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by Nordic » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:41 pm
by DrVolin » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:21 pm
by DrVolin » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:22 pm
Nordic wrote:The story I heard was his itty bitty plane crashed into an enormous pelican.
by Nordic » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:42 pm
As a person who appreciated his music, I am saddened by his untimely
demise, but this should not blind us to some highly germane facts. To
wit:
John Denver was not this person's real name. He was born Henry John
Deutschendorf Jr. His hometown: Roswell, N.M.
Want more? His father was an Air Force officer.
Getting the picture? OK, now consider this: If you add up the digits of
his birthdate (12-31-43) and his death date (10-12-97) and the time he
took off (17:00 hours) and the time he crashed (17:27) and his age (53)
and the yards offshore he crashed (100), and then subtract the number of
years it has been since the Roswell Incident (50), you get 18. And we
all know what 18 is.
Three sixes. The "mark of the beast," from Revelation. The conclusion,
it seems to me, is inescapable.
John Denver was a Little Alien.
by 82_28 » Fri Apr 15, 2011 2:55 pm
On March 29, 1976 Sinatra was the "Friend" on John Denver's television special for ABC, John Denver and Friend. Then, on April 11 Sinatra performed at the Westchester Premier Theater, after which he posed for the now infamous photograph with several organized crime figures, including Jimmy Fratianno and Carlo Gambino.[52]
On May 1, 1976 Sinatra was back on the road, and over ten nights would tour with Count Basie and his orchestra with their final show of the tour being in Nashville at The Grand Ole Opry.
In July 1976, Sinatra married long-time girlfriend Barbara Marx, the former wife of Zeppo Marx. It was Sinatra's fourth marriage, and they remained married for the rest of Sinatra's life.
Sinatra's performance at Jerry Lewis's annual telethon for muscular dystrophy provided a surprise for host Jerry Lewis when Sinatra brought onto the stage Dean Martin to reunite Martin and Lewis after not having spoken to each other for 20 years.
On January 6, 1977, Sinatra's mother, Dolly, was killed in a plane crash on the San Gorgonio Mountain in Southern California. The death of his mother had a profound effect on Sinatra, who returned to the Catholicism of his youth, taking instruction, and remarrying Barbara Sinatra in the Catholic Church, which required the annulment of his marriage to his first wife, Nancy Barbato.[53]
Later that year Sinatra produced and starred in his first television movie, Contract On Cherry Street. Sinatra committed two months to location shooting in and around New York City for a near-three hour film that would be broadcast over two nights and trumpeted as a major event during a time when the television movie becoming increasingly popular. "Aces to this fine thriller" commented Leonard Maltin.[citation needed]
In 1979, in front of the Pyramids in Egypt, Sinatra performed for Anwar Sadat, back in Las Vegas, while celebrating his 40 years in show business and his 64th birthday, he was awarded the Grammy Trustees Award during a party at Caesars Palace.
by battleshipkropotkin » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:05 am
by Joe Hillshoist » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:33 am
DrVolin wrote:Some fuel selectors are tricky. On the old Cessna 152s for example, it is just a little lever along the floor with a metal bit that sometimes gets stuck in your pantleg. Taking your foot off the rudder pedal can sometimes lift it and cut the fuel supply. But I don't buy the unrecoverable spiral at 500' in a light plane with a cruise speed of 125 kt. Unless you close your eyes for more than about 30 seconds, I don't see it happening.
by 8bitagent » Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:46 am
82_28 wrote:
I now go to youtube to see if there is a clip of this episode. Sure enough. A duet with Denver and Sinatra about losing love and such in September, a month we will always forever, relate to tragedies dealing with aircraft.
Watch that. Anybody getting a twinge of a little occult meaning, a little stronger than before, yet?
Fuckin' weird. I know now what I'm doing with the rest of my day now. I'll have to see if I can find the stories of Sinatra's mother's death. . .
This time there really is nobody flying the plane ... We are living in dangerously weird times now. Smart people just shrug and admit they're dazed and confused. The only ones left with any confidence at all are the New Dumb. It is the beginning of the end of our world as we knew it. Doom is the operative ethic.
