues start promulgating false information for political gain," Neiwert told me. "What it does is unhinge fringe players from reality and dislodges them even further. When someone like Poplawski hears Glenn Beck touting One World Government and they're gonna take your gun theories, they believe then that it must be true. And that's when they really become crazy."

For Jones, whatever bad publicity he incurred from a fan's alleged killing spree paled in significance to the sudden cachet he has gained among conservative media bigwigs. During his April 6 broadcast, two days after the murders, he boasted, "Now, if you listen to [Sean] Hannity's show, if you listen to Savage; you listen to Limbaugh, it's almost like Alex Jones is hosting the show."

Max Blumenthal is a senior writer for The Daily Beast and writing fellow at The Nation Institute, whose book, Republican Gomorrah (Basic/Nation Books), is forthcoming in Spring 2009. Contact him at maxblumenthal3000@yahoo.com.
© 2009 The Daily Beast All rights reserved.
View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/story/135592/

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From upthread:

Alex Jones is an inside job
Tuesday, January 26, 2010

BTC-Alex Jones evolved to become the name to both support and then to discredit the 911 truth movement. He's come full circle as a provacateur. My worst notions about controlled opposition and Alex Jones are now confirmed.

I had earnest suspicion of this news makers use and abuse of news to serially discredit the (L)iberty movement. Here is video proof of a legitimate rally where he is outing his presence as a provacateur.

RALLY BEFORE ALEX JONES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw

RALLY AFTER ALEX JONES
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB03TLRbLX4

FUCK ALEX JONES.
http://www.fontcraft.com/fbs/?p=417

http://beatthechip.blogspot.com/2010/01 ... e-job.html

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[Laodicean]

[82_28]

Hahaha. WTF?