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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby WakeUpAndLive » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:19 pm

Someone at TEPCO has finally made a more definitive statement about the fuel rods:

Japanese and American assessments of the crisis have differed, with the plant's owner denying Jazcko's report Wednesday that Unit 4's spent fuel pool was dry and that anyone who gets close to the plant could face potentially lethal doses of radiation. But a Tokyo Electric Power Co. executive moved closer to the U.S. position Thursday.

"Considering the amount of radiation released in the area, the fuel rods are more likely to be exposed than to be covered," Yuichi Sato said.

...At the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant, a core team of 180 emergency workers has been rotating out of the complex to minimize radiation exposure.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110317/ap_ ... earthquake


My prayers and support go out to these brave souls at the plant still. At the least it is nice to get some information directly from TEPCO about what is happening.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby 23 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 8:20 pm

I'd be a little more confident if this guy was in charge.

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby Jeff » Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:44 am

A radiation reading of 20 millisieverts per hour was recorded at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant -- the highest yet recorded there

12 minutes ago via web


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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby 82_28 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:03 am

My girlfriend had to get iodine today for some surgery she had. She had her big toe nail removed. They immediately asked if it was because of "Japan radiation". I feel like we're all about to live in Dhalgren realized.

Dhalgren is a science fiction novel by Samuel R. Delany. The story begins with a cryptic passage:

to wound the autumnal city.
So howled out for the world to give him a name.
The in-dark answered with wind.

What follows is an extended trip to and through Bellona, a fictional city in the American Midwest cut off from the rest of the world by some unknown catastrophe. William Gibson has referred to Dhalgren as "A riddle that was never meant to be solved."[1]

An event horizon, enveloping Bellona, prevents all radio and television signals, even phone messages, from entering or leaving the city. A rift may have been created in space-time. One night the perpetual cloud cover parts to reveal two moons in the darkness. One day a red sun swollen to hundreds of times the size it ordinarily appears rises to terrify the populace, then sets—and the same featureless cloud cover returns, with no hint that it was ever otherwise. Street signs and landmarks shift constantly, while time appears to contract and dilate. Buildings burn for days, but are never consumed, while others burn and later show no signs of damage. Gangs roam the nighttime streets, their members hidden within holographic projections of gigantic insects or mythological creatures. The few people left in Bellona struggle with survival, boredom, and each other. It is their reactions to (and dealings with) the strange happenings and isolation in the city that are the focus of the novel, rather than the happenings themselves.

The novel's protagonist is a drifter who suffers from partial amnesia: he can remember neither his own name nor the names of his parents, though he knows his mother was an American Indian. He wears only one sandal, shoe, or boot. (Characters in two other Delany novels and one short story dress the same way: Mouse in Nova [1968], Hogg in Hogg [1995], and Roger in "We, in Some Strange Power's Employ Move on a Rigorous Line" [1967]). Possibly he is intermittently schizophrenic. Not only does the novel end in schizoid babble (which recurs at various points in the text), but the protagonist has memories of a stay in a mental hospital, and his perception of the "changes in reality" sometimes differs from that of the other characters. Also he suffers from other significant memory loss in the course of the story. As well, he is dysmetric, confusing left and right and often taking wrong turns at street corners and getting lost in the city.


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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby 23 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:36 am

I think that the below comment hints at Tepco's objective for spraying the reactors with water:

to bring 'em to a temperature that can facilitate pouring concrete to encase 'em.

Being a camper, that kinda makes sense to me.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

#0506: Fukushima's operator TEPCO has said that it would not be impossible to encase the plant's reactors in\rconcrete, though cooling them down is the priority, Reuters reports.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby ninakat » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:44 am

This is absolutely terrifying:

Flashpoints (Pacifica Radio program)
March 17, interview with Dr. Karl Grossman
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby ninakat » Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:50 am

More from Grossman -- this from DemocracyNow:



Democracy NOW! DN! - Fears of a full-scale nuclear reactor meltdown are increasing as Japanese authorities use military helicopters to dump water on the crippled Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power station. The water appears to have missed its target and failed to cool the plant's reactors and spent fuel rods. Some experts say U.S. reactors are safer than those in Japan. But investigative journalist, Karl Grossman, notes a 1985 report by the National Regulatory Commission acknowledged a 50 percent chance of a severe core accident among the more than 100 nuclear power plants in the United States over a 20-year period.