The autumn months are never a calm time in America. Back to Work, Back to Football Practice, etc....Autumn is a very Traditional period, a time of strong Rituals and the celebrating of strange annual holidays like Halloween and Satanism and the fateful Harvest Moon, which can have ominous implications for some people.
Autumn is always a time of Fear and Greed and Hoarding for the winter coming on. Debt collectors are active on old people and fleece the weak and helpless. They want to lay in enough cash to weather the known horrors of January and February. There is always a rash of kidnapping and abductions of schoolchildren in the football months. Preteens of both sexes are traditionally seized and grabbed off the streets by gangs of organized perverts who traditionally give them as Christmas gifts to each other to be personal sex slaves and playthings.
by Marie Laveau » Thu Aug 25, 2011 11:26 am
DrVolin wrote:Some fuel selectors are tricky. On the old Cessna 152s for example, it is just a little lever along the floor with a metal bit that sometimes gets stuck in your pantleg. Taking your foot off the rudder pedal can sometimes lift it and cut the fuel supply. But I don't buy the unrecoverable spiral at 500' in a light plane with a cruise speed of 125 kt. Unless you close your eyes for more than about 30 seconds, I don't see it happening.
by MinM » Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:09 pm
justdrew wrote:MinM wrote:http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?p=275342#p275342A couple years before JFK Jr and Egypt Air990 - Henry John Deutschendorf, Jr. - had strangely similar issues with his Fuel Selector Valve during a fatal plane crash.
ahh yes, the fuel selector valve, that's it! thanks MinM
"On August 25, 2001, at 6:45 pm (EST), Aaliyah and various members of her record company boarded a twin engine Cessna 402B (N8097W) at Marsh Harbour, Abaco Islands, The Bahamas, to travel to an airport in Opa-locka, Florida, after they completed filming the music video for "Rock the Boat".The crew had a flight scheduled the following day, but Aaliyah and her entourage were eager to return to the United States due to the filming finishing early, so they demanded that their heavy equipment be loaded on the plane rather than left behind. It resulted in the aircraft being well beyond the standard weight and balance tolerance provided by Cessna.
The plane crashed shortly after takeoff, about 200 feet (60 m) from the runway.Aaliyah, pilot Luis Morales III, hair stylist Eric Forman, Anthony Dodd, security guard Scott Gallin, video producer Douglas Kratz, stylist Christopher Maldonado, and Blackground Records employees Keith Wallace and Gina Smith were killed.According to findings from an inquest conducted by the coroner's office in The Bahamas, Aaliyah suffered from "severe burns and a blow to the head", in addition to severe shock. The coroner theorized that, even if Aaliyah had survived the crash, her recovery would have been virtually impossible given the severity of her injuries.The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) report stated that "the airplane was seen lifting off the runway, and then nose down, impacting in a marsh on the south side of the departure end of runway 27."It also indicated that the pilot was not approved to pilot the plane he was attempting to fly. Morales falsely obtained his Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) license by showing hundreds of hours never flown, and he may also have falsified how many hours he had flown in order to get a job with his employer, Blackhawk International Airways.Additionally, an autopsy performed on Morales revealed traces of cocaine and alcohol in his system...NTSB Identification: MIA01RA225
Nonscheduled 14 CFR
Accident occurred Saturday, August 25, 2001 in Marsh Harbour, Bahamas
Aircraft: Cessna 402B, registration: N8097W
Injuries: 9 Fatal.
On August 25, 2001, about 1845 eastern daylight time, a Cessna 402B, N8097W, registered to Skystream Inc. and operated by Blackhawk International Airways Inc, as a 14 CFR Part 135 air taxi flight, crashed shortly after takeoff from runway 27 at Marsh Harbour Airport, Bahamas. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time. A VFR flight plan was filed, but not activated. The airplane was destroyed, the commercial-rated pilot and eight passengers were fatally injured. The flight was originated at the time of the accident and was destined to Opa-Locka, Florida.
by MinM » Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:14 pm
@nytimes
Aaliyah, a prodigy and pioneer, died on this day 15 years ago. She was just 22. http://nyti.ms/2bKAD1Q
MinM » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:08 pm wrote:Opa-locka field was once the site of secret CIA base
BY ALFONSO CHARDY el Nuevo Herald
An Opa-lock building served as the CIA base for an operation that overthrew a leftist Guatemalan president in the 1950s.
All that remains of the secret CIA base is a grassy field on the northeastern corner of Opa-locka Airport.
But 60 years ago on that very spot was Building 67, a two-story barracks, that in 1953 and 1954 served as CIA field headquarters for the covert operation that overthrew leftist Guatemalan President Jacobo Arbenz.
It was there that several senior CIA officers labored for months organizing the intricate logistical details of PBSUCCESS, the code name for the anti-Arbenz operation. Among the officers who worked at Building 67 was E. Howard Hunt, who later went on to help engineer the 1972 Watergate burglary as one of the White House plumbers.
What happened at Building 67 was known at the time only to a very small circle of people, but the impact of the 1953-54 operation dramatically altered the history of South Florida and the United States.
The Guatemala operation set in motion a series of events whose reverberations continue to be felt to this day.
Arbenz’s overthrow emboldened the CIA’s clandestine service to try a similar operation, though on a larger scale, at Cuba’s Bay of Pigs.
But the 1961 exile invasion, which ended in defeat, caused Fidel Castro a year later to accept Soviet nuclear missiles as a deterrent against future U.S.-backed invasions. Castro’s subsequent consolidation of power led to a stream of refugees that continues to this day.
Among early Cuban refugees were people like José Abreu, who gave a photographer and a reporter from El Nuevo Herald a tour of Opa-locka Airport on March 28, the day before he retired from his post as Miami-Dade aviation director.
The tour included a briefing by Antolin Garcia Carbonell, a former aviation department official, who is also a Cuban refugee and has done extensive research into the history of Building 67 and Opa-locka.
“It was one of a group of buildings that were built in 1943, in the middle of World War II, as barracks for the U.S. Navy,” Carbonell said. “This was a naval air station.”
By the time the CIA took it over, Building 67 was part of a Marine barracks complex. Hunt, in his 1974 autobiography, Undercover, described the structure.
“Our field headquarters occupied a two-story barracks on the partly closed-down Marine air base at Opa-locka, Florida,” Hunt wrote. “We slept and worked in the same building and ate at the base mess hall not far away. Several project officers with military reserve status wore uniforms in order to lessen interest in our building.”
While it has been known that the CIA’s Guatemala operation headquarters was at Opa-locka, Carbonell has discovered details during his years-long investigation that were not known before.
For example, Carbonell was the first to identify the precise building the CIA occupied. He believes the agency picked the building because it had a day-care center and used that as a cover to divert attention from secret activities.
While U.S. concern about Arbenz began in Washington as early as 1951, planning for his overthrow did not begin in earnest until after the Guatemalan government in February 1953 seized 234,000 acres owned by the U.S. banana importer United Fruit under a land reform decree Arbenz had signed the year before.
After the White House authorized the Arbenz overthrow, the CIA began looking for a place to base its Guatemala “war room.”
It opened in Building 67 on Dec. 23, 1953, under the code name LINCOLN.
A telegram that day to station chiefs in Central America from then CIA Director Allen Dulles made it official.
The telegram also provided the name of the first LINCOLN chief, but it was only a pseudonym for the person whose real name was known only to the CIA’s Western Hemisphere Division (WHD).
“Effective this date all addressee stations will constitute component elements of PBSUCCESS regional command with project headquarters at LINCOLN under Jerome C. Dunbar, special deputy, WHD for this project,” wrote Dulles in the telegram, which has since been declassified.
Dunbar was actually Albert Haney, a former U.S. Army colonel who was CIA station chief in Korea at the time Washington decided to open LINCOLN at Building 67 in Opa-locka.
Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA.
One of Dunbar’s first cables to Central American station chiefs dealt with an early crisis in the PBSUCCESS operation.
A person who had access to the CIA’s project leaked coup plans to the Guatemalan government and in early 1954 the Arbenz government publicized the details.
The leak rocked the U.S. government, because it drew worldwide media attention, but Haney/Dunbar saw a silver lining in the episode.