EDIT: The following is a longer clip, which includes two other nuclear experts (Paul Gunter and Diane D'Arrigo)

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby vanlose kid » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:36 am

Tokyo Passengers Set Off O'Hare Radiation Detectors
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/17/2011 15:10 -0400

No seriously, it is all under control. And furthermore, the radiation detectors only go off on less than dangerous doses. And if that fails, GE can simply raise the sensitivity threshold on its scanners so no more vile, malicious false alarms such as this are set off in the future. "Mayor Richard Daley acknowledged today passengers on a flight from Tokyo had set off radiation detectors at O’Hare International Airport, but he offered no details and said federal officials will be handling the situation."

From Chicago Breaking News:

“Of course the protection of the person coming off the plane is very important in regards to any radiation, especially within their families and anything else,” Daley said at a downtown news conference to discuss his trip to China this week.

City Aviation Commissioner Rosemarie Andolino would only say, “We are aware that occurred yesterday. We are working with Customs and Border Protection on this issue." She referred reporters to the Department of Homeland Security.


And the follow up from Chicago Positive Spin News:

Federal officials found traces of radiation on a United Airlines jet that arrived at Chicago’s O’Hare International Airport from Tokyo Wednesday but determined that the plane’s cargo and passengers were safe.

Airline and government officials are reluctant to address their efforts to detect radiation contamination on U.S. aircraft at a time when some members of the public are jittery about possible fallout from Japan’s stricken nuclear plants.


It is unclear if those who set off the alarms will be arrested for smuggling illegal radiation from Japan, where gamma waves are being scared into hiding if one is brave enough to believe the domestic government.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/tokyo- ... -detectors


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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby vanlose kid » Fri Mar 18, 2011 2:48 am

Japanese earthquake takes heavy toll on ageing population
Shocking stories of deaths emerge as the military is enlisted to help at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant

Robert Booth, and Justin McCurry in Tokyo
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 17 March 2011 20.56 GMT

The devastating impact of the Japanese earthquake on the country's ageing population was exposed on Thursday as dozens of elderly people were confirmed dead in hospitals and residential homes as heating fuel and medicine ran out.

In one particularly shocking incident, Japan's self-defence force discovered 128 elderly people abandoned by medical staff at a hospital six miles from the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant. Most of them were comatose and 14 died shortly afterwards. Eleven others were reported dead at a retirement home in Kesennuma because of freezing temperatures, six days after 47 of their fellow residents were killed in the tsunami. The surviving residents of the retirement home in Kesennuma were described by its owner, Morimitsu Inawashida, as "alone and under high stress". He said fuel for their kerosene heaters was running out.

Almost a quarter of Japan's population are 65 or over, and hypothermia, dehydration and respiratory diseases are taking hold among the elderly in shelters, many of whom lost their medication when the wave struck, according to Eric Ouannes, general director of Doctors Without Borders' Japan affiliate.

This comes after Japan's elderly people bore the brunt of the initial impact of the quake and tsunami, with many of them unable to flee to higher ground.

Although the people from the hospital near Fukushima were moved by the self-defence forces to a gymnasium in Iwaki, there were reports that conditions were not much better there. An official for the government said it felt "helpless and very sorry for them". "The condition at the gymnasium was horrible," said Cheui Inamura. "No running water, no medicine and very, very little food. We simply did not have means to provide good care."

Japan's deepening humanitarian crisis came as the military was enlisted to try to douse the damaged nuclear reactors and spent fuel pools at the Fukushima plant using helicopters and high-powered hoses. Chinook helicopters dropped several tonnes of water, much of which seemed to miss its target. More workers were drafted into the danger zone to prevent the spread of radiation and the plant's operator said it had managed to connect an electric cable to allow it to restart critical water pumps in one of the six units.

The US Nuclear Regulatory Commission chairman, Gregory Jaczko, said the commission believed "radiation levels are extremely high" at the plant, while Britain said citizens should not go any closer than 50 miles from the plant, much further than Japan's recommendation to stay 12 miles away or take shelter indoors if evacuation was not possible within an 18-mile radius.

Sir John Beddington, Britain's chief scientific adviser, also said he believed cooling water essential to preventing radioactive emissions from the spent fuel pools alongside reactor 4 had almost totally evaporated and he was "extremely worried" the storage pools at reactors 5 and 6 were also leaking.

The Japanese government revised the estimated disaster death toll up from 10,000 to 15,000. It confirmed that 5,178 people had died and 2,285 were injured. The number of missing was increased to 8,913 from 7,844. Almost 200,000 households regained electricity, but this left more than 450,000 without power. Approximately 2.5m households still do not have access to water.

Pat Fuller, of the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies, which met on Thursday in the earthquake zone to plan longer term relief with the Red Cross of Japan, said the lack of heating oil was critical.