“Desire to assure all concerned that recent exposé of alleged activities pertaining PBSUCCESS although unfortunate some respects fortunate in others,” wrote Dunbar from Opa-locka to the Central America CIA officers on Feb. 2, 1954. “Further this incident has not affected PBSUCCESS objective any way.”
PBSUCCESS, in some ways, served as the template for the 1961 Bay of Pigs operation.
Like Bay of Pigs, PBSUCCESS consisted of an exile force and aircraft assigned to attack Guatemalan targets during the invasion.
Though PBSUCCESS failed to spark a military uprising against Arbenz, he nonetheless resigned on June 27, 1954, when it became clear that top officers no longer backed him. Exile invaders, led by former Guatemalan military officer Carlos Castillo Armas, took over the country.
It has been widely reported that after Arbenz resigned, he obtained refuge at the Mexican Embassy, from where he safely made his way to Mexico.
But in his autobiography, Hunt says Arbenz and Ernesto “Che” Guevara, who was in Guatemala at the time, were actually captured by the triumphant invaders and would have been executed had it not been for last-minute CIA intervention.
“Marching overland, the troops of Castillo Armas seized control of the capital and captured Arbenz and all his followers — including an asthmatic Argentine medical student and Communist camp follower named Ernesto “Che” Guevara,” Hunt wrote.
Arbenz and Guevara were spared only because a “CIA man on the spot” dissuaded Castillo Armas from having them shot, he added.
There is no independent verification of Hunt’s claim.
All available accounts indicate that Guevara took shelter at the Argentine consulate after Arbenz resigned and then made his way to Mexico, where he joined Fidel Castro to launch his revolution in Cuba. Guevera was summarily executed in Bolivia in 1967 after his capture there.
Arbenz died in Mexico in 1971.
Hunt died in Miami in 2007.
As for the abandoned CIA base at Opa-locka, it served other significant purposes, including as one of the facilities used for Operation Pedro Pan, the airlift that brought unaccompanied Cuban children to the United States after the 1959 triumph of the revolution that Castro and Guevara launched from Mexico.
Carnonell said that after the Pedro Pan program moved out in 1966, the Catholic church occasionally rented one of the barracks for spiritual retreats. In 1968, the church used Building 67 as a retreat house for the Cursillos de Cristiandad religious movement.
In 1980, during the Mariel boatlift, Building 67 was used to shelter some unaccompanied refugee children, Carbonell said.
Later in the 1980s, Building 67 — by then infested with termites — came to an ignominious end. Firefighters burned it down as part of a training drill.
The empty grassy field where the barracks once stood eventually may be used to build hangars, aircraft repair sites or other aviation-related businesses, Abreu said.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/04/20/3 ... -site.html
Elsewhwere...@MaxBlumenthal: Netanyahu called 9/11 "very good" for Israel. Now his top advisor says the same about #Boston bombings: http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali ... -netanyahu … #ultimateally
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cptmarginal » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:11 am wrote:Thanks for that last post in this thread nashvillebrook, I missed that...
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Official snared in bribery case dies in suspicious crash - 24 May 2016OPA-LOCKA, Fla. (AP) — A Florida city official died in a suspicious single-vehicle crash a day before he was scheduled to surrender in a criminal corruption case involving thousands of dollars in bribes, authorities said Tuesday.
Opa-locka city commissioner Terence Pinder, 43, died Tuesday after the city-owned vehicle he was driving crashed into a large banyan tree, officials said. The tree is located in an undeveloped part of Miami-Opa-locka Executive Airport, far from any major road and surrounded mostly by grass.
Police say they are investigating whether the crash was deliberate and how fast Pinder was driving. He was the Chevrolet Tahoe's lone occupant, said Miami-Dade police spokeswoman Jennifer Capote. She said the crash was discovered about 8 a.m. by a woman walking her dog.