"They don't have enough kerosene to run heaters for all the evacuation centres," he said. "Only a small percentage of the petrol stations are functioning which affects efforts to get food back into the shops. There had been an outbreak of gastric flu at one health centre we visited and if that hits old people there could be serious complications."

Search and rescue teams began scaling back their operations as relatives began to lose hope of finding missing loved ones alive. In the town of Kamaishi, American and British teams completed their final sweeps, and Japanese mechanical diggers began the task of clearing collapsed homes, offices and stores.

Crews found more than a dozen bodies, some trapped beneath homes flipped on their roofs, another at the wheel of his overturned car. In three days of searching the battered coast, they found no survivors. "We have no more tasks," said Pete Stevenson, a firefighter heading Britain's 70-strong team. "The Japanese government have told us they are now moving from search and rescue to the recovery phase."

Heather Heath, a British firefighter, said: "There are probably dozens of bodies we just can't reach. The water can force people under floorboards and into gaps we can't search. It's such a powerful force."

In Rikuzentakata Katsuya Maiya, whose home was hit by the tsunami, said he had accepted he would not find his 71-year old sister-in-law and her husband. The elderly couple fled their home on foot, but they could not keep up with their neighbours and fell behind as the tsunami rushed in.

"I think there is no hope," he said. "The only thing that I can do is wait until members of the Japanese self-defence force collect their bodies."

The very young too were suffering. Save the Children on Thursday reached Ishinomaki, Nobiru and Onagawa, north of Sendai, and reported children living in miserable conditions. "There were some terrible scenes, in some places like Onagawa there was nothing left," said Ian Woolverton, who led the mission. "In other places like Ishinomaki we found children in evacuation centres huddled around kerosene lamps."

The charity said they met Kazuki Seto, eight, at an evacuation centre not far from Sendai. He told them: "We are really worried about the nuclear power plants. We are very afraid of nuclear radiation. That's why we don't play outside." Another, Yasu Hiro, 10, added: "We know about the bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and we are very scared. It makes us really worry. If it explodes it is going to be terrible."

New footage also emerged of the tsunami striking last Friday, filmed by a local reporter who fled to safety as the wave swept in. The footage showed a wave crashing down a street moments after he found safety on a staircase.

Buildings and cars were swept away, while a father and two children were stranded on the side of an upturned car. A woman clung to a tree. She was rescued using a fire hose. "Thank you. Thank you. I thought I was going to die," she said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ma ... ion-deaths


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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby ninakat » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:30 am

U.S. nuclear officials suspect Japanese plant has a dire breach
A leak in a spent fuel pool at the Fukushima nuclear plant would be an unprecedented problem with no clear remedy, experts say.
By Ralph Vartabedian, Barbara Demick and Laura King, Los Angeles Times
March 18, 2011

Reporting from Los Angeles, Kesennuma, Japan, and—
U.S. government nuclear experts believe a spent fuel pool at Japan's crippled Fukushima reactor complex has a breach in the wall or floor, a situation that creates a major obstacle to refilling the pool with cooling water and keeping dangerous levels of radiation from escaping.

That assessment by U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission officials is based on the sequence of events since the earthquake and information provided by key American contractors who were in the plant at the time, said government officials familiar with the evaluation. It was compelling evidence, they said, that the wall of the No. 4 reactor pool has a significant hole or crack.

Unlike the reactor itself, the spent fuel pool does not have its own containment vessel, and any radioactive particles and gases can more easily spew into the environment if the uranium fuel begins to burn. In addition, the pool, which contains 130 tons of uranium fuel, is housed in a building that Japanese authorities say appears to have been damaged by fire or explosions.

A breach in the pool would leave engineers with a problem that has no precedent or ready-made solution, said Edwin Lyman, a physicist with the Union of Concerned Scientists.

"My intuition is that this is a terrible situation and it is only going to get worse," he said. "There may not be any way to deal with it."

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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:48 am

Japanese public statements, however, did not describe the No. 4 reactor as the most urgent task confronting emergency workers. “Cooling the No. 3 reactor is still our top priority,” Edano said in a briefing on national television.


I bet. And thank you. I think number three may be the one with the MOX fuel stored in it.

Fox news just blatantly said they expect radiation to hit the west coast today.
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby eyeno » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:09 am

Does anybody know how to interpret this? This looks like it may be cps cycles per second like a regular gieger counter type reading. Agree? Gamma rad column.

http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cemp/recent/all.html
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Re: Nuclear Meltdown Watch

Postby seemslikeadream » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:32 am

Japan at LEVEL 5 = Three Mile Island was a 5
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Japan's PM Says Nuclear Situation 'Very Grave'
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