A tow truck leaves with City of Opa-locka Commissioner Terence Pinder's SUV after it crashed into a tree, Tuesday, May 24, 2016, at Miami-Opa Locka Executive Airport. Pinder was killed in a suspicious single-vehicle crash a day before he was scheduled to surrender in a criminal corruption case. Police said they are investigating whether the crash was deliberate. (AP Photo/Curt Anderson)
"It does appear he was driving inside the grassy area at the airport," Capote said.
Pinder had planned to surrender Wednesday to face bribery and unlawful compensation charges, said Miami-Dade State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle. An arrest warrant says Pinder accepted more than $7,000 in bribes to help a businessman establish a recycling transfer station.
It turned out the businessman was working undercover with police, according to an affidavit. Pinder was accused of taking actions at commission meetings to ensure the businessman received preferential treatment.
In one recorded call last December, the businessman wanted to know if he needed to make another payment to Pinder and offered to stop by the commissioner's house.
"If you want to come see me, that's fine. It's almost Christmas. Where the hell's Santa?" Pinder was recorded as saying.
His death is another blow for Opa-locka, an impoverished city northwest of Miami that is under a broader FBI corruption investigation and struggling with its finances. An emergency city commission meeting on the dire financial situation was scheduled for later Tuesday amid talk that the state may have to take over its operations.
"This is a tragedy for Terence Pinder's family and friends, a tragedy for the City Of Opa-locka and a tragedy for the people of Opa-locka that circumstances surrounding the city's operation have gone this far," Rundle said in a statement.
The FBI had previously confirmed a wide-ranging public corruption investigation involving other city officials and lobbyists, although Pinder's case was separate from that probe. Pinder had previously been charged with several felonies in an earlier bribery investigation that ended in 2014 when he pleaded no contest to reduced violations of city ordinances and was placed on probation. Pinder was first elected in 2004.
(paging Daniel Hopsicker)
See also:
Depleted Uranium Found at Opa-Locka Airport
Opa-locka field was once the site of secret CIA base
by seemslikeadream » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:07 pm
by cptmarginal » Tue Sep 06, 2016 10:21 pm
MinM wrote:"On August 25, 2001, at 6:45 pm (EST), Aaliyah and various members of her record company boarded a twin engine Cessna 402B (N8097W) at Marsh Harbour, Abaco Islands, The Bahamas, to travel to an airport in Opa-locka, Florida, after they completed filming the music video for "Rock the Boat".The crew had a flight scheduled the following day, but Aaliyah and her entourage were eager to return to the United States due to the filming finishing early, so they demanded that their heavy equipment be loaded on the plane rather than left behind. It resulted in the aircraft being well beyond the standard weight and balance tolerance provided by Cessna.
The plane crashed shortly after takeoff, about 200 feet (60 m) from the runway.Aaliyah, pilot Luis Morales III, hair stylist Eric Forman, Anthony Dodd, security guard Scott Gallin, video producer Douglas Kratz, stylist Christopher Maldonado, and Blackground Records employees Keith Wallace and Gina Smith were killed.According to findings from an inquest conducted by the coroner's office in The Bahamas, Aaliyah suffered from "severe burns and a blow to the head", in addition to severe shock. The coroner theorized that, even if Aaliyah had survived the crash, her recovery would have been virtually impossible given the severity of her injuries.The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) report stated that "the airplane was seen lifting off the runway, and then nose down, impacting in a marsh on the south side of the departure end of runway 27."It also indicated that the pilot was not approved to pilot the plane he was attempting to fly. Morales falsely obtained his Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) license by showing hundreds of hours never flown, and he may also have falsified how many hours he had flown in order to get a job with his employer, Blackhawk International Airways.Additionally, an autopsy performed on Morales revealed traces of cocaine and alcohol in his system...
NTSB Identification: MIA01RA225
Nonscheduled 14 CFR
Accident occurred Saturday, August 25, 2001 in Marsh Harbour, Bahamas
Aircraft: Cessna 402B, registration: N8097W
Injuries: 9 Fatal.
On August 25, 2001, about 1845 eastern daylight time, a Cessna 402B, N8097W, registered to Skystream Inc. and operated by Blackhawk International Airways Inc, as a 14 CFR Part 135 air taxi flight, crashed shortly after takeoff from runway 27 at Marsh Harbour Airport, Bahamas. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed at the time. A VFR flight plan was filed, but not activated. The airplane was destroyed, the commercial-rated pilot and eight passengers were fatally injured. The flight was originated at the time of the accident and was destined to Opa-Locka, Florida.
The cause of Aaliyah’s crash was an overloaded airplane, the same cause ruled responsible for the Teterboro crash. And, like in the Teterboro crash, investigators found numerous flagrant violations of U.S. law that directly led to the deaths of nine people…
In that crash, the plane lifted off from Marsh Harbour Airport in the Bahamas, rose little more than 40 feet, banked left—then nose-dived into a marsh and burst into flame.
"Bodies were all about," says Marsh Harbour mortician Ernest Scott, who wrapped the deceased in fire blankets, then placed them in canvas body bags. "I've been on some gruesome ones, but this one was bad."
When emergency teams arrived at the muddy scene minutes later, they found Aaliyah some 20 feet from the fuselage, curled on her left side. She and five others had died instantly; Aaliyah's bodyguard Scott Gallin, 41, was barely alive in one of the fuselage remnants. "
"Man, I need something to drink," Gallin told mortician Ernest Scott. He did not survive the night.
FAA inspector who cleared doomed pilot, commits "suicide"
Moulis represented the shady Palm Beach Florida charter operator responsible for the flight.
Gilbert Chacon, the owner of Blackhawk International Airways, wasn’t someone anyone would describe as being above reproach. Chacon had a significant criminal record. He pled guilty in 1993 to bankruptcy fraud involving another charter service, in a $400 million insurance fraud run by a British scam artist from a safe haven in the Caribbean.
Sound familiar?
Investigation revealed that the pilot of the doomed plane had been busted for possession of crack cocaine, trafficking stolen airplane parts, theft and driving with a suspended license.
Three weeks after the Aaliyah crash, the FAA inspector in Fort Lauderdale who signed the crack-head pilot off as ready to fly committed suicide. The New York Post broke the story, but oddly neglected to identify the "suicided" FAA inspector.
September 26, 2001, Wednesday
NEW AALIYAH MYSTERY - FED WHO OK'D PILOT KILLS SELF
BYLINE: MALCOLM BALFOUR Post Correspondent
SECTION: All Editions; Pg. 034
LANTANA, Fla. - The FAA inspector who gave Aaliyah's pilot what turned out to be his final checkout flight killed himself last week, officials told The Post.
And in another bizarre development, the owner of the charter plane that crashed Aug. 25 in the Bahamas - killing the superstar singer and seven members of her entourage - claims pilot Luis Morales lied about his flying experience to get the job.
The lawyer for the family of the pilot, who also died in the crash, denied the allegation.
Gilbert Chacon, owner of Blackhawk International Airways, has filed a complaint about the pilot with the Federal Aviation Administration.
Chacon's lawyer, Mike Moulis, told the FAA, "Morales inappropriately logged hundreds of hours as 'pilot in command,' when it was questionable whether he was even a pilot on the flights [he logged]."
The lawyer told the Sun Sentinel newspaper that Morales' logbook went from 580 hours of flying time on one page to 1,580 hours on the next page.
But Gabriel Penagaricano, representing the Morales family, said, "These wild allegations are only trying to deflect the blame, which falls squarely on the shoulders of the aircraft owner. Mr. Morales is not here to defend himself."
Penagaricano said that, under the charter license, only Chacon was permitted to fly the plane.
Pilots who worked with Morales told The Post they doubted he had the experience to fly the 10-seat Cessna 402-B that went down on takeoff from Abaco island.
He was checked out by the FAA in early August in a much smaller and easier-to-fly Piper Seneca, permitting him to handle charters in that model aircraft.
The inspector who checked out Morales committed suicide last week, officials said. The FAA has refused to release his name or any information about why he took his own life.
Witnesses earlier said that Morales had objected to the amount of equipment the group brought aboard, but was browbeaten into making the flight.
People at the airport also said the plane was unbalanced, with two of Aaliyah's heavyweight bodyguards sitting in the rear. The combination of being overweight and tail-heavy is a recipe for disaster, aviation experts say.
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